Re: no fixtures found error

[kenneth gonsalves]

apologies for this post - I did not notice it was on the dev list.

On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 11:58 +0530, kenneth gonsalves wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 17:47 -0800, froto wrote:
> > I am using statement:python manage.py syncbd,but there is a error
> > report:no fixtures found.What's wrong with it? 
> 
> that is not an error message - it is just a statement of fact. Either
> you have no fixtures, or your fixtures are in the wrong place.
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Re: no fixtures found error

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On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 17:47 -0800, froto wrote:
> I am using statement:python manage.py syncbd,but there is a error
> report:no fixtures found.What's wrong with it? 

that is not an error message - it is just a statement of fact. Either
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Re: PHP-inspired user-friendly in-browser DJango install

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On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:08 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
wrote:
> Uh.. what? Django != Drupal. 
> 
> Can you please explain a bit more about what you want the end result
> to be. 

I do not think you have fully read the post - he wants users to be able
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Re: What is Django?

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On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:51 -0400, Justin Holmes wrote:
> Sorry, here's the appropriate link:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=15iJXXKs989cIIvhToa7ttYgToPSyzJN9KL9CCkxka1o
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> 

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Re: Django Design Czar

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On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 00:10 -0700, Victor Hooi wrote:
> Was somebody made the Django design czar? 

yes - Idan Gazit
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Re: How to install Django in Windows XP(SP2)

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On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 04:14 -0800, Subhabrata wrote:
> I would surely do that. But I was redirected to this list from Django
> site saying if I have any installation problem. 

go to django-users
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#14608: Adding a INPhoneNumberField to indian localflavor

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

hi,

I have put up a ticket on the above with some code and tests. Could
someone take a look at it and point out what more needs to be done
please? My first attempt at contributing to django, so it is probably a
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Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 11:37:06 am Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson  wrote:
> > I, too, like the idea of a conference site.  It fills a void and
> > sounds useful for upcoming conferences.  I wasn't too crazy about the
> > blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea.  So shall we
> > call it a conference site and move on?  :)
>
> A conference site it is then.

cool (I just lurk here) but we have a conference site at in.pycon.org/2009/ - 
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Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

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On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:26:21 am ihomest...@gmail.com wrote:
> Since many have mentioned that django is not an asynchronous
> framework,

you still have not understood. django is a framework. It is not a webserver, 
or any kind of server. (oops, just noticed that this discussion is on the 
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Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

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On Tuesday 06 Oct 2009 1:53:44 pm TheMaTrIx wrote:
> I have a nack for optimizing PHP Webservers

what is a PHP webserver?
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Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

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On Tuesday 06 Oct 2009 10:46:44 am ihomest...@gmail.com wrote:
> I read this doc about the performance comparison between Tornado and
> Django: http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation

comparison between django and tornado? django is a web framework. Tornado 
is a web server. Whats to compare? one compares platforms for running django. 
like:
apache + mod_python - sucks
apache + mod_wsgi - rocks
nginx + tornado - rocks big time with nginx handling the media and tornado 
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[ANN] First Indian Python conference

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Hi,

We would love to have droves of django developers and users with us:

http://in.pycon.org/2009/
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Re: Model-validation: call for discussions

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On Monday 19 Jan 2009 6:52:15 pm Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:17 PM, mrts  wrote:
> > And now something completely different
> > ==
> >
> > "Every problem in computer science can be solved by
> > another level of indirection."
>
>  - David Wheeler
>
> " ... except the problem of too many levels of indirection"
>  - Kevlin Henney
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_layer
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Lampson

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Re: Community representation, or, #django user "Magus-" needs to go far away

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On 01-Jul-08, at 10:04 PM, Tom Tobin wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> why should he be more polite? He follows the policy of 'teaching to
>> fish' rather than spoonfeeding. I have several times got flamed by
>> him for getting impatient and giving the answer. I would say that he
>> is the single most important person in the channel. He has even taken
>> the trouble of writing a script whereby he can generate almost
>> instantaneous references to the *relevant* docs. It is easy to give
>> direct answers - difficult, irritating and time consuming to 'teach
>> to fish'. Let him be as rude as he wants, as long as he is there.
>
> Stepping back for a moment from the way I approached this issue —
> which I readily admit was the wrong way to do it, and which I
> apologize to the community for — and the parties in question, I'm
> concerned with the general sentiment expressed in this thread.  It is
> quite understandable to be grateful to someone for performing a
> difficult task; it's another thing to allow that gratitude to mute
> necessary criticism.  I think there's room in our community for both
> charity *and* civility; if we can improve, we *should* improve.

actually this debate belongs on django-users (which is why I put in  
my 2 paise) - I think if taken there we can get a real measure of the  
pros of his help against the cons of his curtness at times (I  
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Re: Community representation, or, #django user "Magus-" needs to go far away

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On 26-Jun-08, at 7:51 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote:

>> Then, I tried helping people the way he does for a mere fraction of
>> the time he does. Answering the same 5 questions 20 times a day  
>> (ok, I
>> did it maybe twice) would drive anyone insane.
>
> +1

+1
>
> Yes, it'd be nice if Magus were a bit more polite, but I'd say his
> patience and dedication are legend.

why should he be more polite? He follows the policy of 'teaching to  
fish' rather than spoonfeeding. I have several times got flamed by  
him for getting impatient and giving the answer. I would say that he  
is the single most important person in the channel. He has even taken  
the trouble of writing a script whereby he can generate almost  
instantaneous references to the *relevant* docs. It is easy to give  
direct answers - difficult, irritating and time consuming to 'teach  
to fish'. Let him be as rude as he wants, as long as he is there.
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Re: Newish developer contributing to project?

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On 14-Jun-08, at 8:11 PM, Jonathan Lukens wrote:

> I will follow your suggestions and hopefully somethign positive will
> come of it.

right now on IRC all the big guns are missing and a lot of newbies  
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Re: Good IDE setup to use for large Django projects suggestions

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On 03-Jun-08, at 9:32 PM, The Code Janitor wrote:

> (debugging isn't great, I can't figure out how to do dynamic debugging
> on Django operations, and code development features such as dynamic
> lookups, refactoring and unit testing are painful at best).

the whole idea of shifting to python from java is that one is much  
less dependent on tools like this - many people use minimal IDE's or  
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Re: QSRF Related

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On 29-Apr-08, at 11:25 PM, David Cramer wrote:

> WILL BREAK" (I didn't even know QSRF was released until someone
> pointed it out to me)

must have been about a million messages congratulating malcolm on the  
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Re: Queryset-refactor branch has been merged into trunk

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On 27-Apr-08, at 8:34 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

> I merged queryset-refactor into trunk just now. This was changeset
> r7477.

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Re: SVN Milestones

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this is third time this post has come - is it me or something else?

On 23-Apr-08, at 4:28 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 03:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 7:56 pm, "Justin Lilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> We have one. Its called 1.0 and the more you contribute, the  
>>> closer you get
>>> ;)
>>
>> No offense, but where is that milestone documented?  Adrian chimed in
>> with what he thinks is left for a 1.0 beta, but I can't find anything
>> on the site stating that.
>
> Most of the discussion and conclusions are done on this mailing list.
> However http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/VersionOneFeatures is a
> reasonable list. However, it has grown a bit into a wishlist, rather
> than a feature set, so we might have to reign things in a bit there to
> make it clear what are the real pre-1.0 blockers.
>
> Roughly, newforms-admin, queryset-refactor, model-aware validation,
> comments replacement (although that's a little up in the air now that
> it's been accepted as a SoC project, since 1.0 would hopefully be out
> long before SoC is done), docs refactoring and INSTALLED_APPLICATIONS
> refactoring were the main features for 1.0.
>
> Of those, queryset-refactor, model-aware validation and docs refactor
> are "mostly done". So it's getting close.
>
> Add in fixing as many other bugs as possible and a few of other  
> general
> areas, but they're "nice to have", rather than being a showstopper.
>
>>  Django isn't using the roadmap feature of
>> Trac to organize the milestones, which is a great mechanism to
>> indicate what needs to get done for a particular release.
>
> Sometimes. However, we're only getting to the point now where it would
> really be practical to assign a 1.0 milestone (really 1.0-blocker
> status) to anything.
>
>>   Are you
>> using the version field for that?
>
> No, the version field is the version against which the problem is
> reported.
>
>>   As far as I can see, here's the
>> breakdown:
>>   SVN - 781 tickets
>>   newforms-admin - 93 tickets
>>   queryset-refactor - 5 tickets
>>
>> Does *all* of that need to get done for 1.0?
>
> Of course not. Not every ticket represents a bug, for a start, and  
> it's
> not only bugs that are blockers.
>
>> I don't have a lot of time to
>> spend (and I'm sure that's true of many folks working on Django), but
>> when I do spend it, I want to make sure it's getting a project closer
>> to release.  And in this particular case, I want to help Django  
>> get to
>> 1.0.
>
> That's a fair enough comment.
>
> I'll make some time to do a pass through the VersionOneFeatures  
> list and
> rationalise things a bit. We can start pulling together a list of
> tickets that are absolute blockers, too (I gather James already had  
> some
> of that stuff written down somewhere). The trick there is keeping the
> list somewhat managed and not suffering form everybody adding pet
> features. It's something the release manager should probably own.
>
> To a large extent, though, a lot of the blockers are the big features
> mentioned above. Newforms-admin would be one are to devote testing,  
> bug
> triaging and patch writing. INSTALLED_APPS is Adrian's baby and I  
> don't
> know what his current thinking is there; maybe he can offer some
> guidance about whether help is needed.
>
> Regards,Malcolm
>
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Re: SVN Milestones

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On 20-Apr-08, at 12:47 AM, Steve Holden wrote:

>> I wouldn't even call the current svn head a beta-quality product
>>
>>
> Which is probably why it isn't yet a beta release?

what I meant is that it is stable and production ready and that it is  
time people stopped evaluating products by looking at the version  
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Re: SVN Milestones

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On 19-Apr-08, at 8:52 PM, James Bennett wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:17 AM, ydjango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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>>  Is there a reason you cannot call it just 1.0
>
> So would you prefer to have a beta-quality product whose developers
> lie and call it 1.0?

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Re: I broke Trac :/

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On 25-Feb-08, at 11:45 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:

>>  I'll have it fixed as soon as I can figure out what the hell's  
>> going on.
>
> OK, fixed.

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Re: How to stop spam on our groups

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On 12-Jan-08, at 6:27 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:

> The moderation could be done by member(s) whose time wouldn't be spent
> enhancing django.  I used to volunteer on python.org to maintain the
> Python Jobs Board, because I wanted to help out, but I wasn't able to
> contribute in ways that other people already were (sysadmin stuff).
> Perhaps if there were two or three people who cared about Django but
> were not otherwise engaged in the improvement of Django, they could  
> help
> by taking the moderation and/or cleanup task off the shoulders of the
> maintainers.

i have the time to do the first post moderation if required, but that  
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Re: ticket open fails

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On 23-Dec-07, at 11:43 AM, Jeff Anderson wrote:

> Yes, I agree.

there is a shortcut - enter your info in Preferences, and akismet  
will let you in. I have never registered, but my details in  
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Re: ticket open fails

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On 23-Dec-07, at 11:21 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote:

> http://www.djangoproject.com/accounts/register/

if this link could be made more visible, it would help - I have  
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Re: newforms-admin and translated data

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On 22-Dec-07, at 9:39 PM, Marc Garcia wrote:

> If somebody could confirm that it's a bug I'll open the ticket, and
> I'll research more.

check whether they are marked as 'fuzzy' in .po file

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Re: Wrong length of database columns 'name', 'codename' for 'auth_permission' table.

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On 03-Dec-07, at 10:17 AM, Ivan Markeyev wrote:

> Have no idea, how to post ticket on djangoproject.com. Server return
> to me "500 Internal Server Error (Submission rejected as potential
> spam)".

add your name and email address in the 'preferences' page of the  
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Re: Django 1.0 features -- the definitive list

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On 30-Nov-07, at 6:14 PM, Deryck Hodge wrote:

> +1
>
> It's not an unprecedented idea across OSS projects.   We jumped from
> samba 3.0.14 to 3.0.20 when we had a slew of new changes between
> releases.  Granted those are dot releases, but the idea is the same.

and postgres jumped from 7.4.x to 8.0

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Re: ANN: Django sprint, December 1st

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On 08-Nov-07, at 6:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

>> Django bells, Django bells,
>> Django all the way;
>> Oh what fun it is to code
>> In a well-designed dynamic language!
>
> In an open source way!

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Re: ANN: Django sprint, December 1st

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On 08-Nov-07, at 2:36 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:

> Django bells, Django bells,
> Django all the way;
> Oh what fun it is to code
> In a well-designed dynamic language!

In an open source way!

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Re: Cleaning up memcached connections

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 30-Oct-07, at 10:55 PM, webjunkie wrote:

>> Err, what was the old version, and what's the new version?
>>
>> "Upgrade" is kind of vague.  :-/
>
> Upgraded from 3.2.10 to 3.3.1 ;)

which is 8 months old ;-)

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Re: Reverse Engineer + Database + Models

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On 30-Oct-07, at 12:07 PM, aruns wrote:

> I am a new to Django..

dont crosspost to both users and developers - stick to users unless  
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Re: Documentation restructuring

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On 20-Oct-07, at 7:25 AM, James Bennett wrote:

> As someone who uses Django's documentation on a daily basis, here's
> what I'd like to see:

one thing I would like to see is: table of contents available on all  
pages. Now I have to go to 'documentation' and click on dbiapi. Then,  
if I want to go to 'creating models' I go back to 'documentation' and  
then to creating models. I bookmark these, but am very often away  
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Re: ./manage.py sqlreset --apply

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On 18-Oct-07, at 11:28 AM, Derek Anderson wrote:

> what are thoughts on a new option to sqlreset (and others, as
> appropriate) to apply the change to the db?  something like this:
>
>   ./manage.py sqlreset --apply

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Re: Why not a django svn+trac for all django aplications

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On 12-Oct-07, at 7:44 PM, msaelices wrote:

> I think Django could create an unique SVN+trac for all django
> aplication developed.

there are several discussions of this in the users list and many  
attempts are there to do this - please check the archives of this  
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Re: Changes to request_response have broken django-rest-interface

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On 05-Oct-07, at 1:23 PM, Peter Nixon wrote:

>> On 10/4/07, Peter Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I tried to open the following ticket but it thinks my IP is a  
>>> spammer,
>>> so I am sending to the list:
>>
>> If you create an account in Trac, it won't apply spam filtering to  
>> you.
>
> And how does one go about doing that? I don't see a signup link  
> anywhere...

did you enter your name and email id in settings?

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Re: schema evolution [testers wanted]

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 09-Aug-07, at 1:56 AM, Brantley Harris wrote:

> "hint" seems like the wrong word.  "suggest", "guide", "auto",
> "build"?

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Re: GSoC Update: [Check Constraints] New features and using it with Newforms.

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On 26-Jul-07, at 9:42 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:

>> could you post this to the users list also - you may get a lot of
>> feedback from the user's point of view
>
> Actually, I've deliberately asked the SoC students to post updates
> here instead of django-users. I know all the core devs read both
> groups, but we skim -users most more lightly than -dev, and these
> updates need to be seen by developers. I'd rather not mix up the
> distinction between -users and -dev.

i agree - these should be in -dev, I just felt that this particular  
post would excite/interest users so asked if he could post it in - 
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Re: Django whizkids wanted.

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 03-Jun-07, at 10:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> This will of course be a paid contract, so if anyone is interested
> please contact me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

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Re: Subversion cliff notes

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 10-May-07, at 2:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Can someone point me to a good site for a quick-guide to subversion?

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Re: Please encourage PsycoPG 2 usage (not 1!)

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 09-Feb-07, at 4:35 PM, Marc Fargas Esteve wrote:

> It is obsole because upstream says so:
> # PsycopgOne -- the original psycopg 1.1.x (now obsoleted by  
> psycopg 2)
> # PsycopgTwo -- psycopg 2.0, the one you shall use
>(from: http://www.initd.org/tracker/psycopg/wiki)
>
> If upstream says something is obsolete you should stop using it ;) On
> the benefits I can think of: "Because it is the current version, hence
> the maintained one" and you should not encourage newbies to use things
> that have been stated as obsolete by it's authors.

i am not trolling here. nor do i want to get into any flame wars.  
But, i feel the authors went on the wrong track in 2 and should have  
stuck to 1. Apart from the authors' opinion, i dont see any other  
compelling reason for the switch.

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Re: Is this group moderated, or is it a bug with google groups?

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 26-Jan-07, at 12:19 PM, medhat wrote:

> So many times I send messages to the group, but my message does not
> appear at all, or it might appear a day or two after I actually send
> it, which of course makes it appear down on the list, and nobody  
> really
> sees it.

not moderated - and no bug in googlegroups either. There must be some  
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Re: Admin app not installed properly

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 23-Jan-07, at 8:02 AM, furby wrote:

> django.contrib.admin is installed in my settings.py, so that's not the
> problem.

it cant find the css - check the document source to see where it is  
looking for the css and make sure that is correct in relation to your  
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Re: Django wiki changes

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 22-Jan-07, at 10:56 PM, Adrian Holovaty wrote:

> clicks "Code" in the navigation, he shouldn't see a messy set of
> links. We should present a clean overview of the "code" aspects of
> Django -- how to get the code, how to contribute and what we're
> currently working on.

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wiki down

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

the wiki is down - in case noone has reported it yet
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Re: login_required decorator and redirect_to

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 22-Dec-06, at 8:26 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:

I did create my own login decorator for this site for my own views  
that

are using it.  But to use my decorator for the password views would
mean duplicating (or copying) all that code.


use user_passes_test - it allows you to specify the url you want.

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Re: Directory of Django Programmers

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 20-Dec-06, at 3:07 PM, Siliconbits wrote:


Anyone knows where I can find this rare species. I've trawled Rent a
Coder and Get a Freelancer without success. If anyone is interested in
freelancing in London, UK with good rates, let me know.


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Fwd: how are you handling i18n and m10l content?

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

I am forwarding this from the django-users list as it will be of  
interest to developers too

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Aidas Bendoraitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 9 November 2006 2:58:03 PM GMT+05:30
> To: django-users@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how are you handling i18n and m10l content?
> Reply-To: django-users@googlegroups.com
>
>
> +1 for this type of solution.
>
> Just there is no need for the intermediate table between the table
> with untranslatable fields and the table with translatable ones,
> because the relationship between these two tables is one to many. So
> the table with translatable fields could just have a FK to the table
> with untranslatable fields. So the solution is more or less the same
> as I proposed some time ago.
>
> Actually this could be integrated into the core.
> When you create a model, you could add translatable=True to fields
> that have to be in the language-specific table.
> When you make selections, you would need to set the language name in
> the following or a similar way:
> MyModel.objects.by_language("EN").all()
> MyModel.objects.by_language("EN").order_by('title')
> which would form queries like:
> SELECT * FROM myapp_mymodel INNER JOIN myapp_mymodel_translatable ON
> myapp_mymodel.id = myapp_mymodel_translatable.id ORDER BY title
>
> Regards,
> Aidas Bendoraitis [aka Archatas]
>
>
>
> On 11/9/06, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08-Nov-06, at 5:22 PM, fdb wrote:
>>
>>> Note again that it's perfectly fine to add objects in another  
>>> language
>>> than the default that don't have translations in the default  
>>> language.
>>> One restriction: you cannot translate a page that doesn't have a
>>> default language version.
>>
>> i took a look at this - it seems to imply that there is only one
>> translateable field in the model (I may be wrong). But for me a
>> typical page model would have several Char fields and more than one
>> text field. How does one handle that? I was thinking having
>>
>> 1. languages table - longname and shortname
>> 2. for each table a translate table with fk to languages table and fk
>> to the translated table. This table will contain only translateable
>> fields (char and text). The two fks are unique_together. Whenever the
>> app sees a text or char field, it searches for a translation to  
>> insert.
>> 3. Translation would be page independant and table independant. For
>> any given language, the app searches for all untranslated text and
>> char fields and displays them, one can select to translate.
>> 4. Provision should be made for automatically translating strings,
>> review of this and review of translations themselves.
>>
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>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >

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Re: schema-evolution: status?

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 26-Oct-06, at 12:40 PM, Derek Anderson wrote:

> can someone who knows svn better than i help me out as to how i would
> refresh the branch with the latest from the trunk, and then remerge
> these changes back into it?

in your working copy root do:

svn merge http://code.djangoproject.com/svn/django/trunk

and then, after resolving conflicts do

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[attn -list admin] Re: 5 Yoga ebooks attached in ebook-share section

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 19-Oct-06, at 9:21 PM, P K Kothari wrote:

> P K Kothari

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Re: Functional Benchmark : Django, Rails, CakePHP

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 19-Oct-06, at 7:06 PM, jhernandez wrote:

> Django can run on GNU systems that doesn't use a Linux kernel.

seems like i have hurd this before

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Re: Functional Benchmark : Django, Rails, CakePHP

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On 19-Oct-06, at 7:29 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

> should probably add mailing lists as a line-item there, too, since  
> both
> RoR and Django have extremely high-volume, very helpful mailing lists

and i hope he has mentioned our #django IRC channel - with a  
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Re: Further "little, easy improvements" ?

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On 19-Sep-06, at 12:08 AM, Nick wrote:

> Most, if not all, of the "little, easy improvements" listed on
> www.djangoproject.com have now been made.  I feel the urge on
> contribute once more, so is there anything else little and easy that I
> could do?

for imagefield/filefield in admin, scope to remove the image/file

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Re: Improved Norwegian translation files

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On 22-Aug-06, at 11:46 AM, Lisa wrote:

> Can I email these 4 files to someone and have them incorporated into
> the latest Django release?  If so, please provide me with an e-mail
> address.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: translation of content

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On 13-Aug-06, at 12:51 AM, Ahmad Alhashemi wrote:

> Then, in templates of a certain language site, you would look for
> objects that are related to the current object in the translation
> tables and link to them through their get_absolute_url preceded by
> their site's address.
>
> Of course, as I said, it all depends on what you are trying to  
> achieve.

I have sites that are in english, but need to be translated into the  
22 official indian languages. The interface and django is in the  
process of getting translated using i18n, but content is the  
problem ... so just thinking aloud. I need something very like  
gettext for content, so the translators can have a similar interface  
- or even use kbabel for it, though it wouldnt be short strings, but  
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translation of content

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

hi,
just a few random thoughts on translation of content. At first i was  
leaning towards developing a dependant model for each model which  
would hold translations. One thing i have realised is that of all the  
field types, only three - CharField, TextField and numeric fields  
would need to be translated. So was thinking, why not have a model like:

EnglishString:
fieldtype - this is text/char/number
englishstring - the english string

Translation:
englishstring - foreignkey to EnglishString
language - foreignkey to Languages
translation - actualtranslation

and something to prompt a lookup to see if there is a translated  
string available. But this is going to be slow. An alternative would  
be to eliminate the 'EnglishString' model and have only one model  
like so:

Translation:
origmodel - foreignkey to a the modelname+model_id 
+fieldnameof_stringtobetranslated
language - foreignkey to Languages
translation - actualtranslation

a mechanism should be there to serve these strings to a tranlator for  
translation and saving into the database. translation of numeric data  
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Re: 2401: strings escaping translation

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On 23-Jul-06, at 7:18 AM, Bill de hÓra wrote:

> http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/2401
>
> "strings escaping translation"
>
> The strings that stay in english aren't in the tamil .po file.  I  
> think
> the .po files might be out of sync with the source tree and that
> bin/make-messages.py needs to be rerun over the source. Maybe a job  
> for
> a post-commit hook?

not sure where the tamil guys took the po file from - but since i  
noticed the same thing in german also, i think that the strings in  
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Re: User subclassing

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On 22-Jul-06, at 11:04 PM, Todd O'Bryan wrote:

>>
>> Again, having the solution with OneToOne relation scares newbies away
>> because it's become a kind of common wisdom that OneToOne will be
>> changed very drastically very soon and "all your code would burn".
>
> What is the current wisdom on OneToOne? Will it be finalized soon?  
> Ever?

its going to be chopped

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Re: Django sprint / 0.95 release at OSCON

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On 21-Jul-06, at 8:03 PM, Ivan Sagalaev wrote:

>> Most -- all? -- of the magic-removal stuff has settled down
>
> What about model inheritance? This is one feature that was before  
> MR and
> never recovered after. I remember some people in django-users were
> forced to stay with pre-MR syntax because of it.

comes up 4-5 times a day at least on IRC, most common desire is to  
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Re: #django-devel

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On 19-Jul-06, at 12:33 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:

>
> On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 12:08 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>
>> On 19-Jul-06, at 11:46 AM, Brantley Harris wrote:
>>
>>> You keep #django open too and answer questions in there.  Therefore
>>> they have no reason to enter #django-devel.
>>
>> dream on - you can never escape crazies and retards
>
> Can you two take a step back and think about how bad this thread looks
> to others, please?
>
> It is very hard for an open source project to recover from having a
> reputation of being arrogant or insulting towards their user base.

what i meant is: i have been a member of #django for the past year,  
and am highly satisfied with what goes on there. It is a great  
community, and has a strong tradition of answering newbie questions -  
i was being sarcastic, as i personally have never seen any crazies or  
dumb people there. In fact there are newbie questions that i  
personally have answered 20-30 times and still dont tire of answering  
them. Maybe i should have just flamed the OP in the first place  
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Re: #django-devel

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On 19-Jul-06, at 11:46 AM, Brantley Harris wrote:

> You keep #django open too and answer questions in there.  Therefore
> they have no reason to enter #django-devel.

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Re: #django-devel

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On 19-Jul-06, at 1:31 AM, Brantley Harris wrote:

>
> Being tired of all the craziness and mundane questions of #django, I
> created another room on freenode: #django-devel, where we can discuss
> the higher level Django related topics.

and how do you guarantee that the crazies and mundane types dont  
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Re: One Grateful New Djangotist Agrees

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On 19-Jun-06, at 11:28 PM, jorjun wrote:

> I am sure you have it now. But just to make sure, the next clue is  
> that
> it sounds a bit like "soap and phone"   ;0)

then nobody got it - because *that* is not a framework - it is an  
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Re: One Grateful New Djangotist Agrees

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On 19-Jun-06, at 2:38 PM, James Bennett wrote:

>
> On 6/19/06, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> yes - we are all ears
>
> Meh. The book-buying is a giveaway.

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Re: One Grateful New Djangotist Agrees

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On 19-Jun-06, at 2:04 PM, jorjun wrote:

>
> Which framework did I personally spend heaps of time investigating,
> book-buying and ultimately reject for my own purposes?

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Re: One Grateful New Djangotist Agrees

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On 18-Jun-06, at 5:01 PM, jorjun wrote:

> I spent a great deal of time trying to get to grips with a competing
> framework but my progress was painfully slow

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Re: using URLs that do not contain the primary key

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> I want to have a URL of the form
> /path/to/my/site/biographies/persons-name/ where 'persons-name' is a
> slug field for a class, but not the primary key...is this possible?

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Re: Samba Project News Site Goes Django

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On 14-Jun-06, at 10:54 AM, Deryck Hodge wrote:

> Maybe not entirely appropriate on the developers list, so please
> forgive
>
> Just wanted to say from one project to another, thanks for the  
> great tool.
> We've just moved our Samba news site into Django.
>
> http://news.samba.org/announcements/we_go_django/

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Re: django irc logger currently down

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great to see you back Georg
On 06-Jun-06, at 8:35 PM, hugo wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> the #django IRC logger is currently down - my provider blocks port 667
> now, without giving me a notice about it. That's why I didn't notice a
> problem until today. :-/
>
> I try to find a solution - either get the provider to open up the port
> again (it's rather silly to not allow root servers to use port  
> 6667 ...
> especially the client-side of it ...) or by moving the logger to a
> company machine where I control the firewall. I will give you a notice
> on it here as soon as I got a solution up.
>
> bye, Georg
>
>
> >

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Re: the so-called [AUDIT]

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 04-Jun-06, at 1:48 PM, Nagy Károly wrote:

> I assume he has/had some other aliases (can't remember, 3-4 week  
> ago was
> a girl nickname with same attitude)
> What is the point?

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Re: the so-called [AUDIT]

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On 03-Jun-06, at 10:37 PM, Jorge Gajon wrote:

> Unbelievable how can someone spend so much time and effort on trolling
> like this.
>
> It makes you question if someone is paying him to do this, or if he
> has a serious psychological condition that deserves its own branch of
> study.
>
> Good thing he got spotted sooner than later.

and he is pretty good - although he irritated me from the start, as  
being new to the devel list i thought that he was a senior hand and  
bent over backwards to be polite to him ...

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Re: Some thoughts on Django and usability

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On 01-Jun-06, at 12:32 PM, James Bennett wrote:

>
> This would, probably, offer some benefit to novice developers, because
> it's a couple less things they have to do at the outset (though it
> arguably adds in some "magic" that it's better to have them
> understand). But it offers zero benefit to experienced developers and,
> most likely, would hinder them: they're going to want to develop on
> something resembling their production environment, which means
> probably MySQL or PostgreSQL (maybe even Oracle once the adapter for
> it stabilizes sufficiently), and there's no guarantee that they'll
> want to use the admin app -- there are plenty of uses for Django that
> don't involve the admin at all. So this gets in their way and detracts
> from the out-of-the-box usability of Django for its core audience.

and as far as postgresql is concerned, i see a lot of use of  
triggers, rules, procedures etc which would be put in the db  
independantly of django. I also am already seeing bulk data entry,  
either script based or otherwise pulled from other sources, also  
directly to the database outside of django - so i agree, catering to  
group one should be the priority

>
> Thus, this proposal should probably be rejected.

as far as trunk goes - no harm having it somewhere in contrib if it  
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Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

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On 01-Jun-06, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>>> This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for
>>> Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the
>>> summer to see what happens with it.
>>
>> I cannot wait so long and additionally I sense several problems  
>> for the
>> SoC project:
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoSchemaEvolution
>
> ilias, you post this as if your URL detailed any of the following:
>  *) a design
>  *) a reason for your rush
>  *) the problems you sense for the SoC project
>
> i'm open to input if you have it, but this isn't of use as-is.

in addition google is shelling out money and support for this project  
and it is not going to look good or help our relationship with  
google, or django's image if people were to preempt or try to make  
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Re: Patch review procedure?

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On 31-May-06, at 7:07 PM, Michael Radziej wrote:

> It looks as if the current way to handle Django has overloaded the  
> core
> developers :-( Simple tickets shouldn't take long. And it would also
> help to know that your ticket ain't gonna make it, but in close time,
> not months later.

look at it this way - django 'stable' has not yet been released -  
patches make more sense when there is a stable version to be patched.  
At present, in a sense, everything is a patch including what the core  
devels are doing - and this will continue till stable 1.0 is released  
when, I assume, someone will be allotted solely to look after tickets  
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Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Friday 26 May 2006 8:14 am, Eugene Lazutkin wrote:
> > This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects
> > for   Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the
> > end of the summer to see what happens with it.
>
> ...or he can discuss it with Derek Anderson (the student) and
> Kenneth Gonsalves (the mentor) to make sure that Derek doesn't
> miss anything important. It is better to do it here in the list
> so others have an opportunity to help too.

as we are both here on the list, we can do it here

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Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:43 pm, Joseph Kocherhans wrote:
> Schema evolution support has already been discussed at length.
> See: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SchemaEvolution but it's
> not implemented yet.

there is a django soc project for this

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