Re: Default upload permissions

2018-12-10 Thread Ira Abbott
I like this solution, as it applies the fix for new things moving forward 
with no change in 
behavior to cause problem for existing tweaked in sites.  The most likely
time to run in to this problem is, in my opinion, is when varying platforms 
or starting fresh
projects.  Once settled in to a project/platform combination, minor OS and 
platform feature 
patches, etc. are are unlikely to change behavior.  


On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 11:04:21 AM UTC-5, René Fleschenberg wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> On 12/5/18 9:54 AM, Carlton Gibson wrote: 
> > *Proposal*: we should change the default for FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION to 
> > 0o644 (or maybe 0o664), and document that as a backward incompatible 
> > change. This would be correct for almost all users.  If you're 
> > deliberately leveraging `FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION = None` it's an easy 
> > switch back to the current behaviour. 
> As someone who wasted a couple of hours because of the current behavior, 
> I am very much in favor of this. 
>
> The second-best solution in my opinion would be to have ``manage.py 
> startproject`` explicitly write the setting, either as 0o644 or as 0o600. 
>
> -- 
> René Fleschenberg 
>

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Re: Default upload permissions

2018-12-07 Thread René Fleschenberg
Hi,

On 12/5/18 9:54 AM, Carlton Gibson wrote:
> *Proposal*: we should change the default for FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION to
> 0o644 (or maybe 0o664), and document that as a backward incompatible
> change. This would be correct for almost all users.  If you're
> deliberately leveraging `FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION = None` it's an easy
> switch back to the current behaviour. 
As someone who wasted a couple of hours because of the current behavior,
I am very much in favor of this.

The second-best solution in my opinion would be to have ``manage.py
startproject`` explicitly write the setting, either as 0o644 or as 0o600.

-- 
René Fleschenberg

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Re: Default upload permissions

2018-12-05 Thread Carlton Gibson
Hi all, 

This has come up again. So proposal below.

https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30004 "Document TemporaryUploadedFile 
potential permission issues"

Issue is that, with the default settings, you get 0o644 permissions for 
"small" files and 0o600 permissions for "big" ones. 
(Depending on which upload handler is used.)

History: 

* Claude and I discussed this a bit. 
* We are agreed the inconsistent default isn't great. 
* We noted just setting FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION solves this. 
* Given FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION = None, Claude suggested a patch which would 
"guess" the permissions to use from the process umask.
* I didn't like this: 
   * too clever, and ultimately not our business.
   * Would work for default settings but get in the way once you started 
using the related file upload settings. (And so would need an opt-out.) 
* In the end we just added a note to the deployment checklist. 

This wasn't good enough. (Clearly.) 

*Proposal*: we should change the default for FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION to 
0o644 (or maybe 0o664), and document that as a backward incompatible 
change. This would be correct for almost all users.  If you're deliberately 
leveraging `FILE_UPLOAD_PERMISSION = None` it's an easy switch back to the 
current behaviour. 

Can I ask you to comment? Thanks. 

Kind Regards,

Carlton
 



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