Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-15 Thread David D. Hagood
Could the list be set up to:
1) maintain a list of email addresses that have been verified GOOD.
2) maintain a list of email addresses that have been verified BAD (e.g. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
3) Check all inbound messages, such that:
  3a) If the message is from an email subscribed to the list, ACCEPT.
  3b) If the message is from a verified GOOD email, ACCEPT.
  3c) If the message is from a verified BAD email, REJECT.
  3d) Otherwise, hold message for 1 week, and send message to sender 
asking for confirmation.
  3e) If no confirmation received after 1 week, purge message.
  3f) If confirmation received, add sender to GOOD list and post message.

That way, everything is automated, 99.9% of the spams will be dropped, 
and any spammers that DO confirm can be moved from the good list to the 
bad list.



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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-15 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 08:35:02PM -0500, Leif Delgass wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 
  On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:34:45 -0700, Brian Paul wrote:
   Smitty wrote:
   Hi Rich
   
   
   Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on dri-devel? 
   Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by non-subscribers
   for approval. I'd even be willing to sort the non-subscribed emails,
   so that everyone else could avoid them...
   
   That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.
   
   What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one of my
   emails about this.
   
   I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would appear
   that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is incorrect.

   
   I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
   though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.
   
   I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.

   
   Or am I just being obnoxious?
   
   Less so than the spammers. :)
   
   I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 
   
   I'd be happy to see postings restricted to subscribers too.
   
   Unfortunately, I don't know what the list-admin password is.  Maybe Daryll 
   or Rik do?
  
  I could do it, but I don't think it's a good idea to restrict those
  who are non-members of the list. Cross postings from the xfree86 lists
  are sometimes useful.
  
  Alan.
 
 What about dri-patches?  It gets all the same spam that -devel and -users
 do.  I don't see any reason not to restrict posting to that list to
 project members.  Of course, there may be people with commit access that
 aren't subscribed.  Is there a way to restrict it to sourceforge accounts 
 rather than the subscriber list?

I've set the restriction on dri-patches and added @users.sourceforge.net
to the list of acceptable posters. That should cover the non-subscribed
committers.

Alan.


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[Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Smitty
Hi Rich

  Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on dri-devel? 
  Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by non-subscribers
  for approval. I'd even be willing to sort the non-subscribed emails,
  so that everyone else could avoid them...
That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.

What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one of my
emails about this.

I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would appear
that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is incorrect.
 
 I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
 though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.
I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.
 
  Or am I just being obnoxious?
 
 Less so than the spammers. :)
I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 

Liam

it depends


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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Brian Paul
Smitty wrote:

Hi Rich



Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on dri-devel? 
Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by non-subscribers
for approval. I'd even be willing to sort the non-subscribed emails,
so that everyone else could avoid them...

That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.

What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one of my
emails about this.

I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would appear
that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is incorrect.
 

I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.


I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.
 

Or am I just being obnoxious?


Less so than the spammers. :)


I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 

I'd be happy to see postings restricted to subscribers too.

Unfortunately, I don't know what the list-admin password is.  Maybe Daryll or 
Rik do?

-Brian




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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:34:45 -0700, Brian Paul wrote:
 Smitty wrote:
 Hi Rich
 
 
 Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on dri-devel? 
 Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by non-subscribers
 for approval. I'd even be willing to sort the non-subscribed emails,
 so that everyone else could avoid them...
 
 That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.
 
 What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one of my
 emails about this.
 
 I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would appear
 that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is incorrect.
  
 
 I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
 though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.
 
 I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.
  
 
 Or am I just being obnoxious?
 
 Less so than the spammers. :)
 
 I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 
 
 I'd be happy to see postings restricted to subscribers too.
 
 Unfortunately, I don't know what the list-admin password is.  Maybe Daryll 
 or Rik do?

I could do it, but I don't think it's a good idea to restrict those
who are non-members of the list. Cross postings from the xfree86 lists
are sometimes useful.

Alan.


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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Leif Delgass
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:34:45 -0700, Brian Paul wrote:
  Smitty wrote:
  Hi Rich
  
  
  Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on dri-devel? 
  Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by non-subscribers
  for approval. I'd even be willing to sort the non-subscribed emails,
  so that everyone else could avoid them...
  
  That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.
  
  What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one of my
  emails about this.
  
  I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would appear
  that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is incorrect.
   
  
  I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
  though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.
  
  I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.
   
  
  Or am I just being obnoxious?
  
  Less so than the spammers. :)
  
  I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 
  
  I'd be happy to see postings restricted to subscribers too.
  
  Unfortunately, I don't know what the list-admin password is.  Maybe Daryll 
  or Rik do?
 
 I could do it, but I don't think it's a good idea to restrict those
 who are non-members of the list. Cross postings from the xfree86 lists
 are sometimes useful.
 
 Alan.

What about dri-patches?  It gets all the same spam that -devel and -users
do.  I don't see any reason not to restrict posting to that list to
project members.  Of course, there may be people with commit access that
aren't subscribed.  Is there a way to restrict it to sourceforge accounts 
rather than the subscriber list?

-- 
Leif Delgass 
http://www.retinalburn.net




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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Smitty

  Is there anything that can be done to cut down the spam on
  dri-devel? Several other mailing lists I'm on hold submissions by
  non-subscribersfor approval. I'd even be willing to sort the
  non-subscribed emails,so that everyone else could avoid them...
  
  That would be great, its really starting to get on my tits now.
  
  What you've mentioned has been suggested by Alex in response to one
  of my emails about this.
  
  I've tried contacting the list mainatiner privately but it would
  appear that the maintainer listed under dri-devel list info is
  incorrect.
   
  
  I've just started running bogofilter on all incoming email, myself,
  though yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't so necessary.
  
  I'm on the dri-digest(s) option so I just live with it.
   
  
  Or am I just being obnoxious?
  
  Less so than the spammers. :)
  
  I skipped your email because of the subject line. g 
  
  I'd be happy to see postings restricted to subscribers too.
  
  Unfortunately, I don't know what the list-admin password is.  Maybe
  Daryll or Rik do?
 
 I could do it, but I don't think it's a good idea to restrict those
 who are non-members of the list. Cross postings from the xfree86 lists
 are sometimes useful.
Well Rich already wanted to proof the emails / kill the spam for the list,
Alex recomended splitting the list in two, subscribed vs unsubscribed,
allowing anything posted by a subscriber through, and filtering the
unsubscribed postings.

I mean I've heard of Viagra and Propecia (I think) but what the heck 
Phentermine and Xenical are is beyond me.

I assume filtering of sf mailng lists is not possible because filtering
on: viagra, porn, mortage - would catch about half of the spam.

Liam

it depends


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RE: [Dri-devel] DRI Mailing list maintanence / maintaner

2003-02-14 Thread Alexander Stohr
below is a sample how other lists do handle 
list submissions from non subscribers.

on a second place i know that the adminstrators
eased their job by setting a maximum hold time
after which the mail will be passed trough
unless an admin has canceled its delivery.

I would further like to know if it is possible
to install that same spam filtering on SF.net 
which David mentioned for the XFree86 mail lists.

-Alex.


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Your mail to 'Flightgear-users' with the subject

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Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Post by non-member to a members-only list

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
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