Re: Admin browser support policy

2017-06-14 Thread Tim Graham
Django 1.11 dropped support for IE8 and below as those browsers are end of 
life.

It looks like we could now drop support for IE<11 based on this from 
Microsoft: "Beginning January 12, 2016, only the most current version of 
Internet Explorer available for a supported operating system will receive 
technical supports and security updates. Internet Explorer 11 is the last 
version of Internet Explorer, and will continue to receive security 
updates, compatibility fixes, and technical support on Windows 7, Windows 
8.1, and Windows 10." [0]

Yes, I would say we care about mobile browsers. Django 2.0 will likely add 
responsive CSS for the admin [1].

I'm not sure what "Does Safari deserve/require special casing?" means.

[0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/end-of-ie-support
[1] https://github.com/django/django/pull/8610

On Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 7:02:45 PM UTC-4, Curtis Maloney wrote:
>
> This topic seems to appear frequently over the years, but I've yet to 
> see a clear decision. 
>
> Without a clear Browser Support Policy for admin, it can be very unclear 
> what cleanups, optimisations, and improvements can be made. 
>
> Collin Anderson suggested supporting IE11+ ("as that's the latest on 
> Windows 7 and there's not much 9-10 usage"), and I'd suggest also 
> considering the general Google approach: 
>
> Basically, it's "Current and Previous version", and considering IE as 
> separate from Edge (so IE 10/11, Edge current and previous). 
>
> Does this sound fair and reasonable? 
> Do we care about mobile browsers? 
> Does Safari deserve/require special casing? 
>
> Once we can resolve this, I want to start working on revising all the 
> JS. But I won't start that until I know what dross I have to still drag 
> along. 
>
> -- 
> Curtis 
>

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Re: Admin browser support policy

2017-06-14 Thread Philip James
I certainly care about mobile support. Being able to use even a limited
version of Django admin on my phone would make my life significantly better.


PJJ
http://philipjohnjames.com

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Curtis Maloney  wrote:

> This topic seems to appear frequently over the years, but I've yet to see
> a clear decision.
>
> Without a clear Browser Support Policy for admin, it can be very unclear
> what cleanups, optimisations, and improvements can be made.
>
> Collin Anderson suggested supporting IE11+ ("as that's the latest on
> Windows 7 and there's not much 9-10 usage"), and I'd suggest also
> considering the general Google approach:
>
> Basically, it's "Current and Previous version", and considering IE as
> separate from Edge (so IE 10/11, Edge current and previous).
>
> Does this sound fair and reasonable?
> Do we care about mobile browsers?
> Does Safari deserve/require special casing?
>
> Once we can resolve this, I want to start working on revising all the JS.
> But I won't start that until I know what dross I have to still drag along.
>
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> Curtis
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Admin browser support policy

2017-06-14 Thread Curtis Maloney
This topic seems to appear frequently over the years, but I've yet to 
see a clear decision.


Without a clear Browser Support Policy for admin, it can be very unclear 
what cleanups, optimisations, and improvements can be made.


Collin Anderson suggested supporting IE11+ ("as that's the latest on 
Windows 7 and there's not much 9-10 usage"), and I'd suggest also 
considering the general Google approach:


Basically, it's "Current and Previous version", and considering IE as 
separate from Edge (so IE 10/11, Edge current and previous).


Does this sound fair and reasonable?
Do we care about mobile browsers?
Does Safari deserve/require special casing?

Once we can resolve this, I want to start working on revising all the 
JS. But I won't start that until I know what dross I have to still drag 
along.


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