Re: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference?
Besides the fact that 5 is hopelessly out of date? I'd use Google to enumerate the differences. The big one is MX is a Java based application and runs on common app servers (e.g. WebSphere, Tomcat, etc.) -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dissent is the purest form of patriotism. --Thomas Jefferson On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:27 PM, E.E. wrote: Hi, I’m a newbie to this list. So please be gentle with me. :0) I have a question. Does anyone have a link or know off top of their head, the differences between these two Cold Fusion technologies. CFML 5.0 and CFML MX (6.1) ? (I'm sure I can Google it but I prefer you guys :-) Thanks! -Eric - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference?
Eric, welcome to the list. There's actually quite a few differences because CF made the jump to Java back in version 6. Are you migrating a site from CF5 or something? Feel free to provide some more information so we can help. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.E. Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:28 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Hi, I'm a newbie to this list. So please be gentle with me. :0) I have a question. Does anyone have a link or know off top of their head, the differences between these two Cold Fusion technologies. CFML 5.0 and CFML MX (6.1) ? (I'm sure I can Google it but I prefer you guys :-) Thanks! -Eric - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference?
I have a CF application using MS SQL and CF 5.0. I'm trying to convert the program to be compatible with MX. (The client host is running MX 6.1). I wasn't sure if the coding method completely changed or just the platform (Java) it was on. Any idea, what conversion problems I may run into? (The program is a shopping cart using a couple of arrays and a login cookie system). Thanks in advance, _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Eric, welcome to the list. There's actually quite a few differences because CF made the jump to Java back in version 6. Are you migrating a site from CF5 or something? Feel free to provide some more information so we can help. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.E. Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:28 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Hi, I'm a newbie to this list. So please be gentle with me. :0) I have a question. Does anyone have a link or know off top of their head, the differences between these two Cold Fusion technologies. CFML 5.0 and CFML MX (6.1) ? (I'm sure I can Google it but I prefer you guys :-) Thanks! -Eric - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference?
Here's an article on updating a CF5 app by Ray Camden http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/updating_legacy.html Ecommerce will carry with it further implications here. If you take,transmit or store credit card info with this ecommerce cart then you'll need to make certain the system is PCI compliant. Here's the link on this.. https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/ Part of this requires using the latest software updates/patches, hence you probably need to upgrade to CF8. The other issue is that the app can't be on a shared hosting environment (PCI doesn't directly state this but you really can't comply any other way). Sounds like the app was built before PCI (Dec 2004), so I doubt the coding is within compliance either (look at section 6.5). If it's not, you may need to either rebuild or find a cart system that is. Bare in mind, PCI is required by the major credit card companies. Part of the merchant account agreement will contractual require the merchant to follow the standard. Noncompliance can cost your client in fines, law suits or removal of their merchant account, so it's serious business here. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.E. Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:17 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? I have a CF application using MS SQL and CF 5.0. I'm trying to convert the program to be compatible with MX. (The client host is running MX 6.1). I wasn't sure if the coding method completely changed or just the platform (Java) it was on. Any idea, what conversion problems I may run into? (The program is a shopping cart using a couple of arrays and a login cookie system). Thanks in advance, _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Eric, welcome to the list. There's actually quite a few differences because CF made the jump to Java back in version 6. Are you migrating a site from CF5 or something? Feel free to provide some more information so we can help. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.E. Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:28 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Hi, I'm a newbie to this list. So please be gentle with me. :0) I have a question. Does anyone have a link or know off top of their head, the differences between these two Cold Fusion technologies. CFML 5.0 and CFML MX (6.1) ? (I'm sure I can Google it but I prefer you guys :-) Thanks! -Eric - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference?
Wow, cool info on the PCI compliance, John. Thanks. Back to Eric's question, besides articles like Ray's, I'll also point out that Adobe themselves (well, it was Macromedia back then) created a guide to updating between the releases: ColdFusion MX Migration Overview http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/migration_overview/cfmx_migr ation_guide_rs_update.pdf Migrating Your Application to ColdFusion MX http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/migrating.html Migrating ColdFusion 5 Applications http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/6/Migrating_ColdFusion_5_Applications/c f_migration_guide.htm Indeed, the whole of the CF6 docs are online still at: http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/6/ There were still a few other pages/documents previously available in the 6 timeframe which now get a page at Adobe saying that 6.1 is no longer supported. Fair enough, but for those who want the documents, you can find them via the wonders of the internet wayback machine' at archive.org (which often holds old versions of pages no longer available online). Some of the old ones available there are: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/whitepapers/pdf/6_1/cfmx61_feat ure_comparison_matrix.pdf http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/features/ http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/upgrade/ and even a breeze movie at: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusionmx61/productinfo/features/whats_new/ (Again, you must view these via the archive.org site, not by directly visiting the URLs offered above.) Now, some may wonder: how the heck do I have all that info? Well, I'll also say, for Eric and anyone else making the move from 5 (or earlier) to 6, 7, or 8 that I have a daylong class on New in CFMX 6, 7 - What did you miss? I have gathered this info over the past several years and its part of what I offer in the class (resources) in addition to walking folks through the hundreds of changes in 6, 6.1, 7, 7.01, and 7.02. I currently offer a preview of the class (both a PDF and a recording) at: http://carehart.org/presentations/#newin67 A lot of shops who did move to 6 or 7 often just parked their code and never took advantage of what was new. This course will help you realize the hundreds (yes, hundreds) of things you may have missed. I'm planning to offer that as an online (or on-site) course in the near future. If anyone's interested, drop me a line ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). /charlie _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:10 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] 5.0 vs MX: Difference? Here's an article on updating a CF5 app by Ray Camden http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/updating_legacy.html Ecommerce will carry with it further implications here. If you take,transmit or store credit card info with this ecommerce cart then you'll need to make certain the system is PCI compliant. Here's the link on this.. https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/ Part of this requires using the latest software updates/patches, hence you probably need to upgrade to CF8. The other issue is that the app can't be on a shared hosting environment (PCI doesn't directly state this but you really can't comply any other way). Sounds like the app was built before PCI (Dec 2004), so I doubt the coding is within compliance either (look at section 6.5). If it's not, you may need to either rebuild or find a cart system that is. Bare in mind, PCI is required by the major credit card companies. Part of the merchant account agreement will contractual require the merchant to follow the standard. Noncompliance can cost your client in fines, law suits or removal of their merchant account, so it's serious business here. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
