Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Howdy, Well, the LibreOffice 6.4 daily builds are available and the link to the, currently empty, wiki page is included. (haven't found a 6.3 daily build just yet, but I'm sure it will be there also when I do) So, will put the beginnings of the page there this afternoon. Yes. Best wishes, Drew On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy, > > Yes, that sounds about right if you are talking about either the Migration > Assistant or the standard Import Wizard (drag drop). > > The road I'm going down is to move the schema by changing the DDL and the > data by changing the DML generated from the HSQLdb SCRIPT command. > > Then running the DDL statements and the data load via the DML statements > in a new Firebird sdbc .odb. The queries, forms and reports come via drag > drop. > > Best wishes, > > Drew > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:46 AM Robert Großkopf < > rob...@familiegrosskopf.de> wrote: > >> Hi *, >> >> I have updated >> >> http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/index.php?&Inhalt=hsqldb_firebird_migration >> >> Will see if I will get to explain most of the problems (and >> workarounds), which will appear while migrating from HSQLDB to Firebird. >> - Views aren't migrated >> - Tablenames and columnnmes must have less than 32 characters >> - Datefields, timefields and date-time-fields will be migrated with >> wrong values depending on the timezone (HSQLDB-bug) >> - Subforms and parameter-queries aren't working >> - Some functions in queries must be migrated later by the user >> >> Could be there are more problems while migrating. I will test all this >> with the databases of the German Base-Handbuch. >> >> Regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de >> LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Howdy, Yes, that sounds about right if you are talking about either the Migration Assistant or the standard Import Wizard (drag drop). The road I'm going down is to move the schema by changing the DDL and the data by changing the DML generated from the HSQLdb SCRIPT command. Then running the DDL statements and the data load via the DML statements in a new Firebird sdbc .odb. The queries, forms and reports come via drag drop. Best wishes, Drew On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:46 AM Robert Großkopf wrote: > Hi *, > > I have updated > > http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/index.php?&Inhalt=hsqldb_firebird_migration > > Will see if I will get to explain most of the problems (and > workarounds), which will appear while migrating from HSQLDB to Firebird. > - Views aren't migrated > - Tablenames and columnnmes must have less than 32 characters > - Datefields, timefields and date-time-fields will be migrated with > wrong values depending on the timezone (HSQLDB-bug) > - Subforms and parameter-queries aren't working > - Some functions in queries must be migrated later by the user > > Could be there are more problems while migrating. I will test all this > with the databases of the German Base-Handbuch. > > Regards > > Robert > -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Hi *, I have updated http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/index.php?&Inhalt=hsqldb_firebird_migration Will see if I will get to explain most of the problems (and workarounds), which will appear while migrating from HSQLDB to Firebird. - Views aren't migrated - Tablenames and columnnmes must have less than 32 characters - Datefields, timefields and date-time-fields will be migrated with wrong values depending on the timezone (HSQLDB-bug) - Subforms and parameter-queries aren't working - Some functions in queries must be migrated later by the user Could be there are more problems while migrating. I will test all this with the databases of the German Base-Handbuch. Regards Robert -- Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Hi, the link should point to a localized wiki page in the ui language, if available. Thanks, m. V pet., 7. jun. 2019 19:17 je oseba Drew Jensen napisala: > Howdy, > > In the ESC meeting yesterday the question of including the Migration > Assistant (MA) feature by default in the pending 6.3 release finished with > a decision to do so with one update the UI. Which would show the user a > link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with > detailed information on what was possible with MA presently and information > on how to perform a migration with or without use of the MA tool. > > Caolán McNamra was quick about setting up the code for that URL link (Thank > you!) and provisionally used a URL for the wiki page of: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/MigrateFromHSQLDB > > That location makes sense IMO. Currently that page doesn't exist. > > There was a page started for the migration assistant a while back at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/FirebirdMigration I > think > it would be best to retire that page, replaced by the new page under > Documentation/How To. It could be raided for some content of course, but > there isn't much there by way of a How To/Tutroial style anyway. > > The new page will be setup to take advantage of the MediaWiki translation > extension. ( got some info on setting that up yesterday on IRC). > > I thought about top level categories for the new page, which you can see > here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/tmpMA > > That is about it for this email which was mostly to kick this off and get > some wisdom and feedback form the team. > > Best wishes, > > Drew > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Hi *, > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/KJ7q6LdpkdwmEd9 Have had a look at this. It's a description how to change from internal to external HSQLDB. Such a description is also part of the Base-Handbook. The description of Jean-Francois will show many details which I haven't written down in the Handbook. One hint: Could be I don't understand the description in the right way, but autovalue is possible in external databases. You have to set CALL IDENTITY() for generated values in the advanced settings of the *.odb-file. For the migration to Firebird we will need something like this: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/index.php?&Inhalt=hsqldb_firebird_migration ... but this also doesn't show the whole problem ... Regards Robert -- Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Alright - did a Frankenstein Translation (courtesy google web service). Jean-Francios also sent the original .odt and an .odg via a direct email, which let me get the original images. Put that all to a private directory on the NC server Review only link for that and the other files is https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/KJ7q6LdpkdwmEd9 So, easiest way to compare that is with the two pdf files: original: hsql-base-v10a_-_jean-francois_nifenecker.pdf FrankoTranslate: HSQL-base_AIBotTranslate-google.pdf (arrgh, the original pdf automatically opens the outline in the pdf viewer but with this one I must of missed a checkbox because you have to actually open it) Anyway, I realize this is the workflow for translations work, so forgive me for that. (I also took some liberties with the LO6x template and switched to Ubuntu/Ubuntu Light font for everyting except the title is Vegur, just to check it out and embedded the font in the odt) So, this is pretty good structure I think. Will get to clean up of the English and new screen shots next. Drew On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:18 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > Perfect! > > That is the way to start this and a translation with update as needed will > cover that migration path. > > Thanks, > > Drew > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:54 PM jean-francois < > jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> wrote: > >> Hi Drew, >> >> Le 07/06/2019 à 20:28, Drew Jensen a écrit : >> > To follow up on my last email and the point about getting folks to >> migrate >> > off the embedded HSQL Base file format to an external rdbms - we are >> > already most of the way there with an existing How To style post on I >> think >> > both the ASK site and the AOO hosted forums - I'm sure about the later - >> > wich shows how to use an external HSQL server for the data (with more >> going >> > on in that posts then is needed here). It would be a straightforward >> > process to use a big chunk of that updated for use as a one time >> migration >> > How To. I'm sure the author would have no problem with putting the >> content >> > to the secondary use and it would be as simple a migration as possible >> with >> > HSQL rdbms being both the old and new engine. >> >> I had written, a while back, such a document -- mostly in French -- >> titled as "Base - How to get rid of embedded HSQLDB". >> >> This document is hosted by a friend of mine. You can download it from >> that page: https://numericoach.net/LibreOffice-Base-et-HSQLDB >> >> >> FWIW. >> >> Best regards, >> -- >> Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Perfect! That is the way to start this and a translation with update as needed will cover that migration path. Thanks, Drew On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:54 PM jean-francois < jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net> wrote: > Hi Drew, > > Le 07/06/2019 à 20:28, Drew Jensen a écrit : > > To follow up on my last email and the point about getting folks to > migrate > > off the embedded HSQL Base file format to an external rdbms - we are > > already most of the way there with an existing How To style post on I > think > > both the ASK site and the AOO hosted forums - I'm sure about the later - > > wich shows how to use an external HSQL server for the data (with more > going > > on in that posts then is needed here). It would be a straightforward > > process to use a big chunk of that updated for use as a one time > migration > > How To. I'm sure the author would have no problem with putting the > content > > to the secondary use and it would be as simple a migration as possible > with > > HSQL rdbms being both the old and new engine. > > I had written, a while back, such a document -- mostly in French -- > titled as "Base - How to get rid of embedded HSQLDB". > > This document is hosted by a friend of mine. You can download it from > that page: https://numericoach.net/LibreOffice-Base-et-HSQLDB > > > FWIW. > > Best regards, > -- > Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Hi Drew, Le 07/06/2019 à 20:28, Drew Jensen a écrit : To follow up on my last email and the point about getting folks to migrate off the embedded HSQL Base file format to an external rdbms - we are already most of the way there with an existing How To style post on I think both the ASK site and the AOO hosted forums - I'm sure about the later - wich shows how to use an external HSQL server for the data (with more going on in that posts then is needed here). It would be a straightforward process to use a big chunk of that updated for use as a one time migration How To. I'm sure the author would have no problem with putting the content to the secondary use and it would be as simple a migration as possible with HSQL rdbms being both the old and new engine. I had written, a while back, such a document -- mostly in French -- titled as "Base - How to get rid of embedded HSQLDB". This document is hosted by a friend of mine. You can download it from that page: https://numericoach.net/LibreOffice-Base-et-HSQLDB FWIW. Best regards, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
To follow up on my last email and the point about getting folks to migrate off the embedded HSQL Base file format to an external rdbms - we are already most of the way there with an existing How To style post on I think both the ASK site and the AOO hosted forums - I'm sure about the later - wich shows how to use an external HSQL server for the data (with more going on in that posts then is needed here). It would be a straightforward process to use a big chunk of that updated for use as a one time migration How To. I'm sure the author would have no problem with putting the content to the secondary use and it would be as simple a migration as possible with HSQL rdbms being both the old and new engine. On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 2:06 PM Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy Robert, > > Yes - for me that is exactly the point of this - to say 'DO THIS WITH A > COPY' and then address the facts of the situation as they are. > > Firebird engine went live with the 6.2 release so that horse is already > out of the barn, as some would put it. > > There exists a real desire by a good number of people, for what seems to > me reasonable reasons, to remove support for current embedded HSQL database > code in an expeditious fashion. > > This migration assistant piece is something that would be nice but it is > not a requirement for many of those using Base files. > > What would be best now would be to put together some cogent, concise steps > for folks to follow in moving off of the embedded HSQL Base file to a new > Base file with the database schema and data moved to another system, which > could be another embedded Base file using Firebird or could be to an > external rdbms. > > It is also known exactly as to what causes problems for the current, > assuming nothing is fixed before release, migration assistant code; so this > can tell users check your files for the following and if you don't use any > of run the migration assistant with confidence. > If they do have known problem files then offer them steps they can take > today, or let them know they should wait for fixes to the migration > assistant in later 6.3 releases. > > At least that is my thoughts. > > Best wishes > > Drew > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:51 PM Robert Großkopf > wrote: > >> Hi Drew, >> > >> > In the ESC meeting yesterday the question of including the Migration >> > Assistant (MA) feature by default in the pending 6.3 release finished >> with >> > a decision to do so with one update the UI. Which would show the user a >> > link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with >> > detailed information on what was possible with MA presently and >> information >> > on how to perform a migration with or without use of the MA tool. >> >> Seems there have people decided to do this who didn't use any database >> in LO. Migration has many unsolved problems and also the internal >> Firebird new bugs, which doesn't exist in HSQLDB ... >> And now we should inform how to migrate? I am missing arguments for this >> step. >> So much databases won't run well when migrating to Firebird with the >> Migrating Assistant. I could inform how to migrate, but the first I >> would write down: Do all this with a copy of your database and don't >> wonder if you are missing views, queries won't run as expected etc. Is >> this really the intention of this HowTo? >> >> Regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de >> LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Howdy Robert, Yes - for me that is exactly the point of this - to say 'DO THIS WITH A COPY' and then address the facts of the situation as they are. Firebird engine went live with the 6.2 release so that horse is already out of the barn, as some would put it. There exists a real desire by a good number of people, for what seems to me reasonable reasons, to remove support for current embedded HSQL database code in an expeditious fashion. This migration assistant piece is something that would be nice but it is not a requirement for many of those using Base files. What would be best now would be to put together some cogent, concise steps for folks to follow in moving off of the embedded HSQL Base file to a new Base file with the database schema and data moved to another system, which could be another embedded Base file using Firebird or could be to an external rdbms. It is also known exactly as to what causes problems for the current, assuming nothing is fixed before release, migration assistant code; so this can tell users check your files for the following and if you don't use any of run the migration assistant with confidence. If they do have known problem files then offer them steps they can take today, or let them know they should wait for fixes to the migration assistant in later 6.3 releases. At least that is my thoughts. Best wishes Drew On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:51 PM Robert Großkopf wrote: > Hi Drew, > > > > In the ESC meeting yesterday the question of including the Migration > > Assistant (MA) feature by default in the pending 6.3 release finished > with > > a decision to do so with one update the UI. Which would show the user a > > link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with > > detailed information on what was possible with MA presently and > information > > on how to perform a migration with or without use of the MA tool. > > Seems there have people decided to do this who didn't use any database > in LO. Migration has many unsolved problems and also the internal > Firebird new bugs, which doesn't exist in HSQLDB ... > And now we should inform how to migrate? I am missing arguments for this > step. > So much databases won't run well when migrating to Firebird with the > Migrating Assistant. I could inform how to migrate, but the first I > would write down: Do all this with a copy of your database and don't > wonder if you are missing views, queries won't run as expected etc. Is > this really the intention of this HowTo? > > Regards > > Robert > -- > Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de > LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Hi Drew, > > In the ESC meeting yesterday the question of including the Migration > Assistant (MA) feature by default in the pending 6.3 release finished with > a decision to do so with one update the UI. Which would show the user a > link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with > detailed information on what was possible with MA presently and information > on how to perform a migration with or without use of the MA tool. Seems there have people decided to do this who didn't use any database in LO. Migration has many unsolved problems and also the internal Firebird new bugs, which doesn't exist in HSQLDB ... And now we should inform how to migrate? I am missing arguments for this step. So much databases won't run well when migrating to Firebird with the Migrating Assistant. I could inform how to migrate, but the first I would write down: Do all this with a copy of your database and don't wonder if you are missing views, queries won't run as expected etc. Is this really the intention of this HowTo? Regards Robert -- Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Creating a How To Migrate HSQL Base File wiki page for reference from LO 6.3 binary
Howdy, In the ESC meeting yesterday the question of including the Migration Assistant (MA) feature by default in the pending 6.3 release finished with a decision to do so with one update the UI. Which would show the user a link, on the dialog box which starts the process, to a wiki page with detailed information on what was possible with MA presently and information on how to perform a migration with or without use of the MA tool. Caolán McNamra was quick about setting up the code for that URL link (Thank you!) and provisionally used a URL for the wiki page of: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/MigrateFromHSQLDB That location makes sense IMO. Currently that page doesn't exist. There was a page started for the migration assistant a while back at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/FirebirdMigration I think it would be best to retire that page, replaced by the new page under Documentation/How To. It could be raided for some content of course, but there isn't much there by way of a How To/Tutroial style anyway. The new page will be setup to take advantage of the MediaWiki translation extension. ( got some info on setting that up yesterday on IRC). I thought about top level categories for the new page, which you can see here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/tmpMA That is about it for this email which was mostly to kick this off and get some wisdom and feedback form the team. Best wishes, Drew -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
