Re: [DNG] Ascii install in VM

2018-03-05 Thread Patrick Dunford

I have to do ifdown ifup every time I start my VM


On 05/03/18 06:34, Rowland Penny wrote:

I installed Ascii in VM with a fixed IP and the install went without
any problems or errors, but when it rebooted, there was no network.

I checked and the ipaddress was set to '192.168.0.36/24' and there
wasn't a netmask setting. Removed the '/24' and added  'netmask
255.255.255.0'

Restarted wicd, but still no network, so checked the wicd log and found
this:

2018/03/04 16:24:39 :: Running command ['ifconfig', 'eth0' failed:
[Errno 2] No such file or directory

Bit of a chicken and egg situation here ;-)
No network because net-tools isn't installed and I need network to
install net-tools

Thinking laterally, I removed 'wicd wicd-gtk wicd-daemon python-wicd
wpasupplicant' and rebooted. I now had my fixed IP. Re-installed the
packages I had removed and rebooted again, wicd now worked correctly.

If Devuan wants to continue using wicd, I think it is going to have to
install net-tools as part of the install.

Rowland
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Re: [DNG] pam_limits or limits.conf different from Debian?

2018-03-01 Thread Patrick Dunford

No red flags for any of that stuff

On a Debian Buster VM where the increased file limit put into 
limits.conf obviously works, the result of ulimit -n comes out the same 
1024 as on my Devuan VM.


The subtleties of why one distro would use one mechanism and a similar 
one a different mechanism (apparently) are all the things that frustrate 
people like me :)


Thanks


On 02/03/18 12:02, KatolaZ wrote:

On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:50:23PM +, KatolaZ wrote:

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:52:40AM +1300, BWK wrote:

Gidday all

I use qgis and have some projects in it that open over 1000 layers. This
runs up against the file open limit usually preset to 1000 in many distros.

in Debian I can edit /etc/security/limits.conf and set * soft nofile 1
to be able to open the projects with more than 1000 layers without seeing
rejected file open requests and crashes from the software

This seems not to work in Devuan 2.0. Is there a hard limit somewhere else
of less than 1000 or is a different configuration system used (even though
this file is present)

Just a (possibly unrelated) random thought: I guess you have already
had a look at `ulimit -n`, right?



Another possibly unrelated thought: if you have mangled with
/etc/pam.d/login, you must make sure that it contains:

   sessionrequired   pam_limits.so

otherwise /etc/security/limits.conf gets ignored. You might also want
to check if you have anything in /etc/security/limits.d

Also, when you sets new limits the changes will apply only after you
logout and login again.

Also, you could check the system-wide file limit at
/proc/sys/fs/file-max (unlikely to be a problem)

Sorry if I have stated obvious facts at any point.

HTH

KatolaZ



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Re: [DNG] pam_limits or limits.conf different from Debian?

2018-03-01 Thread Patrick Dunford
setting a new value via ulimit is not effective and the value does not 
persist in any case.



On 02/03/18 11:50, KatolaZ wrote:

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:52:40AM +1300, BWK wrote:

Gidday all

I use qgis and have some projects in it that open over 1000 layers. This
runs up against the file open limit usually preset to 1000 in many distros.

in Debian I can edit /etc/security/limits.conf and set * soft nofile 1
to be able to open the projects with more than 1000 layers without seeing
rejected file open requests and crashes from the software

This seems not to work in Devuan 2.0. Is there a hard limit somewhere else
of less than 1000 or is a different configuration system used (even though
this file is present)

Just a (possibly unrelated) random thought: I guess you have already
had a look at `ulimit -n`, right?

My2Cents

KatolaZ



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Re: [DNG] pam_limits or limits.conf different from Debian?

2018-03-01 Thread Patrick Dunford

It returns 1024

So what does that mean?

Thanks


On 02/03/18 11:50, KatolaZ wrote:

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:52:40AM +1300, BWK wrote:

Gidday all

I use qgis and have some projects in it that open over 1000 layers. This
runs up against the file open limit usually preset to 1000 in many distros.

in Debian I can edit /etc/security/limits.conf and set * soft nofile 1
to be able to open the projects with more than 1000 layers without seeing
rejected file open requests and crashes from the software

This seems not to work in Devuan 2.0. Is there a hard limit somewhere else
of less than 1000 or is a different configuration system used (even though
this file is present)

Just a (possibly unrelated) random thought: I guess you have already
had a look at `ulimit -n`, right?

My2Cents

KatolaZ



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Re: [DNG] pam_limits or limits.conf different from Debian?

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick Dunford
I did some more tweaking, and basically it looks like I have to set the 
hard limit higher as well as the soft limit, in /etc/security/limits.conf


The hard limit in Debian must be set higher somewhere else, because you 
don't have to set that one in the same file normally.


Thanks for your assistance.


On 02/03/18 21:28, KatolaZ wrote:

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 02:13:15PM +1300, Patrick Dunford wrote:

No red flags for any of that stuff

On a Debian Buster VM where the increased file limit put into limits.conf
obviously works, the result of ulimit -n comes out the same 1024 as on my
Devuan VM.

The subtleties of why one distro would use one mechanism and a similar one a
different mechanism (apparently) are all the things that frustrate people
like me :)


The thing is that I guess Devuan ASCII has not (willingly) changed any
default in that respect, so the same problem might be present in
debian stretch.

This post:

   
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46441602/how-to-change-open-files-ulimit-n-permanently-for-normal-user-in-debian-stret

suggests that libpam-systemd seems to ignore /etc/security/limits.conf
by default. The easy way to check is by logging in from a tty, and
looking at:

  $ ulimit -n

I tried it now, setting nofile to 2, and it correctly shows the
new value. Which polkit backend are you using? We might have inherited
an unwanted behaviour in libpam-elogind, possibly.

HND

KatolaZ



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[DNG] Network initialisation fail in Devuan 2.0

2018-03-02 Thread Patrick Dunford

Apologies if this already covered, I only got to this list recently.

When I start the VM the network comes up not functioning, and I have to 
put in ifdown and then ifup to get it working.


This is a Virtualbox VM and has the Virtualbox guest extensions installed.

TIA

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