Re: [Dorset] Hi all from Weymouth

2010-11-06 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke

On 05/11/10 21:53, StarLion wrote:


Since then, I've gone through two laptops and three tower PCs, using
Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Slackware, Wolvix, and then finally my current
favoured distro Arch.


I'm an Arch user too :)


I've broken systems more than once with my incessant experimenting
(like it's a rather bad idea to remove bash...), but on the other hand
through experimenting I've learned more than I ever have by just
reading the (don't)readmes, man pages and so on.


Sounds familiar!  In my early days I used to have to do a clean 
re-install about once a month...


Welcome to the LUG.


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Re: [Dorset] Hi all from Weymouth

2010-11-06 Thread Natalie Hooper

  but so far only my younger
 brother (A recent Ubuntu to Arch convert) and my mother (Who uses
 Vinux - Ubuntu for the Visually Impaired) have adopted the system.


I think converting two people is quite an achievement ;-)

If you don't mind, can you tell me a little bit more about Vinux? How
quickly/easily or not your mother adapted to it? Can she maintain her
computer herself or is it helpful to her to have you on hand (basically, is
there a lot of maintenance and tweaking required or does it  work well out
of the box)? I'm always particularly interested to hear about Linux
solutions for users with impairments (my partner works in the charity
sector).
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Re: [Dorset] Hi all from Weymouth

2010-11-06 Thread StarLion
On 6 November 2010 10:03, Natalie Hooper nataliehoo...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 If you don't mind, can you tell me a little bit more about Vinux? How
 quickly/easily or not your mother adapted to it? Can she maintain her
 computer herself or is it helpful to her to have you on hand (basically, is
 there a lot of maintenance and tweaking required or does it  work well out
 of the box)? I'm always particularly interested to hear about Linux
 solutions for users with impairments (my partner works in the charity
 sector).

VInux itself uses a Ubuntu base, so like Ubuntu it 'just works' mostly.
It takes advantage of the various accessibility settings, such as the
Orca screen reader and the high-contrast GTK themes.
Once I explained the menu and where to find things, she found it easy
to use. She already uses Firefox, so no issues getting lost there.
The only part that I keep getting called in for is package management
via Synaptic. I've explained it to her, but after several experiences
on Windows where installing something turned out badly, she won't tell
it to make any changes until I check on them.
On the other hand, upgrades she'll allow safely without checking.
She knows a friend who's actually totally blind, who's also had a look
(No pun intended) at it. She's a Windows user herself, but admits that
it's quite an intuitive solution.
I think VInux is still on DistroWatch - the website has some preview
videos that try to show what it does.

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[Dorset] Possible Bournemouth Meeting place

2010-11-06 Thread C A Wills
The other week mention was made of looking for a new meeting location 
for the Bournemouth area, I think Peter mentioned Colehill Cricket Club 
near Wimborne.  Today I called in to ask if a room was possible - Yes.


Details are:
Location:- top of Rowlands Hill, Wimborne.
Bus route No 13 from B'mouth (approx 1 hr), will check times for late 
night but believe they run back to B'mouth around 22:30 / 23:00 hrs. Bus 
stop within 50 mtrs.
Room available FREE (if drinks from bar used!), would seat 12/15 with 
table(s) in centre. Or could use main hall/bar.

Car park.
No wireless though.

Explained situation to Manager and seems quite helpful, requires 2 weeks 
notice to ensure room set up OK.


Any thoughts?  Do we try it out next year?  I'm willing to be the go 
between as I live locally.


Clive.

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Re: [Dorset] gcc linker question - segments

2010-11-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Tim,

 Found a solution to this by adding additional MEMORY clauses.
 Possibly not the most elegant solution but does work.

Glad to hear you've a solution.  I'd have guessed SUBALIGN may help but
I've never tried it.

http://sourceware.org/binutils/docs-2.20/ld/Forced-Input-Alignment.html

Cheers,
Ralph.


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Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux

2010-11-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi,

jr wrote:
  2. Clearer organisation for data and settings saved by apps would be
  great. Whenever I look for data or settings saved by an app, I need
  to google to find out which folder that app saves its data and
  settings to.
 
 yes, things used to be easier before the 'Windoze-ification' of Linux
 started; most app's will create user-specific stuff somewhere below
 your (user) home, system-wide app settings are commonly found below
 '/etc/', '/usr/lib/' or '/usr/share'.  I find that the various
 sections of the manual often detail the locations.

It used to be that you'd just refer to the FILES section of the man page
to find this out.  There was a time when Google didn't exist, Unix
benefitted from the excellent documentation it shipped with, and this
placed pressure on newcomers to maintain that high standard.  GOML!

`FILES' can still be seen in things like vim(1) and python(1).  (If man
gives the page to you in less(1) then searching for uppercase will match
only uppercase, e.g. type /FILESEnter.)

Cheers,
Ralph.


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Re: [Dorset] Possible Bournemouth Meeting place

2010-11-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy

Hi Clive,

 The other week mention was made of looking for a new meeting location
 for the Bournemouth area, I think Peter mentioned Colehill Cricket
 Club near Wimborne.  Today I called in to ask if a room was possible -
 Yes.

Is this it?

http://www.wimbornecricketclub.co.uk/ground/

 Any thoughts?  Do we try it out next year?

Sounds fine to me, but then I drive so it's really up to those who
public transport it from Bournemouth to speak up.

Also, the next meeting, December, should be Bournemouth but we've got to
decide on a quiet night at The Broadway.  Victor, any ideas what they do
when?  Things may get busy nearer Christmas.

Cheers,
Ralph.


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