Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt

2020-07-25 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi all,

On 7/21/20 8:40 PM, Z.W. Yan wrote:
> Thank you for your comments and suggestions, Vittorio.
> I think it is also suitable in Dprive, because Dprive mainly aims to produce 
> the DNS privacy related solutions.
> And this service discovery related scheme is tightly related with the 
> solution, but it also depends on the comments of the Chairs, :-)
> 

There are a number of DNS-related drafts that are currently without an
identified WG home. The chairs are working with our AD to initiate a
discussion with chairs and ADs of DNSOP and ADD to discuss this
situation. Once we get through that exercise, someone in leadership will
communicate the proposed direction to the necessary mailing lists.

Regards,
Brian

> 
> 
> Z.W. Yan
>  
> From: Vittorio Bertola
> Date: 2020-07-21 20:28
> To: Z.W. Yan
> CC: gggeng; xincha.zhang; dns-privacy; liuyang7
> Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for 
> draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt
>   
> Il 21/07/2020 02:27 Z.W. Yan  ha scritto: 
>   
>   
> Correct, Stephane, the notification from resolver is more direct. 
> However, based on DHCP/ICMP is also an approach because the end-user is 
> always bootstrapping based on DHCP/ICMP for the address configuration and so 
> on. 
> Besides, the configuration of resolver can be supported by DHCP/ICMP and only 
> an extension is needed based on RFC3646/4339... 
> I think it makes sense to standardize Do* service discovery via DHCP, then 
> people will decide whether they want to make use of it or not. 
>   
> I would however note that this draft (subject to assessment by the WG chairs) 
> might be more in topic for the ADD working group - you may want to post it 
> there. 
>   
> 
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Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt

2020-07-21 Thread Z.W. Yan
Thank you for your comments and suggestions, Vittorio.
I think it is also suitable in Dprive, because Dprive mainly aims to produce 
the DNS privacy related solutions.
And this service discovery related scheme is tightly related with the solution, 
but it also depends on the comments of the Chairs, :-)



Z.W. Yan
 
From: Vittorio Bertola
Date: 2020-07-21 20:28
To: Z.W. Yan
CC: gggeng; xincha.zhang; dns-privacy; liuyang7
Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for 
draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt
  
Il 21/07/2020 02:27 Z.W. Yan  ha scritto: 
  
  
Correct, Stephane, the notification from resolver is more direct. 
However, based on DHCP/ICMP is also an approach because the end-user is always 
bootstrapping based on DHCP/ICMP for the address configuration and so on. 
Besides, the configuration of resolver can be supported by DHCP/ICMP and only 
an extension is needed based on RFC3646/4339... 
I think it makes sense to standardize Do* service discovery via DHCP, then 
people will decide whether they want to make use of it or not. 
  
I would however note that this draft (subject to assessment by the WG chairs) 
might be more in topic for the ADD working group - you may want to post it 
there. 
  
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vittorio.bert...@open-xchange.com 
Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy
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Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt

2020-07-21 Thread Vittorio Bertola


> Il 21/07/2020 02:27 Z.W. Yan  ha scritto:
>  
>  
> Correct, Stephane, the notification from resolver is more direct.
> However, based on DHCP/ICMP is also an approach because the end-user is 
> always bootstrapping based on DHCP/ICMP for the address configuration and so 
> on.
> Besides, the configuration of resolver can be supported by DHCP/ICMP and 
> only an extension is needed based on RFC3646/4339...
> 
I think it makes sense to standardize Do* service discovery via DHCP, then 
people will decide whether they want to make use of it or not.

I would however note that this draft (subject to assessment by the WG chairs) 
might be more in topic for the ADD working group - you may want to post it 
there.

-- 

Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange
vittorio.bert...@open-xchange.com mailto:vittorio.bert...@open-xchange.com 
Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy
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Re: [dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt

2020-07-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:17:57AM +0800,
 Z.W. Yan  wrote 
 a message of 120 lines which said:

> The motivation of this draft is to actively indicate the privacy
> protection capability of the recursive server.

The approach in draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-information seems better since:
* it is more general, not limited to privacy,
* the information is sent by the resolver itself, who probably knows
 better than the DHCP server.

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[dns-privacy] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt

2020-07-12 Thread Z.W. Yan
Dear All,
The motivation of this draft is to actively indicate the privacy protection 
capability of the recursive server.
We can consider the extension of ND and DHCP protocols to support this 
configuration.
BR,
Zhiwei

From: internet-drafts
Date: 2020-07-13 08:41
To: Xinchang Zhang; Zhiwei Yan; Guanggang Geng; Yang Liu
Subject: New Version Notification for 
draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt
 
A new version of I-D, draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt
has been successfully submitted by Zhiwei Yan and posted to the
IETF repository.
 
Name: draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication
Revision: 02
Title: Indication of Local DNS Privacy Service During User Access
Document date: 2020-07-12
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 4
URL:
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02.txt
Status: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication/
Htmlized:   
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02
Htmlized:   
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication
Diff:   
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-yan-dprive-local-service-indication-02
 
Abstract:
   This document aims to support the indication of privacy service of
   recursive resolver during the user access.
 
 

  
 
 
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