Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-06-17 Thread Todd Herr 
I have closed the subject ticket and incorporated relevant text
changes in draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-02,
which will be published on Datatracker as soon as the chairs have a chance
to do so.

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 8:30 PM Steven M Jones  wrote:

> On 5/28/21 08:43, Todd Herr wrote:
>
>
> Consensus on Ticket #50 
> (Remove ri= tag) was reached during the May 27 DMARC Interim to remove the
> tag and update the IANA registry to reflect its removal.
>
>
> I support removing the tag from the specification, but following TIm
> Wisnewski suggestion to mark the tag as "historic" in the IANA registry.
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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Steven M Jones 
On 5/28/21 08:43, Todd Herr wrote:
>
> Consensus on Ticket #50 
> (Remove ri= tag) was reached during the May 27 DMARC Interim to remove
> the tag and update the IANA registry to reflect its removal.


I support removing the tag from the specification, but following TIm
Wisnewski suggestion to mark the tag as "historic" in the IANA registry.


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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Tim Wicinski 
Editors,

I sent y'all a pull request.

Tim

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:35 PM Dotzero  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 1:59 PM John Levine  wrote:
>
>> It appears that Tim Wicinski   said:
>> >-=-=-=-=-=-
>> >
>> >All,
>> >
>> >This is the current text in Section 10.4 of dmarc-bis
>> >
>> >   Names of DMARC tags must be registered with IANA in this new sub-
>> >   registry.  New entries are assigned only for values that have been
>> >   documented in a manner that satisfies the terms of Specification
>> >   Required, per [RFC8126].  Each registration must include the tag
>> >   name; the specification that defines it; a brief description; and its
>> >   status, which must be one of "current", "experimental", or
>> >   "historic".  The Designated Expert needs to confirm that the provided
>> >   specification adequately describes the new tag and clearly presents
>> >   how it would be used within the DMARC context by Domain Owners and
>> >   Mail Receivers.
>> >
>> >I don't believe we can actually remove said tag from the IANA registry,
>> >but we can mark them as "historic", and remove the text from the
>> >new document.
>>
>> Marking it "historic" seems appropriate, since that'll keep future
>> versions
>> of DMARC from using it for something else.
>>
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>> John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
>> Dummies",
>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
>>
>
> +1
>
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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Dotzero 
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 1:59 PM John Levine  wrote:

> It appears that Tim Wicinski   said:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >All,
> >
> >This is the current text in Section 10.4 of dmarc-bis
> >
> >   Names of DMARC tags must be registered with IANA in this new sub-
> >   registry.  New entries are assigned only for values that have been
> >   documented in a manner that satisfies the terms of Specification
> >   Required, per [RFC8126].  Each registration must include the tag
> >   name; the specification that defines it; a brief description; and its
> >   status, which must be one of "current", "experimental", or
> >   "historic".  The Designated Expert needs to confirm that the provided
> >   specification adequately describes the new tag and clearly presents
> >   how it would be used within the DMARC context by Domain Owners and
> >   Mail Receivers.
> >
> >I don't believe we can actually remove said tag from the IANA registry,
> >but we can mark them as "historic", and remove the text from the
> >new document.
>
> Marking it "historic" seems appropriate, since that'll keep future versions
> of DMARC from using it for something else.
>
> --
> Regards,
> John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
> Dummies",
> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
>

+1

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread John Levine 
It appears that Tim Wicinski   said:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>All,
>
>This is the current text in Section 10.4 of dmarc-bis
>
>   Names of DMARC tags must be registered with IANA in this new sub-
>   registry.  New entries are assigned only for values that have been
>   documented in a manner that satisfies the terms of Specification
>   Required, per [RFC8126].  Each registration must include the tag
>   name; the specification that defines it; a brief description; and its
>   status, which must be one of "current", "experimental", or
>   "historic".  The Designated Expert needs to confirm that the provided
>   specification adequately describes the new tag and clearly presents
>   how it would be used within the DMARC context by Domain Owners and
>   Mail Receivers.
>
>I don't believe we can actually remove said tag from the IANA registry,
>but we can mark them as "historic", and remove the text from the
>new document.

Marking it "historic" seems appropriate, since that'll keep future versions
of DMARC from using it for something else.

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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Alessandro Vesely 

On Fri 28/May/2021 17:43:59 +0200 Todd Herr wrote:


Consensus on Ticket #50  (Remove 
ri= tag) was reached during the May 27 DMARC Interim to remove the tag and 
update the IANA registry to reflect its removal.



Agree to totally eliminate ri= from the spec.  Report producers should be free 
to choose the best reporting frequency.



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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Tim Wicinski 
All,

This is the current text in Section 10.4 of dmarc-bis

   Names of DMARC tags must be registered with IANA in this new sub-
   registry.  New entries are assigned only for values that have been
   documented in a manner that satisfies the terms of Specification
   Required, per [RFC8126].  Each registration must include the tag
   name; the specification that defines it; a brief description; and its
   status, which must be one of "current", "experimental", or
   "historic".  The Designated Expert needs to confirm that the provided
   specification adequately describes the new tag and clearly presents
   how it would be used within the DMARC context by Domain Owners and
   Mail Receivers.

I don't believe we can actually remove said tag from the IANA registry,
but we can mark them as "historic", and remove the text from the
new document.

Someone should consult with the IANA folks for specifics.
I'll volunteer to take point if so desired.

tim



On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 11:44 AM Todd Herr  wrote:

> Greetings.
>
> Consensus on Ticket #50 
> (Remove ri= tag) was reached during the May 27 DMARC Interim to remove the
> tag and update the IANA registry to reflect its removal.
>
> I seek consensus from the working group at large on this ticket, and
> request that a decision be made by Friday, June 11. Discussions about this
> issue should be contained in this thread.
>
> Thank you.
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[dmarc-ietf] Consensus Sought - Ticket #50 (Remove ri= tag) - With Interim Notes

2021-05-28 Thread Todd Herr 
Greetings.

Consensus on Ticket #50 
(Remove ri= tag) was reached during the May 27 DMARC Interim to remove the
tag and update the IANA registry to reflect its removal.

I seek consensus from the working group at large on this ticket, and
request that a decision be made by Friday, June 11. Discussions about this
issue should be contained in this thread.

Thank you.

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