Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
I agree with Jean’s comments about the Documentation forum. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 12 May 2022, at 09:08, Jean Weber wrote: > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 06:46 Olivier Hallot > wrote: > >> Hi Team >> >> Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the >> Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion. >> >> 1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the >> current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note: > > > Automatic for me > >+ automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at TDF >> (the one you have for NextCloud, for example) >> >>+ If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have in >> TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a different >> e-mail address for the Forum service (set in >> https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit ) >> >>+ The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left) >> where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the >> frequency of forum notification mails sent to you. >> >> 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test >> site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: >> >> + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? > > > Yes, close the doc mailing list for posting, but keep archives available. > > >> + Shall we leave it open for posting?. >> + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. >> Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring >> confusion and loss of synergy. >> >> 3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several >> subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and "Help". >> + Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another >> subcategory to suggest? or... >> + Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and filter >> with tags? > > > I don’t know how the tags work or who assigns them, but I think having only > one main category is easier to use.. > > > The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022. >> >> Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the best >> service. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Olivier >> >> Mensagem encaminhada >> Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum >> Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300 >> De: Olivier Hallot >> Organização: The Document Foundation >> Para: LibreOffice Documentation >> >> Hi Team >> >> Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based >> on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list >> history has been imported to it. Please have a look at >> >> https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 >> >> And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. >> >> Kind regards >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >> https://www.libreoffice.org >> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
I'm looking forward to Discourse replacing the mailing list. Suggested features: 1. All email notifications turned off except any threads subscribed to 2. Optional thread subscriptions: I post to, mentioning my username, containing selected tags (eg base documentation) 3. Default English filter 4. Attach documents and inline images 5. Emojis on posts, at least a GitHub subset, rather than just love 6. Specific documentation of the rules coded into the site (eg https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/t/re-test-document-foundation-community-email-issue-posting-error/33 ) 7. Direct https://ask.libreoffice.org/ link Works find with Brave although Brave does not support translation. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
Hi all, Just a short clarification here: Le 11/05/2022 à 22:39, Olivier Hallot a écrit : [...] 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? + Shall we leave it open for posting?. + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring confusion and loss of synergy. For those who prefer mails, you can get notifications from the forum for each publication, or follow only what you are interested on. You can also reply by mail. This is not completely like a mailing list, but you are not forced to interoperate with the forum once you have set your preferences. Thanks Olivier for leading the discussion here, and others for their feedback :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier so...@libreoffice.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: soph Foundation coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 06:46 Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Team > > Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the > Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion. > > 1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the > current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note: Automatic for me + automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at TDF > (the one you have for NextCloud, for example) > > + If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have in > TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a different > e-mail address for the Forum service (set in > https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit ) > > + The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left) > where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the > frequency of forum notification mails sent to you. > > 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test > site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: > > + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? Yes, close the doc mailing list for posting, but keep archives available. > + Shall we leave it open for posting?. > + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. > Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring > confusion and loss of synergy. > > 3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several > subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and "Help". > + Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another > subcategory to suggest? or... > + Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and filter > with tags? I don’t know how the tags work or who assigns them, but I think having only one main category is easier to use.. The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022. > > Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the best > service. > > Kind regards > > Olivier > > Mensagem encaminhada > Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum > Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300 > De: Olivier Hallot > Organização: The Document Foundation > Para: LibreOffice Documentation > > Hi Team > > Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based > on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list > history has been imported to it. Please have a look at > > https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 > > And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. > > Kind regards > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: > https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
Olivier Hallot schreef op 11.05.2022 22:39: Hi Team Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion. 1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note: I think I prefer automatic subscription. + automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at TDF (the one you have for NextCloud, for example) + If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have in TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a different e-mail address for the Forum service (set in https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit ) + The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left) where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the frequency of forum notification mails sent to you. 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? I think so. two sources seems confusing to me. + Shall we leave it open for posting?. + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. One source seems better to me. Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring confusion and loss of synergy. Agree. 3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and "Help". + Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another subcategory to suggest? or... + Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and filter with tags? Tags seem fine to me. But maybe two subcategories, UI and Help. The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022. Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the best service. Best regards, Kees Kind regards Olivier Mensagem encaminhada Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300 De: Olivier Hallot Organização: The Document Foundation Para: LibreOffice Documentation Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.
Hi Team Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion. 1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note: + automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at TDF (the one you have for NextCloud, for example) + If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have in TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a different e-mail address for the Forum service (set in https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit ) + The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left) where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the frequency of forum notification mails sent to you. 2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore: + Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)? + Shall we leave it open for posting?. + WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems. Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring confusion and loss of synergy. 3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and "Help". + Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another subcategory to suggest? or... + Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and filter with tags? The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022. Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the best service. Kind regards Olivier Mensagem encaminhada Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300 De: Olivier Hallot Organização: The Document Foundation Para: LibreOffice Documentation Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
This looks good as it does give the progress of a document on its journey to publication. The only comment I can make is about the little indicators used for the people involved for each item. Suggest an empty circle with the initials of the user inside. For me that would be PS. The colour fill used does make the initials difficult to see on my monitor. I am now creating the 7.3 versions of the Impress and Draw user guides. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 9 May 2022, at 17:07, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > Hi Team > > Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the > documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been > imported to it. Please have a look at > > https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 > > And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. > > Kind regards > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org > Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
Hi Ilmari, https://meta.discourse.org/ works for me. My Seamonkey version is 2.53.12. Kind regards, Regina Ilmari Lauhakangas schrieb am 09.05.2022 um 21:04: On 9.5.2022 20.57, Regina Henschel wrote: Olivier Hallot schrieb am 09.05.2022 um 17:07: Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. My default browser is "Seamonkey" and using that browser I see nothing. The link opens in a blank page. I do not want to change my default browser, because I like the integration of mail, browser and chatZilla client. So I would need a notification about the forum posts per mail. If I then want to answer or post myself, I could use Chrome. But I do not want to make Chrome my default browser. Latest SeaMonkey is based on Firefox 91.9, so relatively recent. I looked into it and apparently there was a regression in Discourse: https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-not-loading-on-legacy-browsers/221412 As TDF is running the latest release of Discourse, 2.8.3, it seems that the fixes have not yet hit a stable version. However, Regina and other SeaMonkey users could test how https://meta.discourse.org/ works. It certainly works for me with SeaMonkey 2.53.12 It is not the intention of Discourse devs to cruelly block visitors using non-bleeding-edge browsers. Quote from a dev in the topic: "Keep in mind, our biggest focus is on not breaking old browsers. A blank page is simply not acceptable, not even on ancient browsers. A readonly view is acceptable. The tricky thing that happened here is that we have some browsers that are in a twilight state, not exactly supported and not exactly not supported, sadly they got a white page treatment. We are thinking of better approaches going forward to avoid regularly hitting these issues as our minimal browser version number creeps up." Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
On 9.5.2022 20.57, Regina Henschel wrote: Olivier Hallot schrieb am 09.05.2022 um 17:07: Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. My default browser is "Seamonkey" and using that browser I see nothing. The link opens in a blank page. I do not want to change my default browser, because I like the integration of mail, browser and chatZilla client. So I would need a notification about the forum posts per mail. If I then want to answer or post myself, I could use Chrome. But I do not want to make Chrome my default browser. Latest SeaMonkey is based on Firefox 91.9, so relatively recent. I looked into it and apparently there was a regression in Discourse: https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-not-loading-on-legacy-browsers/221412 As TDF is running the latest release of Discourse, 2.8.3, it seems that the fixes have not yet hit a stable version. However, Regina and other SeaMonkey users could test how https://meta.discourse.org/ works. It certainly works for me with SeaMonkey 2.53.12 It is not the intention of Discourse devs to cruelly block visitors using non-bleeding-edge browsers. Quote from a dev in the topic: "Keep in mind, our biggest focus is on not breaking old browsers. A blank page is simply not acceptable, not even on ancient browsers. A readonly view is acceptable. The tricky thing that happened here is that we have some browsers that are in a twilight state, not exactly supported and not exactly not supported, sadly they got a white page treatment. We are thinking of better approaches going forward to avoid regularly hitting these issues as our minimal browser version number creeps up." Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
Hi Olivier, Olivier Hallot schrieb am 09.05.2022 um 17:07: Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. My default browser is "Seamonkey" and using that browser I see nothing. The link opens in a blank page. I do not want to change my default browser, because I like the integration of mail, browser and chatZilla client. So I would need a notification about the forum posts per mail. If I then want to answer or post myself, I could use Chrome. But I do not want to make Chrome my default browser. Kind regards, Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
Hi Team Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list history has been imported to it. Please have a look at https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195 And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
