Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Florian Zieboll]

Devuan Jessie-to-Ascii upgrade report (AMD64): 

LXDE with Slim display manager (task-lxde-desktop @norecommends), the
underlying base installation originates from an early netinstall-iso,
most probably the 2015 "Valentine" edition.


*** APT CONFIGURATION ***

apt sources:

  pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/  [jessie|ascii]
  pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/  [jessie|ascii]-updates
  contrib non-free
  pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/  [jessie|ascii]-backports
  pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/  [jessie|ascii]-security
  www.deb-multimedia.org/   [jessie|stretch]
# security.debian.org/  jessie/updates } REMOVED FOR UPGRADE


apt preferences:

  Package: *
  Pin: release a=[jessie|ascii]-backports
  Pin-Priority: 150

  Package: *
  Pin: origin "www.deb-multimedia.org"
  Pin-Priority: 75

# Package: libsystemd0 \
# Pin: release o=*  } REMOVED FOR UPGRADE
# Pin-Priority: -1 /

  Package: systemd
  Pin: release o=*
  Pin-Priority: -1

  Package: systemd-sysv
  Pin: release o=*
  Pin-Priority: -1


*** BEFORE UPGRADE (Jessie) ***

$ dpkg -l *consolekit*
  ii  consolekit   0.4.6-5

$ dpkg -l libpolkit-*
  ii  libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd640.105-9+devuan1
  ii  libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64  0.105-9+devuan1
  ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64  0.105-9+devuan1
  ii  libpolkit-qt-1-1 0.103.0-1

$ dpkg -l *elogind*
  


*** UPGRADE ISSUES ***

the upgrade went smoothly, besides

- a dpkg error for blueman (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound),
  which disappeared after reboot (another dist-upgrade returned empty)

- at reboot, grub reported a "no symbol table" error, which could be
  fixed by re-installing grub to the MBR of my first disk (where it had
  been before the upgrade, too)

- after the upgrade, I could no longer reboot/shutdown from within
  LXDE, which could be solved by manually installing libpam-elogind

- the Logitech trackball is now driven by libinput instead of evdev,
  so I had to add (append) the lost scroll wheel functionality to 
  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf


*** AFTER UPGRADE (Ascii) ***

$ dpkg -l *consolekit*
  ii  consolekit   0.4.6-6
  ii  libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:amd64   0.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:amd64   0.105-18+devuan2.9

$ dpkg -l libpolkit-*
  ii  libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd640.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-backend-1-00.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:amd64   0.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-00.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:amd64   0.105-18+devuan2.9
  ii  libpolkit-qt-1-1:amd64   0.112.0-5
  ii  libpolkit-qt5-1-1:amd64  0.112.0-5 

$ dpkg -l *elogind*   # BEFORE fixing the LXDE reboot/shutdown issue
  

$ dpkg -l *elogind*   # AFTER fixing the LXDE reboot/shutdown issue
  ii  elogind  234.4-2
  ii  libelogind0:amd64234.4-2
  ii  libpam-elogind:amd64 234.4-2


Thank you und libre Grüße,

Florian



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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[info at smallinnovations dot nl]

On 19-04-18 12:16, Irrwahn wrote:

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.

Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is
always a Good Thing[TM].

Thank you very much, any help you can offer is much appreciated!

Best regards
Urban

[1] Available here:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
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Updated from debian jessie to devuan ascii on a very minimal hosted 
server (apache2 for testing purposes).


Changed sources.list to my own mirror and ascii
apt-get update
apt-get install devuan-keyring
apt-get dist-upgrade
Everything fine except that systemd will not be removed
Reboot after checking sysvinit core has been installed
apt-get dist-upgrade
And system is now devuan ascii!!!

Grtz.

Nick

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[fsmithred]

On 04/21/2018 04:46 AM, David Kuehling wrote:
> about crypto disks not being stopped (running encrypted root with lvm).
> 
> Now after reading this email I just ran another round of 'apt-get update
> && apt-get dist-upgrade' and things look a little better now: shutdown
> via xfce menu works, however, during shutdown it does not show any of
> the shutdown messages any more, so I cannot verify whether crypto disk
> unmounting works any better now.

Aren't you getting a half-minute delay on shutdown? There are some debian
bug reports about this with various fixes proposed. This one worked for me:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8300#p8300

I don't know what to do about the missing messages.

fsmithred

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[David Kuehling]

> "Irrwahn" == Irrwahn   writes:

[..]

> Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
> have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch)
> desktop machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to
> sacrifice for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you
> should report any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The
> main observation focus should be set on session related functionality,
> especially the ability to user mount removable drives and to restart
> or shutdown the machine using the controls offered by the respective
> desktop environment.

I upgraded from Devuan jessie to Devuan ascii last week without
problems.  However, after upgrading system shutdown from the XFCE menu
did not work any more.  Shutting down manually via the linux console
('halt') did work.  However during shutdown it then complained something
about crypto disks not being stopped (running encrypted root with lvm).

Now after reading this email I just ran another round of 'apt-get update
&& apt-get dist-upgrade' and things look a little better now: shutdown
via xfce menu works, however, during shutdown it does not show any of
the shutdown messages any more, so I cannot verify whether crypto disk
unmounting works any better now.

cheers,

David
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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 04/19/2018 11:56 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 04/19/2018 01:00 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 04/19/2018 03:16 AM, Irrwahn wrote:

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop 
environment.


Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is
always a Good Thing[TM].



I'm on it, so far checked md5 and it's okay and I dd to usb and it 
boots to the installer. :)


Currently I'm making some new partitions to test on and that's going 
to take awhile.  I will be installing TDE-Trinity for Stretch and get 
back to you ASAP.


This install is from the current ASCII release with the 4.9.0-4 kernel 
now fully upgraded and clean with TDE and it's working on 4 different 
computers intel and amd from 2 cores to 8 cores.


Partitions are ready for new install.



Everything seems to be okay on this Dell Latitude E6430 laptop, 
TDE-Trinity is installed and updated, I have another install going on 
another computer, it's a T20 Dell server.


Your mini.iso has worked for me, this Dell T20 server is working fine.

Thank you,
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Devuan ASCII - Trinity TDE-3 version R14.0.5 - Intel G3220 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 04/19/2018 01:00 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 04/19/2018 03:16 AM, Irrwahn wrote:

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.

Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is
always a Good Thing[TM].



I'm on it, so far checked md5 and it's okay and I dd to usb and it boots 
to the installer. :)


Currently I'm making some new partitions to test on and that's going to 
take awhile.  I will be installing TDE-Trinity for Stretch and get back 
to you ASAP.


This install is from the current ASCII release with the 4.9.0-4 kernel 
now fully upgraded and clean with TDE and it's working on 4 different 
computers intel and amd from 2 cores to 8 cores.


Partitions are ready for new install.



Everything seems to be okay on this Dell Latitude E6430 laptop, 
TDE-Trinity is installed and updated, I have another install going on 
another computer, it's a T20 Dell server.


Later,
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Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - Intel i7-3540M - EXT4 at sda12
Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Irrwahn]

Irrwahn wrote on 19.04.2018 12:16:
> Dear Devuaners,
> 
> the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for 
> Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but 
> particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of 
> some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation 
> of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades 
> of existing installations.
[...]

For the record:

The following irregularities have already surfaced for fresh 
installations using the current state of the repositories: 
Installing SSH server in combination with a desktop environment 
that originally depends on consolekit session management 
results in elogind being installed (peculiar, but not harmful 
per se) and a mismatch of the policykit backend libraries - 
this definitely *is* a problem! 

Note that in each of the cases listed below both consolekit 
and elogind are present (weird, but not a problem in itself) 
and the elogind PAM module libpam-elogind is installed, while 
the consolekit PAM module libpam-ck-connector is missing -
which makes more or less sense, as these two are mutually 
exclusive. *However*, and this is the crux, given that exact
constellation it would be correct to also have the matching 
libpolkit-(backend|gobject)-elogind-1-0 packages, but instead 
the corresponding *-consolekit-* packages are installed.
Thus, unfortunately something is still slightly off with the 
polkit dependencies.

1. Standard install, Xfce + SSH server
 ii consolekit 0.4.6-6
 ii elogind 234.4-2
 ii libelogind0:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpam-elogind:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii policykit-1 0.105-18+devuan2.9


2. Standard install, LXDE + SSH server
 ii consolekit 0.4.6-6
 ii elogind 234.4-2
 ii libelogind0:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpam-elogind:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-qt5-1-1:amd64 0.112.0-5
 ii lxpolkit 0.5.3-2
 ii lxqt-policykit 0.11.1-1
 ii lxqt-policykit-l10n 0.11.2-1
 ii policykit-1 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii policykit-1-gnome 0.105-6

3. Expert install, MATE + SSH server 
 ii consolekit 0.4.6-6
 ii elogind 234.4-2
 ii libelogind0:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpam-elogind:amd64 234.4-2
 ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-1-0 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0:amd64 0.105-18+devuan2.9
 ii mate-polkit:amd64 1.16.0-2
 ii mate-polkit-common 1.16.0-2
 ii policykit-1 0.105-18+devuan2.9

Best regards
Urban

P.S.: In preliminary tests those DEs relying on elogind (e.g. 
LXQt, Cinnamon) do not suffer from this bug and correctly get 
a "pure" elogind session management with correctly matched 
policykit backend|gobject libraries.
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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 04/19/2018 03:16 AM, Irrwahn wrote:

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.

Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is
always a Good Thing[TM].



I'm on it, so far checked md5 and it's okay and I dd to usb and it boots 
to the installer. :)


Currently I'm making some new partitions to test on and that's going to 
take awhile.  I will be installing TDE-Trinity for Stretch and get back 
to you ASAP.


This install is from the current ASCII release with the 4.9.0-4 kernel 
now fully upgraded and clean with TDE and it's working on 4 different 
computers intel and amd from 2 cores to 8 cores.


Partitions are ready for new install.

Later.
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Devuan ASCII - Trinity TDE-3 version R14.0.5 - Intel P8400 - EXT4 at sda6
Registered Linux User #380263

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[KatolaZ]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:16:49PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> Dear Devuaners,
> 
> the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for 
> Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but 
> particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of 
> some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation 
> of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades 
> of existing installations.
> 
> Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to 
> have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop 
> machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice 
> for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report 
> any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation 
> focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the 
> ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the 
> machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.
> 
> Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the 
> latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should 
> already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is 
> always a Good Thing[TM].
> 
> Thank you very much, any help you can offer is much appreciated! 
> 

If I can add 1cent, if you encounter any problem in upgrading, please
include the following information in your report:

- desktop environment you are using;

- whether the corresponding task-*-desktop was installed or not before you 
  upgraded;

- whether you had consolekit and/or elogind installed in the system
  *before* and *after* the upgrade;

- the list of libpolkit-* packages installed in the system *before*
  and *after* the upgrade;

Now is the time to help out. A usual, having a clean release depends
on each of us, the D1rs.

My2Cents

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[DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

[Irrwahn]

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for 
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but 
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of 
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation 
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades 
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to 
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop 
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice 
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report 
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation 
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the 
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the 
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.

Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the 
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should 
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is 
always a Good Thing[TM].

Thank you very much, any help you can offer is much appreciated! 

Best regards
Urban

[1] Available here:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
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