[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 Revision 1, change applied directly.

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Team

I copied Base Guide 7.3 REV 0 files into the folder REV 1.

I fixed the issues reported and added a comment (Ctrl+Alt+C) to each. I 
invite the team to fix the issues directly and add a comment indicating 
the change.


On publishing the revision, the comments will be verified and removed.

From Jean
--8<-
Things to fix in Rev1:
Page 131, list numbering starts at 4); sublist starts at e). [Chapter 3]
Page 285, sublist under 5) starts at c). [Chapter 5]
Page 336, list starts at 3). [Chapter 7]
--8<-

From flywire
--8<-
There are missing pdf bookmarks for headings, eg Ch2 SQLite Databases
--8<-

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published

[flywire]

There are missing pdf bookmarks for headings, eg Ch2 SQLite Databases

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Dev
Thanks for the heads-up.
Fixed
Olivier
PS: cut and paste in small font and low contrast web editor.

Em 08/06/2022 01:08, Vasudev Narayanan escreveu:

Greetings Olivier

The link to Base 7.3 image (Books Section: 
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/) is 
pointing to Draw v7.3 guide. It might need your intervention.


Regards

-Dev


On 07/06/22 23:44, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello Team

The Base Guide 7.3 Revision 0 is now published and available for 
download.


https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/
https://books.libreoffice.org/en/

The book is an update from the Base Guide 7.2, reviewed and enhanced 
by Steve Fanning, Robert Großkopf, Vasudev Narayanan and flywire.


The book was created using a master document and chapters were 
adjusted to fit the master document specifics. In particular, we 
wrapped the copyright section and the Table of Contents of each 
chapter is a section that is hidden when build in the master document. 
The PDF and the ODT file were exported directly from the master document.


The Base Guide team reviewed and updated the Guide in a continuous 
mode (time based) and the Revision 1 (7.3 final) is scheduled for end 
of July 2022. After that, the Base Guide team will continue the work 
under the title Base Guide 7.4.


The team and the volunteers are now invited to pick the published 
chapter and update, following the standard rules of revision 
(track-changes, file naming convention, etc...) and upload it in the 
folder /Published-Rev1/) for later publication. By end of July, I'll 
pick the updates and rebuild the book.


The control sŕeadsheet is now Guide Status BG73-Rev1.ods

Kind regards





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Olivier,

Thank you for publishing this version of the document.

I am interested in reviewing / updating Chapter 3 (Tables) and have put 
my initials against it in the tracking spreadsheet. This chapter makes 
use of the Media_without_Macros.odb database and, in case it needs some 
updates for better figures or any other reason, I have added that item 
to the spreadsheet and placed my initials against it.


I'm not sure how long my work on these two items will take and have 
reflected that in the spreadsheet too.


Regards,

Steve


On 07/06/2022 19:14, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello Team

The Base Guide 7.3 Revision 0 is now published and available for 
download.


https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/
https://books.libreoffice.org/en/

The book is an update from the Base Guide 7.2, reviewed and enhanced 
by Steve Fanning, Robert Großkopf, Vasudev Narayanan and flywire.


The book was created using a master document and chapters were 
adjusted to fit the master document specifics. In particular, we 
wrapped the copyright section and the Table of Contents of each 
chapter is a section that is hidden when build in the master document. 
The PDF and the ODT file were exported directly from the master document.


The Base Guide team reviewed and updated the Guide in a continuous 
mode (time based) and the Revision 1 (7.3 final) is scheduled for end 
of July 2022. After that, the Base Guide team will continue the work 
under the title Base Guide 7.4.


The team and the volunteers are now invited to pick the published 
chapter and update, following the standard rules of revision 
(track-changes, file naming convention, etc...) and upload it in the 
folder /Published-Rev1/) for later publication. By end of July, I'll 
pick the updates and rebuild the book.


The control sŕeadsheet is now Guide Status BG73-Rev1.ods

Kind regards



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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 is published

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Team

The Base Guide 7.3 Revision 0 is now published and available for download.

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/
https://books.libreoffice.org/en/

The book is an update from the Base Guide 7.2, reviewed and enhanced by 
Steve Fanning, Robert Großkopf, Vasudev Narayanan and flywire.


The book was created using a master document and chapters were adjusted 
to fit the master document specifics. In particular, we wrapped the 
copyright section and the Table of Contents of each chapter is a section 
that is hidden when build in the master document. The PDF and the ODT 
file were exported directly from the master document.


The Base Guide team reviewed and updated the Guide in a continuous mode 
(time based) and the Revision 1 (7.3 final) is scheduled for end of July 
2022. After that, the Base Guide team will continue the work under the 
title Base Guide 7.4.


The team and the volunteers are now invited to pick the published 
chapter and update, following the standard rules of revision 
(track-changes, file naming convention, etc...) and upload it in the 
folder /Published-Rev1/) for later publication. By end of July, I'll 
pick the updates and rebuild the book.


The control sŕeadsheet is now Guide Status BG73-Rev1.ods

Kind regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.2 Chapter "List Box"

[Olivier Hallot]

Fixed
Thanks for the Heads-up
Regards
Olivier

Em 30/05/2022 05:56, Robert Großkopf escreveu:

Hi Steve,


Just to clarify, I think that you are referring to Chapter 4 Forms. 
Between Figures 16 and 17 (page 23 in the chapter file), there is a 
list item entitled "Events tab". At the end of that item is the text 
"List box", which should be a heading on a new line, with the Heading 
3 style.


Exactly. I have seen this while there was a post for Listboxes in 
ask.libreoffice and couldn't find this header, special in online version 
of Base Guide 7.2.
See https://books.libreoffice.org/en/BG72/BG7204-Forms.html on the left 
- no list box appears.


Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.2 Chapter "List Box"

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Steve,


Just to clarify, I think that you are referring to Chapter 4 Forms. 
Between Figures 16 and 17 (page 23 in the chapter file), there is a list 
item entitled "Events tab". At the end of that item is the text "List 
box", which should be a heading on a new line, with the Heading 3 style.


Exactly. I have seen this while there was a post for Listboxes in 
ask.libreoffice and couldn't find this header, special in online version 
of Base Guide 7.2.
See https://books.libreoffice.org/en/BG72/BG7204-Forms.html on the left 
- no list box appears.


Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.2 Chapter "List Box"

[Steve Fanning]

Hi All,

Thanks for that Robert.

Just to clarify, I think that you are referring to Chapter 4 Forms. 
Between Figures 16 and 17 (page 23 in the chapter file), there is a list 
item entitled "Events tab". At the end of that item is the text "List 
box", which should be a heading on a new line, with the Heading 3 style.


Olivier, this problem still exists in the file in the Published folder. 
Would it be possible to correct it before final publication?


Regards,

Steve


On 29/05/2022 16:08, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi *,

looking or the chapter "List Box" (Forms → Form Properties → 
Properties of controls → List Box).
Content is there, but header appers at the end of chapter "Formatted 
field" in Base Guide 7.2. So it won't appear as separate entry.

Hope it will be corrected in Base Guide 7.3

Regards

Robert


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.2 Chapter "List Box"

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi *,

looking or the chapter "List Box" (Forms → Form Properties → Properties 
of controls → List Box).
Content is there, but header appers at the end of chapter "Formatted 
field" in Base Guide 7.2. So it won't appear as separate entry.

Hope it will be corrected in Base Guide 7.3

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Flywire

We will let readers check SQLite and report if anything goes bad.

Regards
Olivier


Em 14/05/2022 11:37, flywire escreveu:

Requesting again someone other than Steve or myself (ideally a typical
uninformed user) to test the SQLite install on a clean Windows system (ie
without an ODBC driver installed or any ODBC Data Source Names configured).
There are no instructions given in the linked Windows driver documentation
to create an ODBC Data Source Name (DSN).

Wiki reference:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/Base/Connect_to_SQLite



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

[flywire]

Tweaking the template can resolve almost all code colorization presentation
issues as explained below. (Process issues can be worked on separately.)

Key findings:
* Process is a bit of a black art
* LibreOffice_7.x_Template.ott has no Character Styles for colored computer
code
* Code Colorizer Formatter
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/71 is used but an
extension bug ignores the configuration dialog Font name, Text sizes and
Tab width
* Fortunately, the extension does not define styles defined in a document
* The Getting Started Guide 7.3 code looks good but Character Styles for
colored code seem to have been manually reformatted
* Adhoc processes will continue to occur in the absence of a standard
process as demonstrated in the Getting Started Guide 7.3 which essentially
duplicates character style trees with _LOCodeBase and OOoComputerCode

Suggested template workaround changes for existing extension:
* Use Paragraph Style Code Font Size of 10pt (extension mixes sizes and end
of line comment bug affects following line)
* Use Paragraph Style Code Spacing Do not add spacing to paragraphs of the
same style (reduces BG7309 page count by 15% and looks better)
* Use Character Style OOoComputerCode parent of Code (to carry style
through as intended)
* Character Style Code descendants must only configure color

Furthermore, define the following Character Styles in the Documentation
template instead of the extension:
OOoComputerCode
_OOoComputerBase
_OOoComputerComment  Grey
_OOoComputerBaseNoLocale
_OOoComputerSpecial
_OOoComputerLiteral  Red
_OOoComputerNumber   Red
_OOoComputerKeyWord  Blue
_OOoComputerAltKeyWord   Blue
_OOoComputerIdentGreen

The LibreOffice color palette should be used, for example, assuming no
color shades: (Grey), Orange Accent, Blue 1, Green 1. Other styles might be
needed for Bash, SQL, Java, and XML.

>
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 9:23 AM Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
>
>> Documentation Team Meeting Minutes March 31st 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
>> ... Code Colorizing:
>>  [3/31 - VN]: -
>> As the developer community uses Writer and Impress to communicate code
>> snippets with their peers, code highlighting or colorizing is a
>> beneficial feature.
>> Enhancing existing features in Writer (Styles -> Source Text) to include
>> colorizing and indentation can be the starting point. However, this
>> requires UI and Engineering team to take it forward.
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[flywire]

Requesting again someone other than Steve or myself (ideally a typical
uninformed user) to test the SQLite install on a clean Windows system (ie
without an ODBC driver installed or any ODBC Data Source Names configured).
There are no instructions given in the linked Windows driver documentation
to create an ODBC Data Source Name (DSN).

Wiki reference:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/Base/Connect_to_SQLite

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Team

I have reviewed and published BG7302-CreatingADatabase (actually it was 
named BG7402 in WIP folder, fixed)


I also reviewed and published BG7303 Tables, BG7306 Reports and BG7307 
Linking to Databases.


I am revising BG7308 Database tasks, after Dev review and remarks.  As 
side note, Dev's remarks made me fix a dialog and Help page in source 
code related to Direct SQL statements. Thanks Dev!


So we are left with BG7308 (me) and BG7305 (Pulkit) to finish the Base 
Guide 7.3.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Steve Fanning]

Hi flywire,

Thanks for the comments, which I have reviewed and actioned as appropriate.

I have rejected:

•    Some comments that seem to be simply changing the order of words in 
sentences that already seem reasonably well structured and clear.


•    Comments that propose adding more detail about the process of 
downloading and installing an ODBC driver, and then creating an ODBC 
data source name (DSN). I have deliberately assumed that this has little 
to do with Base and is, or should be, described in the documentation for 
the relevant ODBC driver. If these actions are not described adequately 
in a particular example of a driver’s documentation, then it might be 
better to propose improvements there rather than trying to rectify the 
problem in the Base Guide.


I have updated the date in the file name and returned the chapter to the 
NextCloud WIP folder, moving previous versions to the Archived folder.


Having spent a fair amount of time already on this chapter, I will leave 
others to process any further comments raised by any reviewers.


Regards,

Steve


On 04/05/2022 12:54, flywire wrote:

This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter -
BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder.

The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of
good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and
includes the SQLite database.

I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to create
this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example.
Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with tracked
changes. The intention is for discussion.

My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple SQLite
database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being
guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with
exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't
keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should really
be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite which is
well down the list.

I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are
referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users
leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The alternative
would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to
the more complex.

The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate parts
which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for
Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver
installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC
connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and vary by
OS.

Regards



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Steve
Yes please.
Kind regards
Olivier

Em 04/05/2022 20:07, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hello all.

Olivier, would you like me to take assess these comments?

Regards,

Steve


On 04/05/2022 12:54, flywire wrote:

This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter -
BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder.

The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of
good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and
includes the SQLite database.

I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to 
create

this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example.
Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with 
tracked

changes. The intention is for discussion.

My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple 
SQLite

database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being
guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with
exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't
keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should 
really
be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite 
which is

well down the list.

I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are
referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users
leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The 
alternative

would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to
the more complex.

The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate 
parts

which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for
Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver
installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC
connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and 
vary by

OS.

Regards





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Steve Fanning]

Hello all.

Olivier, would you like me to take assess these comments?

Regards,

Steve


On 04/05/2022 12:54, flywire wrote:

This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter -
BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder.

The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of
good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and
includes the SQLite database.

I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to create
this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example.
Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with tracked
changes. The intention is for discussion.

My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple SQLite
database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being
guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with
exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't
keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should really
be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite which is
well down the list.

I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are
referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users
leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The alternative
would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to
the more complex.

The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate parts
which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for
Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver
installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC
connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and vary by
OS.

Regards



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[flywire]

This is the first opportunity for feedback on the chapter -
BG7402-CreatingADatabase_SF_FW_04May2022.odt in WIP folder.

The revised chapter is well written and much easier to read with a lot of
good information. It's good to see it links the Getting Started Guide and
includes the SQLite database.

I'm most familiar with SQLite after working through it in detail to create
this section for the current guide so I've focused on it as an example.
Issues are noted in the comments and indicative text is given with tracked
changes. The intention is for discussion.

My overall view is the guide is too confusing for creating a simple SQLite
database. The SQLite process is fairly simple but it is confused by being
guided through a complicated install with links to many other places with
exceptions to follow. I'm very familiar with the process but I couldn't
keep track of the SQLite process using a pdf on a PC. Options should really
be tested with a few typical users, especially the likes of SQLite which is
well down the list.

I suggest a summary after each heading where other parts of the guide are
referred to for the details. This would likely be enough for many users
leaving the references for additional guidance as required. The alternative
would be to start with creating the simplest database and work through to
the more complex.

The connecting with ODBC Initial preparation has two clearly separate parts
which, to make it easier to navigate, need to be split under headings for
Install ODBC Driver and Configure database ODBC connection. ODBC driver
installation is generally well done but configuring database ODBC
connection refers to installation instructions that don't exist and vary by
OS.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Steve Fanning]

Hi All,

I have placed a proposed new version of Chapter 2 in the WIP folder, 
moving all previous versions of the chapter to the Archived folder. I 
hope it is an improvement.


The chapter has essentially been re-written and so I recommend that it 
be given a thorough review before issue. Because of the level of change 
throughout the chapter since the previous draft, changes are not tracked 
in the document.


I wasn't sure how to handle the reviews that have already been done on 
the previous version of the chapter within the tracking spreadsheet and 
so I did nothing. Perhaps Olivier could handle that as he sees fit.


Many thanks to Robert Großkopf for his assistance and advice during my 
work on this chapter.


Regards,

Steve


On 03/05/2022 22:43, Olivier Hallot wrote:

HI Steve

PLease add it to the WIP folder, as usual.

Regards
Olivier

Em 03/05/2022 17:13, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hi Olivier,

I have at last finished the time-consuming task of (hopefully) 
improving Chapter 2!


Where in NextCloud would you prefer me to place the updated file for 
its review? If I place it in the Base Guide > 7.3 folder then there 
might be an expectation that we will include this new file in the 
first iteration of the 7.3 BG. A proper review of the chapter (which 
has essentially been re-written) could take some time. Shall I put it 
in a new folder structure called something like Base Guide > 7.3 R2?


Regards,

Steve







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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3: Deadline set May 31st and Chapter BG7310

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi team

I'm setting May 31st as the deadline to publish the Base Guide 7.3, with 
the available revisions at the date.


The file BG7310-DatabaseMaintenance_SF_VN_OH03May2022.odt had all SF and 
VN suggestions reviewed and committed. Then I set track changes enabled 
and added a couple of comments where I found the text unclear.


I also added BG7310-DatabaseMaintenance.odt to the Published-Rev0/ 
folder with my changes self-approved. If my comments in the WIP folder 
are addressed before may 31st, I'll replace the file in the 
/published-rev0/ folder.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Steve

PLease add it to the WIP folder, as usual.

Regards
Olivier

Em 03/05/2022 17:13, Steve Fanning escreveu:

Hi Olivier,

I have at last finished the time-consuming task of (hopefully) improving 
Chapter 2!


Where in NextCloud would you prefer me to place the updated file for its 
review? If I place it in the Base Guide > 7.3 folder then there might be 
an expectation that we will include this new file in the first iteration 
of the 7.3 BG. A proper review of the chapter (which has essentially 
been re-written) could take some time. Shall I put it in a new folder 
structure called something like Base Guide > 7.3 R2?


Regards,

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - New Chapter 2

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Olivier,

I have at last finished the time-consuming task of (hopefully) improving 
Chapter 2!


Where in NextCloud would you prefer me to place the updated file for its 
review? If I place it in the Base Guide > 7.3 folder then there might be 
an expectation that we will include this new file in the first iteration 
of the 7.3 BG. A proper review of the chapter (which has essentially 
been re-written) could take some time. Shall I put it in a new folder 
structure called something like Base Guide > 7.3 R2?


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Team

I have accepted all suggestions from flywire and udpated the 
Published-Rev0 folder.


- Code lines are now with "code" style (no need to overcomplicate things)
- Extra LiBo* paragraph styles removed.
- Fixes here and there.

Regards
Olivier


Em 13/04/2022 11:05, flywire escreveu:

I've updated the Base Guide Macro chapter BG7309, with the following
changes:
- resolved outstanding ScriptForge Demo python coding issues and
accompanying text
- reran syntax highlighting code
- updated to LibreOffice_7.x_Template

I couldn't resolve these template issues which need to be fixed:
- All code has extra space between the lines, template Paragraph style
"Code" seems to need "Do not add space between paragraphs of the same
style" option selected
- html renders code lines with coloured background but extra space between
lines as white (contrary to writer and pdf), setting above should fix
- all the code comments and text in strings are in size 10pt font and the
other code is 11pt
- will need a final check for orphan paragraphs which should be considered
within template styles

Inconsistencies in GS7313-GettingStartedWithMacros.odt with template:
- Basic code commonly (inconsistently) uses 10pt instead of 11pt in template
- code blocks have captions

The file is in WIP folder for further review with track changes enabled.

BG7309-Macros_SF_OH_FW_24Jan2022_13Apr2022.odt



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Team

I have accepted all suggestions from flywire and udpated the 
Published-Rev0 folder.


- Code lines are now with "code" style (no need to overcomplicate things)
- Extra LiBo* paragraph styles removed.
- Fixes here and there.

Regards
Olivier


Em 13/04/2022 11:05, flywire escreveu:

I've updated the Base Guide Macro chapter BG7309, with the following
changes:
- resolved outstanding ScriptForge Demo python coding issues and
accompanying text
- reran syntax highlighting code
- updated to LibreOffice_7.x_Template

I couldn't resolve these template issues which need to be fixed:
- All code has extra space between the lines, template Paragraph style
"Code" seems to need "Do not add space between paragraphs of the same
style" option selected
- html renders code lines with coloured background but extra space between
lines as white (contrary to writer and pdf), setting above should fix
- all the code comments and text in strings are in size 10pt font and the
other code is 11pt
- will need a final check for orphan paragraphs which should be considered
within template styles

Inconsistencies in GS7313-GettingStartedWithMacros.odt with template:
- Basic code commonly (inconsistently) uses 10pt instead of 11pt in template
- code blocks have captions

The file is in WIP folder for further review with track changes enabled.

BG7309-Macros_SF_OH_FW_24Jan2022_13Apr2022.odt



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide: Current Status?

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Pulkit

Welcome back !

Em 21/04/2022 08:25, Pulkit Krishna escreveu:

Hello Everybody,
For those of you who do not know me, I am Pulkit Krishna, the previous Base
Guide coordinator. I was unable to contribute anything for some time due to
some personal problems, but now I am back.

I had suggested a rewrite of Base Guide a few days before disappearing but
it seems the idea was abandoned due to lack of contributors. Reading the
mailing archive, I see that Steve took the role of coordinator (Thanks) and
proposed another plan, the one of step by step updating the guide. I think
that is a very good plan.


Steve is working on the chapter 2 of the Base Guide and I took the lead 
of the book. However I admit I have been flooded by other demands and I 
am late. Some of the chapters are published and I set a Master document 
to assemble the book continuously.


A lot has changed in the Documentation team since my last contributions and
I am confused by some changes and how they work. I will try to read the
mailing list archive and see what I can do. A new folder structure seems to
be used in Nextcloud and the tracking spreadsheet has also changed. The
template used for chapters was changing by the time I left and it has
changed completely. One thing that has not changed much is Base
itself . I will try to understand everything but I would be thankful if
someone would guide me if I do something wrong.


I don't think we did so many changes, the edit-revision process is still 
the same however we want to test if we publish our guides (Base being 
the first) in a continuous manner, "as is" and update it  indicating 
"revisions" in a periodic basis.


Like "Base Guide 7.3 Rev 1"
"Base Guide 7.3 Rev 2"
...



For now, I have taken BG7305-Queries for second review and the expected
return date is 26 April.


Thanks for that.


Side Note: I am getting a notice on Nextcloud - Group folder "LibreOffice
Documentation" is almost full (93%). I think this should go to infra but I
just added it here if somebody knows anything about it.


I also noticed that. It may require a housekeeping job by ourselves or 
it may also be a setting in Nextcloud installation. I'll jump in.


Pulkit Krishna


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide: Current Status?

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
For those of you who do not know me, I am Pulkit Krishna, the previous Base
Guide coordinator. I was unable to contribute anything for some time due to
some personal problems, but now I am back.

I had suggested a rewrite of Base Guide a few days before disappearing but
it seems the idea was abandoned due to lack of contributors. Reading the
mailing archive, I see that Steve took the role of coordinator (Thanks) and
proposed another plan, the one of step by step updating the guide. I think
that is a very good plan.

A lot has changed in the Documentation team since my last contributions and
I am confused by some changes and how they work. I will try to read the
mailing list archive and see what I can do. A new folder structure seems to
be used in Nextcloud and the tracking spreadsheet has also changed. The
template used for chapters was changing by the time I left and it has
changed completely. One thing that has not changed much is Base
itself . I will try to understand everything but I would be thankful if
someone would guide me if I do something wrong.

For now, I have taken BG7305-Queries for second review and the expected
return date is 26 April.

Side Note: I am getting a notice on Nextcloud - Group folder "LibreOffice
Documentation" is almost full (93%). I think this should go to infra but I
just added it here if somebody knows anything about it.

Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

[flywire]

I've updated the Base Guide Macro chapter BG7309, with the following
changes:
- resolved outstanding ScriptForge Demo python coding issues and
accompanying text
- reran syntax highlighting code
- updated to LibreOffice_7.x_Template

I couldn't resolve these template issues which need to be fixed:
- All code has extra space between the lines, template Paragraph style
"Code" seems to need "Do not add space between paragraphs of the same
style" option selected
- html renders code lines with coloured background but extra space between
lines as white (contrary to writer and pdf), setting above should fix
- all the code comments and text in strings are in size 10pt font and the
other code is 11pt
- will need a final check for orphan paragraphs which should be considered
within template styles

Inconsistencies in GS7313-GettingStartedWithMacros.odt with template:
- Basic code commonly (inconsistently) uses 10pt instead of 11pt in template
- code blocks have captions

The file is in WIP folder for further review with track changes enabled.

BG7309-Macros_SF_OH_FW_24Jan2022_13Apr2022.odt

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 Chapter 5

[Vikram Ghangurde]

Hello,

I have reviewed chapter 5 of Base Guide 7.3. I made some edits to the text
to improve clarity and fixed minor spelling/grammar errors.

Best,
Vikram

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 chapter 3

[Olivier Hallot]

HI Vikram

I reviewed your changes and updated the published chapter. My remarks 
were added to the file you uploaded. The master document and PDF are 
updated.


Thanks for the review and suggestions for better wording.

Kind regards
OLivier


Em 24/03/2022 23:31, Vikram Ghangurde escreveu:

Hello,

I have reviewed chapter 3 of Base Guide 7.3. I made some edits to the text
to improve clarity and fixed a few minor spelling/grammar errors.

Best,
Vikram



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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3 chapter 3

[Vikram Ghangurde]

Hello,

I have reviewed chapter 3 of Base Guide 7.3. I made some edits to the text
to improve clarity and fixed a few minor spelling/grammar errors.

Best,
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide BG7309 - Macros

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi all

I have reviewed the Base Guide Macro chapter BG7309, with the following 
additions


- Accepted all suggestions by Steve Fanning
- cleanup of anchors, frames, styles, Basic and Python code using Andrew 
Pitonyak source code coloring extension.
- Added section on ScriptForge by flywire (fixed typos and code 
formatting. A second review is advisable as some commented lines were 
left in the code)


The file is in WIP folder for further review with track changes enabled.

BG7309-Macros_SF_24Jan2022_OH_15Mar2022.odt

I also added a version in the Published folder and hooked to the master 
document. A temporary PDF was also updated.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.3: BG7312-AppendixB-CompareHSQLDBAndFirebird published

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi
Chapter is published

Master document is updated in Published/ folder.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Robert,

I don't believe that there is a problem.

We are just making sure that the two databases that we've updated (for 
the new Chapter 1 screenshots etc) are properly controlled.


I will liaise with him and let you know if any assistance is needed.

Regards,

Steve


On 10/01/2022 19:38, Robert Großkopf wrote:

Hi *,


I am uploading the updated version of "Media_without_Macros.odb" 
database file. I have addressed Task#1 and Task#5.


After looking at the database file, I understood you have taken care 
of #2, #3, #4 tasks. Thank you for that.


Du I understand it right? You wan't to correct the database like task 
2, 3 and 4 but don't know how?

Where have you uploaded the database? I will have a look at this problem.

Regards

Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi *,


I am uploading the updated version of "Media_without_Macros.odb" 
database file. I have addressed Task#1 and Task#5.


After looking at the database file, I understood you have taken care of 
#2, #3, #4 tasks. Thank you for that.


Du I understand it right? You wan't to correct the database like task 2, 
3 and 4 but don't know how?

Where have you uploaded the database? I will have a look at this problem.

Regards

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book

[Steve Fanning]

Hello everybody,

Dev has very kindly volunteered to look at the sample databases that are 
publicly availably and used throughout the Base Guide (BG).


While reviewing Chapter 1 of the BG I noticed a few problems with  the 
"Media_without_Macros.odb" database as follows. Dev, would you be able 
to correct these issues in your “master” version?


1. The name of the Adress table is spelt incorrectly (should be Address).
2. The relationships (at Tools > Relationships) don’t appear to be
   complete. For example, the Recall table should have a link to the
   Loan table; the Gender, rel_Reader_Schoolclass, and Gender tables
   should be linked to the Reader table.
3. On the Loan form, should “current Loan” have an uppercase “C”?
4. On the Loan form, when a reader has overdue media, then the string
   “Loan temporary locked!” is appended to the blue string in the
   middle of the form. Should this read “Loan temporarily locked!”?
5. The Recall report would probably benefit from some wording changes
   to improve its use of English (I can provide more detailed comments
   if needed).
6. The content of the data in the tables should be anglicized where
   appropriate.

Regards,

Steve




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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 72 master document

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Team

Seasons Greetings!

Since the fix on master documents by Michel Stahl from Allotropia [1], I 
managed to create a master document for the latest Base Guide, as an 
exercise, for my own.


The set of chapters are in the cloud at
/LibreOffice Documentation/English/Base 
Guide/7.2/Archived/BG72_Master_Doc.zip


I had to tweak a bit some missing parts from the original template for a 
master document. Actually a few.


- Cover and Back cover are new page styles with the covers as background 
PNG, respectively;


- Copyright and chapters TOC were wrapped in a section with hidden 
control activated by the master variable 'book eq 1'. Chapters don't 
have this variable, so Copyright and chapter TOC are visible, but hidden 
in Master document.
Trick: you cannot wrap an existing TOC in a outer section. You need to 
remove it, create the section and then add the TOC inside the section.


- Left some comments for next release, just remove them to get the full 
book as a PDF export directly from the MD.


I think that assembling a Guide with a master document is now a piece of 
cake.


Kind regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Jean Weber]

Steve,
Looks okay to me.
Jean

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:43 PM Steve Fanning
 wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have compiled the 7.2 Base Guide into one ODT file, and generated the
> PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud.
>
> All is ready for final checking before publication and hopefully Jean
> will still have time available to look at this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 05/12/2021 13:44, Steve Fanning wrote:
> > Hello everybody.
> >
> > I have moved the ODT and PDF files for all chapters of the 7.2 Base
> > Guide to the Published folder.
> >
> > Next I will collate the full book.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On 04/12/2021 11:24, Jean Weber wrote:
> >> Hi Steve,
> >> Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready.
> >> Jean
> >>
> >> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Jean,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With
> >>> regards to your question about the description of how the software
> >>> behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the
> >>> description to match that in the other books.
> >>>
> >>> I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter,
> >>> generate
> >>> chapter PDFs and compile the book.
> >>>
> >>> Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am
> >>> finished?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Steve Fanning]

Hello All,

I have compiled the 7.2 Base Guide into one ODT file, and generated the 
PDF for the book. All files are in the Published folder in NextCloud.


All is ready for final checking before publication and hopefully Jean 
will still have time available to look at this.


Regards,

Steve


On 05/12/2021 13:44, Steve Fanning wrote:

Hello everybody.

I have moved the ODT and PDF files for all chapters of the 7.2 Base 
Guide to the Published folder.


Next I will collate the full book.

Regards,

Steve


On 04/12/2021 11:24, Jean Weber wrote:

Hi Steve,
Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready.
Jean

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning 
wrote:


Hi Jean,

Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With
regards to your question about the description of how the software
behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the
description to match that in the other books.

I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, 
generate

chapter PDFs and compile the book.

Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am
finished?

Regards,

Steve


On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote:

Steve,
I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new
filename and updated the status spreadsheet.
Only minor suggestions, plus one question.
Jean

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

I’ll do it. -Jean

On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning 


wrote:

Hi All,

Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for

Base
Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - 
and has

lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.

It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.

Regards,

Steve







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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Steve Fanning]

Hello everybody.

I have moved the ODT and PDF files for all chapters of the 7.2 Base 
Guide to the Published folder.


Next I will collate the full book.

Regards,

Steve


On 04/12/2021 11:24, Jean Weber wrote:

Hi Steve,
Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready.
Jean

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning 
wrote:


Hi Jean,

Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With
regards to your question about the description of how the software
behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the
description to match that in the other books.

I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate
chapter PDFs and compile the book.

Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am
finished?

Regards,

Steve


On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote:

Steve,
I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new
filename and updated the status spreadsheet.
Only minor suggestions, plus one question.
Jean

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

I’ll do it. -Jean

On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning 

wrote:

Hi All,

Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for

Base

Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has
lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.

It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.

Regards,

Steve





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Jean Weber]

Hi Steve,
Yes, I expect to have time to check the compiled book when it’s ready.
Jean

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 20:32 Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With
> regards to your question about the description of how the software
> behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the
> description to match that in the other books.
>
> I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate
> chapter PDFs and compile the book.
>
> Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am
> finished?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote:
> > Steve,
> > I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new
> > filename and updated the status spreadsheet.
> > Only minor suggestions, plus one question.
> > Jean
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
> >> I’ll do it. -Jean
> >>
> >> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning 
> wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for
> Base
> >>> Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has
> >>> lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.
> >>>
> >>> It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
> >>> BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Steve Fanning]

Hi Jean,

Thank you for that review - I have accepted all your suggestions. With 
regards to your question about the description of how the software 
behaves when the offline help isn't installed, I have reverted the 
description to match that in the other books.


I will now take a little time to check layouts of each chapter, generate 
chapter PDFs and compile the book.


Would you be prepared to cast your eye over the compiled book when I am 
finished?


Regards,

Steve


On 03/12/2021 23:43, Jean Weber wrote:

Steve,
I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new
filename and updated the status spreadsheet.
Only minor suggestions, plus one question.
Jean

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber  wrote:

I’ll do it. -Jean

On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning  wrote:

Hi All,

Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base
Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has
lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.

It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.

Regards,

Steve



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Jean Weber]

Steve,
I have checked, commented, and returned the Preface with a new
filename and updated the status spreadsheet.
Only minor suggestions, plus one question.
Jean

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:50 PM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
> I’ll do it. -Jean
>
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning  
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base
>> Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has
>> lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.
>>
>> It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
>> BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Jean Weber]

I’ll do it. -Jean

On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 20:04 Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base
> Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has
> lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.
>
> It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name
> BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - updated Preface

[Steve Fanning]

Hi All,

Please would somebody review the updated Preface that I propose for Base 
Guide 7.2? It isn't lengthy - 10 pages including front matter - and has 
lots of boilerplate material common to all guides.


It is in the Work in Progress folder, file name 
BG7200-Preface_SF_03Dec2021.odt.


Regards,

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 7.0 outline

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello everybody, Dan,
I have uploaded an outline of base guide 7.0 in 7.0 folder of Base Guide folder 
on Nextcloud. Please give any suggestion/Feedback you have. I will wait till 24 
August and after that I will start working on chapter 1- Introducing Base.

Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Preface v7.0 Review

[Dan Lewis]

Make sure that  Edit > Track Changes > Record is checked. Then make the 
changes you want to make. You can also explain why you think the change 
should be made in comment-forms of the document. When you save the 
document, it will contain the original text and your changes. The author 
can then check what you have done and either accept or reject your changes.


Dan

On 7/14/20 14:57, Samantha Hamilton wrote:

Hello, LO Docs Team,

A quick question. I've read through the V7.0 Base guide revision (as per
Annie Nguyen's email, found in the Feedback folder), and I have some
syntactic and copyediting suggestions. Since this is my first official
document contribution, I was wondering if you prefer having edits sent
directly to this email? or in comment-form on the document?

Thank you!
Regards,
Sam

   Samantha Hamilton
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Preface v7.0 Review

[Samantha Hamilton]

Hello, LO Docs Team,

A quick question. I've read through the V7.0 Base guide revision (as per
Annie Nguyen's email, found in the Feedback folder), and I have some
syntactic and copyediting suggestions. Since this is my first official
document contribution, I was wondering if you prefer having edits sent
directly to this email? or in comment-form on the document?

Thank you!
Regards,
Sam

  Samantha Hamilton
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Preface v7.0 Review #1 Complete

[annie.tp.nguyen]

Hi all,

 

I completed a first pass review of the v7.0 Base guide. Minor edits + style
updated to match the v7.0 template. I've uploaded it to the Feedback folder.

 

Thanks,

Annie

 


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 Chapter 8

[Jenna Sargent]

Hi all,

I've completed the review of Chapter 8 of the Base guide on Database Tasks.
It is now in the feedback folder.

Best,
Jenna Sargent

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 10 - back from review into feedback folder w/1 edit

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

Finished reading over Chapter 10 this afternoon. I did make one edit
to the file and that was to pretty much replace the next to last
paragraph talking about performance problems with HSQLdb and referring
to issues from version 3.5, then that those issues were fixed in 4.1
and it just seems like that should all go away for a version 6.4
release.

What I added was a general comment about performance issues and when
to look at moving from the embedded database to a server based system.

BG6410-DatabaseMaintenance_PK_JS_PK_DJ_24June2020.odt is in the feedback folder.

Drew

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 10

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

Grabbed Chapter 10 Maintenance for the 2nd Review - expected return, the 25th.

Drew

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 7

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

Uploaded the file BG6407-Linking_in_Databases_PK_DJ_21June2020.odt to
the feedback folder with two minor issues. One fixed a typo (tracked
change added) and the other about the screenshot of the data source
toolbar. One of the toolbar buttons text changed - it is explained in
a comment.

One issue however - the last part of the chapter required use of a
third party tool pdftk to extract form data from a PDF file. The pdftk
software offers binaries for Windows and RedHat/CentOS Linux only. I
tried first to install it on my Ubuntu 18.04 machine using the alien
tool to change package format from .rpm to .deb, and this did allow a
successful install but unsuccessful execution complaining about a
missing required file - I then tried to compile it from the source and
ran into a missing dependency (it appears that matches the runtime
error), as of right now I don't have a solution for that - so I'll put
that file up today as my review, with this caveat that I couldn't
actually check if that macro works with pdftk.

Drew

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[libreoffice-documentation] BASE Guide 6.2 PDF

[Sam Mac Kenzie]

Just to let you know on" page 19, Figure 5: Relationship between the loan
and reader tables image" is missing.

Regards

Sam Mac Kenzie
Ph: +61 419253368

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 & EPUB of v6.2

[Jean Weber]

Done. In Feedback folder.
Jean

On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 14:46 Jean Weber  wrote:

> Yes, I will look at The formatting of Chapter 2.
> Jean
>
> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 13:15 Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> I have accepted all changes
>> made by Dan to chapter 2 and moved the file back to Drafts folder.
>>
>> Jean: Can you see to the formatting of chapter 2?
>>
>> Pulkit Krishna
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 & EPUB of v6.2

[Jean Weber]

Yes, I will look at The formatting of Chapter 2.
Jean

On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 13:15 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
> I have uploaded the first drafts of all the remaining chapters
> (7,8,10,11&12) of Base Guide 6.4 to the Drafts folder. For last few days I
> did not had good Internet connection, so I was unable to upload them. I
> have moved chapter 0,1 & 9 to Published folder. I have accepted all changes
> made by Dan to chapter 2 and moved the file back to Drafts folder.
>
> Jean: Can you see to the formatting of chapter 2?
>
> As for the EPUB file of Base Guide 6.2, I have moved it to the published
> folder and have uploaded it to the wiki. Maybe it should also be linked in
> the main Documentation website(I am not sure if EPUB versions are linked
> there).
>
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 & EPUB of v6.2

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have uploaded the first drafts of all the remaining chapters
(7,8,10,11&12) of Base Guide 6.4 to the Drafts folder. For last few days I
did not had good Internet connection, so I was unable to upload them. I
have moved chapter 0,1 & 9 to Published folder. I have accepted all changes
made by Dan to chapter 2 and moved the file back to Drafts folder.

Jean: Can you see to the formatting of chapter 2?

As for the EPUB file of Base Guide 6.2, I have moved it to the published
folder and have uploaded it to the wiki. Maybe it should also be linked in
the main Documentation website(I am not sure if EPUB versions are linked
there).

Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 - Reviewer Needed

[Jean Weber]

I have checked (and corrected, as needed) the formatting in the
Preface and Chapters 1 and 9. The files are in the Feedback folder.
Jean

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:54 PM Pulkit Krishna
 wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
> The base Guide 6.4 is progressing well. I have updated chapter 0-6 ad chapter 
> 9. I am working on chapter 7. Dan has done the review of chapter 0 & 1. He is 
> currently working on the epub version of base guide 6.2. It would be best if 
> someone will review the rest chapters. The sooner we complete the 6.4 
> version, we will get more time for v7.0.
>
> Pulkit Krisha

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 - Reviewer Needed

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
The base Guide 6.4 is progressing well. I have updated chapter 0-6 ad chapter 
9. I am working on chapter 7. Dan has done the review of chapter 0 & 1. He is 
currently working on the epub version of base guide 6.2. It would be best if 
someone will review the rest chapters. The sooner we complete the 6.4 version, 
we will get more time for v7.0.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4 Reviews

[Dan Lewis]

I have uploaded BG6400 Preface to the feedback folder with my comment, 
strong opinion.


I have also downloaded BG6401 Introduction to Base. ETA its return is in 
5 days. The Guide Status has been updated.


Dan


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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.4

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
The first few chapters of Base Guide 6.4 is ready for review. Only 1 review
is needed for them as they have not changed much. Anybody, please take them
for review.

I said in one of my las emails that I will send a separate email
regarding my plans about 7.0 book but now I have decided that I will write
an odt document on it and upload it to nextcloud in base folder.
Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.2 Published!

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello Team, Pulkit

Congrats for the achievement !

I have added the Base Guide to the documentation website:

https://documentation.libreoffice.org

Regards
Olivier

Em 04/05/2020 02:49, Pulkit Krishna escreveu:
> Hello Everybody,
> At last Base Guide 6.2 has been published. I have uploaded the complete
> book as well as the separate chapters to the wiki. They can be downloaded
> from:-
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
> 
> Oliver, Can you put the book on the main LibreOffice website?
> Pulkit Krishna
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.2 Published!

[Mike Saunders]

Hi everyone,

Great work! I've blogged about it here:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/04/announcing-the-libreoffice-base-guide-6-2/

I'll spread the word on social media, Reddit, Telegram etc. now too.

Cheers,
Mike


On 04/05/2020 07:49, Pulkit Krishna wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
> At last Base Guide 6.2 has been published. I have uploaded the complete
> book as well as the separate chapters to the wiki. They can be downloaded
> from:-
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
> 
> Oliver, Can you put the book on the main LibreOffice website?
> Pulkit Krishna
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.2 Published!

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
At last Base Guide 6.2 has been published. I have uploaded the complete
book as well as the separate chapters to the wiki. They can be downloaded
from:-

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide

Oliver, Can you put the book on the main LibreOffice website?
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide ch 7 report and more

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Dan,

>
>> > I have also downloaded chapter 8, Getting Started with Base. I
>> > should finish this by Tuesday evening (2000UTC). I did not find any
>> > place in the Status spreadsheet to place this information.
>>
>>  You should add your info on the row under the one for that chapter. The
chapter has gone through a review process, but someone said that it should
go through the process again. I will take it for second review after you
are done with it.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide ch 7 report and more

[Pulkit Krishna]

There is a bug. It does not work on ubuntu also.

On 30 Apr 2020 2:23 a.m., "Jean Weber"  wrote:

> Comments below.
>
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 03:42 Dan Lewis  wrote:
>
> > I have gone as far as I can go with mail merge. The only problem
> > that I can not solve is with Step 4 of the mail merge wizard, Create a
> > salutation. As long as I uncheck the box for a personal salutation, it
> > works fine. Otherwise I get an two lines when there should only be one:
> >
> > Dear Mr. x,
> > Dear Mrs. x,
> >
>
> This happened to me, too, using 6.4 on MacOS. I didn’t try hidden
> paragraphs.
> Jean
>
>
> > Hidden paragraphs do not work either. This is for LibreOffice 6.2, 6.3,
> > and 6.4 (6.4.3.2). There is a bug #118861 that involves this problem. I
> > wonder if using the Debian version has anything to do with this.
> >
> > So, I have uploaded the file into the feedback folder with a comment in
> > that section. The Guide Status file has been updated. Someone else needs
> > to look through all of the recorded changes I have made to this file.
> >
> > I have also downloaded chapter 8, Getting Started with Base. I
> > should finish this by Tuesday evening (2000UTC). I did not find any
> > place in the Status spreadsheet to place this information.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide ch 7 report and more

[Jean Weber]

Comments below.

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 03:42 Dan Lewis  wrote:

> I have gone as far as I can go with mail merge. The only problem
> that I can not solve is with Step 4 of the mail merge wizard, Create a
> salutation. As long as I uncheck the box for a personal salutation, it
> works fine. Otherwise I get an two lines when there should only be one:
>
> Dear Mr. x,
> Dear Mrs. x,
>

This happened to me, too, using 6.4 on MacOS. I didn’t try hidden
paragraphs.
Jean


> Hidden paragraphs do not work either. This is for LibreOffice 6.2, 6.3,
> and 6.4 (6.4.3.2). There is a bug #118861 that involves this problem. I
> wonder if using the Debian version has anything to do with this.
>
> So, I have uploaded the file into the feedback folder with a comment in
> that section. The Guide Status file has been updated. Someone else needs
> to look through all of the recorded changes I have made to this file.
>
> I have also downloaded chapter 8, Getting Started with Base. I
> should finish this by Tuesday evening (2000UTC). I did not find any
> place in the Status spreadsheet to place this information.
>
> Dan
>
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide ch 7 report and more

[Dan Lewis]

   I have gone as far as I can go with mail merge. The only problem 
that I can not solve is with Step 4 of the mail merge wizard, Create a 
salutation. As long as I uncheck the box for a personal salutation, it 
works fine. Otherwise I get an two lines when there should only be one:


Dear Mr. x,
Dear Mrs. x,

Hidden paragraphs do not work either. This is for LibreOffice 6.2, 6.3, 
and 6.4 (6.4.3.2). There is a bug #118861 that involves this problem. I 
wonder if using the Debian version has anything to do with this.


So, I have uploaded the file into the feedback folder with a comment in 
that section. The Guide Status file has been updated. Someone else needs 
to look through all of the recorded changes I have made to this file.


   I have also downloaded chapter 8, Getting Started with Base. I 
should finish this by Tuesday evening (2000UTC). I did not find any 
place in the Status spreadsheet to place this information.


Dan



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.2 Chapter 01 IntroductiontoBase: missing table in sample Database

[Rob Westein]

Hi,

I found it (I think): table "Preferences" is the "Settings" table 
mentioned in the text.

This has to be corrected in the Guide.

/Rob


On 12-04-2020 13:38, Rob Westein wrote:

Hi,

For the dutch documentation team I'm reading the into dutch translated 
chapter "Introduction to Base". I use the English translation as 
reference.


Now, on top of page 9 (of the english translation) it says "The 
Extension field contains information about extensions of the loan for 
an item. The meaning of the values 1, 2... is explained later. The 
database contains a separate table with the label Settings."


In the sample databases  Media_without_macros.odb and 
Media_with_macros.odb I cannot find the Table Settings.


When I look into the german sample Database "Medien_Ohne_Makros.odb"  
I find table "Einstellungen" but this table "Settings" is not 
available in the English sample databases


Did I mis something?

/Rob






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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide 6.2 Chapter 01 IntroductiontoBase: missing table in sample Database

[Rob Westein]

Hi,

For the dutch documentation team I'm reading the into dutch translated 
chapter "Introduction to Base". I use the English translation as reference.


Now, on top of page 9 (of the english translation) it says "The 
Extension field contains information about extensions of the loan for an 
item. The meaning of the values 1, 2... is explained later. The database 
contains a separate table with the label Settings."


In the sample databases  Media_without_macros.odb and 
Media_with_macros.odb I cannot find the Table Settings.


When I look into the german sample Database "Medien_Ohne_Makros.odb"  I 
find table "Einstellungen" but this table "Settings" is not available in 
the English sample databases


Did I mis something?

/Rob




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] BASE GUIDE CORDINATOR

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Oliver,
Thank you for your message. Currently, the base guide has been translated
from its german version. I have translated all the chapters. I think now
that we will have a base guide 6.2, we english contributors can update it
for version 6.4 and further versions by ourselves. We do not need to
translate from german anymore. We can take content from german
handbauch time to time as Robert is much better than me in base but I do no
think that we should be completely dependent on only the german version of
base guide for translating into English. 4 chapters are left to be
reviewed for version 6.2. After that it would be ready to be published. Out
of those two, Dan and Drew have taken 2 for their review. Randolph, a new
volunteer, has agreed to review the left two. So I think that base guide
6.2 is going to be published soon. After that we can update it to version
6.4. There is not much to do as base has not changed much but I have
decided to add some more information to it and update all the screenshots
(the screenshots are a bit old) with the help of Rob.
Pulkit Krishna


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>
> Everyone in the team is eligible.
>
> It will be nice to know your visions and plans for the Base guide.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Em 10/04/2020 04:51, Pulkit Krishna escreveu:
> > I don't know if I am eligible  but I can be the base guide cordinator.
> >
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] BASE GUIDE CORDINATOR

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Pulkit

Everyone in the team is eligible.

It will be nice to know your visions and plans for the Base guide.

Kind regards

Em 10/04/2020 04:51, Pulkit Krishna escreveu:
> I don't know if I am eligible  but I can be the base guide cordinator.
> 
> Pulkit Krishna
> 

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[Pulkit Krishna]

I don't know if I am eligible  but I can be the base guide cordinator.

Pulkit Krishna

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Cordinator

[Pulkit Krishna]

I don'the know if I am eligible but I can be the base guide cordinator.


Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
Can anyone take Appendix A and B for their respective second reviews? I
don't think they need much editing now. But a second review is necessary.
Pulkit Krishna


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean,
> You should take chapter 9 for second review not first. That way you can
> make sure everything is in correct formatting. Let anyone else with a
> knowledge of macros take it for first review.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:23 AM Jean Weber  wrote:
>
>> I have time to fix the styles and formatting in chapter 9, Macros, but I
>> don’t know enough about macros to review the content.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 15:20  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Pulkit
>> >
>> > I do not have much knowlegde of Base and also no affinity with it.
>> > So I do not no if I am the one to review a chapter of the Base Guide.
>> >
>> > Greetings, Kees
>> >
>> > Pulkit Krishna schreef op 04.04.2020 12:50:
>> > > Hello Kees,
>> > > Steve said that he can't take macros chapter of base guide for review.
>> > > I
>> > > hope you can take it. (See my previous email).
>> > > Pulkit Krishna
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Pulkit Krishna
>> > > 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I know that Robert but Drew has taken the file for around 20-25 days
>> > >> and
>> > >> he is not answering to any of my emails. I think he is busy.
>> > >> Pulkit Krishna
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM Robert Großkopf
>> > >> 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Pulkit,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have
>> the
>> > >>> > review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done
>> the
>> > >>> first
>> > >>> > and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started
>> guide.
>> > >>> Can
>> > >>> > you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
>> > >>> written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros,
>> > >>> because
>> > >>> I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> don't need to use this feature.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Robert
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Homepage: https://www.familiegrosskopf.de/robert
>> > >>>
>> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Jean Weber]

I have time to fix the styles and formatting in chapter 9, Macros, but I
don’t know enough about macros to review the content.

Jean

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 15:20  wrote:

> Hi Pulkit
>
> I do not have much knowlegde of Base and also no affinity with it.
> So I do not no if I am the one to review a chapter of the Base Guide.
>
> Greetings, Kees
>
> Pulkit Krishna schreef op 04.04.2020 12:50:
> > Hello Kees,
> > Steve said that he can't take macros chapter of base guide for review.
> > I
> > hope you can take it. (See my previous email).
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Pulkit Krishna
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I know that Robert but Drew has taken the file for around 20-25 days
> >> and
> >> he is not answering to any of my emails. I think he is busy.
> >> Pulkit Krishna
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM Robert Großkopf
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Pulkit,
> >>>
> >>> > I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
> >>> > review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the
> >>> first
> >>> > and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide.
> >>> Can
> >>> > you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?
> >>>
> >>> Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
> >>> written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros,
> >>> because
> >>> I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access
> >>> and
> >>> don't need to use this feature.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>> --
> >>> Homepage: https://www.familiegrosskopf.de/robert
> >>>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[kees538]

Hi Pulkit

I do not have much knowlegde of Base and also no affinity with it.
So I do not no if I am the one to review a chapter of the Base Guide.

Greetings, Kees

Pulkit Krishna schreef op 04.04.2020 12:50:

Hello Kees,
Steve said that he can't take macros chapter of base guide for review. 
I

hope you can take it. (See my previous email).
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Pulkit Krishna 


wrote:

I know that Robert but Drew has taken the file for around 20-25 days 
and

he is not answering to any of my emails. I think he is busy.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM Robert Großkopf 


wrote:


Hi Pulkit,

> I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
> review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the
first
> and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide.
Can
> you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?

Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros, 
because
I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access 
and

don't need to use this feature.

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Robert,
I know that but Drew has taken the file for around 20-25 days and he is not
answering to any of my emails. I think he is busy.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM Robert Großkopf 
wrote:

> Hi Pulkit,
>
> > I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
> > review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the
> first
> > and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide. Can
> > you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?
>
> Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
> written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros, because
> I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access and
> don't need to use this feature.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Kees,
Steve said that he can't take macros chapter of base guide for review. I
hope you can take it. (See my previous email).
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> I know that Robert but Drew has taken the file for around 20-25 days and
> he is not answering to any of my emails. I think he is busy.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:52 PM Robert Großkopf 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pulkit,
>>
>> > I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
>> > review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the
>> first
>> > and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide.
>> Can
>> > you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?
>>
>> Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
>> written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros, because
>> I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access and
>> don't need to use this feature.
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Steve,
No problem. Hope Kees can do it.
Pulkit Krishna


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:45 PM Steve Fanning 
wrote:

> Pulkit,
>
> I'm sorry but I am not able to take on that task at present.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pulkit Krishna
> Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:41 AM
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide
>
> Hello Every body,
> I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
> review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the first
> and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide. Can
> you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?
>
> @Dan:
> Have you completed the second review of chapter DB connections? If you have
> then you can upload it to feedback folder. Or else if you have not
> completed the kindly update the spreadsheet as you have given 31st march as
> expected return date and today is 4th April.
>
> @Everybody:
> Can anyone have a second review of Appendix A and B?
>
> Thank You
> Pulkit Krishna
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Pulkit,

> I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
> review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the first
> and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide. Can
> you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?

Drew wanted to add content to the chapter about Access2Base. I have
written only a few rows about this possibility to create macros, because
I don't know anything about macros in Windows and macros in Access and
don't need to use this feature.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Steve Fanning]

Pulkit,

I'm sorry but I am not able to take on that task at present.

Regards,

Steve


-Original Message- 
From: Pulkit Krishna

Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 8:41 AM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

Hello Every body,
I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the first
and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide. Can
you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?

@Dan:
Have you completed the second review of chapter DB connections? If you have
then you can upload it to feedback folder. Or else if you have not
completed the kindly update the spreadsheet as you have given 31st march as
expected return date and today is 4th April.

@Everybody:
Can anyone have a second review of Appendix A and B?

Thank You
Pulkit Krishna

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Every body,
I think that Drew is extremely busy at the moment and cannot have the
review of chapter 9 macros. I see that Stephen and Kees had done the first
and second review of the macros chapter of the getting started guide. Can
you both please also review the macros chapter of Base guide?

@Dan:
Have you completed the second review of chapter DB connections? If you have
then you can upload it to feedback folder. Or else if you have not
completed the kindly update the spreadsheet as you have given 31st march as
expected return date and today is 4th April.

@Everybody:
Can anyone have a second review of Appendix A and B?

Thank You
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide WiP

[Drew Jensen]

WiP = Work in Progress

and that is under Macros, not Base, btw

Anyway, looks like *Alain R. is scratching an itch. Nice, he is the guy for
this!*

*Wish him well,*

*Drew*



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> What is Base Guide WiP?
> There is a folder by this name inside the English Folder on Nextcloud.
> Inside this folder, there is a folder named Related Materials.
> Inside that folder there is a document named BG70nn-SyntaxDiagrams.
> The document is just a renamed chapter template with the title changed.
> The version number in the file is 7.0.
> We have not completed Base Guide 6.2 and not even started version 6.4. The
> version 7.0 is to be released in August. Shouldn't we focus on version 6.2
> and 6.4. Whoever has written this chapter should add his initials in the
> file name.
> The release note page of version 7.0 does not state any changes in bas,
> then why are we including this new chapter in version 7.0? Does this
> chapter apply to version 6.4 or 6.2? If so then we should include it in
> those guides too.
>
> Pulkit Krishna
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide WiP

[Pulkit Krishna]

What is Base Guide WiP?
There is a folder by this name inside the English Folder on Nextcloud.
Inside this folder, there is a folder named Related Materials.
Inside that folder there is a document named BG70nn-SyntaxDiagrams.
The document is just a renamed chapter template with the title changed.
The version number in the file is 7.0.
We have not completed Base Guide 6.2 and not even started version 6.4. The
version 7.0 is to be released in August. Shouldn't we focus on version 6.2
and 6.4. Whoever has written this chapter should add his initials in the
file name.
The release note page of version 7.0 does not state any changes in bas,
then why are we including this new chapter in version 7.0? Does this
chapter apply to version 6.4 or 6.2? If so then we should include it in
those guides too.

Pulkit Krishna

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 9 Macros; Expanding section on Access2Base

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Everybody,
I have moved chapter 6 to published folder. I have changed some structure
in the spreadsheet. Before this there was a column called Actual Return
Date. I did not understand the use of that column. The return date of
reviews are written after the respective review by column. So there was no
need of that column. I have deleted it. I have also made two columns -
"First Draft uploaded by" and "First Draft uploaded on". The checked out by
and Expected Return Date would act as common columns for First Draft, First
Review and Second Review and the information in it can be deleted
afterwards. If anyone has any questions they can ask me. This change is
only for Base Guide 6.2.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 9 Macros; Expanding section on Access2Base

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Drew,
> 
> By far the largest would be to expand the section on the Access2Base
> standard basic library.
> 
> What is there now is inadequate IMO.

It's a good idea. I don't know anything about Access2Base. So I have
written only that there is such an extension.

This chapter should be written by somebody who has used Access and used
macros in Access. I have never used Access, never used MSOffice, used
only StarOffice/OpenOffice/LibreOffice under Linux. So I couldn't know
what should be the reason for the extension Access2Base.

I will translate your chapter to the German Base Handbuch later.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 9 Macros; Expanding section on Access2Base

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

I grabbed the draft file for chapter 9 today and gave it a cursory read
over.

Jotted down a couple of items I would like to change.

By far the largest would be to expand the section on the Access2Base
standard basic library.

What is there now is inadequate IMO.

I would look to add a small reference section on the main function in the
library, using the access2base wiki as a source for but not a copy paste in
total.

Also would include the TTNorthWind Calc file and database (as the current
zip file from the acess2base wiki), for distribution with the other files
in the supplemental folder.

Then again use, figure it would save time, information about how that Calc
was crafted from the tutorial also found on the access2base wiki as my
template for that.

Before I start on something like though thought I'd run it by everyone
here.

Time wise, I think, after spending taking some time just now to go over the
embedded basic library in the example Calc file and if I borrow from the
wiki for text then something by Wednesday mid morning. Maybe ready for a
review, maybe not, but something.

Anyway, I'll start with that chapter by updating what is there with the new
styles, having been away for a few months remembering how to do that
properly will no doubt take me this afternoon ;-)

Otherwise on the Access2Base stuff I not do anything before tomorrow so
time then for any feedback here.

Best wishes,

Drew

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Peter Schofield]

Hello

I am having to do screenshots using Mac OS as I no longer have a reliable 
Windows/Linux computer. I know there is slight differences between the 
operating systems, but a user should be able to work things out as the pictures 
are almost the same.

Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com



> On 29 Feb 2020, at 10:58, Jean Weber  wrote:
> 
> My opinion, FWIW: I think it's a waste of time to redo the screenshots
> in Windows, though I have no objection to doing so. Some of the
> sections in Chapter 2 may be Linux-only; I'm not sure. And a chapter
> with new screenshots will need a quick review to make sure they are
> all okay, correctly anchored, and so on.
> 
> Jean
> 
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 7:03 PM Rob Westein  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> On 28-02-2020 10:32, Pulkit Krishna wrote:
>>> Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they meet the
>>> current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so that
>>> it does not include the german title.
>>> 
>>> To Rob:
>>> I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the chapter
>>> from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
>>> inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as there
>>> are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all of the
>>> needed ones.
>> 
>> Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
>> screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
>> chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
>> So I redo all screenshots in Windows??
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> /Rob
>> 
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[kees538]

Jean Weber schreef op 29.02.2020 11:13:

Some time recently, I think Olivier said the English guides should have
screenshots from Windows. I was surprised because a few years ago
everything was supposed to be Linux, and I do not recall why this 
happened.


I think it is because most of the LO users are still Windows users.

Kees


Jean

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 20:05 Robert Großkopf 


wrote:


Hi Rob,
>
> Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
> screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
> chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
> So I redo all screenshots in Windows??

Don't know where to get the chapters of the Base guide you are working
on, but the original Base Handbook and the published version for LO 
5.0
contains only Linux-screenshots. There are 2 resons for this 
screenshots:

- avoid to get trouble with copyrights (the German documentation team
decided to take all screenshots in a special Linux-GTK-design ...)
- no Windows system available for me, the author of the Base Handbuch.

Regards

Robert




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Jean Weber]

Some time recently, I think Olivier said the English guides should have
screenshots from Windows. I was surprised because a few years ago
everything was supposed to be Linux, and I do not recall why this happened.

Jean

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 20:05 Robert Großkopf 
wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> >
> > Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
> > screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
> > chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
> > So I redo all screenshots in Windows??
>
> Don't know where to get the chapters of the Base guide you are working
> on, but the original Base Handbook and the published version for LO 5.0
> contains only Linux-screenshots. There are 2 resons for this screenshots:
> - avoid to get trouble with copyrights (the German documentation team
> decided to take all screenshots in a special Linux-GTK-design ...)
> - no Windows system available for me, the author of the Base Handbuch.
>
> Regards
>
> Robert
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Jean Weber]

OTOH, doing new screenshots is a great way to check whether the text makes
sense, is missing no important info, and is correct.

Jean

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 19:58 Jean Weber  wrote:

> My opinion, FWIW: I think it's a waste of time to redo the screenshots
> in Windows, though I have no objection to doing so. Some of the
> sections in Chapter 2 may be Linux-only; I'm not sure. And a chapter
> with new screenshots will need a quick review to make sure they are
> all okay, correctly anchored, and so on.
>
> Jean
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 7:03 PM Rob Westein  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > On 28-02-2020 10:32, Pulkit Krishna wrote:
> > > Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,
> > >
> > >
> > > I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they
> meet the
> > > current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so
> that
> > > it does not include the german title.
> > >
> > > To Rob:
> > > I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the
> chapter
> > > from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
> > > inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as
> there
> > > are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all
> of the
> > > needed ones.
> >
> > Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
> > screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
> > chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
> > So I redo all screenshots in Windows??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > /Rob
> >
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Rob,
> 
> Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
> screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
> chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
> So I redo all screenshots in Windows??

Don't know where to get the chapters of the Base guide you are working
on, but the original Base Handbook and the published version for LO 5.0
contains only Linux-screenshots. There are 2 resons for this screenshots:
- avoid to get trouble with copyrights (the German documentation team
decided to take all screenshots in a special Linux-GTK-design ...)
- no Windows system available for me, the author of the Base Handbuch.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Jean Weber]

My opinion, FWIW: I think it's a waste of time to redo the screenshots
in Windows, though I have no objection to doing so. Some of the
sections in Chapter 2 may be Linux-only; I'm not sure. And a chapter
with new screenshots will need a quick review to make sure they are
all okay, correctly anchored, and so on.

Jean

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 7:03 PM Rob Westein  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> On 28-02-2020 10:32, Pulkit Krishna wrote:
> > Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,
> >
> >
> > I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they meet the
> > current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so that
> > it does not include the german title.
> >
> > To Rob:
> > I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the chapter
> > from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
> > inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as there
> > are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all of the
> > needed ones.
>
> Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the
> screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in
> chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...
> So I redo all screenshots in Windows??
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rob
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapter 2 second review done

[Jean Weber]

I have reviewed Chapter 2 of the Base Guide and left several questions
for Pulkit or Dan. I also removed the old OOo styles and some obsolete
information, and I rewrote a few paragraphs.

Moving on to Chapter 3 now.

Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Rob Westein]

Hi All,

On 28-02-2020 10:32, Pulkit Krishna wrote:

Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,


I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they meet the
current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so that
it does not include the german title.

To Rob:
I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the chapter
from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as there
are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all of the
needed ones.


Just to be clear... I thought we agreed to use Windows OS to create the 
screendumps... (Dan told us to use Windows OS) The first Image in 
chapter 1 does not looks like Windows at all...

So I redo all screenshots in Windows??

Thanks,

/Rob



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Jean Weber]

The wrong date on the file and the spreadsheet was my mistake. I was not
paying attention and I thought Friday was the 29th! 

BTW, I am “she” not “he”. I know Jean is a man’s name in France and other
countries, so people often make that mistake.

Jean

On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 19:33 Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,
> I have compared chapter 1 before and after being edited by Jean. I have
> accepted all the changes. I have adjusted some screenshots so that they
> meet the current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the
> figure so that it does not include the german title). I have placed the
> chapter in Published folder and updated the spreadsheet.
>
> To Jean:
> I have added the name of the databases Media without macros and media with
> macros to the preface. I dit not used track changes as the change was
> necessary and the database name should be mentioned there.
>
> To Dan:
> Jean has commented that it would be too complicated to name the table
> "Athletes". He has changed the sentences accordingly so that the readers
> can understand that starters anre athletes. I agree with him.
>
> I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they meet the
> current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so that
> it does not include the german title.
>
> To Rob:
> I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the chapter
> from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
> inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as there
> are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all of the
> needed ones.
>
> To Everybody:
> There is a date problem. I think Jean being from Australia has added 29th
> Feb to the date in the Spreadsheet but it is 28th in India (where I live)
> at time of writing this mail. I think we should not use local dates and use
> the Universal time.
>
> Pulkit Krishna
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:23 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
>
> > Hi Jean,
> >
> > On 28-02-2020 02:00, Jean Weber wrote:
> > > Rob, if you are doing screenshots for Chapter 2 this week, I'll skip
> > > that chapter for now and work on Chapter 3.
> >
> > I did not have time this week to work on the screenshots
> > Last week I've downloaded all drafts, so I can prepare the screenshots
> > coming weekend.
> > Next week I will (hopefully) add them to the documents. No need to wait
> > for me.
> >
> > Rob
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello Jean, Dan and Rob,
I have compared chapter 1 before and after being edited by Jean. I have
accepted all the changes. I have adjusted some screenshots so that they
meet the current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the
figure so that it does not include the german title). I have placed the
chapter in Published folder and updated the spreadsheet.

To Jean:
I have added the name of the databases Media without macros and media with
macros to the preface. I dit not used track changes as the change was
necessary and the database name should be mentioned there.

To Dan:
Jean has commented that it would be too complicated to name the table
"Athletes". He has changed the sentences accordingly so that the readers
can understand that starters anre athletes. I agree with him.

I have adjusted the screenshots that you commented on so that they meet the
current standard (For example on page 24, I have cropped the figure so that
it does not include the german title.

To Rob:
I have adjusted the screenshots but if you want you can take the chapter
from the published, replace the screenshots and put it back there and
inform the mailing list.But I would advice you to skip chapter 1 as there
are not many needs of screenshot replacement and I have adjusted all of the
needed ones.

To Everybody:
There is a date problem. I think Jean being from Australia has added 29th
Feb to the date in the Spreadsheet but it is 28th in India (where I live)
at time of writing this mail. I think we should not use local dates and use
the Universal time.

Pulkit Krishna

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:23 AM Rob Westein  wrote:

> Hi Jean,
>
> On 28-02-2020 02:00, Jean Weber wrote:
> > Rob, if you are doing screenshots for Chapter 2 this week, I'll skip
> > that chapter for now and work on Chapter 3.
>
> I did not have time this week to work on the screenshots
> Last week I've downloaded all drafts, so I can prepare the screenshots
> coming weekend.
> Next week I will (hopefully) add them to the documents. No need to wait
> for me.
>
> Rob
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Rob Westein]

Hi Jean,

On 28-02-2020 02:00, Jean Weber wrote:

Rob, if you are doing screenshots for Chapter 2 this week, I'll skip
that chapter for now and work on Chapter 3.


I did not have time this week to work on the screenshots
Last week I've downloaded all drafts, so I can prepare the screenshots 
coming weekend.
Next week I will (hopefully) add them to the documents. No need to wait 
for me.


Rob


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Chapters 1 & 2 & 3

[Jean Weber]

Pulkit, Dan, and Rob:

I have returned Chapter 1, heavily edited, to the Feedback folder. I
left notes in it about what I did, and some questions that I could not
answer. I have updated the Status spreadsheet.

Rob, if you are doing screenshots for Chapter 2 this week, I'll skip
that chapter for now and work on Chapter 3.

Jean

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 6:37 AM Rob Westein  wrote:
>
> Hi Jean,
>
> No problem. I'm planning to redo chapter 2 screenshots this week.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
> On 23-02-2020 21:30, Jean Weber wrote:
> > Rob,
> >
> > I checked out Ch 1 & 2 for review but would prefer to do my review after
> > you replace the screenshots, and I’m a bit busy on other projects at
> > the moment. Rather than delay you, if you have time this week, I’ll let you
> > work on them first. Would that work for you?
> >
> > Regards, Jean
> >

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide Supplemental

[Drew Jensen]

Howdy,

Found a small single line typo in the macro, called from the example form,
in Example_Report_Bill.odb. Fixed it and the form now runs the report as
expected.

How would you prefer to handle this, do you want these in the feedback
folder also?

Drew

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide ch 1 uploaded

[Dan Lewis]

I have uploaded this chapter, Introducing Base, here:

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-guide/draft-5.x/introducing-base/view

Now I am starting work on Chapter 2, Planning/Designing Your Database

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