Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to spell "CustomShape"

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Regina,

Taking the sentence you gave as the first example " Many Custom Shapes have
handles to alter the geometry".

I do not see any problem if the term "custom shapes" is translated in this
context. Actually, I think that keeping it in English only will look weird
when the rest of the sentence is translated. Also, it might be better to
use small letters as in "custom shapes".

For example, in pt-BR (translating "custom shapes"):
Muitas formas personalizadas possuem alças para alterar a geometria.

The example above looks better to me than (using "Custom Shapes"
capitalizing first letters):
Muitas Custom Shapes possuem alças para alterar a geometria.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 6:35 PM Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> Rafael Lima schrieb am 02.06.2022 um 19:56:
> > Hi Regina,
> >
> > In ODF 1.3 part 3, section 10.6 the term "Custom Shapes" is used to
> > describe the element . So I believe you could use
> > "Custom Shape(s)" to write this guide. It would be suitable from the
> > standpoint of developers.
>
> So you mean a sentence like the following would be OK?
> Many Custom Shapes have handles to alter the geometry.
>
> Would it be clear that the part "Custom Shapes" should not be translated?
>
> Using "custom shape" with lower case would surely be translated to
> "forme personnalisée" (fr) or "benutzerdefinierte Form" (de), for example.
>
> Or do you have an idea how to write something similar to
> "Fontwork-shape" or "Isosceles Triangle"-shape?
> Or so ?
> Many "Custom Shape"-shapes have handles to alter the geometry.
>
> Or using a style to make clear that "custom shape" is a technical term?
> Italic for example? 'Small capitals' seem to be not available in the Wiki.
>
> Kind regards,
> Regina
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rafael Lima
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 11:52 AM Regina Henschel  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm going to write a Wiki page about CustomShapes addressed to
> >> developers. Text therein will be for example:
> >>
> >> 1 What is “CustomShape”?
> >> “CustomShape” is a technical term and does not mean “made by the user”.
> >> But “CustomShape” is the umbrella term for those shapes, which have an
> >> enhanced geometry. These shapes are written as element
> >>  in the file markup in ODF format.
> >> Many of these shapes have handles and shape specific glue points. For
> >> all of these shapes and only for them the tool “Toggle Extrusion” is
> >> active in the UI. Looking at it allows to quickly distinguish a
> >> CustomShape from other kind of shapes.
> >>
> >>
> >> We have already page
> >>
> >>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Remarks_on_Fontwork_and_TextWarp
> >> There the spelling "custom-shapes" is used.
> >>
> >>
> >> The Draw guide has "custom shape" in chapter "Text callout".
> >>
> >> In the style dialog in the UI we have on tab 'text' the wording "Custom
> >> Shape Text".
> >>
> >>
> >> I am looking for a spelling that makes clear, that it is a technical
> >> term for a kind of shapes and that "custom" in this context has nothing
> >> to do with "user".
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Regina
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to spell "CustomShape"

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Regina,

In ODF 1.3 part 3, section 10.6 the term "Custom Shapes" is used to
describe the element . So I believe you could use
"Custom Shape(s)" to write this guide. It would be suitable from the
standpoint of developers.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 11:52 AM Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to write a Wiki page about CustomShapes addressed to
> developers. Text therein will be for example:
>
> 1 What is “CustomShape”?
> “CustomShape” is a technical term and does not mean “made by the user”.
> But “CustomShape” is the umbrella term for those shapes, which have an
> enhanced geometry. These shapes are written as element
>  in the file markup in ODF format.
> Many of these shapes have handles and shape specific glue points. For
> all of these shapes and only for them the tool “Toggle Extrusion” is
> active in the UI. Looking at it allows to quickly distinguish a
> CustomShape from other kind of shapes.
>
>
> We have already page
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Remarks_on_Fontwork_and_TextWarp
> There the spelling "custom-shapes" is used.
>
>
> The Draw guide has "custom shape" in chapter "Text callout".
>
> In the style dialog in the UI we have on tab 'text' the wording "Custom
> Shape Text".
>
>
> I am looking for a spelling that makes clear, that it is a technical
> term for a kind of shapes and that "custom" in this context has nothing
> to do with "user".
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Issue concerning shortcuts in MacOS

[Rafael Lima]

Hello everyone,

We received the following bug report in Bugzilla:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146789

Basically the user mentioned an incorrect behavior of shortcuts in MacOS. I
do not have a Mac to confirm this, but if this issue is confirmed, the
Getting Started Guide 7.3 could receive more updates concerning shortcuts
on MacOS.

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide 7.2 ready for review

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

I finished reviewing the Math Guide 7.2. The reviewed file is in the WIP
folder.

I left a few comments and suggestions. Feel free to include them in the
final version of the book.

Rafael Lima

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:25 PM Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> I am checking out the Math Guide 7.2 for a review. I expect to finish it
> by the end of this week.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rafael Lima
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:06 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
>> I have updated the Math Guide to v7.2. Major changes have been
>> tracked. I also added captions to the tables in Appendix A that did
>> not already have them, and I made some minor wording changes in the
>> chapter, taking some from the Getting Started chapter and adding some
>> others, including improving some of the x-refs to be more specific
>> than they were. I did not track all of those changes; sorry.
>>
>> If someone could review what I have done, we should be able to publish
>> this small book soon.
>>
>> The file is in the Math Guide 7.2 Work in Progress folder on NextCloud.
>>
>> Jean
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide 7.2 ready for review

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am checking out the Math Guide 7.2 for a review. I expect to finish it by
the end of this week.

Regards,

Rafael Lima

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 11:06 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I have updated the Math Guide to v7.2. Major changes have been
> tracked. I also added captions to the tables in Appendix A that did
> not already have them, and I made some minor wording changes in the
> chapter, taking some from the Getting Started chapter and adding some
> others, including improving some of the x-refs to be more specific
> than they were. I did not track all of those changes; sorry.
>
> If someone could review what I have done, we should be able to publish
> this small book soon.
>
> The file is in the Math Guide 7.2 Work in Progress folder on NextCloud.
>
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release Notes 7.3 wiki page errors

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Martin and Ilmari,

Yesterday I edited the Release Notes for LO 7.3 and accidentally duplicated
entry 263. This was the only one I edited and now it is fixed.

I did not check if there are any other duplicate IDs though.

Rafael


On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 8:32 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

> Helo, Ilmari,
>
> I did not mess with translation markes, I do not know who did it.
> I just found that the page needs to be checked for translation since it had
> updates and the wiki system returned an error.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> V V tor., 23. nov. 2021 ob 07:05 je oseba Ilmari Lauhakangas <
> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> napisala:
>
> > On 22.11.2021 22.54, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > just want to report, the wiki page
> > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.3
> > > has errors (the name of the translation unit 263 has several instances)
> > and
> > > thus cannot be marked for translation in the latest version.
> > >
> > > Please fix this and mark the latest version available for translation.
> >
> > This has been fixed. When editing the wiki, translation markers should
> > not be manually added as they are created automatically, when you mark a
> > page for translation. They can be deleted alongside content that you
> > remove.
> >
> > Ilmari
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release Notes 7.3 wiki page errors

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Martin,

I fixed the duplicate occurrence of ID 263.

Rafael


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> Hello,
>
> just want to report, the wiki page
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.3
> has errors (the name of the translation unit 263 has several instances) and
> thus cannot be marked for translation in the latest version.
>
> Please fix this and mark the latest version available for translation.
>
> Lp, m.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Base Guide

[Rafael Lima]

Hi everyone!

An update to the Base Guide is surely needed. You can count on me for
reviewing chapters.

Rafael


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:46 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I agree, and I suggest 7.2. It would be nice to have a complete set of
> guides branded for the same release. If Peter does Draw and Steve does Base
> and someone (who?) does Math, we could have a full set for 7.2.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 20:13 Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>
> wrote:
>
> > HI
> >  From a standpoint of keeping our guides in synch with the software
> > version and branding, I think it is advisable to publish a 7.x release
> > of the Base Guide, even with minor feature updates.
> >
> > Regards
> > Olivier
> >
> > Em 22/11/2021 06:22, Robert Großkopf escreveu:
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > there has nothing been changed in Base in LO 7.*. Only thing which
> > > should be part of the description: Since LO 6.4.3 Firebird has been set
> > > back to experimental feartures. So you could only create a new Firebird
> > > dabase when "experimental features" are choosen.
> > >
> > > Don't know the whole content of the Guide but could be the feature
> "Auto
> > > Grow" in reports, introduced since LO 6.4, is also missing.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide for 7.x?

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

I took a look at the release notes and a few minor changes were made to LO
Math since 7.0.
- 7.1: Math has now a full support of HTML colors
- 7.2: It's now possible to scale the code input box.
- 7.3: Nothing so far

If you can do the initial updating of the chapters, I'll be happy to review
them.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:41 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> Is anyone updating the Math Guide for 7.x? The last time I looked at a
> published copy, I noticed some formatting problems in some of the tables
> that I’d  be happy to fix before a new edition is published, if someone
> else doesn’t fix them first.
>
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help string not caseinlined

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Martin!

I'll fix it on master.

Rafael

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 1:15 PM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

> Just to add - I refer to master.
>
> Another not caseinlined help string, in this case for macOS shortcuts:
> kdjWP
> Returns the address of the smallest area that contains the specified range
> so that the area is surrounded by empty cells or sheet edges. This is
> equivalent to applying the Ctrl + * shortcut to the
> given range.
>
> Please notify the author of the help text so that she/he does not repeat
> the error on other strings.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> V V sob., 6. nov. 2021 ob 13:17 je oseba Martin Srebotnjak <
> mi...@filmsi.net>
> napisala:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > the help string JT47J in calc/01.po is not properly caseinline-d:
> > This is an experimental feature and is disabled by default. To enable it,
> > go to Tools - Options - Advanced  and check the
> option
> > Enable experimental features (may be unstable).
> >
> > It should have " > select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
> > PreferencesTools -
> > Options –
> %PRODUCTNAME
> > – Advanced" instead of "Tools - Options -
> > Advanced".
> >
> > It also includes double space.
> >
> > Lp, m.
> >
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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7212 / Checking out CG7216

[Rafael Lima]

Hi all!

I finished the first review of CG7212 on Macros. The file is in the WIP
folder.

Steve, I made a few changes and suggestions in the file. Most notably, I
formatted the Basic code using Andrew Pitonyak's code formatter extension,
which was also used in the GS guide. So now both chapters have the same
code formatting.

I am now checking out CG7216 for a first review.

Regards,
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[libreoffice-documentation] First Review of CG7213 / Checking out CG7212

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Hi Team!

I have finished my first review of CG7213. The file is in the WIP folder.

As usual, I made a few comments and added a few things to the file. Steve,
feel free to accept them in the final edit.

I am now checking out CG7212 to give it a first review.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapters 6 and 13

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Hi Team!

I have finished reviewing Chapter 6 of the Calc guide. It is in the WIP
folder.

Steve, I left a few comments in the file for you to consider.

I am now checking out Chapter 13 "Calc as a Database" for a first review.

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 6

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Steve,

Actually I was a bit confused when I looked at the "Archive" folder and
found the file "CG7202-EnterEditFormatData_SF_OH07Sep2021.odt" which
included the OH initials.

However, the "Work in Progress" only had the
"CG7202-EnterEditFormatData_SF_04Sep2021.odt" file. So I figured maybe
Olivier had done some changes but for some reason his file was only in the
Archive.

But now I guess I should have only considered the file in the WIP folder as
the starting point for the review.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 3:11 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> Many thanks for the review and helpful comments.
>
> I noticed that Olivier’s initials were included in the name of the file
> that you returned – I wasn’t aware that he was helping with the review.
> I’ve assumed the file name was in error but please advise if his name
> needs to be added to the list of contributors for this update.
>
> I have modified the document to (hopefully) address all your comments.
> I’ve accepted the changes and used today’s date in the name of the
> updated file, which is in the Work In Progress folder and ready for
> second review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 18/10/2021 19:09, Rafael Lima wrote:
> > Hi Team!
> >
> > I am writing to let you know that I have finished reviewing Chapter 2.
> > Steve, you'll find a few comments with my suggestions in the file. Feel
> > free to implement them in the final edit of the chapter.
> >
> > I am now checking out Chapter 6 for review. I expect to return it on Oct
> 22.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Prof. Dr. Rafael Henrique Palma Lima
> > Departamento de Engenharia de Produção
> > Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná (UTFPR)
> > Câmpus de Londrina
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Improper use of embedvars in online help content

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Martin,

It seems you're right... all the strings I checked so far haven't still
been corrected on master.

Tomorrow I'll publish the fix for the strings you mentioned.

Regards
Rafael

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 1:36 PM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

> Hi, Olivier,
>
> as I wrote, these errors are in the master, they were on October 15, four
> days ago (that's the po files I used for my analysis).
>
> The ones you fixed are other errors of the same kind that I reported
> earlied (and then you asked me if I find any more to report here).
>
> So - all today reported ones are in the master unless someone changed
> master in the last few days.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> V V tor., 19. okt. 2021 ob 16:14 je oseba Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> napisala:
>
> > Hi Rafael
> >
> > Some of these embed were already fixed 2 weeks ago
> >
> >
> >
> https://git.libreoffice.org/help/+/336a1a866e9b84a929e9d4403564e37947a0eba3%5E%21/
> >
> > regards
> > Olivier
> >
> > Em 19/10/2021 10:46, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> > > Hi Martin,
> > >
> > > I'll take care of fixing these issues on master.
> > >
> > > I was responsible for introducing some of these errors... Now I see
> that
> > > this is troublesome for translators and future help pages won't have
> > these
> > > embedvars.
> > >
> > > Let me know whenever you come across issues like these.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rafael Lima
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:34 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>   Hello,
> > >>
> > >> for some time now I notice that help writers keep using embedvars to
> > >> simplify their work. These not only make help unreadable for
> localizers
> > >> (and thus prone to errors in localization), but introduce errors, as
> the
> > >> use of embedvars in sentences is not allowed for languages with cases
> > (like
> > >> Slavic languages).
> > >>
> > >> I urge online help writers not to use embedvars, even if that means
> some
> > >> more spelling out of function and command names. Also, please do
> include
> > >> this warning to any wiki or other documentation for future help
> > >> contributors, *in bold*.
> > >>
> > >> I collected a list of all errors I have found so far (it refers to
> > master
> > >> as of October 15). My list is based on an assumption (which might not
> be
> > >> correct) that it is OK when an embedded link is used standalone, as in
> > >> /helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po:
> > >> #. LDkTk
> > >> msgid " > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_timer.xhp#TimerService\"/>"
> > >> But the assumption might be wrong for some languages and even mine,
> > since
> > >> we are not aware what the referenced string spells out like – this
> form
> > >> requires nominative case, but maybe the original string is not in
> > >> nominative form ... There are plenty of those strings as well,
> sometimes
> > >> appearing as the last sentence in a help file string, as a reference
> at
> > the
> > >> end of the help content paragraph.
> > >>
> > >> The list includes several occurrences where embedvars are either at
> the
> > >> start or end of the string, but do not use a space before/after the
> > rest of
> > >> the strings (I added the red comment note to those).
> > >>
> > >> Whoever will be fixing these errors in master, please contact the
> > original
> > >> authors of the erroneous strings to warn them about these errors, so
> > they
> > >> stop doing it.
> > >>
> > >> Lp, m.
> > >>
> > >> ***
> > >>
> > >> */helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared/03.po*
> > >>
> > >> #. YwSXj#: lib_ScriptForge.xhpmsgctxt
> > >> """lib_ScriptForge.xhp\n""par_id1001623412767893\n""help.text"msgid
> > >> "To learn more about how to create and execute Python scripts using
> > >> the ScriptForge library, read the  > >> href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_intro.xhp#title\"/> help page."
> > >> #. ZzngK#: sf_intro.xhpmsgctxt
> > >> """sf_intro.xhp\n""par_id31623411828158\n""help.text"msgid "Visit
> > >> 
>

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Improper use of embedvars in online help content

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Martin,

I'll take care of fixing these issues on master.

I was responsible for introducing some of these errors... Now I see that
this is troublesome for translators and future help pages won't have these
embedvars.

Let me know whenever you come across issues like these.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:34 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> for some time now I notice that help writers keep using embedvars to
> simplify their work. These not only make help unreadable for localizers
> (and thus prone to errors in localization), but introduce errors, as the
> use of embedvars in sentences is not allowed for languages with cases (like
> Slavic languages).
>
> I urge online help writers not to use embedvars, even if that means some
> more spelling out of function and command names. Also, please do include
> this warning to any wiki or other documentation for future help
> contributors, *in bold*.
>
> I collected a list of all errors I have found so far (it refers to master
> as of October 15). My list is based on an assumption (which might not be
> correct) that it is OK when an embedded link is used standalone, as in
> /helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po:
> #. LDkTk
> msgid " href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_timer.xhp#TimerService\"/>"
> But the assumption might be wrong for some languages and even mine, since
> we are not aware what the referenced string spells out like – this form
> requires nominative case, but maybe the original string is not in
> nominative form ... There are plenty of those strings as well, sometimes
> appearing as the last sentence in a help file string, as a reference at the
> end of the help content paragraph.
>
> The list includes several occurrences where embedvars are either at the
> start or end of the string, but do not use a space before/after the rest of
> the strings (I added the red comment note to those).
>
> Whoever will be fixing these errors in master, please contact the original
> authors of the erroneous strings to warn them about these errors, so they
> stop doing it.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> ***
>
> */helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared/03.po*
>
> #. YwSXj#: lib_ScriptForge.xhpmsgctxt
> """lib_ScriptForge.xhp\n""par_id1001623412767893\n""help.text"msgid
> "To learn more about how to create and execute Python scripts using
> the ScriptForge library, read the  href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_intro.xhp#title\"/> help page."
> #. ZzngK#: sf_intro.xhpmsgctxt
> """sf_intro.xhp\n""par_id31623411828158\n""help.text"msgid "Visit
> 
> for more information on Python scripting using %PRODUCTNAME."
> #. CHr5n#: sf_session.xhpmsgctxt
> """sf_session.xhp\n""par_id751626817335715\n""help.text"msgid "Read
> the help page  href=\"text/sbasic/python/python_locations.xhp#pythonlocations1\"/> to
> learn more about where Python scripts can be stored."
> */helpcontent2/source/text/sbasic/shared.po*#. CWMJG#:
> 03030303.xhpmsgctxt
> """03030303.xhp\n""par_id491610993401822\n""help.text"msgid "The
> Timer function measures time in seconds. To measure
> time in milliseconds use the  href=\"text/sbasic/shared/03/sf_timer.xhp#TimerService\"/>."
> #. Yy5Eh#: 03120102.xhpmsgctxt
> """03120102.xhp\n""par_id111552916434071\n""help.text"msgid " href=\"text/sbasic/shared/0003.xhp#err6\"/>, when VBA
> compatibility mode is enabled and expression is greater than 255."
> */helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/01.po*#. 2Ditv#:
> func_numbervalue.xhpmsgctxt
> """func_numbervalue.xhp\n""par_id351625601754290\n""help.text"msgid
> "Refer to the  href=\"text/shared/01/05020300.xhp#NumbersLink\"/> help page to learn
> how to change the format of numbers in a cell."
> */helpcontent2/source/text/scalc/guide.po*#. FrQEr#:
> numbers_text.xhpmsgctxt
> """numbers_text.xhp\n""par_id111567772433803\n""help.text"msgid "The
> text to number conversion can be customized in the  href=\"text/shared/optionen/detailedcalculation.xhp#detailed_heading\"
> markup=\"ignore\"/> option."
> #. XvTTj#: remove_duplicates.xhpmsgctxt
> """remove_duplicates.xhp\n""par_id31630021517873\n""help.text"msgid
> "Go to Data - More Filters - Standard Filter.
> This opens the  href=\"text/shared/02/12090100.xhp#StandardFilter_h1\"/> dialog."
> #. dzAEu#: table_cellmerge.xhpmsgctxt

[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 6

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team!

I am writing to let you know that I have finished reviewing Chapter 2.
Steve, you'll find a few comments with my suggestions in the file. Feel
free to implement them in the final edit of the chapter.

I am now checking out Chapter 6 for review. I expect to return it on Oct 22.

Regards,

Prof. Dr. Rafael Henrique Palma Lima
Departamento de Engenharia de Produção
Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná (UTFPR)
Câmpus de Londrina

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 7.2 - Chapter 2

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am checking out Chapter 2 (Enter, Edit, and Format Data) of the Calc
Guide 7.2 for review. I expect to have it returned on Monday (Oct 18).

Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7213-Macros - question

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I have updated the contents of Chapter 13 "Getting Started with Macros" of
the GS guide. Next is a summary of the changes:
1) I updated all screenshots
2) New topic "UNO Object Inspector"
3) New topic to give an example of macro for Calc
4) New topic about the ScriptForge library
5) Minor changes throughout the text

The new file is in the WIP folder and is named
GS7213-GettingStartedWithMacros_01_JHW_RL_20210821.odt.

Cheers,
Rafael Lima


On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:17 AM Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> I checked out the chapter on Macros and updated the status spreadsheet. I
> expect to return it by Aug 20.
>
> Rafael
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:25 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
>> Rafael,
>> Unless someone else is available earlier, next week is okay. Thank you!
>> Jean
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 23:21 Rafael Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Jean,
>> >
>> > I volunteer to update the chapter on Macros. However, I'll only be able
>> to
>> > do it next week. Is that okay?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rafael Lima
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:53 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Olivier or someone,
>> > > In the status spreadsheet for GS7.2, there is a note for the Macros
>> > > chapter: "need to add topic for Development tools (OH)".
>> > > Can you or someone point me to the info that should be included, or
>> > > will someone add it to the chapter?
>> > > Thanks.
>> > > Jean
>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7213-Macros - question

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

I volunteer to update the chapter on Macros. However, I'll only be able to
do it next week. Is that okay?

Cheers,
Rafael Lima

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:53 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> Olivier or someone,
> In the status spreadsheet for GS7.2, there is a note for the Macros
> chapter: "need to add topic for Development tools (OH)".
> Can you or someone point me to the info that should be included, or
> will someone add it to the chapter?
> Thanks.
> Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides Bullet List cleanup

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier,

The following macro will iterate over all paragraphs and remove all of the
items that contain empty strings (both in numbered and bulleted lists).

Sub RemoveEmptyItems
 Dim oEnum, oPar
 oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.CreateEnumeration()
 Do While oEnum.HasMoreElements()
  oPar = oEnum.NextElement()
  nsName = oPar.NumberingStyleName
  If nsName <> "" Then
   parText = oPar.GetString()
   If parText = "" Then
'This is reached if the list has an entry that is empty
ThisComponent.Text.RemoveTextContent(oPar)
   End If
  End If
 Loop
End Sub


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hi...
>
> The situation is illustrated in the document below
>
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8YceNLp9Jy43by3
>
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 14/07/2021 12:19, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am looking to some clue/Basic code to detect and correct paragraphs
> > with bullet lists which have an extra, overlaying bullet applied.
> >
> > In all guides, we use Paragraph styles List 1 and List 2  which are
> > connected to list styles Bullet * and Bullet - respectively.
> >
> > However in many lists in the Guides there are often another bullet (* or
> > -) over the List 1 or 2 paragraph bullet. There no visual indication
> > when editing the chapters, and no problem in printing or exporting to
> > PDF. But when changing some para style attribute, the extra bullet pops.
> >
> > The current trick I use is to select the set of bullet list paragraphs,
> > apply temporary the BodyText style (then the extra bullet shows), remove
> > the extra bullet and re-apply the para list style. That must be done in
> > every list in the text which is rather exhausting.
> >
> > if no extra bullet pops, then I press Ctrl+Z to undo the temporary
> change.
> >
> > Has anybody a couple of Basic lines to detect and remove the extra
> > bullet? At least I'd like to know how to catch and delete this extra
> > bullet.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS72013 - Macros

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier,

I volunteer to write the help page about the new Development Tools feature.
After I finish the page, I'll update the chapter on Macros in the GS guide.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:21 AM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> LO 7.2 introduced a new tool related to macros at "Tools - Development
> tools".
>
> No help pages yet written but some pointers are available at
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.2#Core_.2F_General
>
> Although the topic is very technical, it worth to introduce it in the
> Guide for further reading.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc's ENCODEURL, FILTERXML and WEBSERVICE functions

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Steve,

I agree with you. There's no rush to make a decision on this topic. It'll
be a great topic for discussion in the upcoming meeting.

However I haven't been able to attend our Thursdays meetings due to other
appointments I have at work. Hope I'll be able to attend the next one.

Cheers,
Rafael

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:58 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> With regards to differences between the Calc Functions Wiki and the
> corresponding Help pages...
>
> You are correct that there is currently a significant difference in the
> content of the help pages and the wiki pages for SOME of Calc's
> functions. We need to work out how the users can be made aware of the
> extra content on the wiki but I don't think there is a great rush to
> solve this particular issue. We should give possible solutions some
> proper thought before making any changes to the help; meanwhile we will
> continue to improve the 500+ wiki pages.
>
> Perhaps we could discuss at a future Documentation Team meeting? (After
> this week I expect to be able to attend our Thursday evening meetings a
> little more frequently).
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 08/06/2021 18:43, Rafael Lima wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have just read the three wiki pages you mentioned and I could not find
> > any issues with them. IMO they're very thorough and well written.
> >
> > In the WEBSERVICE page, section "Accessing non-XML data", I would add the
> > following:
> >
> > --
> > The WEBSERVICE function returns the raw result from an HTTP/ HTTPS
> request.
> > Hence, if the URI address corresponds to any type of text content (e.g.
> > CSV, XML, TXT, MD, etc), the raw content will be returned and stored in
> the
> > cell.
> > The example below will return the raw contents of the file README.md
> stored
> > in the given URI.
> > =WEBSERVICE("https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/download/help/README.md;)
> > --
> >
> > The wiki pages for FILTERXML and ENCODEURL are perfect!
> >
> > BTW, there's a huge difference between the Help contents and the wiki
> > (which is far more complete) and I fear that some users may not find all
> > the contents they look for in the help pages. Do you think we could add
> > links in the help pages referencing the corresponding wiki pages?
> >
> > For example:
> > To learn more refer to the WEBSERVICE wiki page. (with a link to the wiki
> > pages)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rafael Lima
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:11 PM Steve Fanning <
> stevefann...@libreoffice.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Please could somebody with technical knowledge of these three functions
> >> help me?
> >>
> >> I have been upgrading their descriptions in the Calc Functions Wiki area
> >> (
> >>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ENCODEURL
> ,
> >>
> >>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/FILTERXML
> >> and
> >>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/WEBSERVICE
> >> ).
> >>
> >> I am not an expert on these functions but have extended the descriptions
> >> beyond the explanations given in the Help by a combination of code
> >> inspection and experimentation.
> >>
> >> Would it be possible for somebody who has expertise in this area to
> >> review these three wiki pages from a technical perspective? Is what I
> >> have written technically correct? Have I missed anything that might be
> >> significant to a user who is looking for more background? (Please don't
> >> think I'm looking for somebody to find typos - there may be some, but we
> >> can resolve those without wasting any of a developer's valuable time!)
> >>
> >> On a specific point, do we need to declare the versions of XML and XPath
> >> that are relevant for FILTERXML? If so, can somebody confirm what they
> are?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Steve Fanning (LibreOffice Documentation Team)
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc's ENCODEURL, FILTERXML and WEBSERVICE functions

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Steve,

I have just read the three wiki pages you mentioned and I could not find
any issues with them. IMO they're very thorough and well written.

In the WEBSERVICE page, section "Accessing non-XML data", I would add the
following:

--
The WEBSERVICE function returns the raw result from an HTTP/ HTTPS request.
Hence, if the URI address corresponds to any type of text content (e.g.
CSV, XML, TXT, MD, etc), the raw content will be returned and stored in the
cell.
The example below will return the raw contents of the file README.md stored
in the given URI.
=WEBSERVICE("https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/download/help/README.md;)
--

The wiki pages for FILTERXML and ENCODEURL are perfect!

BTW, there's a huge difference between the Help contents and the wiki
(which is far more complete) and I fear that some users may not find all
the contents they look for in the help pages. Do you think we could add
links in the help pages referencing the corresponding wiki pages?

For example:
To learn more refer to the WEBSERVICE wiki page. (with a link to the wiki
pages)

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:11 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Please could somebody with technical knowledge of these three functions
> help me?
>
> I have been upgrading their descriptions in the Calc Functions Wiki area
> (
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ENCODEURL,
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/FILTERXML
> and
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/WEBSERVICE
> ).
>
> I am not an expert on these functions but have extended the descriptions
> beyond the explanations given in the Help by a combination of code
> inspection and experimentation.
>
> Would it be possible for somebody who has expertise in this area to
> review these three wiki pages from a technical perspective? Is what I
> have written technically correct? Have I missed anything that might be
> significant to a user who is looking for more background? (Please don't
> think I'm looking for somebody to find typos - there may be some, but we
> can resolve those without wasting any of a developer's valuable time!)
>
> On a specific point, do we need to declare the versions of XML and XPath
> that are relevant for FILTERXML? If so, can somebody confirm what they are?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Fanning (LibreOffice Documentation Team)
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about the Fontwork toolbar documentation

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Regina,

Thanks for your prompt response.

I agree with you that this feature shouldn't be hidden from users in LO
Impress/Draw. I'll open a bug report suggesting to enable it by default in
the Format Menu.

I also agree that it should have a different name: "Text along path" seems
a good idea.

If it becomes enabled by default, then the Draw Guide needs to be updated
to describe this feature.

Kind regards,
Rafael

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:18 PM Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> Rafael Lima schrieb am 12.05.2021 um 16:29:
> [..]
> > So my question is: Is there a reason for this feature to have been
> removed
> > from the default Menubar in Impress and Draw?
>
> As far as I remember it was removed from the Format menu in OOo2, when
> the Fontwork Gallery has been introduced.
>
>   This feature is especially
> > useful in presentations and drawings, so I don't see why to not have this
> > feature in Impress/Draw and add a note to the help page about it.
>
> It is especially useful to label connectors.
>
> >
> > I also noticed that the Draw Guide (version 6.4) and the Writer Guide
> (7.1)
> > focus mainly on the Fontwork gallery and do not describe the features in
> > the aforementioned help page.
>
> For a Writer Guide it is not really needed, but the Draw Guide should
> describe it.
>
> >
> > I would appreciate it if anyone could provide some background on why
> these
> > decisions were made, so I can update the help pages.
>
> I don't know, why this was done, and I see no good reason to make is so
> hard for the user to use it. I think the feature should be available in
> a menu in Draw/Impress.
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94535
>
> Only the name "Fontwork" is not suitable for the UI, because it is
> totally different from the "Fontwork Gallery". It would be better to use
> a name known from other applications, like "Text along path" or "Text on
> a path". "Other applications" are e.g. Inkscape, Gimp, Illustrator,
> CorelDraw.
>
> The feature is not available in MS Office. Perhaps Sun has therefore
> hidden it?
> And the feature is only usable in "extended" file format. But that is no
> reason to hide it. We have a lot of features, which are only usable in
> "extended" file format.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Question about the Fontwork toolbar documentation

[Rafael Lima]

Hi all!

I am working on a Documentation bug about the Fontwork help page.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139469

Then I noticed that the Format - Text Box and Shape - Fontwork menu only
exists by default in Writer.
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/shared/01/0528.html

However, on Impress and Draw, this option is not present in the menu. And
the help page clearly states that if the user wants to use it, he/she needs
to go to Options > Customize and manually insert it in the menu.
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/shared/01/0528.html?=SHARED

So my question is: Is there a reason for this feature to have been removed
from the default Menubar in Impress and Draw? This feature is especially
useful in presentations and drawings, so I don't see why to not have this
feature in Impress/Draw and add a note to the help page about it.

I also noticed that the Draw Guide (version 6.4) and the Writer Guide (7.1)
focus mainly on the Fontwork gallery and do not describe the features in
the aforementioned help page.

I would appreciate it if anyone could provide some background on why these
decisions were made, so I can update the help pages.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Functions Wiki - CONVERT function

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Steve!

I read the CONVERT wiki page and I believe it is very well written and
complete.

I do not have knowledge about all the units of measurement covered by the
CONVERT function, but of all the ones I know, everything seems correct to
me.

I also read the current page in the Help
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/scalc/01/04060116.html?DbPAR=CALC#bm_id3148446

I think the help page can be improved. The main gaps are (i) the unit
symbols in the help page do not have names (as in the wiki) and (ii) the
examples in the wiki are more varied and could be added to the Help page.

Maybe you could open an enhancement request at Bugzilla to suggest the
contents from the wiki be incorporated in the Help page. I would volunteer
to do that.

Regards,
Rafael


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:59 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Over the last few days I have spent some time updating the description
> of Calc's CONVERT function on the Wiki
> (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/CONVERT
> ).
>
> I had no idea that the function was so wide-ranging and powerful!
>
> There is much information now available on the referenced wiki page and
> it would be great if somebody else could give it a quick review and
> advise if they spot any problems or have any suggestions. Can anybody
> spare the time?
>
> A note also for Olivier - having extracted the information from the code
> and from experimentation, I suspect that it might be a good idea to
> review the corresponding description in the Help (which I think has some
> gaps).
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
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Re: Spacing Guide release, was: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First review of CG7100-Preface and CG7101-Introduction

[Rafael Lima]

Hello everyone!

Here's my take on this subject.

I believe that when updating the guides to minor releases (7.1 to 7.4) we
should focus exclusively on the aspects listed in the Release Notes. Hence,
we should take the previously published version (say 7.0 now) and update
only chapters and sections that are directly related to something listed in
the release notes. If something was not mentioned in the release notes,
then it should remain unchanged.

If we follow this guideline, we can reuse previous chapters entirely. This
way, if only a single person reads a chapter and concludes that it has not
been affected by any changes in the release notes, then no further reviews
are necessary and no modifications are made to the chapter.

For chapters affected by the release notes, then I believe one person
updating it and a subsequent single review will suffice.

I think this is a great topic for this week's meeting.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 11:31 PM Felipe Viggiano 
wrote:

> Hello Olivier,
>
> Considering your arguments, we need, at least, to think about reducing the
> cycle review for minor releases reviews.
> Kees has a point about the few number of changes in the software to
> implement in the guides, and, in my opinion, giving the same treatment for
> major and minor releases is consuming most of the team's time.
> Maybe reducing the requisites for updating the guides in minor releases, we
> can use the time to work on some other projects.
>
> Is there any idea from the team to implement a reduced workflow for minor
> releases?
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
> Em seg., 15 de mar. de 2021 às 20:12, Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> escreveu:
>
> > Hi Team
> >
> > I strongly oppose to this approach.
> >
> > Catching up a full version demands a lot of effort and delays the
> > availability of the Guides much after the release of the software.
> >
> > We had a lot of work to bring our documentation from release 4.x to 5.x
> > and now 7.x . We had to skip some releases because we could not match
> > the release pace.
> >
> > Small updates and frequent publication (6 months) is, as you see, much
> > easier to track and provide a good doc for end users. Many chapter just
> > don't need changes and can be fully reused. Other chapters need in-depth
> > reviews.
> >
> > Imagine purchasing the latest proprietary software and get a 2y-old
> > manual in a promise that "will soon be available". Of course LibreOffice
> > is not a proprietary software and documentation is produced by
> > volunteers that have their own tempo.
> >
> > Software with no documentation is a lesser software. Doc and software
> > are components of a product offering.
> >
> > Producing a new book with small updates is easier, quicker and may not
> > require a full cycle review.
> >
> > My 2 cents
> >
> > Regards
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Em 14/03/2021 22:19, Felipe Viggiano escreveu:
> > > Hello Kees,
> > >
> > > I was just thinking about that either, perhaps we can focus the review
> on
> > > the major releases, such as LibreOffice 7, LibreOffice 8 and so on.
> >
> > --
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Call for ideas on Technical Writing

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

Development of the LibreOffice Base Guide 7 seems to be on hold. Maybe
> it is nice to write a new book for it.
>

+1 to this idea by Rob Westein

Cheers,
Rafael


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:44 PM Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Development of the LibreOffice Base Guide 7 seems to be on hold. Maybe
>> it is nice to write a new book for it.
>>
>
> +1 to this idea by Rob Westein
>
> Cheers,
> Rafael
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:28 PM Євген Кондратюк  wrote:
>
>> Hello, Olivier, all!
>>
>> Many LibO critical amendments to Help base in Bugzilla left unchanged.
>>
>> I insist on making an effort to completely resolve all issues.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> 10.03.21 14:50, Olivier Hallot пише:
>> > Hello Good Doc' People
>> >
>> > We will have the opportunity to apply for the 2021 edition of Google
>> > Seasons of Doc.
>> >
>> > The program is open to technical writers to work closely with open
>> > source projects, and LibreOffice & TDF qualify as in 2019 and 2020
>> > editions.
>> >
>> > The program is open to any technical writer. You may apply too.
>> >
>> > We need ideas. What are your ideas for LibreOffice documentation?
>> > Samples...
>> >
>> > + More e-learning classes (Moodle)?
>> > + Doc' for Accessibility (idea by Regina Henschel)?
>> > + Work on unfinished guides? Update to 7.1?
>> > + How-to's library ?
>> > + Collection of best Askbot Q ?
>> > + Notebook of exercises for training classes?
>> > + Any important doc community still miss?
>> > + ...
>> > + ...
>> > + ...
>> >
>> > PLease let us know your ideas ! If you have personal ideas that adds
>> > values to the LibreOffice community, you're on business too.
>> >
>> > Ideas already noted:
>> >
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2021#Ideas_for_Documentation_technical_writing
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Call for ideas on Technical Writing

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

Building upon Regis' suggestion, OpenOffice has a 1.600-page long
Developer's Guide. I myself have referred to this book on some occasions,
because it is a good introduction to the API.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/d/d9/DevelopersGuide_OOo3.1.0.pdf

However, LibreOffice needs its own book, since differences between LO and
OO are increasing over time. Hence, one possible idea would be to create a
LO Developer's Guide.

The main problem is that 1.600 pages is too long, so this could be broken
down into two separate proposals.

Regards,
Refael Lima

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:28 AM Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Building upon Regis' suggestion, OpenOffice has a 1.600-page long
> Developer's Guide. I myself have referred to this book on some occasions,
> because it is a good introduction to the API.
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/d/d9/DevelopersGuide_OOo3.1.0.pdf
>
> However, LibreOffice needs its own book, since differences between LO and
> OO are increasing over time. Hence, one possible idea would be to create a
> LO Developer's Guide.
>
> The main problem is that 1.600 pages is too long, so this could be broken
> down into two separate proposals.
>
> Regards,
> Refael Lima
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:36 AM Juan C. Sanz 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I think we need documentation on macro creation, especially on macro
>> creation in python (which is so fashionable lately). All documentation
>> on macros in basic is outdated and it is from OpenOffice (which, I'm
>> afraid, will be unavailable soon) and there is very little, almost
>> nothing, on python and it is scattered.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Juan C. Sanz
>>
>> El 11/03/2021 a las 2:20, Regis Perdreau escribió:
>> > HI Olivier
>> >
>> > Some real documentations for developers who want to enter the
>> libreoffice
>> > projet.
>> > Many papers are scattered, outdated. May be too ambitious.
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> >
>> > Régis Perdreau
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Le jeu. 11 mars 2021 à 01:29, Felipe Viggiano 
>> a
>> > écrit :
>> >
>> >> Hello Olivier,
>> >>
>> >> I would like to suggest a project idea:
>> >> Set up the LO Guides in an HTML format, with the requirement to make it
>> >> easy to be updated by the DOC Team.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Felipe Viggiano
>> >>
>> >> Em qua., 10 de mar. de 2021 às 09:52, Olivier Hallot <
>> >> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello Good Doc' People
>> >>>
>> >>> We will have the opportunity to apply for the 2021 edition of Google
>> >>> Seasons of Doc.
>> >>>
>> >>> The program is open to technical writers to work closely with open
>> >>> source projects, and LibreOffice & TDF qualify as in 2019 and 2020
>> >>> editions.
>> >>>
>> >>> The program is open to any technical writer. You may apply too.
>> >>>
>> >>> We need ideas. What are your ideas for LibreOffice documentation?
>> >>> Samples...
>> >>>
>> >>> + More e-learning classes (Moodle)?
>> >>> + Doc' for Accessibility (idea by Regina Henschel)?
>> >>> + Work on unfinished guides? Update to 7.1?
>> >>> + How-to's library ?
>> >>> + Collection of best Askbot Q ?
>> >>> + Notebook of exercises for training classes?
>> >>> + Any important doc community still miss?
>> >>> + ...
>> >>> + ...
>> >>> + ...
>> >>>
>> >>> PLease let us know your ideas ! If you have personal ideas that adds
>> >>> values to the LibreOffice community, you're on business too.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ideas already noted:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2021#Ideas_for_Documentation_technical_writing
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> --
>> >>> Olivier Hallot
>> >>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>> >>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
>> >>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite:
>> >>> https://www.libreoffice.org
>> >>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data
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>> >>>
>> >&

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation

[Rafael Lima]

Dante,

The only "documentation" I know of is in this link:
https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@sw.openoffice.org/msg00200.html

This is actually an overview of the starmath module. This link is in the
README file inside the "starmath" folder.

I also searched on Google and on OpenOffice's website to see if I could
find anything else, but there was nothing there.

Regards,
Rafael

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:38 PM Dave Barton  wrote:

>
>  Original Message 
> From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de]
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021, 19:08 UTC
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation
>
> > Hi Dante,
> >
> > Dante Doménech schrieb am 27.02.2021 um 13:07:
> >> Hello.
> >> I was wondering if there's any wiki website for the code documentation.
> >> In particular I'm interested on starmath documentation.
> >> If there's one could you point me there?
> >
> > For such, you should start at
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development
> >
> > There you can explore "Source Code Documentation", which leads me to
> > https://docs.libreoffice.org/starmath.html (I think, the content there
> > comes originally from Eric Bachard)
> >
> > and look at "Writing Source Code Documentation" how to add the
> > information to the code.
> >
> >> If not, where should I create it?
> >>
> >
> > In case you will go with the Wiki, you should start at
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development with Section "Misc."
> > (scroll down). It has the single Modules. There you would need to add
> > "Math".
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Regina
>
> Dante, I don't know if you are subscribed to this list, so I am poking
> my nose in here again, because Regina is much more involved and
> knowledgable about the project code than I am. However, based on 20+
> years of observation and experience I do know you can definitely trust
> any pointers Regina offers you.
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath syntax hightlight

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Dante!

Thank you for the initiative! Syntax highlighting is something I have
always wished to see in StarMath. I am myself a frequent user of StarMath,
so I can tell that this will be a great addition to the application.

The current Formula Editor does not provide a good experience, especially
when the formula gets very long. Also, it becomes hard to spot syntax
mistakes if there's no highlighting.

I'll pull and build your patch later today to see how it performs. Then
I'll try to provide some feedback from the user perspective. However, my
experience with the LibreOffice codebase is limited, so I can't help with
automated tests.

Regards,
Rafael Lima


On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:58 AM Dante Doménech 
wrote:

>  The starmath syntax highlight first revision is now available here:
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/109639/21
>
> I write asking for a deep review since it's a patch that may change the
> user experience.
> I'd like the UX team to take a look and evaluate the code legibility.
> Note that bright colors have been avoided.
> Maybe some documentation should be added.
> Get sure the preferences page keeps up to the accessibility and quality
> standards.
> Can get a stability test with some twisted starmath code I haven't thought
> of.
> I can't think of any automated test, but it may be possible.
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Second Review - GS7004-Writer

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I finished the second review of Chapter 4, Getting Started with Writer. The
reviewed file is in the WIP folder and the previous version is in the
Archived folder.I made a few changes and left some comments for
consideration during the final edit. All changes were recorded using the
Record Track Changes feature.

I believe the chapter is ready for final edit and publication.

Rafael Lima


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:56 AM Rafael Lima 
wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> I am checking out the file GS7004-Writer-02-JHW-KK-JHW-20201124 for a
> second review.
>
> I expect to return it on Sunday, Jan 24.
>
> Rafael Lima
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Metadata Loss LO 7.1.0.2

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I ran a few tests here using LO 7.2 alpha, nightly (I don't have 7.1 RC2
here):

1) When I create a new document by going to File > New > Text Document
(without choosing a template), the Properties fields are all blank. But if
I change them and save the file, all is fine when I reopen it.

2) When I create a new document from a template (say, the Default
template), then the Tile field has the name of the template ("Default" in
this case). Changing it and saving the file is working without any issues.

Let's see if anyone has 7.1 RC2 to test this as well.

Rafael

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:44 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas <
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> On 21.1.2021 14.50, Dave Barton wrote:
> > Version: 7.1.0.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
> > Build ID: 53d68d29d90fd16448721a60aad68c28ff0809f5
> > CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster;
> > VCL: win
> > Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US
> > Calc: threaded
> >
> > Before raising a bug report I would like to know if anyone else is
> > seeing this issue:
> >
> > * Normally when a new document is created in Writer the Document
> > Properties Title field is automatically filled with the name of the
> > template (eg. Default) upon which the document is based.
> >
> > * Changing the Document Properties Title field in a new or existing
> > document blanks the field in the saved file.
> >
> > * Opening the saved file in any other version of LO restores the field
> > lost in version 7.1.0.2
>
> Are you sure you are getting "Default" in the title? I only get a
> pre-filled title with some template like Modern business letter. Works
> fine with 7.2 at least.
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Second Review - GS7004-Writer

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am checking out the file GS7004-Writer-02-JHW-KK-JHW-20201124 for a
second review.

I expect to return it on Sunday, Jan 24.

Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Second Review - GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts

[Rafael Lima]

Hello Everyone!

I finished my second review of GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts. It is now in the
WIP folder. I moved the previous version to the Archive folder.

I added a few comments with minor suggestions during the final edit. I
believe the chapter is ready for publication.

Regards,
Rafael


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> Hi Team,
>
> I am checking out the file GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts_02_JHW_KK_JHW_20201205
> for a second review.
>
> I expect to return it on Monday.
>
> Rafael Lima
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[libreoffice-documentation] Second Review - GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am checking out the file GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts_02_JHW_KK_JHW_20201205
for a second review.

I expect to return it on Monday.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Second Review - GS7016-OpenSourceStandardsDoc

[Rafael Lima]

Hello Everyone!

I finished my second review of GS7016-OpenSourceStandardsDoc. It is now in
the WIP folder. I moved the previous version to the Archive folder.

I believe the chapter is ready for final edit and publication.

Regards,
Rafael

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:01 AM Rafael Lima 
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> Hi Team,
>
> I am checking out the file GS7016-OpenSourceStandardsDoc-JHW-KK-20201122
> for a second review.
>
> I expect to return it on Friday.
>
> Rafael Lima
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7010-PrintExportEmailSign - Screenshot Streched and Cropped on Page 8

[Rafael Lima]

Hi. I've had this issue when I update the image by pasting a new image over
the old one. For some reason the image frame does not resize to fit the new
image.

What I do to fix this is right-click the image, then go to Properties. In
the Crop tab I click the Original Size button.

Hope this helps.
Rafael

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> On 15.1.2021 1.24, W T wrote:
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > I am currently reviewing GS7010-PrintExportEmailSign and have a question.
> >
> > At the top of page 8, there is a screenshot for Figure 3. Printing a
> > selection of text.
> > When I use the LibreOffice online, the screenshot looks fine as shown
> here:
> > https://snipboard.io/rhmEOo.jpg
> >
> > But when I use the Windows desktop version of LibreOffice Writer (version
> > 7.0.4.2 (x64)) the image looks stretched and cropped as shown here:
> > https://snipboard.io/hxWyAY.jpg
> >
> > Has anyone had the same experience?  Is this a bug on the Windows version
> > of LO Writer?
>
> It looks fine for me on Windows. Maybe experiment with this setting to
> see, if its states have any effect: Tools - Options - LibreOffice - View
> - Use Skia for all rendering
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Second Review - GS7016-OpenSourceStandardsDoc

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am checking out the file GS7016-OpenSourceStandardsDoc-JHW-KK-20201122
for a second review.

I expect to return it on Friday.

Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Second Review - GS7014-CustomizingLO

[Rafael Lima]

Hello Everyone!

I finished my second review of GS7014-CustomizingLO. It is now in the WIP
folder. I moved the previous version to the Archive folder.

I basically made minor changes in the text and formatting (all changes were
recorded using Record Track Changes).

However, there is one change worth mentioning: I updated Figure 8 because
LO now recommends icons with 24 x 24 pixels instead of 16 x 16. Because I
took the screenshot using Ubuntu, maybe Jean will want to update it using
Windows in his final edit, since all other screenshots were taken on the
Windows version.

Cheers,
Rafael



On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:00 PM Rafael Lima 
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> Hi Team,
>
> I am checking out the file GS7014-CustomizingLO_02-JHW-KK-JHW-20201122 for
> a second review.
>
> I expect to return it on Wednesday.
>
> Rafael Lima
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[libreoffice-documentation] Second Review - GS7014-CustomizingLO

[Rafael Lima]

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a second review.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7008 Base

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Rob,

I recommend you read the following chapter of the Contributor's Guide:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/UsingGuideTemplate

Also, there are some instructions in the template file that are very useful.

If you'd like to check out the Documentation Team Wiki page, here's the
link:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation

Cheers,

Rafael Lima

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:34 PM Rob Westein  wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> I didn't knew I had to update the template and do all other stuff as
> this is my first real contribution on documenting.
> I guess I can read on all the actions I have to make in the Contribution
> Guide??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On 30-12-2020 14:45, Rafael Lima wrote:
> > Hi Rob!
> >
> > I was taking a look at the GS7008-GettingStartedWithBase_01-RW.odt file
> and
> > it seems you have not updated the template and the version numbers in the
> > File Properties fields. You also have to update the list of contributors'
> > names.
> >
> > The new template is in the following Nextcloud folder:
> > /English/Contributor Resources/LibreOffice_7.x_Template.ott
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rafael Lima
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 9:29 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jean,
> >>
> >> OK, I will return the document next Friday or sooner.
> >> /Rob
> >>
> >> On 28-12-2020 21:06, Jean Weber wrote:
> >>> Rob,
> >>> If you can replace the poor quality images quickly, that would be
> great.
> >>> Fixing the difference in icon sets is IMO less urgent because many
> other
> >>> chapters are also inconsistent, but still worth doing. Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Jean
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 21:10 Rob Westein  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've updated the 6.4 Base guide to 7.0. Uploaded file
> >>>> GS7008-GettingStartedWithBase_01-RW.odt to the "Work In Progress
> >> folder".
> >>>> No big changes.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only thing I'm worried about are the images used in the guide. The
> >>>> images vary in quality and several icon sets are used throughout the
> >>>> Guide
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think: should I replace them?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob
> >>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Illustrations used in user guides

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Peter,

I brought this up because this requirement was present in the previous
version of the Contributor's Guide. When I first read the guide and then
started my first chapter update, I created some new images and saved them
in an ODG file. Later on I tried to figure out where to upload the ODG file
into NextCloud by looking for other ODG files, but found none.

Now, my opinion is that saving ODG files is only useful if the figure has
lots of annotations (arrows, callouts, etc). In such cases, reviewers can
edit the image and update annotations. In cases where the images are simply
a screenshot of a dialog without any annotation, then it's not really
necessary to upload the image to NextCloud because it would be very simple
to take a new screenshot if necessary.

As for the use of ODG by translators, maybe these files are not very
helpful to them. Consider a case where there is a dialog screenshot (the
dialog is in English) and lots of annotations in English too. A translator
will have to take a new screenshot and change the annotations manually.
Hence, the existence of an ODG file wouldn't be very helpful. We could ask
their opinion on this matter.

I think we have two possible paths:
1) We can drop this requirement from the Contributor's guide;
2) We could improve this procedure to provide more directions on how to
handle images. For example, for each chapter ODT file there could be an ODG
file with the same name containing all the images prepared for the chapter.
We could also highlight that this should be done only for images that have
annotations.

What path do you think is best?

Regards,
Rafael Lima

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:16 AM Peter Schofield  wrote:

> Hello Dan
>
> There is no need to create a bitmap. You can export illustrations with or
> without text directly from Draw into PNG format. Just use the default
> settings in the export dialog for PNG.
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> Sent from my iPad Mini
>
> > On 15 Dec 2020, at 13:46, Dan Lewis  wrote:
> >
> > What I do is use Draw to combine text and a screenshot. Next group the
> two. With a right click, this can be converted to bitmap. Next save as an
> image (PNG).
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >> On 12/15/20 06:14, Peter Schofield wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> A review comment raised by Rafael about illustrations.
> >>
> >> Are we going to store all the illustrations used in user guide chapters
> in NextCloud?
> >> This could create storage space problems on NextCloud as illustrations
> do take a lot of storage space.
> >>
> >> If we are storing illustrations in NextCloud, do we store PNG and ODG
> format? PNG format is the best to use, but ODG format is needed if text has
> been added to a screenshot.
> >>
> >> Would appreciate a prompt answer so I make changes to Chapter 2
> Producing LO Guides.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Peter Schofield
> >> psaut...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Producing LO Guides

[Rafael Lima]

Hello everyone!

I read the new version of Chapter 2 (Producing LO Guides) prepared by Peter
for the Contributor's Guide. I did not make any changes to the document,
but instead added a few comments with suggestions.

The commented version is in the Work in Progress folder and is named
*2-ProducingLOGuides-PS-RL-20201214.odt*

In my honest opinion, I think the proposed changes in the structure and the
new contents added to the chapter are a step in the right direction. From
the standpoint of a new contributor, I think that this new version is more
straightforward and addresses the main questions and mistakes that
newcomers make.

I really liked that the discussion between "updating" and "reviewing" a
chapter was brought to the beginning of Chapter 2.

As for the proposed change in the versioning system (using sequential
numbers instead of dates), I tend to agree with this new approach. We
actually do not use the date values and I think that sequential numbers
will look clearer and will be enough for our internal control.

Best regards,
Rafael Lima


On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:32 AM Peter Schofield  wrote:

> Sorry Dave
>
> Error on my part.
>
> I shall delete the older one, but will retain a copy on my Mac mini.
> I will update the spreadsheet.
>
> Regards
> Peter
>
> > On 30 Oct 2020, at 14:23, Dave Barton  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Do you propose to:
> >  * Update the guide status sheet?
> >  * Leave two versions of Chapter 2 in the WIP folder?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 30/10/2020 10:43, Peter Schofield wrote:
> >> An seriously updated version of Chapter 02 Producing LO Guides is now
> in the Work In Progress folder for Documentation Team Info ready for review
> and comment.
> >>
> >> The filename is 2-ProducingLOGuides-PS-20201030.odt.
> >>
> >> This chapter has been updated using the LO Template version 7.0 and has
> been written in the user guide style. This will help any contributor to
> write or update a chapter as they have a sample of what a user guide
> chapter should look like. The previous version, in my opinion, was very
> difficult to follow, definitely not clear on how to produce chapters for a
> user guide and not a good sample to follow.
> >>
> >> Some people may disagree with my efforts, but something needs to done
> and improve the standard of contributors’ information.
> >>
> >> If there is an agreement on the style used in this update, then I am
> willing to tackle the remaining chapters.
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Thoughts on Rafael Lima's suggestions in updated Preface of Writer Guide

[Rafael Lima]

Hello everyone!

Thank you Jean for your feedback. I believe you're right bringing this
discussion to the mailing list because it might affect other guides as
well. I'd like to make some additional remarks:

1) I checked out the AOO forum and there are some recent questions made by
users, but it's nowhere near the amount of questions we receive in Ask
LibreOffice. I believe that the link to OpenOffice forums should be removed
because many features work differently now (menus, dialogs, etc) and this
might confuse users instead of helping them. An alternative to removing the
link is to add a Caution note explaining that there might be differences
between OO and LO.

2) The "Check for Updates" feature is not available in my installation of
LibreOffice. I'm using LO 7.0.3.1 on Ubuntu 20.10 (the PPA version). AFIK
the PPA maintainers disable some features in their build of LO, which might
explain the lack of the "Check for Updates" feature. Maybe we could add a
Note explaining that the "Check for Updates" may not be available in
packages provided by third-parties.

Regards,
Rafael

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 9:15 AM Marc Paré  wrote:

> Hi Jean, Rafael et al,
>
> Le 2020-12-05 à 17 h 50, Jean Weber a écrit :
> > Lastly, Rafael says the "Check for Updates" Help menu item does not
> > exist on Linux. It does on my Linux installation.
> >
> > Jean
> I usually "lurk" this list.
>
> My Mageia7 Linux "packaged" version of LibreOffice 6.4.7.2 does not have
> the "Check for Updates" as the package manager(s) usually remove this
> menu item. However, my LibreOffice version of LibreOffice v.7.0.3.1
> downloaded from LibreOffice.org does have the "Check for Updates" menu
> item as per usual.
>
> Perhaps this discrepancy could be noted of the two possibilities. That
> various packaged linux versions may have this menu line removed and the
> downloaded LibreOffice.org versions have this menu line..
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started with Math

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean!

I have just reviewed all your suggestions. In my opinion, the improvements
you made to the chapter made it more concise, which is great for a chapter
in the Getting Started Guide.

I left comments on 2 changes related to those Notes/Tips. The reviewed
version is in the WIP folder.

Rafael


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 5:32 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I have reviewed this updated chapter and made some suggestions. Rafael
> Lima, you may wish to look over what I’ve done. It’s in the WIP folder.
> Jean
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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Broken link - Wiki on Python Macros

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Celia,

I used the following link for APSO:
https://gitlab.com/jmzambon/apso

This link points to APSO's gitlab repository. It is possible to download
the extension from there.

Regards,

Rafael

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 12:47 AM Celia Palacios <
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> Hi, Rafael
>
> Please give me the right link and I update it this weekend.
>
>
> Celia
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[libreoffice-documentation] GS7013 - Getting Started with Macros updated

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I uploaded the updated version of GS7013. It is now available for review in
the Work in Progress folder.

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Broken link - Wiki on Python Macros

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier!

Thanks for your reply. I'll use this link to refer to the APSO extension.

Rafael


On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:23 PM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> HI Rafael
>
> While we put the extension back in place, the source is
>
> https://gitlab.com/jmzambon/apso
>
> Regards
> Olivier
>
> Em 23/11/2020 19:49, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > I am updating the Getting Started chapter on Macros. The section about
> > Python scripting makes reference to APSO (Alternate Python Script
> > Organizer), which is also linked in the Wiki page ("Designing &
> Developing
> > Python Applications"):
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Design_Guide
> >
> > The link for APSO in the Wiki page is:
> >
> https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ru/extensions/show/apso-alternative-script-organizer-for-python
> >
> > However this link is now broken. The weird thing is that I use APSO and I
> > downloaded it a few months ago using this link.
> >
> > Then I checked the Extensions (https://extensions.libreoffice.org/) page
> > and the APSO extension is no longer listed there.
> >
> > Does anyone know if and why it has been removed? Is it just a temporary
> > issue? This is a very important plugin for macro developers and I wish it
> > will still be available in the Extensions page. I would also like to keep
> > the reference to APSO in the guide, but for that it needs to be available
> > for download.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Rafael
> >
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[libreoffice-documentation] Broken link - Wiki on Python Macros

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am updating the Getting Started chapter on Macros. The section about
Python scripting makes reference to APSO (Alternate Python Script
Organizer), which is also linked in the Wiki page ("Designing & Developing
Python Applications"):
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Design_Guide

The link for APSO in the Wiki page is:
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ru/extensions/show/apso-alternative-script-organizer-for-python

However this link is now broken. The weird thing is that I use APSO and I
downloaded it a few months ago using this link.

Then I checked the Extensions (https://extensions.libreoffice.org/) page
and the APSO extension is no longer listed there.

Does anyone know if and why it has been removed? Is it just a temporary
issue? This is a very important plugin for macro developers and I wish it
will still be available in the Extensions page. I would also like to keep
the reference to APSO in the guide, but for that it needs to be available
for download.

Many thanks

Rafael

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started 7.0 needs updaters & reviewers

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I will **update** Chpater 13 (Macros).

Rafael

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM Rafael Lima 
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> Hi Jean,
>
> I will review Chapter 13 (Macros). Expect it returned by Friday.
>
> Rafael Lima
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:55 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jean,
>>
>> I will take a look at the old guide and compare it with Base  7. Hope to
>> do this this week...
>>
>> /Rob
>>
>>
>> > Op 23-11-2020 09:21 schreef Jean Weber :
>> >
>> >
>> > If someone from the Base Guide team could update Chapter 8 of Getting
>> > Started, or at least tell me if anything has changed in the program that
>> > needs to be mentioned, that would be very helpful. Thank you!
>> >
>> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 at 17:52 Jean Weber  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thank you to the people reviewing updated chapters of GS70.
>> > > I have taken Ch12 (HTML pages) to update. PeterS will do 6 (Impress)
>> > > and 7 (Draw).
>> > > Three other chapters still need to be updated: 8 (Base), 13 (Macros)
>> > > and 15 (Appendix A, Keyboard Shortcuts)
>> > >
>> > > Jean
>> > >
>> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started 7.0 needs updaters & reviewers

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

I will review Chapter 13 (Macros). Expect it returned by Friday.

Rafael Lima

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:55 AM Rob Westein  wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> I will take a look at the old guide and compare it with Base  7. Hope to
> do this this week...
>
> /Rob
>
>
> > Op 23-11-2020 09:21 schreef Jean Weber :
> >
> >
> > If someone from the Base Guide team could update Chapter 8 of Getting
> > Started, or at least tell me if anything has changed in the program that
> > needs to be mentioned, that would be very helpful. Thank you!
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 at 17:52 Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you to the people reviewing updated chapters of GS70.
> > > I have taken Ch12 (HTML pages) to update. PeterS will do 6 (Impress)
> > > and 7 (Draw).
> > > Three other chapters still need to be updated: 8 (Base), 13 (Macros)
> > > and 15 (Appendix A, Keyboard Shortcuts)
> > >
> > > Jean
> > >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 7 download for Ubuntu 16.04 32bit

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Peter!

I don't think there is a 32-bit build of LibreOffice 7.0. The LibreOffice
PPA used in Ubuntu only provides LO 7.0 for Ubuntu >= 18.04.

https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-7-0

The most recent LibreOffice version for Ubuntu 16.04 seems to be LO 6.2.

https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-6-2

Regards,

Rafael

Prof. Dr. Rafael Henrique Palma Lima
Departamento de Engenharia de Produção
Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná (UTFPR)
Câmpus de Londrina


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> Hello Peter
>
> Em 17/11/2020 09:45, Peter Schofield escreveu:
> > Is there a LibreOffice 7.0.3 download for installing on a Ubuntu 16.04
> on a 32bit laptop computer?
>
> There are no packages by TDF for 32 bits Linux anymore.
>
> 16.04 is quite old, I wonder if Ubuntu has a recent 32 bit LibreOffice
> for this version.
>
> Perhaps a digression of mine: If you plan to run LibreOffice on a Ubuntu
> machine for testing and authoring purposes, and, you have a good
> machine/laptop, you may want to try VirtualBox and install a newer 20.04
> or 20.10 Ubuntu there + recent LO.
>
> I know it may sound a challenge, but it is doable and it works. If you
> want to go in this direction, I can give you some advise although most
> installs are run by wizards.
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] GS7009 Getting Started with Math Updated

[Rafael Lima]

Hello Everyone!

I finished updating Chapter 9 of the Getting Started Guide and uploaded it
into the Work in Progress folder as
GS7009-GettingStartedWithMath_RL_20201109.odt.

It is now available for review.

Regards,

Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need help applying styles

[Rafael Lima]

Hi! Thanks for everyone's support! I followed the recommendations and
started pasting as Unformatted text. This way it always works.

I think Jean is right. The documents have undergone so many revisions that
maybe there is some odd formatting in their "internal code".

Dan and Jean, thanks for being willing to look further into the original
files, but I think it is not going to be necessary anymore. I am now
finishing the chapter and I think now I can fix problems like these.

Thanks!

Rafael Lima

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 4:44 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

> Rafael,
> This list removes any attachments. You’ll need to put the file in
> NextCloud so we can look at it. I’m happy to do that.
>
> To change a *paragraph* style, place the cursor in the paragraph (don’t
> select the text) and double-click the new style. If that doesn’t work, it’s
> possible that a manual Bold or other character style has also been applied
> to the text of the paragraph. Our files are old and have some odd
> formatting in them.
>
> Others have given answers for the character style/manual formatting
> problem.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 22:55 Rafael Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> I am currently working with the Getting Started with Math chapter.
>> However,
>> I am having a lot of trouble applying styles to this document.
>>
>> Because this guide consists of copying and pasting some paragraphs from
>> the
>> Math Guide, when I paste text into the document the pasted paragraph
>> inherits a different style than the one that was previously there. To fix
>> that, I select the pasted text and apply the style I want, for example
>> "Text Body". The problem is that the style has no effect on the document.
>> If I double click the style, it simply doesn't get applied to the selected
>> text. This has happened many times in this document.
>>
>> I attached the file I'm working on now. On page 18, the first paragraph in
>> the "Writing derivatives" section is using the style "Definition Term",
>> but
>> I want to change it to "Body Text". No matter what I do, I cannot apply
>> the
>> desired style to this paragraph. I tried using 2 different machines and
>> operating systems, but the problem is still there.
>>
>> I am using LO 7.0.3. Can anybody help me?
>>
>> Rafael Lima
>>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Need help applying styles

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I am currently working with the Getting Started with Math chapter. However,
I am having a lot of trouble applying styles to this document.

Because this guide consists of copying and pasting some paragraphs from the
Math Guide, when I paste text into the document the pasted paragraph
inherits a different style than the one that was previously there. To fix
that, I select the pasted text and apply the style I want, for example
"Text Body". The problem is that the style has no effect on the document.
If I double click the style, it simply doesn't get applied to the selected
text. This has happened many times in this document.

I attached the file I'm working on now. On page 18, the first paragraph in
the "Writing derivatives" section is using the style "Definition Term", but
I want to change it to "Body Text". No matter what I do, I cannot apply the
desired style to this paragraph. I tried using 2 different machines and
operating systems, but the problem is still there.

I am using LO 7.0.3. Can anybody help me?

Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Chapter 2 Updated

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

Yesterday I uploaded the updated version of Chapter 2 of the Writer Guide.
It is now available in the Work in Progress folder for review.

Now I will focus on the Math chapter from the Getting Started Guide. I plan
to finish it on Nov 9.

Regards,
Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Chapter 1 Updated

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I have just uploaded the Chapter 1 of the Writer Guide (WG7001) into the
Work in Progress folder.

Best regards,

Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Update on WG7000 - Preface

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team,

I have just uploaded the updated version of the Preface to the Writer Guide
into the Work in Progress folder.

I made a few changes in the text. I also left a few comments concerning
more delicate aspects that might also be changed, but before implementing
them I would like to hear the opinions of other members.

Regards,

Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Checkout for First Review

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Dave!

I still haven't completely understood the new workflow. Don't hesitate to
warn me if I do anything wrong.

I'll participate in this week's meeting. Maybe this could be a topic for
discussion.

Cheers,

Rafael

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:40 PM Dave Barton  wrote:

> Hi Rafael,
>
> OK. No problem.
>
> BTW. I have modified your entries on the status sheet, not because they
> were wrong but we are modifying our workflow and file naming structure.
> I am racing to get the contributor information updated and making
> changes on-the-fly to the next cloud content in line with the new
> workflow and file naming structure. Hopefully, we will all be "on the
> same page" (horrible pun intended :)) ) very soon.
>
> Best Regards
> Dave
>
> On 20/10/2020 19:09, Rafael Lima wrote:
> > Hi Dave!
> >
> > You're right. What I'll do is update the chapters from version 6.4 to
> 7.0.
> >
> > I agree with you that it would be better to update just one chapter at a
> > time. However, the Preface and the first two chapters seem smaller and
> > simpler to update. This is why I checked out all of them at once.
> >
> > For future chapters I'll check them out one at a time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rafael
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:03 PM Dave Barton 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 20/10/2020 18:05, Rafael Lima wrote:
> >>> Hi Team!
> >>>
> >>> I am checking out the Preface and Chapters 1 and 2 of the Writer Guide
> >> for
> >>> a first review. I expect to return them by October 26.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rafael Lima
> >>
> >> Hi Rafael,
> >>
> >> Presumably this is the Writer Guide for version 7.0
> >>
> >> In which case you are starting the new updated editions of chapters from
> >> the previously published version 6.4, which is a little different from a
> >> first review of updates done by another author.
> >>
> >> It's up to you, but you might find it better to take just one chapter at
> >> a time rather than to try and tackle a multiple block of chapters all at
> >> the same time.
> >>
> >> Thank you for taking this on.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Dave
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Checkout for First Review

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Dave!

You're right. What I'll do is update the chapters from version 6.4 to 7.0.

I agree with you that it would be better to update just one chapter at a
time. However, the Preface and the first two chapters seem smaller and
simpler to update. This is why I checked out all of them at once.

For future chapters I'll check them out one at a time.

Regards,

Rafael

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:03 PM Dave Barton  wrote:

> On 20/10/2020 18:05, Rafael Lima wrote:
> > Hi Team!
> >
> > I am checking out the Preface and Chapters 1 and 2 of the Writer Guide
> for
> > a first review. I expect to return them by October 26.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rafael Lima
>
> Hi Rafael,
>
> Presumably this is the Writer Guide for version 7.0
>
> In which case you are starting the new updated editions of chapters from
> the previously published version 6.4, which is a little different from a
> first review of updates done by another author.
>
> It's up to you, but you might find it better to take just one chapter at
> a time rather than to try and tackle a multiple block of chapters all at
> the same time.
>
> Thank you for taking this on.
>
> Best Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Checkout for First Review

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Team!

I am checking out the Preface and Chapters 1 and 2 of the Writer Guide for
a first review. I expect to return them by October 26.

Regards,

Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide 7.0 upload to NextCloud

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Jean,

When I first checked out the Math Guide, I thought it would take me longer
to finish updating it. That's why I expected to return it by Oct 20.

However, I managed to finish updating it earlier than expected. The actual
return dates are:
1) October 12th (first return)
2) October 14th (second return with revisions following comments by Olivier)
3) October 15th (final revision by Olivier)

I believe there is nothing else to add to the Math Guide. Hence the guide
is available for you to do your review.

Kind regards,

Rafael Lima


On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 11:51 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I downloaded the file. When I checked the status spreadsheet, I saw that
> Rafael has. It checked out with expected return of 20 Oct. should I wait to
> do my review? In a quick look, I can see a lot of (mostly minor) things
> that are out of date.
>
> Jean
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 16:51 Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> > I will take a look. -Jean
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 10:53 Olivier Hallot <
> > olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rafael, Team
> >>
> >> I reviewed the last changes and committed them.
> >>
> >> file is MG70-MathGuide-RL-OH-15Oct2020.odt
> >>
> >> And also
> >> * Applied the new 7.0 template styles to the document
> >> * Fixed NOTE -> Note
> >> * Fixed Some numbered list with numbering not properly aligned
> >> * Resized tables to fit the margins (width: relative, 100%)
> >> * Could not apply the script odtclean.py to cleanup direct formatting.
> >> It does not run anymore in my Kubuntu 20.04
> >> * Added Contributors name for 7.0
> >>
> >> I did not published the Guide, but it is almost done, IMHO (minus
> >> cleanup). Another look from the Team?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Em 14/10/2020 14:57, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > I have just uploaded an updated version of the Math Guide to the Work
> in
> >> > Progress folder.
> >> >
> >> > I made a few adjustments based on Olivier's comments.
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> >
> >> > Rafael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:05 PM Olivier Hallot <
> >> > olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello Rafael
> >> >>
> >> >> I reviewed your updates and additions and I liked very much. I have
> >> >> uploaded the file with my initials appended (OH) so you can have a
> >> >> second look.
> >> >>
> >> >> I left some comments too, for your guidance nd judgement. Some
> changes
> >> >> were rejected, but the vast majority accepted. Track changes are not
> >> >> enabled by default, but previous are visible.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks you for your excellent contribution.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards
> >> >> Olivier
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Em 12/10/2020 10:39, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> >> >>> Hi!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have just uploaded the updated version of the Math Guide into the
> >> Work
> >> >> in
> >> >>> Progress folder.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Because this is my first contribution, feel free to point out
> anything
> >> >> that
> >> >>> needs to be revised further.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I used the "Track Changes" commando throughout my work, but I
> disabled
> >> >> the
> >> >>> "Show Changes" button. If anyone wishes to see the changes, remember
> >> to
> >> >>> enable the "Show Changes" button.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Rafael Lima
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Olivier Hallot
> >> >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
> >> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide 7.0 upload to NextCloud

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I have just uploaded an updated version of the Math Guide to the Work in
Progress folder.

I made a few adjustments based on Olivier's comments.

Kind regards,

Rafael



On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 6:05 PM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hello Rafael
>
> I reviewed your updates and additions and I liked very much. I have
> uploaded the file with my initials appended (OH) so you can have a
> second look.
>
> I left some comments too, for your guidance nd judgement. Some changes
> were rejected, but the vast majority accepted. Track changes are not
> enabled by default, but previous are visible.
>
> Thanks you for your excellent contribution.
>
> Kind regards
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 12/10/2020 10:39, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have just uploaded the updated version of the Math Guide into the Work
> in
> > Progress folder.
> >
> > Because this is my first contribution, feel free to point out anything
> that
> > needs to be revised further.
> >
> > I used the "Track Changes" commando throughout my work, but I disabled
> the
> > "Show Changes" button. If anyone wishes to see the changes, remember to
> > enable the "Show Changes" button.
> >
> > Rafael Lima
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [VOTE] On changes to documentation workflow.

[Rafael Lima]

I vote for Option 1.

Reason: I still do not feel the need for a more complex versioning system.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:22 PM DaveB  wrote:

> On 13/10/2020 18:08, DaveB wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Other than Peter Schofield nobody else has expressed any thoughts or
> > opinions as whether or not we should adopt the NextCloud versioning
> > system, or should we continue with the proposed folder structure and
> > file naming format, so I propose a poll:
> >
> > Option 1.
> > Go ahead with the simplified folder structure and file naming format,
> >
> > or
> >
> > Option 2.
> > Adopt the NextCloud versioning system.
> >
> > I propose closing the vote at 17:00 UTC on Friday 16th. October 2020.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dave
>
> My vote: Option 1.
>
> Rational:
> The NextCloud versioning system is a solution to a problem we don't
> really have.
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Math Guide 7.0 upload to NextCloud

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I have just uploaded the updated version of the Math Guide into the Work in
Progress folder.

Because this is my first contribution, feel free to point out anything that
needs to be revised further.

I used the "Track Changes" commando throughout my work, but I disabled the
"Show Changes" button. If anyone wishes to see the changes, remember to
enable the "Show Changes" button.

Rafael Lima

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guide Covers for 7.0

[Rafael Lima]

Hi Olivier!

I also opened under Okular in Kubuntu 20.04 and had no issues except a
> delay in rendering the page.
>

You are right. The files do open in Okular. The thing is that they take
about 15 seconds to finish loading and in the meantime the pages are shown
as empty pages. And I had not waited enough to see them open.

Just as a tip, for those in Linux it is possible to use the command-line
tool *pdftoppm* to export the Covers PDF file into high-resolution PNGs.

pdftoppm -png -rx 300 -ry 300 Guid_Covers.pdf guide_covers

Cheers

Rafael


On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:17 AM Olivier Hallot <
olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hi Rafael
>
> Thanks for your tests.
>
> Em 12/10/2020 09:55, Rafael Lima escreveu:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am using Linux and I had a similar problem as reported by Jean.If I
> open
> > the PDF file using Okular, all pages are blank. However, if I open the
> PDF
> > with Firefox's PDF viewer, all is fine and the images load really fast.
>
> I also opened under Okular in Kubuntu 20.04 and had no issues except a
> delay in rendering the page.
>
> >
> > Also, if I open the cover files in ODT format they turn out to be too
> heavy
> > and it is very hard to scroll down the document and make any editing. As
> > discussed in our last meeting, this is because the image in the ODT file
> is
> > in SVG format.
> >
> > What I did was open the SVG files using Inkscape and export as a 300 dpi
> > PNG file. Then I inserted them as PNG images into the ODT files. Now
> > they're lighter to load and navigate.
>
> I had not compared to the 6.x edition covers, but I suspect the
> complexity of the 7.0 drawing may put a toll on the vector processing
> and turn some machines quite slow and memory hungry.
>
> Regards
>
> Olivier
>
> >
> > Rafael Lima
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:31 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> >> I forgot to say that the Mac I'm using is running the latest OS,
> >> Catalina. Now I've tried the PDF in Preview on a much older Mac,
> >> running High Sierra, and it opens and displays with no problem. I
> >> guess I will next reboot the new machine and see if that makes a
> >> difference.
> >>
> >> Jean
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:16 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Olivier,
> >>> When I open the GS7 cover PDF within NextCloud, it looks correct, but
> >>> when I download the file to my Mac and open it in Preview (the most
> >>> common way Mac users open PDFs, AFAIK), most of the contents are not
> >>> visible. I have never seen this happen before!
> >>>
> >>> It does open, but very slowly, in Adobe Reader on my Mac and in Adobe
> >>> Reader on Windows 10, but on Win10 Adobe Reader stopped working while
> >>> I was trying to scroll down to the back cover. I have not checked this
> >>> PDF on any Linux distro. I have not tried any of the other cover PDFs.
> >>>
> >>> Jean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:05 AM Olivier Hallot
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Team
> >>>>
> >>>> Pushing forward the work initiated by Rizal Muttaquin and later by
> Drew
> >>>> Jensen, I gave a try on the back and front covers of the 7.0 series of
> >>>> Guides.
> >>>>
> >>>> All files are in the /Contributor Resources/Cover7.0/ folder.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not a designer nor an expert in the printing industry, so forgive
> >>>> the errors and mistakes. Furthermore, I had to learn Inkscape UI
> almost
> >>>> from scratch.
> >>>>
> >>>> All Source-* files are editable and has fonts "as fonts", that is, if
> >>>> later we must change anything, we can type the new text.
> >>>>
> >>>> All *-converted-to-curves*- files are files where the fonts were
> >>>> converted into curves, so that the final SVG does not depend on
> >>>> installed fonts, but then the texts are not easily editable.
> >>>>
> >>>> The -converted-to-curves- files were used as front and back covers for
> >>>> the ODT files with associated names. These are just samples.
> >>>>
> >>>> The PDF files are the above ODFs exported to PDF.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also uploaded the trueno fonts used in the guide front covers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Whi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guide Covers for 7.0

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I am using Linux and I had a similar problem as reported by Jean.If I open
the PDF file using Okular, all pages are blank. However, if I open the PDF
with Firefox's PDF viewer, all is fine and the images load really fast.

Also, if I open the cover files in ODT format they turn out to be too heavy
and it is very hard to scroll down the document and make any editing. As
discussed in our last meeting, this is because the image in the ODT file is
in SVG format.

What I did was open the SVG files using Inkscape and export as a 300 dpi
PNG file. Then I inserted them as PNG images into the ODT files. Now
they're lighter to load and navigate.

Rafael Lima

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 8:31 AM Jean Weber  wrote:

> I forgot to say that the Mac I'm using is running the latest OS,
> Catalina. Now I've tried the PDF in Preview on a much older Mac,
> running High Sierra, and it opens and displays with no problem. I
> guess I will next reboot the new machine and see if that makes a
> difference.
>
> Jean
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 9:16 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >
> > Olivier,
> > When I open the GS7 cover PDF within NextCloud, it looks correct, but
> > when I download the file to my Mac and open it in Preview (the most
> > common way Mac users open PDFs, AFAIK), most of the contents are not
> > visible. I have never seen this happen before!
> >
> > It does open, but very slowly, in Adobe Reader on my Mac and in Adobe
> > Reader on Windows 10, but on Win10 Adobe Reader stopped working while
> > I was trying to scroll down to the back cover. I have not checked this
> > PDF on any Linux distro. I have not tried any of the other cover PDFs.
> >
> > Jean
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:05 AM Olivier Hallot
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Team
> > >
> > > Pushing forward the work initiated by Rizal Muttaquin and later by Drew
> > > Jensen, I gave a try on the back and front covers of the 7.0 series of
> > > Guides.
> > >
> > > All files are in the /Contributor Resources/Cover7.0/ folder.
> > >
> > > I am not a designer nor an expert in the printing industry, so forgive
> > > the errors and mistakes. Furthermore, I had to learn Inkscape UI almost
> > > from scratch.
> > >
> > > All Source-* files are editable and has fonts "as fonts", that is, if
> > > later we must change anything, we can type the new text.
> > >
> > > All *-converted-to-curves*- files are files where the fonts were
> > > converted into curves, so that the final SVG does not depend on
> > > installed fonts, but then the texts are not easily editable.
> > >
> > > The -converted-to-curves- files were used as front and back covers for
> > > the ODT files with associated names. These are just samples.
> > >
> > > The PDF files are the above ODFs exported to PDF.
> > >
> > > I also uploaded the trueno fonts used in the guide front covers.
> > >
> > > While I think the covers are usable right now, I may have missed
> something.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Reviewing Math Guide and update to LO 7.0

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

I am just writing to inform that I checked out today the Math Guide and I
plan to finish reviewing and updating it to LO 7.0 by October 20.

Because this is my first contribution, yesterday I was instructed by
Olivier Hallot and Felipe Viggiano on how to proceed.

Cheers,

Rafael Lima

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[libreoffice-documentation] Wish to join the Documentation Team

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

My name is Rafael Lima and I use LibreOffice every day to prepare 
lectures and also to write scientific papers.


I read on the following post that the Documentation Team is looking for 
a volunteer to review / update the Math Guide for LO 7.0.


https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/24/documentation-team-status/

I believe I can contribute by doing this task. How can I begin?

Cheers,

Rafael Lima


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[libreoffice-documentation] Wish to join the Documentation Team

[Rafael Lima]

Hi!

My name is Rafael Lima and I use LibreOffice every day to prepare lectures
and also to write scientific papers.

I read on the following post that the Documentation Team is looking for a
volunteer to review / update the Math Guide for LO 7.0.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/24/documentation-team-status/

I believe I can contribute by doing this task. How can I begin?

I had previously sent this message using another email address. However, I
subscribed to the Documentation mailing list using my Gmail. That's why I'm
writing a new email from the same Gmail account I used to subscribe to the
mailing list.

Cheers,

Rafael Lima

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