Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip

2006-11-29 Thread Russell Kellam Jr
Very good advice from both guys. I even put a GS in for stateside QSL's and 
extra for a major DX expedition. 73 Russ W4UBC
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip


I'm with you, Charles. Even though I'm a techie geek, LOTW and eQSL are 
just two more applications to complicate my already complicated life. I 
like the look and feel of real cardboard QSL cards, old radios if I have 
storage space for them (just picked up a RT-524 based VRC-12, 1960s 
vintage Army mobile VHF FM which happens to have 6m capability - the 
seller needed rent money and offered it to me at a price I couldn't 
refuse), turning the VFO for DX, and running my own one-man 
mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land.


Still, IRCs are a lot easier to obtain and exchange for postage than 
foreign postage stamps. And woe to the op who sends QSL requests without 
IRC, GS, or especially a SA envelope; he's gonna wait a long time for a 
response via the Buro. I hate hand addressing envelopes. I'd rather have a 
root canal. Or go shopping or do laundry.


73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

At 2:45 AM + 29/11/06, Charles Harpole wrote:
I found out from answering VU4AN/VU3CHE card requests that the easiest and 
fastest reply went to the one USA guy who had Thailand postage on his 
self-addressed envelop.  Also, to the several Japanese who used their 
version of international reply ENVELOP.


Those were just so nice and easy to drop into the post box on the corner 
here in Bangkok on my way out to work.


Of course, all the other direct cards were taken care of, but I was 
surprised at myself at the joyful temptation to take care of the one with 
the Thai stamp so easily.  I am sure this would not affect  the big 
DXpeditions with lots of QSL helpers, but my wife and I were chugging away 
ourselves.


BTW, maybe if u are really hot to get a card, a local postage affixed is 
much more effective than (1) sending multiple cards for the same contact 
or (2) emailing the DX asking for a special search and reply.


I love old-fashioned things CW, tube radios, listening for DX, paper 
QSLs that arrive with beautiful stamps, rag chewing, tiny DXpeditions 
running 50 watts to a dipole, and the other things that retain the mystery 
of ham radio.


Good DX to all..   73

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip

2006-11-29 Thread Fred Stevens K2FRD
Amen, Charlie! It cost me about $6000 each for my two mini-DXpeditions to VO2. 
ANY financial relief is welcome. I get frosted when ops send QSL requests 
without some means to return a card (postage or GS or IRC, SASE, or even just a 
self-addressed envelope). About 25% of stateside ops QSL with nothing other 
than their cards. These get QSL responses via the bureau. And, I am very, very 
slow with buro QSLs (3 to 6 months). Virtually all DX stations send requests 
with IRCs or GSs with SA envelopes. Most stateside ops who send a 
self-addressed envelope also include a stamp, so I'll process these normally. 
But I sincerely appreciate those stateside ops who also include a GS (about 10% 
do so) and will respond with a short personal note.

I should tighten my QSLing standards for my next VO2 Zone 2 trip (planned for 
2008 or 2009) like I threatened on my VO2 webpages, but I usually cave and QSL 
100% eventually, even if it's only via the buro. Soft brain at work.

73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

At 3:39 PM + 29/11/06, Charlie, W0YG wrote:
Russ:

You are right on!  A lot of guys, myself included, when we return from a 
DXpedition, like I just have from VK9CGG where costs are not trivial (no place 
are the costs trivial), mine the incoming QSLs to try to make that sustain 
itself.  What does this mean?  It means in my case I open all the envelopes to 
see if there is money inside or an IRC inside.  If there is, I remove the 
money or IRC, sell the IRC and buy stamps with both the money and IRC.  I mark 
on the outside of the envelope how much was inside.

I then QSL those that have supported the operation first, setting aside SASE 
envelopes for last.  It takes about 2-3 months for the mail load to lighten up 
so that I can get to those SASEs.  In the end, everyone who sent for a card 
gets his/her card, no problems.  It makes sense to do it this way for me.

The bottom line is if YOU have a vested interest in a DXpedition, then your 
input is more than likely appreciated.  If you don't, well go figure!

Let the flames begin

73,

Charlie, W0YG, VK9CGG, VK9CG, VK9XG, VK9XX, VK9YY, ZS6YG, Z21/W0YG, Z2/W0YG, 
A22/W0YG, A25/W0YG, V5/ZS6YG and a few others..

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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip

2006-11-29 Thread Tony Martin W4FOA
Personally I very much prefer the SASE...it sure makes it easier on me and A 
LOT faster turnaround.
I also find ONE card with ALL QSOs on the one card is much preferred.  I 
have no intention of using

LOTW or EQSLtoo late in the game for me.
Just my 2 cents.
Tony, W4FOA


- Original Message - 
From: Russell Kellam Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip


Very good advice from both guys. I even put a GS in for stateside QSL's 
and extra for a major DX expedition. 73 Russ W4UBC
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSLing tip


I'm with you, Charles. Even though I'm a techie geek, LOTW and eQSL are 
just two more applications to complicate my already complicated life. I 
like the look and feel of real cardboard QSL cards, old radios if I have 
storage space for them (just picked up a RT-524 based VRC-12, 1960s 
vintage Army mobile VHF FM which happens to have 6m capability - the 
seller needed rent money and offered it to me at a price I couldn't 
refuse), turning the VFO for DX, and running my own one-man 
mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land.


Still, IRCs are a lot easier to obtain and exchange for postage than 
foreign postage stamps. And woe to the op who sends QSL requests without 
IRC, GS, or especially a SA envelope; he's gonna wait a long time for a 
response via the Buro. I hate hand addressing envelopes. I'd rather have 
a root canal. Or go shopping or do laundry.


73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

At 2:45 AM + 29/11/06, Charles Harpole wrote:
I found out from answering VU4AN/VU3CHE card requests that the easiest 
and fastest reply went to the one USA guy who had Thailand postage on his 
self-addressed envelop.  Also, to the several Japanese who used their 
version of international reply ENVELOP.


Those were just so nice and easy to drop into the post box on the corner 
here in Bangkok on my way out to work.


Of course, all the other direct cards were taken care of, but I was 
surprised at myself at the joyful temptation to take care of the one with 
the Thai stamp so easily.  I am sure this would not affect  the big 
DXpeditions with lots of QSL helpers, but my wife and I were chugging 
away ourselves.


BTW, maybe if u are really hot to get a card, a local postage affixed is 
much more effective than (1) sending multiple cards for the same contact 
or (2) emailing the DX asking for a special search and reply.


I love old-fashioned things CW, tube radios, listening for DX, paper 
QSLs that arrive with beautiful stamps, rag chewing, tiny DXpeditions 
running 50 watts to a dipole, and the other things that retain the 
mystery of ham radio.


Good DX to all..   73

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Slowing down your qsl reply

2006-11-29 Thread Fred Stevens K2FRD
It never fails to amaze me how poorly some ops send QSL requests although I 
will acknowledge and understand that some new HF ops may not yet understand how 
to QSL a DX station (hence the ones sent as postcards and homebrew QSLs made 
from marker pen or typed). Most DXpeditions have a website which give specific 
QSL instructions and while there are some (maybe many) ops who do not have 
internet, most DXpeditions also repeatedly give QSL instructions on the air. 
VO2 Zone 2 isn't a rare DX location, may not even qualify for uncommon 
status, but it still costs a lot of money to get there and operate from there. 
Yet there are those who think it is the DX stations' responsibility to send a 
QSL card under all conditions and at their expense merely upon sending their 
QSL requests. Many or even most of these are serious and experienced DXers with 
1x2 or 2x1 Extra callsigns or DXCC, WAZ, or even 5BDDXCC on their cards, 
so have been around the block for a few years. What are they thinking?

73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

PS - Thanks for the opportunity to blow off some steam. I have a pile of buro 
cards sitting on my desk to which I still need to respond.

At 3:33 PM + 29/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Guys,

Good tips for getting qsls faster. Here are some things to avoid {which are 
all too common}.

1. Stateside stations sending a card through the bureau to a stateside qsl 
manager.

2. Sending the card in an envelope, no SASE, no return postage.

3. Sending the card with return postage, but no return envelope.

4. Sending the card as a postcard.

Be realistic. It may not have been a really rare contact, but the station or 
manager will be answering hundreds or maybe thousands of requests. The DX is 
not doing it to make money, but if your request either costs the DX or manager 
money to initiate a card back, or they have to provide and address an 
envelope, or address the card as a postcard,  your request will get put in the 
back of the box to be answered last, if at all. Make things as easy as you 
can! Additional hint- fold back the envelope flap, or put the card between the 
envelope and flap. Receiving a request with the envelope sealed shut due to 
moisture will also get your equest to the back of the box.

73, Duane, WV2B


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