Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
On Monday 20 Apr 2015 21:42:25 Peter Merchant wrote: On 18/04/15 16:58, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, I retired on Friday :-) How long before we see you at Stewarts Broomhill between 9 and 10 enjoying the 2for1 coffee and reading the papers? I don't like coffee much. There's more to life than linux (I think). Are you sure? -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
On 21/04/15 07:21, Terry Coles wrote: On Monday 20 Apr 2015 21:42:25 Peter Merchant wrote: On 18/04/15 16:58, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, I retired on Friday :-) How long before we see you at Stewarts Broomhill between 9 and 10 enjoying the 2for1 coffee and reading the papers? I don't like coffee much. There's more to life than linux (I think). Are you sure? Absolutely. It's a beautiful day for a cycle ride. P. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Using the RDP server on Linux doesn't really gain you much over VNC (other than making it easier for Windows clients to connect). The best thing about RDP on Windows is that it hooks the graphics layer to send drawing primitives and instructions instead of just updating rectangles of pixels, which is very efficient. It has several levels of protocol though, and the lowest is pretty much VNC (remote framebuffer). The smarter versions of the protocol have never been implemented on Linux and so the RDP server just wraps VNC and tells the client to fall back to the lowest protocol level. I agree that remote X11 is very useful but I've always found that it works best for simple (dare I say old fashioned?) X11 apps like xterm and worst for graphically complex things like browsers. It's just about usable over a good WAN connection for simple jobs but seems to be very sensitive to latency, and the effect is multiplied for complex applications. One tool that I've found to work very well is x2go. I'm not sure if it's available for the Pi but I've used it quite a lot on desktop machines. There's a Windows client which works well too. http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php It's not faultless. Not all features seem to work perfectly, but it's pretty good. On 19 April 2015 at 10:54, Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk wrote: Hi Terry, I fixed my problem by completely removing xrdp from the Pi (including a purge) and re-installing it. That seems to match http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314336 and the bugs it links to. Something about whether xrdp pulls in vnc4server, bad, or tightvncserver, good. There should also be /var/log/sesman.* or similar that would hopefully give more details than that dreary `error - problem connecting' in the GUI. WRT xrdp's and sesman's status, if you find a process ID then you can list what IPv4 interfaces and sockets they are listening on, e.g. perhaps it's only loopback. Here's an example with part of Postfix, showing it listening for incoming SMTP connections only on the loopback interface. $ sudo lsof -a -p `pidof master` -i 4 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME master 1304 root 12u IPv4 8665 0t0 TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN) $ Not the problem this time as a re-install wouldn't have helped. The purge removed /etc configuration files; perhaps there was something there amiss. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi John On 20/04/15 13:14, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Using the RDP server on Linux doesn't really gain you much over VNC (other than making it easier for Windows clients to connect). The best thing about RDP on Windows is that it hooks the graphics layer to send drawing primitives and instructions instead of just updating rectangles of pixels, which is very efficient. It has several levels of protocol though, and the lowest is pretty much VNC (remote framebuffer). The smarter versions of the protocol have never been implemented on Linux and so the RDP server just wraps VNC and tells the client to fall back to the lowest protocol level. That's very interesting. I'd noted that xrdp relied on VNC for the backend and that had pushed it back to must try this one day status. The only test I'd run in the past was RDP client to Windows XP, and your description explains the impressive speed. I agree that remote X11 is very useful but I've always found that it works best for simple (dare I say old fashioned?) X11 apps like xterm and worst for graphically complex things like browsers. It's just about usable over a good WAN connection for simple jobs but seems to be very sensitive to latency, and the effect is multiplied for complex applications. One tool that I've found to work very well is x2go. I'm not sure if it's available for the Pi but I've used it quite a lot on desktop machines. There's a Windows client which works well too. http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php It's not faultless. Not all features seem to work perfectly, but it's pretty good. I see that uses NX - will definitely be giving it a try. But it looks like nxagent needs a major rewrite to stay compatible with modern desktops. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
That's possibly true. The machine I connect in to normally uses dwm, but I've never got that working. I tend to install and use LXDE for remote sessions. That seems to work fine. On 20 April 2015 at 14:22, TimA t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi John On 20/04/15 13:14, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Using the RDP server on Linux doesn't really gain you much over VNC (other than making it easier for Windows clients to connect). The best thing about RDP on Windows is that it hooks the graphics layer to send drawing primitives and instructions instead of just updating rectangles of pixels, which is very efficient. It has several levels of protocol though, and the lowest is pretty much VNC (remote framebuffer). The smarter versions of the protocol have never been implemented on Linux and so the RDP server just wraps VNC and tells the client to fall back to the lowest protocol level. That's very interesting. I'd noted that xrdp relied on VNC for the backend and that had pushed it back to must try this one day status. The only test I'd run in the past was RDP client to Windows XP, and your description explains the impressive speed. I agree that remote X11 is very useful but I've always found that it works best for simple (dare I say old fashioned?) X11 apps like xterm and worst for graphically complex things like browsers. It's just about usable over a good WAN connection for simple jobs but seems to be very sensitive to latency, and the effect is multiplied for complex applications. One tool that I've found to work very well is x2go. I'm not sure if it's available for the Pi but I've used it quite a lot on desktop machines. There's a Windows client which works well too. http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php It's not faultless. Not all features seem to work perfectly, but it's pretty good. I see that uses NX - will definitely be giving it a try. But it looks like nxagent needs a major rewrite to stay compatible with modern desktops. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
On Monday 20 Apr 2015 13:14:47 John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Using the RDP server on Linux doesn't really gain you much over VNC (other than making it easier for Windows clients to connect). The best thing about RDP on Windows is that it hooks the graphics layer to send drawing primitives and instructions instead of just updating rectangles of pixels, which is very efficient. It has several levels of protocol though, and the lowest is pretty much VNC (remote framebuffer). The smarter versions of the protocol have never been implemented on Linux and so the RDP server just wraps VNC and tells the client to fall back to the lowest protocol level. That is interesting and explains why access to the Pi isn't as snappy as access to Windows boxes that are some distance from the user. This may also explain why LXF only described SSH and VNC and never mentioned xrdp. No matter; I'm satisfied that it works well enough to try things out and I can use SCP and plain ol' network browsing to exchange files if need be. I agree that remote X11 is very useful but I've always found that it works best for simple (dare I say old fashioned?) X11 apps like xterm and worst for graphically complex things like browsers. It's just about usable over a good WAN connection for simple jobs but seems to be very sensitive to latency, and the effect is multiplied for complex applications. One tool that I've found to work very well is x2go. I'm not sure if it's available for the Pi but I've used it quite a lot on desktop machines. There's a Windows client which works well too. Strangely enough, only the client and the Mozilla plugin appear to be in the repository. I might have a look at this in more detail sometime and see if anyone has had any success porting it to the Pi. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi Terry, No matter; I'm satisfied that it works well enough to try things out and I can use SCP and plain ol' network browsing to exchange files if need be. Did you see https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/ ? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
On Saturday 18 Apr 2015 23:09:08 Tim Allen wrote: Terry - here are a few links which indicate you're not alone in the problem you are getting and which may provide a lead: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5305 (see first comment) http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jimblizzard/archive/2015/02/25/rdp-to-ubuntu-linux-v m-in-azure.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/plankytronixx/archive/2013/11/12/running-a-remote-de sktop-on-a-windows-azure-linux-vm.aspx Thanks for that Tim. As you may have seen from my earlier post, I've now fixed it by re-installing xrdp on the Pi. The only problem is that I may never know what was wrong originally ;-) -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi Terry, I fixed my problem by completely removing xrdp from the Pi (including a purge) and re-installing it. That seems to match http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314336 and the bugs it links to. Something about whether xrdp pulls in vnc4server, bad, or tightvncserver, good. There should also be /var/log/sesman.* or similar that would hopefully give more details than that dreary `error - problem connecting' in the GUI. WRT xrdp's and sesman's status, if you find a process ID then you can list what IPv4 interfaces and sockets they are listening on, e.g. perhaps it's only loopback. Here's an example with part of Postfix, showing it listening for incoming SMTP connections only on the loopback interface. $ sudo lsof -a -p `pidof master` -i 4 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME master 1304 root 12u IPv4 8665 0t0 TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN) $ Not the problem this time as a re-install wouldn't have helped. The purge removed /etc configuration files; perhaps there was something there amiss. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
On Saturday 18 Apr 2015 22:07:26 Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Sat, Apr 18 at 07:35, Martin Hepworth wrote: So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over ssh to an x-server on the remote? Can I also just say Duh? Can I just say that I now feel properly put in my place. Why didn't you just say RTFM and we can all feel nostalgic for the 1970/80s and the Flame wars on the Newsgroups? You should also write to Linux Format about this; their latest set of articles on the Pi include one on Remote access. They don't mention X either (although they do advocate VNC, which I think is a crock, so maybe they deserve a bit of criticism). What's wrong with using X11 or as often known X-windows. It's a client/ server system designed from day one to allow remote machines to display graphics on another remote server. It's the default on most Unix/Linux boxes, all be it with remote and local systems being the same machine on todays PCs. There's nothing wrong with using X11 except: 1. It never occurred to me. This may be because the last time I used X11 for anything serious it was in conjunction with Cygwin to get access to a SparcStation. I can't say the performance was particularly scintillating, so I might have rejected it anyway in favour of RDP, since, unlike the Sun boxes, modern computers (including the Pi) can run RDP. 2. I need to access the full desktop, not just some graphical utilities. I have read that this can be done over X, but see below. 3. My recollection is that X is a bit of a faf to get working, due to having set the DISPLAY environment etc. I'm sure that once it's working, it's very easy to do, but it was a piece of p**s to get RDP working (until it broke), so I used it. 4. Performance. This may be only a perception, but I see that Tim has expressed the same opinion. When I first learned about X some 20 or so years ago, my understanding was that bandwidth was the main problem, so again I probably wouldn't have tried it, even if I'd thought of it. 5. I have used RDP in a number of scenarios for years, so I know what it can do and felt it to be the right approach. 6. I can also access the Pi from a Windows box, should I wish to. Anyway, rant over. If anyone's interested, I fixed my problem by completely removing xrdp from the Pi (including a purge) and re-installing it. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
[Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi, I retired on Friday :-) To give myself something to do, I decided to get one of the new Raspberry Pis (the Pi 2), with the intention of picking up on learning Python where I left off some time ago. (The intention being that I would have something to use that would be a bit more 'physical' than the last time I did it.) However, before I could start anything serious, I wanted to sort out remote access, so that I could program on the Pi while still having full access to my normal machine - without resorting to a KVM Switch. I thought about using VNC, but my experience on Windows lead me towards Remote Desktop because it is more responsive. I installed it, it worked, I shut down the Pi, it no longer works. Here is what I did: On the Pi which is running Raspbian: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install xrdp After processing, I got a message to say that xrdp had been successfully installed and started. On this box, which is running Kubuntu: I Opened KRDC ( a VNC/RDP client) and typed in the IP address of the Pi. After a brief login dialog, including a request for the password, I was in. On the Pi: Reconfigured Raspbian to boot straight into the desktop instead of the shell. Restarted. Waited until the Pi was booted again. On this box: Tried to login to the Pi again using KRDC see http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png.[1] I then got _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png_ (no request for a password). I then got _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel2.png_ and _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel3.png._ The last screenshot shows the error. I then logged into the Pi with SSH, and proved that xrdp is running see _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel4.png_ I get the same result from a Windows box and this time I did have to type the password. If I reconnect the mouse, keyboard and monitor to the Pi, the desktop is still running, so what gives? -- Terry Coles [1] http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over ssh to an x-server on the remote? On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 at 16:59, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: Hi, I retired on Friday :-) To give myself something to do, I decided to get one of the new Raspberry Pis (the Pi 2), with the intention of picking up on learning Python where I left off some time ago. (The intention being that I would have something to use that would be a bit more 'physical' than the last time I did it.) However, before I could start anything serious, I wanted to sort out remote access, so that I could program on the Pi while still having full access to my normal machine - without resorting to a KVM Switch. I thought about using VNC, but my experience on Windows lead me towards Remote Desktop because it is more responsive. I installed it, it worked, I shut down the Pi, it no longer works. Here is what I did: On the Pi which is running Raspbian: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install xrdp After processing, I got a message to say that xrdp had been successfully installed and started. On this box, which is running Kubuntu: I Opened KRDC ( a VNC/RDP client) and typed in the IP address of the Pi. After a brief login dialog, including a request for the password, I was in. On the Pi: Reconfigured Raspbian to boot straight into the desktop instead of the shell. Restarted. Waited until the Pi was booted again. On this box: Tried to login to the Pi again using KRDC see http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png.[1] I then got _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png_ (no request for a password). I then got _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel2.png_ and _ http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel3.png._ The last screenshot shows the error. I then logged into the Pi with SSH, and proved that xrdp is running see _http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel4.png_ I get the same result from a Windows box and this time I did have to type the password. If I reconnect the mouse, keyboard and monitor to the Pi, the desktop is still running, so what gives? -- Terry Coles [1] http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/Misc/My_Control_Panel1.png -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi, On Sat, Apr 18 at 07:35, Martin Hepworth wrote: So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over ssh to an x-server on the remote? Can I also just say Duh? What's wrong with using X11 or as often known X-windows. It's a client/ server system designed from day one to allow remote machines to display graphics on another remote server. It's the default on most Unix/Linux boxes, all be it with remote and local systems being the same machine on todays PCs. At work I just ssh to a remote box, local net or other side of the world. Behind the scenes ssh tells the remote where the graphics display is located. Then any graphics utility I fire off appears in my local machine's desktop, fully intergrated, no problem. Been doing that since 1986 at least. Remote desktop and the like are just tools to help Microsoft Windows to catch up with Unix common practice. If you have firewalls or similar in the way just add -X to your ssh parameters to create an automatic tunnel. ps. Yes I have run X11 over 64kbps ISDN links. It was not zippy but it did work. -- Bob Dunlop -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi Bob On 18/04/15 22:07, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Sat, Apr 18 at 07:35, Martin Hepworth wrote: So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over ssh to an x-server on the remote? Can I also just say Duh? What's wrong with using X11 or as often known X-windows. It's a client/ server system designed from day one to allow remote machines to display graphics on another remote server. It's the default on most Unix/Linux boxes, all be it with remote and local systems being the same machine on todays PCs. At work I just ssh to a remote box, local net or other side of the world. Behind the scenes ssh tells the remote where the graphics display is located. Then any graphics utility I fire off appears in my local machine's desktop, fully intergrated, no problem. Been doing that since 1986 at least. Remote desktop and the like are just tools to help Microsoft Windows to catch up with Unix common practice. If you have firewalls or similar in the way just add -X to your ssh parameters to create an automatic tunnel. X through SSH is OK on local network, but I've always found it unusably slow for remote access. And if you want an entire desktop then as far as I know the only pure X option is XDMCP and into Xephyr. Again no good for slow connections as this is both slow and insecure into the bargain (unless you're going to run Xephyr on the remote and tunnel that). And you can't cut and paste to/from Xephyr. Ironically, Windows is better catered for than Linux with X servers that can handle a remote desktop (Xming, Cygwin/X, Mobaxterm, but they are all sensitive to the remote desktop and local video drivers, all handle cut and paste well). Then there's NX. When I tried this a few years back it was unbelievably fast over a slow link and seemed to be the answer, but seems to have been largely abandoned. VNC is (IMHO) messy to set up. Certainly with the servers I experimented with you have to define all the resolutions you think you'll need on different ports. But it works well over slow links. I've never had cut/paste work. Then there's RDP. Fast over slow links, secure. I haven't tried XRDP so don't know if there are other factors, but I think there are good reasons to use it over pure XDMCP (also, should give remote audio, cut and paste). Terry - here are a few links which indicate you're not alone in the problem you are getting and which may provide a lead: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5305 (see first comment) http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jimblizzard/archive/2015/02/25/rdp-to-ubuntu-linux-vm-in-azure.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/plankytronixx/archive/2013/11/12/running-a-remote-desktop-on-a-windows-azure-linux-vm.aspx Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR