Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-27 Thread Charles Ring
I see that a 16.1 MHz crystal would cover 5.0 to 5.5 MHz if it can work 
at all. With the 60 meter channels ranging from 5.3305 to 5.4035 MHz, I 
wonder if at least receiving might be possible?


73 de W3NU



On 11/25/2012 1128, Edward Gable wrote:

Hello Bob:  If you look at any of the 4 line manuals you will not
see an external Xtal listed for the 5 to 6 Mhz region.  Me thinks
that is because of the VFO operating at 5 Mhz and thus there
is no mix that will take you to the 60 meter band.  So other than
a fairly major circuitry change I don't think it's feasible.
Ed Gable  k2mp
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*From:* Robert Look mailto:w8...@comcast.net
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*Subject:* [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio on 60 meters USB or CW?



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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-27 Thread Gary Poland
The T-4X IF frequency is 5645 khz, that’s why the manual states not to use the 
frequencies 5 to 6 mhz. 

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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-27 Thread Gary Winblad
Like another Gary pointed out, the IF is in the way.
It will work to use a 16.1MHz crystal.  You will get images and spurs though.
If you are lucky (I haven't run the numbers) they are far enough from the 
60m channels to let you RECEIVE them... BUT do not try to TRANSMIT,
you will put out spurs that are out of the ham bands.  IF, PTO, mixing
products, who knows what...   ;-)
73,
Gary
WB6OGD

- Original Message -
From: Charles Ring w...@roadrunner.com
To: Edward Gable ega...@rochester.rr.com
Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:12:55 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation


I see that a 16.1 MHz crystal would cover 5.0 to 5.5 MHz if it can
work at all. With the 60 meter channels ranging from 5.3305 to
5.4035 MHz, I wonder if at least receiving might be possible?


73 de W3NU



On 11/25/2012 1128, Edward Gable wrote:
Hello Bob:  If you look at any of
  the 4 line manuals you will notsee an external Xtal listed for
  the 5 to 6 Mhz region.  Me thinksthat is because of the VFO
  operating at 5 Mhz and thus thereis no mix that will take you to
  the 60 meter band.  So other thana fairly major circuitry change I
  don't think it's feasible. Ed Gable  k2mp   - Original Message 
- From:Robert
LookTo:drakelist@zerobeat.netSent: Sunday, November 25,
  2012 7:36 AMSubject: [Drakelist] 60
  Meter Operation
Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio
on 60 meters USB or CW?

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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-27 Thread K9sqg
Is the issue of frequency accuracy, plus stability, not a consideration when 
attempting 60 meter operation with a 4-line?  Changing PTO frequency would 
still result in one having to deal with accuracy and stability issues which, 
for channelized operation, are more critical.  Just some random thoughts...


73,



Evan


-Original Message-
From: Gary Winblad garywinb...@comcast.net
To: Charles Ring w...@roadrunner.com
Cc: drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation


Like another Gary pointed out, the IF is in the way.
It will work to use a 16.1MHz crystal.  You will get images and spurs though.
If you are lucky (I haven't run the numbers) they are far enough from the 
60m channels to let you RECEIVE them... BUT do not try to TRANSMIT,
you will put out spurs that are out of the ham bands.  IF, PTO, mixing
products, who knows what...   ;-)
73,
Gary
WB6OGD

- Original Message -
From: Charles Ring w...@roadrunner.com
To: Edward Gable ega...@rochester.rr.com
Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:12:55 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation


I see that a 16.1 MHz crystal would cover 5.0 to 5.5 MHz if it can
work at all. With the 60 meter channels ranging from 5.3305 to
5.4035 MHz, I wonder if at least receiving might be possible?


73 de W3NU




On 11/25/2012 1128, Edward Gable wrote:


Hello Bob:  If you look at any of
  the 4 line manuals you will not
see an external Xtal listed for
  the 5 to 6 Mhz region.  Me thinks
that is because of the VFO
  operating at 5 Mhz and thus there
is no mix that will take you to
  the 60 meter band.  So other than
a fairly major circuitry change I
  don't think it's feasible.
 
Ed Gable  k2mp
 
 
 
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  blackFrom:Robert
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To:drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Sunday, November 25,
  2012 7:36 AM
Subject: [Drakelist] 60
  Meter Operation


Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio
on 60 meters USB or CW?  
 
 




 
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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-27 Thread Jim Shorney
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:27:34 -0500 (EST), K9sqg wrote:

Is the issue of frequency accuracy, plus stability, not a consideration when 
attempting 60 meter operation with a 4-line?


Perhaps, but maybe less so than the in-band spurs.

73

-Jim
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[Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Look
Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio on 60 meters USB or CW?  


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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-25 Thread Edward Gable
Hello Bob:  If you look at any of the 4 line manuals you will not
see an external Xtal listed for the 5 to 6 Mhz region.  Me thinks
that is because of the VFO operating at 5 Mhz and thus there
is no mix that will take you to the 60 meter band.  So other than
a fairly major circuitry change I don't think it's feasible.

Ed Gable  k2mp



- Original Message - 
  From: Robert Look 
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:36 AM
  Subject: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation


  Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio on 60 meters USB or CW?  


  Bob W8JHA 


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Re: [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

2012-11-25 Thread Curt Nixon
If you wanted to 'speriment, one might be able to switch the VFO 
directly in, or simply turn off the het osc so the VFO blows thru the 
mixer.  I can't recall if there is a trap for the VFO freq after the 
mixer but if you really need to get on 60M, it might work.


I have been playing on 60M during the evenings here and find it quite 
pleasant.  Both CW and SSB.


FWIW

Curt
KU8L

On 11/25/2012 11:28 AM, Edward Gable wrote:

Hello Bob:  If you look at any of the 4 line manuals you will not
see an external Xtal listed for the 5 to 6 Mhz region.  Me thinks
that is because of the VFO operating at 5 Mhz and thus there
is no mix that will take you to the 60 meter band.  So other than
a fairly major circuitry change I don't think it's feasible.
Ed Gable  k2mp
- Original Message -

*From:* Robert Look mailto:w8...@comcast.net
*To:* drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:36 AM
*Subject:* [Drakelist] 60 Meter Operation

Has anyone operated their 4-Line radio on 60 meters USB or CW?
Bob W8JHA


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