Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[aitor_czr]

On 05/03/18 16:05, Emiliano Marini wrote:

aitor_czr,

Yes, I'm working on the 'es' branch (50% done).

If you like, please checkout the same branch and help me out with the 
rest of the documents. Besides we need a proofread on what is already 
translated to Spanish.


Ok, thanks :)


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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Emiliano Marini]

aitor_czr,

Yes, I'm working on the 'es' branch (50% done).

If you like, please checkout the same branch and help me out with the rest
of the documents. Besides we need a proofread on what is already translated
to Spanish.

Cheers,
Emiliano.


On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 8:29 PM, aitor_czr  wrote:

> Hi Chillfan,
> On 19/02/18 02:33, Chillfan wrote:
>
> It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
> translate.
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md
>
>  ​Thanks,
>
>  chillfan
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[info at smallinnovations dot nl]

On 05-03-18 02:36, aitor_czr wrote:


Hi again,

On 04/03/18 23:29, aitor_czr wrote:


Hi Chillfan,

On 19/02/18 02:33, Chillfan wrote:

It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
translate.

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md

  ​Thanks,

  chillfan

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Several tutorials have been translated to spanish:

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/tree/es/es

Emiliano Marini?


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Deal with it and install ntp.

Grtz.

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[aitor_czr]

Hi again,

On 04/03/18 23:29, aitor_czr wrote:


Hi Chillfan,

On 19/02/18 02:33, Chillfan wrote:

It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
translate.

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md

  ​Thanks,

  chillfan

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Several tutorials have been translated to spanish:

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/tree/es/es

Emiliano Marini?


date --set "2018-03-05 01:34"
hwclock --set --date="2018-03-05 01:34"

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[aitor_czr]

Hi Chillfan,

On 19/02/18 02:33, Chillfan wrote:

It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
translate.

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md

  ​Thanks,

  chillfan

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Several tutorials have been translated to spanish:

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/tree/es/es

Emiliano Marini?


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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Clarke Sideroad]

On 02/27/2018 04:48 AM, KatolaZ wrote:

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 04:00:30AM -0500, Chillfan wrote:

In my testing from stretch there was no traditional networking  there which 
makes networking a difficult transition. But I wasn't aware of this particular 
issue.

I've made a note just now that manual network configuration is a requirement 
when working remotely, and updated the manual network configuration page. I'll 
also create update the website in a moment and make the merge request.

Please would translators hold off on those pages for now or update them if 
you've already done the work. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks,


Dear Chillfan,

sorry for pestering you, but by reading the same page again I was
wondering if the transition to wicd is really necessary. As a matter
of fact, we do have a network-manager package in the Devuan repos
(both for Jessie and for ASCII), and it has been reported to work just
fine. I am the least qualified person to speak about that since I
don't use nm, but if replacing it is not mandatory, we could perhaps
amend the first part of the document accordingly, e.g., suggesting
users the possibility of choosing between nm and wicd.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

On this particular installation I removed wicd and switched to connman 
as it is also available in the repositories and seems to work fine for 
me.   Choice is good. (-:


I was finding wicd hit or miss with what appeared to be some kind of 
conflict on this ascii install  and I really can't get my head into 
using network-manager due to bad experiences using its forebear 
"network-mangler".


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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

For Strech there looks to be something blocking that for now, and xorg is 
getting removed during dist-upgrade. After removing network-manager that didn't 
seem to be an issue, but systemd will block that when trying to upgrade 
network-manager (and eudev) first.

So, I will need to do some more testing and improving on ascii migrations and 
network configuration.

​Thanks,

chillfan

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On February 27, 2018 9:53 AM, J. Fahrner j...@fahrner.name wrote:

> Am 2018-02-27 10:48, schrieb KatolaZ:
> 
> > sorry for pestering you, but by reading the same page again I was
> > 
> > wondering if the transition to wicd is really necessary.
> 
> I also wondered when I translated the pages
> 
> Jochen
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[J. Fahrner]

Am 2018-02-27 10:48, schrieb KatolaZ:

sorry for pestering you, but by reading the same page again I was
wondering if the transition to wicd is really necessary.


I also wondered when I translated the pages

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[KatolaZ]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 04:00:30AM -0500, Chillfan wrote:
> In my testing from stretch there was no traditional networking  there which 
> makes networking a difficult transition. But I wasn't aware of this 
> particular issue.
> 
> I've made a note just now that manual network configuration is a requirement 
> when working remotely, and updated the manual network configuration page. 
> I'll also create update the website in a moment and make the merge request.
> 
> Please would translators hold off on those pages for now or update them if 
> you've already done the work. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Dear Chillfan,

sorry for pestering you, but by reading the same page again I was
wondering if the transition to wicd is really necessary. As a matter
of fact, we do have a network-manager package in the Devuan repos
(both for Jessie and for ASCII), and it has been reported to work just
fine. I am the least qualified person to speak about that since I
don't use nm, but if replacing it is not mandatory, we could perhaps
amend the first part of the document accordingly, e.g., suggesting
users the possibility of choosing between nm and wicd.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

In my testing from stretch there was no traditional networking  there which 
makes networking a difficult transition. But I wasn't aware of this particular 
issue.

I've made a note just now that manual network configuration is a requirement 
when working remotely, and updated the manual network configuration page. I'll 
also create update the website in a moment and make the merge request.

Please would translators hold off on those pages for now or update them if 
you've already done the work. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks,

chillfan

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On February 26, 2018 10:01 PM, KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:33:29PM -0500, Chillfan wrote:
> 
> > It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available 
> > to translate.
> > 
> > https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > chillfan
> 
> Dear Chillfan,
> 
> I just discovered a quite serious glitch that I guess might already be
> 
> known: upgrading Debian stretch to ASCII following the tutorial at the
> 
> link above will not work properly, since stretch does not have a
> 
> /etc/network/interfaces file any more (that's now deprecated in
> 
> Debian).
> 
> This means that an upgrade on a remote server requires the admin to
> 
> create that file by hand first, and then reboot into sysvinit,
> 
> otherwise the server will be unreachable after reboot (and might
> 
> require a costly console intervention in some cases).
> 
> We must put this fact into evidence in the tutorial, and add all the
> 
> relevant warnings around. Actually, it would be better to have a
> 
> script that creates a skeleton for /etc/network/interfaces, and then
> 
> asks the admin to double-check it before a reboot.
> 
> My2Cents
> 
> KatolaZ
> 
> \[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab \]
> 
> \[ "+. katolaz \[at\] freaknet.org \-\-\- katolaz \[at\] yahoo.it \]
> 
> \[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu \-\-\- Devuan GNU + Linux User \]
> 
> \[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia \-\- GPG: 0B5F062F \]
> 
> \[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ \]
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[KatolaZ]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:33:29PM -0500, Chillfan wrote:
> It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
> translate.
> 
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md
> 
>  ​Thanks,
> 
>  chillfan
> 


Dear Chillfan,

I just discovered a quite serious glitch that I guess might already be
known: upgrading Debian stretch to ASCII following the tutorial at the
link above will not work properly, since stretch does not have a
/etc/network/interfaces file any more (that's now deprecated in
Debian).

This means that an upgrade on a remote server requires the admin to
create that file by hand first, and then reboot into sysvinit,
otherwise the server will be unreachable after reboot (and might
require a costly console intervention in some cases).

We must put this fact into evidence in the tutorial, and add all the
relevant warnings around. Actually, it would be better to have a
script that creates a skeleton for /etc/network/interfaces, and then
asks the admin to double-check it before a reboot.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

We're looking quite good for translations, so I'll start work on integrating 
them soon.

When that's done, I would like to add separate index pages for each language. I 
can create those and include links to what we have but the index pages 
themselves will need translation. I will let everyone know when this is done, 
so we can have readable index pages in each language.

 ​Thanks,

 chillfan
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

It turns out the ASCII migration page is still correct, so it's available to 
translate.

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-ascii.md

 ​Thanks,

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

That would be welcome, thank you. 

When you are done please send me an attachment off list, and I will work on 
adding that.

​Thanks, 

chillfan

> Hi,
>
> I would like to contribute translations for the Greek language.
> While getting myself organized and more familiar with the content, I
> have decided to start with this file
>https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.md
>
> I will send a draft for review as soon as possible, although I am not
> sure there is another Greek speaking person in this mailing list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Menelaos Maglis mmag...@metacom.gr
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Menelaos Maglis]

Chillfan  writes:

> I’m happy to accept translations for languages we don’t have yet as
> well.
>
> If you would like to help out, please reply to this topic.
>
> As far as what needs translating, anything translated from the git
> repository will be appreciated.  
>
> The translations we already have are here:
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/home#translations
>  
>
> The git repository is available here:
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/tree/master 
>
> For those not familiar with git it’s fine to click on the .md file you
> want to translate, view it in RAW format, download and email it back
> to me after translation.
>
> If you choose a page to work with please reply to this post, this
> should save any duplication of work. If you want someone to verify
> your work or 
> provide improvements, you can reply to this topic as well.

Hi,

I would like to contribute translations for the Greek language.
While getting myself organized and more familiar with the content, I
have decided to start with this file
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.md

I will send a draft for review as soon as possible, although I am not
sure there is another Greek speaking person in this mailing list.

Regards,

Menelaos Maglis 
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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

Hi Aitor, 

Thanks for providing versions in pdf and odt, that should be helpful for 
offline reading. 

linuxito is also working on Spanish translations in git on the es branch, so 
you should be able to see what's already done and maybe integrate that.

Many thanks to you both.

So a little update for the list:

There is now plenty of help for Spanish translations.

Someone has offered to translate the pages I mentioned above in German, and 
I've already received some translations for those pages.

I will update the status of translations so far, please keep an eye on this 
page: 
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/translation-work

Also please remember to mention your name in translations, unless you really 
prefer no attribution. It should be enough to say "Translation by " in the language you're translating to, that should give 
appropriate credit.

Much appreciated, 

chillfan
​

 Original Message 
 On February 18, 2018 10:11 AM, aitor_czr  wrote:

>
>Hi chillfan,
>
>On 17/02/18 15:36, Chillfan wrote:
>
>>As an afterthought.. 
>>
>>It's roughly these pages are important to have translations for:
>>
>> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.mdhttps://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-jessie.mdhttps://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/network-configuration.mdhttps://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/upgrade-to-ascii.md
>>
>>Note that ascii migration instructions need checking right now due to the 
>>beta release, and may change again later when ascii has a stable release.
>>
>>This would be enough to start off a section for each language with their own 
>>index pages.
>>
>>​Thanks, 
>>
>>chillfan
>>
>I started translating your documentation:
>
>http://gnuinos.org/Chillfan's%20docs/
>
> I'm doing it in both *.odt and *.pdf formats.
>
> HTH,
>
>   Aitor.
>
>
>

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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:08:28 -0500, Chillfan wrote in message 

Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[aitor_czr]

Hi chillfan,

On 17/02/18 15:36, Chillfan wrote:

As an afterthought..

It's roughly these pages are important to have translations for:

  https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.md  


https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-jessie.md

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/network-configuration.md  


https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/upgrade-to-ascii.md

Note that ascii migration instructions need checking right now due to the beta 
release, and may change again later when ascii has a stable release.

This would be enough to start off a section for each language with their own 
index pages.

​Thanks,

chillfan


I started translating your documentation:

http://gnuinos.org/Chillfan's%20docs/ 



I'm doing it in both *.odt and *.pdf formats.

HTH,

  Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

[Chillfan]

As an afterthought.. 

It's roughly these pages are important to have translations for:

 
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/general-information.md
 

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/migrate-to-jessie.md

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/network-configuration.md
 

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/blob/master/upgrade-to-ascii.md

Note that ascii migration instructions need checking right now due to the beta 
release, and may change again later when ascii has a stable release.

This would be enough to start off a section for each language with their own 
index pages.

​Thanks, 

chillfan
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