Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: If that's all that's in this year's edition, it's going to be a real letdown. Couldn't have said it better, myself!! C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Bizarrely I received my yearbook a couple of weeks ago, and I'm 3000 miles away There are a few interesting articles in it. Personally I've never been bothered about seeing listings. I know how many I've worked, how many I need and I work DX for my own satisfaction, not to see myself in a league table. In any case, shouldn't listings be put on a website somewhere on the ARRL site? It's 2007, not 1957, so why tie up about a zillion sheets of paper with something that's out of date by the time it's printed? cheers Dave G0OIL Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:04 PM 7/23/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they removed the DXCC listings, including the Honor Roll List, it is nothing more than reading How's DX on steroids. I no longer look forward to receiving it. But keep in mind, DXCC did this in our best interest. I know they put the lists in the Aug or Sept QST, but it ain't the same. They put the Honor Roll list (deadline: 3/31) into a late-Summer QST. But that's it. It's not a complete DXCC listing, for which they invented the DXCC Yearbook to move all that stuff out of QST. If that's all that's in this year's edition, it's going to be a real letdown. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Dave! shouldn't listings be put on a website somewhere on the ARRL site? The listings, updated every day, has been on the WEB-site for a long time, however right now they have a database problem (to be fixed soon). 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC - Original Message - From: DAVE WHITE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; DX Chat Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook Bizarrely I received my yearbook a couple of weeks ago, and I'm 3000 miles away There are a few interesting articles in it. Personally I've never been bothered about seeing listings. I know how many I've worked, how many I need and I work DX for my own satisfaction, not to see myself in a league table. In any case, shouldn't listings be put on a website somewhere on the ARRL site? It's 2007, not 1957, so why tie up about a zillion sheets of paper with something that's out of date by the time it's printed? cheers Dave G0OIL Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:04 PM 7/23/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they removed the DXCC listings, including the Honor Roll List, it is nothing more than reading How's DX on steroids. I no longer look forward to receiving it. But keep in mind, DXCC did this in our best interest. I know they put the lists in the Aug or Sept QST, but it ain't the same. They put the Honor Roll list (deadline: 3/31) into a late-Summer QST. But that's it. It's not a complete DXCC listing, for which they invented the DXCC Yearbook to move all that stuff out of QST. If that's all that's in this year's edition, it's going to be a real letdown. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] 9Q1EK - 9Q1TB QSL
9Q1EK log updated on www.logsearch.de and as there are busted calls due to QRN in Kinshasa, please e-mail me if you don't find your QSO. When QSL-ing (direct only) please check SM5DQC on www.qrz.com and read what's written below the picture - we do NOT have euro mail in Sweden! Cards are usually mailed the same day I receive your letters. 9Q1TB is on vacation until early August, and I have not yet received the latest log. 9Q1D and 9Q1NT have gone QRT, 9Q1D is back in Sweden and 9Q1NT in Belgium. QSL 9Q1D via SM5BFJ (direct only) and 9Q1NT via homecall ON5NT. The homecall of 9Q1D is SM5DIC. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
Well, I sent a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I said: In one word -- phooey. It's worthless without the listings. Yes, the articles are interesting, but I get plenty of DX news already. You've turned it into just another DX rag -- an annual one at that. Bring back the standings!! If you, like me, are unhappy with the Yearbook, let them know. If you like the format, let them know that, too. N2ERN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dxcc yearbook
Jim: My XYL and I received ours last week. Tom, WW5L Jim Abercrombie wrote: Has the league started mailing out the DXCC Yearbook yet? If not, when can we expect them, if you know? Jim N4JA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dxcc yearbook
Jim: My XYL and I received ours last week. Tom, WW5L Jim Abercrombie wrote: Has the league started mailing out the DXCC Yearbook yet? If not, when can we expect them, if you know? Jim N4JA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
After standing out by the mailbox all night, my DXCC Yearbook finally came today. I was so looking forward to seeing my call in there for the Challenge award. I thought that was the reason we had to have all of our cards in by 12/31/06 so they would count for this years Challenge Award. This year's yearbook was the worst piece of junk I have ever seen since I have been getting the book. I promptly threw mine in the trash to be recycled. I hold DXCC Phone award number 2298 and I have been at the top of the honor roll for several years. I was ahead of K4MQG in the phone listings because I had already had BS7H confirmed from 1995. I'm sure he has caught me by now. The only thing I have to work for now is the Challenge Award and that's why I was greatly disappointed in this year's yearbook. The ARRL can save money by not sending me a yearbook next year. It is useless in it's present form. Jim Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] ARRL DXCC database
Hi DX-ers. Is anybody experiencing problems with the LoTW databases? I worked Dave Summer as 4O3ZZ and he put his QSOs on the LoTW. The QSO showed up that I worked him. After my application for credit, the QSO was credited to my Challenge DXCC account but not to my DXCC account as a new country. Strange, why one database gets updated while the other one not. I also noticed substantial discrepancies between the Challenge and DXCC band databases. May be it is just my accounts are messed up. I wonder if this problem relates to N7NG's departure from ARRL. Wayne was on the ball each time I contacted him.. So far my e-mail to ARRL resulted in Thank you for your message regarding your LoTW account. Due to the volume of emails and phone calls, your message will be handled as quickly as possible. I do realize I have to give them time to investigate the matter.. 73s Lou KE1F Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
What are all those DX'ers who do not have the internet supposed to do? I guess they are gonna hafta whine like me. Jim - Original Message - From: Gerry Hohn To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine I'm perfectly happy to see the standing on the WEB page. They are updated regularly and show the current standings rather than a once a year (outdated) snapshot. That being said, the Database that shows these standing is still unavailable! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
There are many locations on the face of this where there is no internet available or you will have to travel many hundreds of miles to the nearest large city for an internet cafe. - Original Message - From: Gerry To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine They could go to the nearest Internet Cafe or public library and see/print them there. Gerry - Original Message - From: Jim Abercrombie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine What are all those DX'ers who do not have the internet supposed to do? I guess they are gonna hafta whine like me. Jim - Original Message - From: Gerry Hohn To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine I'm perfectly happy to see the standing on the WEB page. They are updated regularly and show the current standings rather than a once a year (outdated) snapshot. That being said, the Database that shows these standing is still unavailable! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
A few minutes ago that page was not available on ARRL.org - Original Message - From: Gerry To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine They could go to the nearest Internet Cafe or public library and see/print them there. Gerry - Original Message - From: Jim Abercrombie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine What are all those DX'ers who do not have the internet supposed to do? I guess they are gonna hafta whine like me. Jim - Original Message - From: Gerry Hohn To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine I'm perfectly happy to see the standing on the WEB page. They are updated regularly and show the current standings rather than a once a year (outdated) snapshot. That being said, the Database that shows these standing is still unavailable! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
I don't think this is an issue of connectivity or the desire for non-computer-savvy hams to have to much through the ARRL site, etc. In my opinion, it's exactly the same issue as paper QSLs versus LoTW. With the standings printed in the yearbook, it's there on paper pages, now and forever more, what the standings were as of a certain snapshot of time. In 10 or 20 years, it's nice to go back and look at the standings and see where you and your friends were in 2007. Sure, the Web serves a purpose of giving you the information in near-real-time, but it doesn't have the permanence or the feel of authority of the printed page. I'm damned sick and tired of being nickled-and-dimed everywhere in life. This isn't a corporation that needs to meet the bottom line every quarter or face a shareholder revolt. The League is an organization who's mission includes administering the DXCC program. It's something we do for pleasure and a sense of personal pride of accomplishment. We pay per-QSO to have our cards checked, for each certificate, plaque and (formerly) pins, etc. Now insult is added to injury, IMHO, in removing the standings. At 05:46 PM 7/24/2007, Gerry wrote: Yes, that's what I said! - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jim Abercrombie To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.orgdx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine A few minutes ago that page was not available on ARRL.org - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Gerry To: mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.orgdx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine They could go to the nearest Internet Cafe or public library and see/print them there. Gerry - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jim Abercrombie To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.orgdx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine What are all those DX'ers who do not have the internet supposed to do? I guess they are gonna hafta whine like me. Jim - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Gerry Hohn To: mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.orgdx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine I'm perfectly happy to see the standing on the WEB page. They are updated regularly and show the current standings rather than a once a year (outdated) snapshot. That being said, the Database that shows these standing is still unavailable! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine
Yes, that's what I said! - Original Message - From: Jim Abercrombie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine A few minutes ago that page was not available on ARRL.org - Original Message - From: Gerry To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine They could go to the nearest Internet Cafe or public library and see/print them there. Gerry - Original Message - From: Jim Abercrombie To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine What are all those DX'ers who do not have the internet supposed to do? I guess they are gonna hafta whine like me. Jim - Original Message - From: Gerry Hohn To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Yearbook whine I'm perfectly happy to see the standing on the WEB page. They are updated regularly and show the current standings rather than a once a year (outdated) snapshot. That being said, the Database that shows these standing is still unavailable! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 7:45 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] DXCC status
I just checked ARRL's site I got this: Must be a bad problem, working on it since July 12! That may be explaining my database problems. LouKE1F DXCC Online Listings Jul 12, 2007 10:51 ET Bill Moore, NC1L mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] */*/ */Due to database problems the live online listings on the DXCC web site are temporarily unavailable. We are working on restoring access to the listings as soon as possible. /* /*/* Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] A public apology to ND1L
We might all note that Bill appears to be a subscriber to this list. For some reason, Bill took umbrage (no, he was REALLY PO'd) at my forwarding his quite reasonable response to my eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in this reflector. I didn't see anything personal, nasty or even defensive in his reply to me, and I posted it to the Reflector in its entirety, without comment one way or the other. Of course, I sent my original question to the LEAGUE, and not to Bill personally. Since the LEAGUE is OUR association, I didn't give a second thought to printing the LEAGUE'S response to this question and subsequent discussion here. In fact, some of you have since privately eMailed me thanking me for publishing the League's response. Apparently, I should have been more discreet and paraphrased the response instead of quoting it. My apologies to Bill for, if nothing else, bringing him into this discussion. Additionally, because of my many years of professional typesetting experience, I have also sent Bill a few suggestions as to how MUCH more data may be fit into less space. I have never seen any Yearbook that didn't list the members of the class, BTW. I'm done with this subject. Bill can ream me out personally the next time I bring a batch of cards up to Newington (hello, BS7H). Harris N2ERN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Dear Bill
You have my permission to quote my private eMail to you along with your responses on the DX Reflector. Oh wait. You didn't ask. That's OK anyway. hr This is ridiculous. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
Got mine today,BIG disapointment, .W5TFW Richard Joey Fiero II W5TFW EM-40 QSL Manager USS KIDD W5KID Director 6 Clubwww.6mt.com - Original Message - From: nick cominos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook Mine only contained the 160M DXCC listings W9UM - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook At 09:04 PM 7/23/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they removed the DXCC listings, including the Honor Roll List, it is nothing more than reading How's DX on steroids. I no longer look forward to receiving it. But keep in mind, DXCC did this in our best interest. I know they put the lists in the Aug or Sept QST, but it ain't the same. They put the Honor Roll list (deadline: 3/31) into a late-Summer QST. But that's it. It's not a complete DXCC listing, for which they invented the DXCC Yearbook to move all that stuff out of QST. If that's all that's in this year's edition, it's going to be a real letdown. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] A public apology to NC1L
Without, for obvious reasons, getting into the specifics... you'd be surprised at who all is a member of this list. And others. (I was shocked when a certain public official from a certain regulatory agency posted a comment to another reflector last week... had no idea he was a member. But I digress.) Many amateurs who would be considered public figures, such as elected or appointed ARRL officials and/or ARRL staff, essentially lurk on this and other reflectors... so yes, they do read most of the comments (which on some other reflectors can get REAL nasty). However, if and when they choose to reply, they usually do so privately. Why? Simple. There has to be a distinction between their personal, private thoughts and comments... and those that they make on behalf of the organization (be it the ARRL, FCC, QCWA, RAC, etc.) in an offical capacity. Their private musings may not always agree with the organization's policies. And they're human, something we tend to forget. For example: Let's pick on Wayne N7NG, who is no longer an ARRL staff member. Yes, he was a member of this reflector during his time in Newington, as a few of you also know. Wayne on many occasions made private comments to me about certain reflector posts (no, I'm not going to tell you which ones). But, and this is important, they were intended as amateur-to-amateur (and I would hope friend-to-friend), not ARRL Staff Official Policy to Reflector Administrator. In a very small handful of cases, I would sometimes refer (indirectly) to his comments in a public post -- and always with his prior knowledge and permission. In every case, this was done this way explicitly to prevent someone from waving his post as an official change of policy or procedure. My personal rule of thumb [and this is NOT reflector policy!] is and remains: Under normal circumstances, before repeating a private post to a public reflector, unless it is clearly understood otherwise, I check with the sender to get their permission. A lesson I learned the hard way, many moons ago, from VE1DX. This avoids any problems with whether or not a private post was intended to be public. 'nuff said. Go work some DX and then come tell us about it! 73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Yearbook
A computer listing of one's achievements is still ... even in this modern world... NOT as satisfying as seeing it on the printed page. Computer postings are, in the archivest's lingo, ephemeral and so in the extreme. Talk to a historian about future documentation research if u want to see a guy's face fall. An organization serves its members. The greatest thing its paper organ can do is FEATURE ITS MEMBERS. Must be engineers, not humanists, deciding to delete paper listings of all contest entrants or all DXCC achievements. PAPER FOREVER 73 Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW and a professional historian.. i.e., a humanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
