Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Hi :) The right answer did turn up eventually. Revisiting an area and briefly exploring alternatives doesn't seem particularly bad to me. Sorry if that was just a waste f time for everyone. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com; documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013, 3:00 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: John Smith's message pointing out that the Contributor's Guide specifies to insert only PNG images, keeping separate image files, closes the book on this issue. If I had remembered that section, I would never had posted my original question. Call it the learning curve. If I were online more regularly this month, I would have spoken up earlier and pointed to the Contributor's Guide. I certainly don't expect new (or even older) members of the group to be familiar with all of its contents (heck, *I* can't remember all that's in it, and I wrote most of it), but it would be nice if longer-term members like Tom Davies would refrain from speculating, waffling on, and generally confusing the issue when someone asks a legitimate question like Girvin's. Of course, some of the info in the Contributor's Guide is out of date, as another of Girvin's posts led me and others to realise. It's past time for me to do some more updating and also perhaps fill in some of the missing info. (Others can do so, too, and put their revisions into Feedback.) --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
John, It certainly does say that , doesn't it. I forgot that item - so much to read. Thanks. Girvin Herr John Smith wrote: Hi I see there has been a lot of discussion on this subject in the list. May I point out that Drawing objects ought not to be inserted in the guides. If you refer to Chapter 2, Producing LO User Guides which is available in the Resources for Contributors folder on ODF Authors (no log-in required), in the section 'Flowcharts and other diagrams' section on page 16, it requires you to convert them to PNG before inserting them. Regards JohnS On 23/02/2013 19:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Dan, I am very Pavlovian myself. If it hurts, I don't do it again. John Smith's message pointing out that the Contributor's Guide specifies to insert only PNG images, keeping separate image files, closes the book on this issue. If I had remembered that section, I would never had posted my original question. Call it the learning curve. Thanks. Girvin Herr Dan Lewis wrote: The reason for inserting graphics into our documents and providing a zipped file containing all of them was based upon a problem that existed recently. When someone reviewed a document, sometimes some of the graphics would disappear, sometimes most if not all would disappear. They would also disappear from the ODT file making it a much smaller file. So we began to save the graphics and zip them. Then when this happened, the reviewer could re-insert the graphics. Very possible this was a bug, but it did not happen consistently. So, filing a bug report would do not good as it could not be duplicated. Perhaps, this bug was removed as it has not happened recently. But it is always better to be safe than to have to re-create all the graphics. This has been more of a practice or suggestion than a rule. --Dan On 02/24/2013 06:28 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Steve, Hmmm. I have never tried that. In some instances, it may be a shortcut to the Insert drill-down. Thanks. Girvin Herr Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have used a number of drawings from Draw in my Writer documents where I copy and paste from Draw. I find I can then edit them in Writer and they are embedded in the writer file. Steve On 2013-02-25 11:04, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Peter, Thanks for the suggestion. Your last sentence appears to me to be confused. When I state Draw OLE object, what I mean is: Insert - Object - OLE Object - LibreOffice 3.6 Drawing This creates a drawing at the cursor directly in Writer, as you say, not as a separate file. I have been doing a lot of drawings in my many documents this way and I have never had a problem with it. No such lost links. It seems to me that if the drawing and the method to edit it were in the document itself, and not in an external file, it would be a lot safer, accessible, and stable. But that is just my opinion. This is now a moot point, since that opinion has been overridden by the document team leader, who prefers inserting separate files and keeping them in a zipped file in the same directory as the document. That's okay with me too, if that is the policy. That is why I asked the original question - what is the preference? IMHO, the only downside of using Draw as an OLE is that the OLE version of Draw has a feature subset of the stand-alone Draw program. For example, the OLE Draw does not have the Zoom capability, which makes it difficult sometimes to view the drawing properly when working on it. It also has some strange interactions with the document frame that it goes into, making it difficult to get the scale and position as one wants it inside the frame. That can be annoying sometimes and I am not privy as to why it was done that way. Thanks again. Girvin Herr Peter Schofield wrote: Hello Girvin When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer document. In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your document is staying within the same directory structure because a link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot safer from getting lost. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: John Smith's message pointing out that the Contributor's Guide specifies to insert only PNG images, keeping separate image files, closes the book on this issue. If I had remembered that section, I would never had posted my original question. Call it the learning curve. If I were online more regularly this month, I would have spoken up earlier and pointed to the Contributor's Guide. I certainly don't expect new (or even older) members of the group to be familiar with all of its contents (heck, *I* can't remember all that's in it, and I wrote most of it), but it would be nice if longer-term members like Tom Davies would refrain from speculating, waffling on, and generally confusing the issue when someone asks a legitimate question like Girvin's. Of course, some of the info in the Contributor's Guide is out of date, as another of Girvin's posts led me and others to realise. It's past time for me to do some more updating and also perhaps fill in some of the missing info. (Others can do so, too, and put their revisions into Feedback.) --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Hello Girvin When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer document. In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your document is staying within the same directory structure because a link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot safer from getting lost. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Hi :) Errr, i think a few confusions going on. Hopefully by team-leader you mean Dan (for Base) or Jean (the whole Docs Team). When i put pictures in a document i usually just grab the image from the file-browser and drop it into the document and then resize, change anchor type and drag it into position. Is that not OLE? Clearly it's not DDL (or whatever that was) because i don't have to keep the image file handy. (well, i do jic but only because of the bugs thing) If i need to edit an image i never even try from inside the document. It's either back tot he original or latest version i can find or right-click the image and save it outside the document. It just feels wrong doing it inside the document but i might try it a few times from now on. Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Cc: Lo documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 22:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings Peter, Thanks for the suggestion. Your last sentence appears to me to be confused. When I state Draw OLE object, what I mean is: Insert - Object - OLE Object - LibreOffice 3.6 Drawing This creates a drawing at the cursor directly in Writer, as you say, not as a separate file. I have been doing a lot of drawings in my many documents this way and I have never had a problem with it. No such lost links. It seems to me that if the drawing and the method to edit it were in the document itself, and not in an external file, it would be a lot safer, accessible, and stable. But that is just my opinion. This is now a moot point, since that opinion has been overridden by the document team leader, who prefers inserting separate files and keeping them in a zipped file in the same directory as the document. That's okay with me too, if that is the policy. That is why I asked the original question - what is the preference? IMHO, the only downside of using Draw as an OLE is that the OLE version of Draw has a feature subset of the stand-alone Draw program. For example, the OLE Draw does not have the Zoom capability, which makes it difficult sometimes to view the drawing properly when working on it. It also has some strange interactions with the document frame that it goes into, making it difficult to get the scale and position as one wants it inside the frame. That can be annoying sometimes and I am not privy as to why it was done that way. Thanks again. Girvin Herr Peter Schofield wrote: Hello Girvin When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer document. In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your document is staying within the same directory structure because a link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot safer from getting lost. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Hi. I have used a number of drawings from Draw in my Writer documents where I copy and paste from Draw. I find I can then edit them in Writer and they are embedded in the writer file. Steve On 2013-02-25 11:04, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Peter, Thanks for the suggestion. Your last sentence appears to me to be confused. When I state Draw OLE object, what I mean is: Insert - Object - OLE Object - LibreOffice 3.6 Drawing This creates a drawing at the cursor directly in Writer, as you say, not as a separate file. I have been doing a lot of drawings in my many documents this way and I have never had a problem with it. No such lost links. It seems to me that if the drawing and the method to edit it were in the document itself, and not in an external file, it would be a lot safer, accessible, and stable. But that is just my opinion. This is now a moot point, since that opinion has been overridden by the document team leader, who prefers inserting separate files and keeping them in a zipped file in the same directory as the document. That's okay with me too, if that is the policy. That is why I asked the original question - what is the preference? IMHO, the only downside of using Draw as an OLE is that the OLE version of Draw has a feature subset of the stand-alone Draw program. For example, the OLE Draw does not have the Zoom capability, which makes it difficult sometimes to view the drawing properly when working on it. It also has some strange interactions with the document frame that it goes into, making it difficult to get the scale and position as one wants it inside the frame. That can be annoying sometimes and I am not privy as to why it was done that way. Thanks again. Girvin Herr Peter Schofield wrote: Hello Girvin When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer document. In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your document is staying within the same directory structure because a link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot safer from getting lost. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
The reason for inserting graphics into our documents and providing a zipped file containing all of them was based upon a problem that existed recently. When someone reviewed a document, sometimes some of the graphics would disappear, sometimes most if not all would disappear. They would also disappear from the ODT file making it a much smaller file. So we began to save the graphics and zip them. Then when this happened, the reviewer could re-insert the graphics. Very possible this was a bug, but it did not happen consistently. So, filing a bug report would do not good as it could not be duplicated. Perhaps, this bug was removed as it has not happened recently. But it is always better to be safe than to have to re-create all the graphics. This has been more of a practice or suggestion than a rule. --Dan On 02/24/2013 06:28 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Steve, Hmmm. I have never tried that. In some instances, it may be a shortcut to the Insert drill-down. Thanks. Girvin Herr Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I have used a number of drawings from Draw in my Writer documents where I copy and paste from Draw. I find I can then edit them in Writer and they are embedded in the writer file. Steve On 2013-02-25 11:04, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Peter, Thanks for the suggestion. Your last sentence appears to me to be confused. When I state Draw OLE object, what I mean is: Insert - Object - OLE Object - LibreOffice 3.6 Drawing This creates a drawing at the cursor directly in Writer, as you say, not as a separate file. I have been doing a lot of drawings in my many documents this way and I have never had a problem with it. No such lost links. It seems to me that if the drawing and the method to edit it were in the document itself, and not in an external file, it would be a lot safer, accessible, and stable. But that is just my opinion. This is now a moot point, since that opinion has been overridden by the document team leader, who prefers inserting separate files and keeping them in a zipped file in the same directory as the document. That's okay with me too, if that is the policy. That is why I asked the original question - what is the preference? IMHO, the only downside of using Draw as an OLE is that the OLE version of Draw has a feature subset of the stand-alone Draw program. For example, the OLE Draw does not have the Zoom capability, which makes it difficult sometimes to view the drawing properly when working on it. It also has some strange interactions with the document frame that it goes into, making it difficult to get the scale and position as one wants it inside the frame. That can be annoying sometimes and I am not privy as to why it was done that way. Thanks again. Girvin Herr Peter Schofield wrote: Hello Girvin When I grab a screen shot or create an illustration, I save it as a PNG file. I then copy the file and paste it into a Writer document. In my opinion, OLE objects are only really useful if your document is staying within the same directory structure because a link to an OLE object can easily be broken. I avoid OLE objects because the documents I create do get moved around a lot. Copy and paste or creating drawings directly in Writer should be a lot safer from getting lost. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com On 23 Feb 2013, at 20:37, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Hi :) Fwiw my thought would be OLE but keep a copy of the original youself and if possible find somewhere useful to upload the file to so that editors can find it again if something does go wrong. Would it be a good idea for someone to set-up a wiki-page (or few) to put all the screenshots on? Regards from Tom :) From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: Lo documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2013, 19:37 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Tom, Those are all good ideas. We are back to backups again. I was wondering about the screenshots myself. The other day, I had the opportunity to look at the old Getting Started guide and noticed the Base screenshots there just seemed nicer than the ones in the Base Guide I am working on. I was wondering about a screenshot library that authors could use for their documents. That way, the screenshots would not only be the nicest obtainable, but they would be consistent from one document to the next. That would be less confusing for the readers, especially the novices and newbies. Also, the authors would not need to make their own screenshots, unless what they wanted was not in the library. Some thought may be needed on how that library would be organized, so as to minimize lookup time for the authors. Just a thought. Girvin Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Fwiw my thought would be OLE but keep a copy of the original youself and if possible find somewhere useful to upload the file to so that editors can find it again if something does go wrong. Would it be a good idea for someone to set-up a wiki-page (or few) to put all the screenshots on? Regards from Tom :) *From:* Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net *To:* Lo documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Saturday, 23 February 2013, 19:37 *Subject:* [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
On 02/23/2013 02:37 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr My suggestion is to create the figure in Draw, save it as a graphic file (usually PNG), and then insert the picture into the document. The team started to save all the screen shots used in each chapter, zip them into a file, and then upload that with document you are working on. I had already place all of the graphics I have used in each one of the Base chapters that I have done any writing in. I just had not uploaded the zipped graphics files. So, I corrected that just now. You should find these files in the Draft folder. (PlanningDesigningDatabase.zip for chapter 2 and DataInputAndRemoval for chapter 3.) I would appreciate if you would add any graphics to the appropriate graphic file. When you have finished the chapter upload both the chapter and graphic file if there are any additions. Just add your initials (_GRH_) and date uploaded. --Dan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to insert or embed drawings
Dan Lewis wrote: On 02/23/2013 02:37 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I am about to create a figure in Draw for one of the Base Guide documents. I can either create an external Draw file and insert that file into the document, or I can use the embedded (OLE) Draw version and have the figure embedded in the document. The former requires the Draw file to be maintained (saved) along with the document, risk being lost, and if lost, need to be re-created if future editing is required. The OLE version goes with the document, has no additional file to maintain, and will always be there for future editing. I prefer the OLE style, but what is the consensus of the documentation team? Thanks. Girvin Herr My suggestion is to create the figure in Draw, save it as a graphic file (usually PNG), and then insert the picture into the document. The team started to save all the screen shots used in each chapter, zip them into a file, and then upload that with document you are working on. I had already place all of the graphics I have used in each one of the Base chapters that I have done any writing in. I just had not uploaded the zipped graphics files. So, I corrected that just now. You should find these files in the Draft folder. (PlanningDesigningDatabase.zip for chapter 2 and DataInputAndRemoval for chapter 3.) I would appreciate if you would add any graphics to the appropriate graphic file. When you have finished the chapter upload both the chapter and graphic file if there are any additions. Just add your initials (_GRH_) and date uploaded. --Dan Will do! Now to recreate what I lost yesterday... :-( Thanks. Girvin -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
