[Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
Hi all. I'm try to use ipv6 slaac addresses and get global routing in
my simple network.
What i need to specify in dnsmasq.conf to provide global prefix to nodes?

Now i write
dhcp-range=::1,slaac,5m
dhcp-option=option6:dns-server,[::]
enable-ra

But when i ping6 some ipv6 addr i get error connect: Invalid argument

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Albert ARIBAUD

Le 01/04/2014 08:54, Vasiliy Tolstov a écrit :

Hi all. I'm try to use ipv6 slaac addresses and get global routing in
my simple network.
What i need to specify in dnsmasq.conf to provide global prefix to nodes?

Now i write
dhcp-range=::1,slaac,5m
dhcp-option=option6:dns-server,[::]
enable-ra

But when i ping6 some ipv6 addr i get error connect: Invalid argument


Hi Vasiliy,

What is the *exact* command that you used to ping6? If you don't want to 
disclose the actual target, use e.g. albert.aribaud.net, which should 
resolve in IPv6 and answer (reasonable) IPv6 pings.


Also, did you have a look at your router's and client's DHCP, network 
and/or system logs?


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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2014-04-01 11:12 GMT+04:00 Albert ARIBAUD albert.arib...@free.fr:
 Hi Vasiliy,

 What is the *exact* command that you used to ping6? If you don't want to
 disclose the actual target, use e.g. albert.aribaud.net, which should
 resolve in IPv6 and answer (reasonable) IPv6 pings.

 Also, did you have a look at your router's and client's DHCP, network and/or
 system logs?

 Amicalement,


I don't have external ipv6 and cant check ping for external address.
as i see ip -6 r s i have only link local address with /64 and not
global. And i don't have dhcp and want to use it. I want use only
slaac and radv to get all connected.

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2014-04-01 11:26 GMT+04:00 Albert ARIBAUD albert.arib...@free.fr:
 Ok, then, did you have a look at your router's and client's DHCP, network
 and/or system logs?


why i need dhcp logs? i don't use it. all that i have - dnsmasq with
radv enabled and nodes with slaac configured addresses.

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Albert ARIBAUD

Le 01/04/2014 09:38, Vasiliy Tolstov a écrit :

2014-04-01 11:26 GMT+04:00 Albert ARIBAUD albert.arib...@free.fr:

Ok, then, did you have a look at your router's and client's DHCP, network
and/or system logs?



why i need dhcp logs? i don't use it. all that i have - dnsmasq with
radv enabled and nodes with slaac configured addresses.


DHCP and/*OR* network and/*OR* system logs... :)

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] ipv6 slaac with global prefixes

2014-04-01 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2014-04-01 12:14 GMT+04:00 Albert ARIBAUD albert.arib...@free.fr:
 DHCP and/*OR* network and/*OR* system logs... :)


Nothing printed =). Sorry for noise. I'm switch to radv via bird
routing daemon =).

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:08:44PM -0400, Alex Xu wrote:
 On 25/03/14 07:03 PM, sven falempin wrote:
  my concern of nettle vs openssl is the amount of review and 
  testing nettle did get compared to something more widely(!)
  used
 
 something being used a lot != something being good

Absolutely true, but in the context of open source software, 
especially cryptographic software, more use also tends to mean
more code review.

I'm not really qualified to judge here what is best; I can only
point out what I, as a user, think about it. I'll trust Simon's 
judgment, but I hope he has considered these concerns.
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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:08:44PM -0400, Alex Xu wrote:
 On 25/03/14 07:03 PM, sven falempin wrote:
  my concern of nettle vs openssl is the amount of review and
  testing nettle did get compared to something more widely(!)
  used

 something being used a lot != something being good

 Absolutely true, but in the context of open source software,
 especially cryptographic software, more use also tends to mean
 more code review.

 I'm not really qualified to judge here what is best; I can only
 point out what I, as a user, think about it. I'll trust Simon's
 judgment, but I hope he has considered these concerns.

I have not been tracking this conversation closely, but my own
take on matters is that I'm opposed to a monoculture of anything...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-29/feature-banana/4922208

And thus I enthusiastically support other OSes than linux, other
dns servers besides bind, and other crypto libraries besides openssl.

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread Brad Smith

On 01/04/14 1:45 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:08:44PM -0400, Alex Xu wrote:

On 25/03/14 07:03 PM, sven falempin wrote:

my concern of nettle vs openssl is the amount of review and
testing nettle did get compared to something more widely(!)
used


something being used a lot != something being good


Absolutely true, but in the context of open source software,
especially cryptographic software, more use also tends to mean
more code review.

I'm not really qualified to judge here what is best; I can only
point out what I, as a user, think about it. I'll trust Simon's
judgment, but I hope he has considered these concerns.


I have not been tracking this conversation closely, but my own
take on matters is that I'm opposed to a monoculture of anything...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-29/feature-banana/4922208

And thus I enthusiastically support other OSes than linux, other
dns servers besides bind, and other crypto libraries besides openssl.


I have no problem with not having a monoculture. But provide an
option to support more than one crypto library. Don't assume what
is good for OpenWRT and other embedded OS's is good for everyone
else. That's making a really poor assumption.


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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:54 PM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

 a



I can't speak to an actual code audit, but nettle isn't some third-rate
clone. It's a mature, actively developed and (importantly) thoroughly
documented project.

If I were to undertake such an audit however, I would surely prefer to have
to audit nettle rather than OpenSSL, as unlike the latter, nettle's code is
quite readable and even easy on the eyes.

Not to mention that there's much less code to begin with, as the library
simply doesn't try to do everything OpenSSL does. From their
introduction[1]:

Nettle tries to avoid this problem by doing one thing, the low-level
crypto stuff, and providing a *simple* but general interface to it. In
particular, Nettle doesn't do algorithm selection. It doesn't do memory
allocation. It doesn't do any I/O.

Maybe OpenSSL is the right choice anyway, I don't know. But, I thought
someone should speak up for nettle :)

-nd.

[1] - http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/nettle/nettle.html#Introduction
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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread Nathan Dorfman
With such superior understanding, shouldn't you be adding OpenSSL support
to dnsmasq yourself? That way you can deal with their byzantine API and the
resulting bugs, and Simon can instead do something actually worthwhile.



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Brad Smith b...@comstyle.com wrote:

 On 01/04/14 2:02 PM, Nathan Dorfman wrote:

 Maybe OpenSSL is the right choice anyway, I don't know. But, I thought
 someone should speak up for nettle :)


 speaking up for nettle means nothing when you don't understand the
 issue at hand.


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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 10:45:44AM -0700, Dave Taht wrote:
 And thus I enthusiastically support other OSes than linux,
 other dns servers besides bind, and other crypto libraries
 besides openssl.

One named to rule them all
One named to find them
One named to bring them all
And in the darkness BIND them.

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Re: [Dnsmasq-discuss] Does DNSSEC require nettle and gmp, or nettle with gmp?

2014-04-01 Thread Simon Kelley
On 01/04/14 19:14, Nathan Dorfman wrote:
 With such superior understanding, shouldn't you be adding OpenSSL support
 to dnsmasq yourself? That way you can deal with their byzantine API and the
 resulting bugs, and Simon can instead do something actually worthwhile.
 
 
But don't do that before the licensing issue has been resolved. The
motive for moving from openSSL to (not openSSL) was largely about
incompatible licenses. Delving into the git repo and finding the openSSL
adapter code is the least of the problems.

... and if anyone is volunteering to do a code audit, can I ask they
consider auditing the dnsmasq DNSSEC code, which is orders of magnitude
less mature than either openSSL _or_ Nettle? Let's get our priorities
right here.


Simon.


 
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Brad Smith b...@comstyle.com wrote:
 
 On 01/04/14 2:02 PM, Nathan Dorfman wrote:

 Maybe OpenSSL is the right choice anyway, I don't know. But, I thought
 someone should speak up for nettle :)


 speaking up for nettle means nothing when you don't understand the
 issue at hand.


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