[DX-CHAT] K9W
Glad I waited before pulling the trigger on my LOTW submission to the ARRL. K9W uploads showed up this morning. Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Rotor Question
I recently had a failure of my T2X. It would stick on a particular NE heading. I pulled it down yesterday and found The ring gear teeth were sheared off underneath where it has the protruding section that will actuate the limit switch arm continued CW from there. Was it just a coincidence that it happened in that area or do the teeth just happen to be weaker there for some reason? For those that have lost ring gear teeth, has that been a common area where it happened? This corresponded to the heading of NE. Have the same question into Norm's Rotor Service. I'm prepared to replace the ring gear but curious as to why this happened the way it did. An inspection of the rotor revealed no other apparent issues. Steve, N4JQQ, Memphis, TN --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] S0RASD
I have a QSO in my log for this station on 27 Feb 1993, 10 meters. I just noticed I don't have S0 confirmed on this band. I search for the callsign and can't find a trace of it. Does anyone recall working this station? I could have busted the call but it was on SSB 73, Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] S0RASD
Bernie, great to hear from you. I appreciate it. No sign of it on the web. I will check with EA2JG. I really appreciate it. Hope you are doing well. Keep up the good work in QST. Steve, N4JQQ On 1/27/2013 7:48 AM, Bernie McClenny wrote: That's a good call. I worked in on October 19, 1987 and QSLed via EA2JG. Bernie, J77A Bernie McClenny, W3UR The Daily DX, The Weekly DX With subscribers in all 50 states and more than 80 DXCC countries throughout the world. http://www.dailydx.com/trial.htm https://twitter.com/#!/dailydx -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Crownhaven Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:36 AM To: [DX-Chat] Subject: [DX-CHAT] S0RASD I have a QSO in my log for this station on 27 Feb 1993, 10 meters. I just noticed I don't have S0 confirmed on this band. I search for the callsign and can't find a trace of it. Does anyone recall working this station? I could have busted the call but it was on SSB 73, Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] QRZ. COM Callsign Lookup
Randy, nothing has changed here. Using Mozilla Firefox as browser and XP as OS. Happy Holidays. Steve, N4JQQ Hoping for Bouvet On 12/21/2012 7:56 AM, WX5L wrote: *When I sent my original message I inadvertently left the “subject “ as DX Code of Conduct. That’s my error. This has nothing to do with DX Code of Conduct but rather a different format look of qrz.com call sign look-up. * ** *So far it seems OK to some so I need to dig into further. I am using Windows 8 for my browser.* ** *Thanks to all that responded.* ** *Randy* *WX5L* ** ** ** ** ** *Hello,* ** *I just did a callsign look-up on qrz.com and the format is totally different. It’s cluttered and frankly a mess.* *Anyone elese?* ** *Randy* *WX5L* --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-news or subscribe dx-news This is the DX-NEWS reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] The 'Lost' Island That Maps Made Up
Article on Latino Fox about Catalonia possibly gaining independence from Spain at some point. That would be nice. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/11/23/catalonia-independence-dream-never-so-close-to-reality/ On 11/23/2012 1:48 PM, Barry wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/lost-island-maps-made-103222703--abc-news-topstories.html Wonder if any of the new DXCC entity seekers ever went searching for this one. When I saw the title, I was thinking maybe it's Scarborough Reef. Barry W2UP --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Is This Old News????? DJ6SI arrested in Greece
Steve, N4JQQ RADIO LAW: FAMED GERMAN DX'ER DJ6SI ARRESTED IN GREECE In what has to be one of the strangest international legal issues involving a ham radio operator, famed German DXpedition leader Baldur Drobnica, DJ6SI, has been arrested in Greece. But in a strange turn of events he was permitted to return to Germany if he promised that he would come back to Greece for trial. Amateur Radio Newsline's Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, is in the newsroom trying to sort it all out: -- Let me start by saying that it is very hard to know what has really taken place because most of the news sources are foreign language ham radio blogs and other news reports that have been electronically translated into English. Also, as we go to air there comes a purported statement in German from the person in the center of the controversy, DXer Baldur Drobnika, DJ6SI. It was posted to QRZ.com by YO4PX after being translated by DK5KF. As that is the latest information, lets start there and then take a look at the rest of the story as it seemed to unfold. The statement credited to DJ6SI reads as follows: June 3rd, 2012, 20:46 (UTC 2) Dear Michael, I wasn't charged with espionage. As a reason of my arrest it was stated that: 1. I performed radio traffic without the approval of the Greek authorities; 2. I owned transmitting equipment which enabled the reception of other frequencies; To the accusation was later added an other point: I hindered the visualization of the content of my notebook. I would like to ask you to eliminate the information that I was arrested for espionage, or to replace it with my statement. Vy 73 Baldur DJ6SI Now, the back story: According to news reports, 75 year old Baldur Drobnica, DJ6SI was on holiday on the Greek island of Kos. That's where he was reportedly taken into custody for the crime of espionage which was quickly reduced to operating amateur radio equipment. This, even though both Greece and Drobnika's home country of Germany are both signatories to the CEPT pan-European Amateur Radio licensing agreement. Even so, Greek news reports appear to indicate DJ6SI was actually arrested under a 1929 Greek law covering illegal operation of radio telegraph equipment even though the CEPT agreement would likely superscede the older law. According to Greek ham radio blogs the accusation of espionage was based on a complaint that he was producing strange noises with his computer. Those strange noises turned out to be CW and RTTY. This was corroborated by many who notice reports of his operation on Internet-based DX spotting clusters. Quite quickly the espionage charge appeared to disappear and the reduced charge under the 1929 law implemented. And in a strange turn of events, DJ6SI was permitted to return to Germany but he was told that he must return to Greece to stand trial on June 7th. That hearing is likely taking place as this newscast goes to air. But as several Greek hams have pointed out, DJ6SI would have not been permitted to leave the country if there were any real case or even a suspicion that he was engaged in spying activities. And one Greek ham radio blog took the matter a lot further. The Radio Amateur Association of Greece issued an angry statement defending DJ6SI. It claims that the responsibility for the entire matter should be placed on the to the shoulders of the officer that ignored laws and regulations, arrested DJ6SI and led him to court. They also place blame on the prosecutor who they say was quick to suggest his conviction based on a law passed in 1927, in the year 2012. The hams also point out that radio amateurs have been complaining for years to the responsible Ministry that public services and institutions and particularly police have not been informed properly about ham radio. The association says that it's the governments duty to inform all relevant authorities about amateur radio and its operations. Obviously. This story is far from over. __._,_.___ __,_._,___ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?
When was the last time a DX operation was disqualified for QSLing practices? Seriously. Steve, N4JQQ Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 5/20/2012 9:14 PM, Crownhaven wrote: However, any operator has the right to set his own rules for QSL cards, etc. And the rest of us have a choice as to whether we want to abide by those terms. Absolutely not! No operator has a right to discriminate in his QSL policy or hold the QSL hostage in return for a contribution in excess of the cost of mailing that QSL. To do so is de facto grounds for disqualification under DXCC Rules (12 d): d) Blatant inequities in confirmation (QSL) procedures. Continued refusal to issue QSLs under certain circumstances may lead to disqualification. Any large DXpedition can - and should - seek individual contributions before the operation. I would argue that they have a right to cancel an operation if the support goals have not been met. However, the policy of not uploading logs to LotW for six months or a year after a DXPedition, not sending bureau QSLs for six months to a year after a DXPedition and policies of not mailing QSLs to non-contributors until after the end of the calendar year should be loudly and roundly denounced. Given the ease of uploading QSOs to LotW - after all it is no more difficult in uploading the raw logs to ClubLog daily which has become standard practice for most major DXpeditions - there is *no* valid reason for not uploading the raw logs immediately after the operation if not daily during the operation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/20/2012 9:14 PM, Crownhaven wrote: I'm thinking we all can make the choices we want to make. In terms of DXpeditions costing a lot of money, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen?? However, any operator has the right to set his own rules for QSL cards, etc. And the rest of us have a choice as to whether we want to abide by those terms. Let's call it free enterprise. We're beginning to sound likeI won't say it here. Steve, N4JQQ Zack Widup wrote: First off, great presentation Don! I thought it gave a great perspective of what these icebreaker DXpeditions and others to exotic places cost. Someone has to pay for them. The operators on some DXpeditions often bear a great deal of the cost themselves. I know a few people who have gotten involved in a DXpedition without knowing what it would cost them personally. They put forth an amount of money that hurt them personally financially, hoping they could get at least some of it back. Some didn't - they have not been on a DXpedition since. Live and learn, I guess. And our loss when a fine operator can't or won't go on another DXpedition. I know some of the people who were on the VP8ORK DXpedition. Some of the fees they had to pay were downright weird - and sounded exorbitant to me. But what are you going to do? Refuse to pay a fee to get your equipment out of storage? You would be in a bad position thousands of miles from home, trying to meet an expedition timetable and unable to speak the language of the country, trying to negotiate with those people. If you want the DXpedition, if you want it there for you to work, it seems only right to me that you voluntarily contribute what you can. Not that it has to be $5 per QSO, but every little bit helps. None of the DXpeditions I wished to have confirmed recently have demanded any fees for QSL'ing. But I do voluntarily send them something. I hope it helps just a little. If enough people do that, it increases the chance that they will go on another DXpedition to a rare place in a few years. And I agree - if the DXpedition so chooses to send out confirmation to contributors first, that is their choice and it doesn't mean that non-contributors are not going to get their confirmation. If you had to wait for 20 years for an entity to be put on the air, what's a couple extra months waiting for the confirmation? 73, Zack W9SZ On 5/20/12, Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com wrote: Who is demanding any fees for a QSL? Name one DXpedition that refuses to answer bureau cards? Or a major DXPedition that doesn't post their logs to LOTW (most within 6 months). Most foundations require that in return for funding. Just because someone who donates $5 gets his card first does not translate into extortion for those who opt out of supporting dxpeditions and wait for the slow method. 73 Don N1DG At 06:45 PM 5/20/2012, Don wrote: Go or don't go. But demanding a fee for a qsl is still extortion in the true sense of the term Sent from my iPod On May 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: Lou, Once again, context is important. Don's presentation was not talking about the casual DXpedition that might cost one or two people a few thousand. Yes, this was mentioned, but it was not the main focus. And within THAT context only, if I can't afford to go on a vacation to the Caribbean that happens to include a radio op for $5K, I'm
Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?
Thanks Joe. 73, Steve Lack of money is the root of all evil. S.C. From: Joe Subich, W4TV w...@subich.com To: Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net Cc: dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 8:16:51 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? On 5/21/2012 7:21 AM, Crownhaven wrote: When was the last time a DX operation was disqualified for QSLing practices? Seriously. Maybe some should be. However, I doubt that the DXCC Desk has the balls to disqualify a high profile DXpedition organizer. Seriously! 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/21/2012 7:21 AM, Crownhaven wrote: When was the last time a DX operation was disqualified for QSLing practices? Seriously. Steve, N4JQQ Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 5/20/2012 9:14 PM, Crownhaven wrote: However, any operator has the right to set his own rules for QSL cards, etc. And the rest of us have a choice as to whether we want to abide by those terms. Absolutely not! No operator has a right to discriminate in his QSL policy or hold the QSL hostage in return for a contribution in excess of the cost of mailing that QSL. To do so is de facto grounds for disqualification under DXCC Rules (12 d): d) Blatant inequities in confirmation (QSL) procedures. Continued refusal to issue QSLs under certain circumstances may lead to disqualification. Any large DXpedition can - and should - seek individual contributions before the operation. I would argue that they have a right to cancel an operation if the support goals have not been met. However, the policy of not uploading logs to LotW for six months or a year after a DXPedition, not sending bureau QSLs for six months to a year after a DXPedition and policies of not mailing QSLs to non-contributors until after the end of the calendar year should be loudly and roundly denounced. Given the ease of uploading QSOs to LotW - after all it is no more difficult in uploading the raw logs to ClubLog daily which has become standard practice for most major DXpeditions - there is *no* valid reason for not uploading the raw logs immediately after the operation if not daily during the operation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/20/2012 9:14 PM, Crownhaven wrote: I'm thinking we all can make the choices we want to make. In terms of DXpeditions costing a lot of money, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen?? However, any operator has the right to set his own rules for QSL cards, etc. And the rest of us have a choice as to whether we want to abide by those terms. Let's call it free enterprise. We're beginning to sound likeI won't say it here. Steve, N4JQQ Zack Widup wrote: First off, great presentation Don! I thought it gave a great perspective of what these icebreaker DXpeditions and others to exotic places cost. Someone has to pay for them. The operators on some DXpeditions often bear a great deal of the cost themselves. I know a few people who have gotten involved in a DXpedition without knowing what it would cost them personally. They put forth an amount of money that hurt them personally financially, hoping they could get at least some of it back. Some didn't - they have not been on a DXpedition since. Live and learn, I guess. And our loss when a fine operator can't or won't go on another DXpedition. I know some of the people who were on the VP8ORK DXpedition. Some of the fees they had to pay were downright weird - and sounded exorbitant to me. But what are you going to do? Refuse to pay a fee to get your equipment out of storage? You would be in a bad position thousands of miles from home, trying to meet an expedition timetable and unable to speak the language of the country, trying to negotiate with those people. If you want the DXpedition, if you want it there for you to work, it seems only right to me that you voluntarily contribute what you can. Not that it has to be $5 per QSO, but every little bit helps. None of the DXpeditions I wished to have confirmed recently have demanded any fees for QSL'ing. But I do voluntarily send them something. I hope it helps just a little. If enough people do that, it increases the chance that they will go on another DXpedition to a rare place in a few years. And I agree - if the DXpedition so chooses to send out confirmation to contributors first, that is their choice and it doesn't mean that non-contributors are not going to get their confirmation. If you had to wait for 20 years for an entity to be put on the air, what's a couple extra months waiting for the confirmation? 73, Zack W9SZ On 5/20/12, Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com wrote: Who is demanding any fees for a QSL? Name one DXpedition that refuses to answer bureau cards? Or a major DXPedition that doesn't post their logs to LOTW (most within 6 months). Most foundations require that in return for funding. Just because someone who donates $5 gets his card first does
Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?
I was there Friday only. Saw the entire flea market and everything inside. I'm sure I missed something. Bought a K5 Logikey. Have K1 and K3, what the hell. Advantage over K3 is it takes batteries. K1 did but for some reason, they dropped that option with the K3. Great keyers. Also splurged and bought a Pixel Technologies 38 loop antenna to see if I can hear a little better on 40 and 80. It will be fun to experiment with. At the very least, I might get better reception on AM BCB. Looked at the Kenwood TS-990S. I'm a Kenwood guy. Running TS-590S here and love it. Also have 870, 850, 830, etc. I didn't like the appearance of the 990S. Too darn big. It wasn't a working model so I might change my mind after it gets out to the consumer and someone evaluates it. How did you guys compare this year's attendance with last and the year before that? That's it. Steve, N4JQQ Zack Widup wrote: I didn't buy too much at Dayton. I ogled the new transceivers though. They look like they will take at least several months to learn how to use! I bought a few mystery boxes that are supposed to work in the microwave range of frequencies. They were practically given away so I will at least have some more junquebox parts. I spent a lot of time in the FRC and SMC hospitality suites at the Crowne Plaza. Also did the KCDXC CW Pileup Contest. I got 42 callsigns correct. Not great but not too bad, either. It was fun. In fact, the whole weekend was fun! Now I just need to catch up on sleep. 73, Zack W9SZ On 5/21/12, kf...@optonline.net kf...@optonline.net wrote: I think we've beaten this dead horse enough to tenderize it nicely We've gone from coversation (CHAT) to getting a tad nosy out of jointy So let us say adeiu and farewell to the topic and move on Let's talk about all the nice things we bought at Dayton?? Let's talk about the clown who looked at a DSTAR HT I was selling for someone for $300 and offered me $50, then got testy when I told him NO and he agrued for 5 minutes that I was unreasonable. Thanks for understanding Steve KF2TI --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?
Have you tried WF5E lately? He came highly recommended. My % of returned cards has been dismal and I'm being kind. I sent him a LOT of cards too. Steve, N4JQQ Elsie Gerry wrote: Actually, WF5E is more efficient than that. I used them for many years in my earlier QSLs days. You send Les your cards and $$ (or have an account with $$ on file with Les). He packages your cards with others for DX stations and managers and send them direct. with an SASE for return to Les. He then send your cards to your local bureau or if you pay, he send them direct to you. If there not enough cards for an economical send to the DX after a while, he send them to the DX's bureau. An excellent service for the price. 73, Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC, VUCC, WAS Card Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 ve...@telus.net http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ -Original Message- From: Ryan Jairam Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:31 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS? If you don't have a lot of money then it would seem to me that the bureau would work nicely. If you want something a little faster than the bureau, you can try WF5E. The outgoing QSLs go quickly to the other incoming bureaus and your incoming cards arrive via the bureau. A lot of DXpeditions send out bureau cards for free. You can even request them with OQRS in many cases. In fact if you have a lot of spare time and are close to the club that does the bureau work, that would work out nicely. You get your cards free and many of them need the extra help. 73, Ryan, N2RJ (also a bureau volunteer) On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM, JIM Abercrombie 4...@prtcnet.com wrote: What about us who have limited incomes? I was preparing for retirement, but unfortunately I became disabled before I was vested in the retirement system. How are we supposed to buy our QSL's? I have a fairly good station and I have been able to work all the recent DXpeditions. I was at #66 in Zone 5 from Yemen. I got my station by being very frugal with my money. If I were able I would be glad to donate and I have donated small sums. There are those who are less fortunate than me. How are they going to buy their cards? It seems to me they think everyone is fortunate financially as the guys who go on DXpeditions. I belong to the ARRL and LOTW. It reminds me of the ham I know who told me the other day that everyone could be able to invest money so they can retire, when I know there are thousands who have more month left after the money is gone. I guess if you can't afford this hobby, you should go buy yourself a kite and a ball of string. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] DX-PEDITIONS FOR US POOR FOLKS?
I'm thinking we all can make the choices we want to make. In terms of DXpeditions costing a lot of money, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen?? However, any operator has the right to set his own rules for QSL cards, etc. And the rest of us have a choice as to whether we want to abide by those terms. Let's call it free enterprise. We're beginning to sound likeI won't say it here. Steve, N4JQQ Zack Widup wrote: First off, great presentation Don! I thought it gave a great perspective of what these icebreaker DXpeditions and others to exotic places cost. Someone has to pay for them. The operators on some DXpeditions often bear a great deal of the cost themselves. I know a few people who have gotten involved in a DXpedition without knowing what it would cost them personally. They put forth an amount of money that hurt them personally financially, hoping they could get at least some of it back. Some didn't - they have not been on a DXpedition since. Live and learn, I guess. And our loss when a fine operator can't or won't go on another DXpedition. I know some of the people who were on the VP8ORK DXpedition. Some of the fees they had to pay were downright weird - and sounded exorbitant to me. But what are you going to do? Refuse to pay a fee to get your equipment out of storage? You would be in a bad position thousands of miles from home, trying to meet an expedition timetable and unable to speak the language of the country, trying to negotiate with those people. If you want the DXpedition, if you want it there for you to work, it seems only right to me that you voluntarily contribute what you can. Not that it has to be $5 per QSO, but every little bit helps. None of the DXpeditions I wished to have confirmed recently have demanded any fees for QSL'ing. But I do voluntarily send them something. I hope it helps just a little. If enough people do that, it increases the chance that they will go on another DXpedition to a rare place in a few years. And I agree - if the DXpedition so chooses to send out confirmation to contributors first, that is their choice and it doesn't mean that non-contributors are not going to get their confirmation. If you had to wait for 20 years for an entity to be put on the air, what's a couple extra months waiting for the confirmation? 73, Zack W9SZ On 5/20/12, Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com wrote: Who is demanding any fees for a QSL? Name one DXpedition that refuses to answer bureau cards? Or a major DXPedition that doesn't post their logs to LOTW (most within 6 months). Most foundations require that in return for funding. Just because someone who donates $5 gets his card first does not translate into extortion for those who opt out of supporting dxpeditions and wait for the slow method. 73 Don N1DG At 06:45 PM 5/20/2012, Don wrote: Go or don't go. But demanding a fee for a qsl is still extortion in the true sense of the term Sent from my iPod On May 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: Lou, Once again, context is important. Don's presentation was not talking about the casual DXpedition that might cost one or two people a few thousand. Yes, this was mentioned, but it was not the main focus. And within THAT context only, if I can't afford to go on a vacation to the Caribbean that happens to include a radio op for $5K, I'm not going to go either. If I do go, I'm not going to expect to recoup my vacation costs from those who worked me, either. But -- that's not what the main focus here is. You're not going to Heard Island, or Bouvet, or Navassa, or Baker Howland, etc., for $5000 either. Between logistics, licensing, boat chargers, food fuel, you're talking in the neighborhood (today) of US$500,000. Don's plea, as I recall (and Don, please correct me if I'm wrong) was that the DX community as a whole, world-wide, find a way to continue to fund these trips. Or they will stop, and the rarest of the rare will be off the air for decades to come. The cost-per-QSO breakdown simply gives you, or should give you, an appreciation for what was involved. It was not meant (at least as I heard it) as a suggestion that this should be a mandatory minimum amount that you should include along with your QSL request. Don also had a comment that more should join their local DX associations, societies, foundations, etc., in order to strengthen those organizations, and permit THEM to continue to help fund future super-rare operations. Let's not let that get lost in the discussion either. The bottom line is that we as a community simply can't expect others to go to these places that we seek to contact purely for the thrill of a pileup. Because when the costs to go far outstrip the means of the operating team, they won't be able to go whether they want the thrill or not. 73 -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Mecseri Sent: Sunday, May
Re: [DX-CHAT] Internet/Cluster Question
Thanks to everyone regarding their info on routers, wireless routers, etc. Interestingly, I can see that NONE of them work perfectly. They certainly don't appear to want to stay connected. Further, when you read customer reviews on any of them, they range from the worst ever, to the best there is. Maybe I will stick with CAT5 cable. :) As far as Internet providers, I have two choices, Comcast and Uverse for real high speeds. I'm now using traditional ADSL. It always works. Uverse and Comcast don't, at least in my neighborhood. There has got to be an alternative at some point to decent Internet service. I hope all of you are working some great DX. Steve, N4JQQ george vagner wrote: I also have a Linksys WRT54g V5 and put the DD-WRT software on it, I can say it works Well but does not have the range my Belkin F5D8230-4 does, it stays at dads house now. I don't use any router now, I built up a very low power machine based on the mini-itx Form factor and installed a 2 watt minipci card based on the Atheros chipset. The operating system is FreeBSD 8.2 and it provides routing, mail,print-serve,DNS and huge file shares. I can reach it abt 500 foot away but my laptop cant transmit any farther than that so I still got A good signal but its only one way after about 500 feet. My Belkin would reach about 300 feet or so but is limited as a router only. The Linksys is available very cheap, I paid $12 for my belkin shipped from ebay seller. -Original Message- From: d...@optonline.net [mailto:d...@optonline.net] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 9:34 PM To: jjreis...@gmail.com Cc: geo...@vagner.com; DX Chat Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Internet/Cluster Question These are the best routers I have ever owned. They are still available new. When they made the dumbed down model they renamed the good one WRT54GL (L for Linux firmware). You can get them on newegg.com. . . I just checked and they're in stock for 49.95 with free shipping. Fully compatible with DD-WRT, Tomato, etc. . . HTH 73/DX, Mike, K2CD Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: My Linksys WRT54G router (and related models) worked great for years. Wireless-G stayed connected for days at a time. I installed the DD-WRT firmware on it with good results (http://www.dd-wrt.com). Linksys no longer makes this model, but it may be available on the secondary market (eBay, etc.) --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Internet/Cluster Question
Sorry for being somewhat OT but I will give you guys a shot..I found that certain routers would not work well with Telnet, i.e., the packet cluster. I am using a hardwired router now that is fine. However, I am thinking about getting ATT Uverse. I'm wondering if anyone has Uverse and uses it with packet? Any comments or issues?? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Belay My Last Re TN2T. I meant VP6T, Sorry!
Original Message Subject:TN2T Logs Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:45:54 -0600 From: Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net To: DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org I noticed that they claim to be continually uploading their logs to LOTW. None of my QSOs have matched yet. Anyone seeing the same issue Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Most Wanted
Amen! Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick W9UM wrote: I've just looked at the most recent Most Wanted list from clublog.org. I can't believe ZS8 is number 26 on the list. I need two to have them all, P5 and ZS8 and that's after 42 years of trying. I couldn't hear Marti from P5, worked Romeo though (lol), and never heard the last ZS8 on any band. This is the black hole of Calcutta for the midwest. Carl N4AA does a very good job compiling a most needed list every year see: http://dxpub.net/MOST-WANTED-SURVEY.html If you look at top ten or twenty, many of these entities have not been on the air for YEARS. So it's expected that they would rank as highly as they do. ZS8 is ranked a lot higher (more needed) in this list than on ClubLog. I worked ZS8M on 25 July 2010, on 40 SSB, running 100W to a multi-band vertical, from Colorado. Around that time period, he seemed to show up at the same time each night, just before his local sunrise. I had to listen loud, as did he, but we exchanged 55 reports. If you could hear him, you probably had a chance to work him. And if you missed him one night, you could try again the next. Longevity and persistence pays. Some countries which were impossible in the past, like Albania, are not so rare today. Yet others like Turkmenistan (EZ) have disappeared from the airwaves. If it were easy, it wouldn't be as fun or as rewarding. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Most Wanted
Unfortunately, this might reflect the age of serious DXers. ZS8 was on the air several times years ago. I worked ZS8MI on 20 meter phone twice in Oct, 1990. Nothing since. You would think if there were younger ops out there it WOULD be right at the top of the list. I need one for a clean sweep, Bouvet. Every single time they have been on the air, I have been in middle of an interstate move. I could almost time when the government was going to transfer me based on upcoming Bouvet ops. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Regards, Steve, N4JQQ viet...@comcast.net wrote: I've just looked at the most recent Most Wanted list from clublog.org. I can't believe ZS8 is number 26 on the list. I need two to have them all, P5 and ZS8 and that's after 42 years of trying. I couldn't hear Marti from P5, worked Romeo though (lol), and never heard the last ZS8 on any band. This is the black hole of Calcutta for the midwest. vy 73, Nick W9UM War, Pestilence, Famine and DeathNo prisoners and shoot all survivors. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] 60 Meters
If anyone is interested, 60 meters now allows 100 watts, SSB, CW, PSK-31 and Pactor III. There is a new channel replacing one that already existed that was carrying some kind of government data stream since the band's inception. This was effective Friday. Allowing Pactor III on the band seems to affirm the commission's intent that the band be used for emergency and disaster comms. New channels are: 5330.5 5332.0 5346.5 5348.0 5357.0 5358.5 5371.5 5373.0 5403.5 5405.0 Dial frequency in left column. Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Ooooops
Sorry about that. Issued on Friday. You're all right. 30 days after being published in the federal register. I was all set to start working DX on PIII. :))) Steve, N4JQQ Crownhaven wrote: If anyone is interested, 60 meters now allows 100 watts, SSB, CW, PSK-31 and Pactor III. There is a new channel replacing one that already existed that was carrying some kind of government data stream since the band's inception. This was effective Friday. Allowing Pactor III on the band seems to affirm the commission's intent that the band be used for emergency and disaster comms. New channels are: 5330.5 5332.0 5346.5 5348.0 5357.0 5358.5 5371.5 5373.0 5403.5 5405.0 Dial frequency in left column. Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] 60 Meters
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Re:0
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Up
Hi Jim.best explanation so far. I wondered why the split info wasn't posted but I guess it is skimmer? Don't know much about it. Steve, N4JQQ Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net wrote: Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there who are using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??? I can't think of any other explanation. Up isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just not know how to use their radios?? I contend that it's the packet spots (just DX call and frequency) and nothing else. People blindly go to them and if they hear the DX, just start calling. W3LPL spots compound this problem because they *never* mention split operation. Here's an albeit pathological case from TX7M today - only 2/5 spots mention split frequency operation: SP7CXV 18077.8 TX7M lsn up-3 1607 25 Oct LX1DA 18077.7 TX7M QRM by F-Nino F6AML 1603 25 Oct IK6JOT 18077.0 TX7M QRMER VIGLIACCHI 1602 25 Oct SV2BOH 18077.7 TX7M over than qrm tks 1558 25 Oct OM3SX-@18077.7 TX7M up1 1551 25 Oct Also, many DX stations working a pileup rarely sign their call or mention UP between QSOs. TX7M was different in this regard, I heard one op send TU UP after each QSO. People forget they have VFOs. If they just tuned up the band a *little* before starting to call, they'd hear the pileup! 73 - Jim AD1C --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Up
We can't blame skimmer for these problems. It might exacerbate them but the individual operator is at fault. Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: The automated posts from several stations, such as W3LPL, are using their Skimmer setups to automatically post spots to the RBN and the Cluster based on CQ calls received. I believe the software in use is designed to pick up the call, but not neccesarily other information. Which proves that the astute amateur will LISTEN first BEFORE transmitting REGARDLESS of what a cluster or RBN spot says. Some of our less experienced brethern haven't figured that out yet. And some of them never will. 73 On 10/25/11, Crownhavencrownha...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Jim.best explanation so far. I wondered why the split info wasn't posted but I guess it is skimmer? Don't know much about it. Steve, N4JQQ Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net mailto:crownha...@bellsouth.net wrote: Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there who are using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??? I can't think of any other explanation. Up isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just not know how to use their radios?? I contend that it's the packet spots (just DX call and frequency) and nothing else. People blindly go to them and if they hear the DX, just start calling. W3LPL spots compound this problem because they *never* mention split operation. Here's an albeit pathological case from TX7M today - only 2/5 spots mention split frequency operation: SP7CXV 18077.8 TX7M lsn up-3 1607 25 Oct LX1DA 18077.7 TX7M QRM by F-Nino F6AML 1603 25 Oct IK6JOT 18077.0 TX7M QRMER VIGLIACCHI 1602 25 Oct SV2BOH 18077.7 TX7M over than qrm tks 1558 25 Oct OM3SX-@ 18077.7 TX7M up1 1551 25 Oct Also, many DX stations working a pileup rarely sign their call or mention UP between QSOs. TX7M was different in this regard, I heard one op send TU UP after each QSO. People forget they have VFOs. If they just tuned up the band a *little* before starting to call, they'd hear the pileup! 73 - Jim AD1C --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org mailto:imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org http://njdxa.org/ --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Up
I never said you did.. Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: I'm not blaming the technology. In fact, I never said that at all! Just the misuse of it. -Original Message- From: Crownhaven [mailto:crownha...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:27 PM To: wn3...@verizon.net Cc: jjreis...@alum.mit.edu; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Up We can't blame skimmer for these problems. It might exacerbate them but the individual operator is at fault. Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: The automated posts from several stations, such as W3LPL, are using their Skimmer setups to automatically post spots to the RBN and the Cluster based on CQ calls received. I believe the software in use is designed to pick up the call, but not neccesarily other information. Which proves that the astute amateur will LISTEN first BEFORE transmitting REGARDLESS of what a cluster or RBN spot says. Some of our less experienced brethern haven't figured that out yet. And some of them never will. 73 On 10/25/11, Crownhavencrownha...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Jim.best explanation so far. I wondered why the split info wasn't posted but I guess it is skimmer? Don't know much about it. Steve, N4JQQ Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net mailto:crownha...@bellsouth.net wrote: Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there who are using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??? I can't think of any other explanation. Up isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just not know how to use their radios?? I contend that it's the packet spots (just DX call and frequency) and nothing else. People blindly go to them and if they hear the DX, just start calling. W3LPL spots compound this problem because they *never* mention split operation. Here's an albeit pathological case from TX7M today - only 2/5 spots mention split frequency operation: SP7CXV 18077.8 TX7M lsn up-3 1607 25 Oct LX1DA 18077.7 TX7M QRM by F-Nino F6AML 1603 25 Oct IK6JOT 18077.0 TX7M QRMER VIGLIACCHI 1602 25 Oct SV2BOH 18077.7 TX7M over than qrm tks 1558 25 Oct OM3SX-@ 18077.7 TX7M up1 1551 25 Oct Also, many DX stations working a pileup rarely sign their call or mention UP between QSOs. TX7M was different in this regard, I heard one op send TU UP after each QSO. People forget they have VFOs. If they just tuned up the band a *little* before starting to call, they'd hear the pileup! 73 - Jim AD1C --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org mailto:imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org http://njdxa.org/ --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Up
Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there who are using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??? I can't think of any other explanation. Up isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just not know how to use their radios?? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Up
There was an article in the latest QST that spoke to this. I hope everyone read it. Steve, N4JQQ John Carobine - WB8RFB wrote: Logic dictates that the former rather than the latter is the case. I think we've all forgotten a time or two to engage the second VFO for split operation, but the light bulb usually goes on in just a few minutes or less. The current trend of calling on top of the DX seems to indicate there are more PC programs doing the work than engaged minds. The operative question is how to educate them. Whatever that answer might be, it will also involve changing their attitudes. *From:* Crownhaven crownha...@bellsouth.net *To:* DX Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:25 AM *Subject:* [DX-CHAT] Up Do we think there are just an entire generation of DXers out there who are using CW programs and can't actually copy CW??? I can't think of any other explanation. Up isn't hard to figure out. Or do they just not know how to use their radios?? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org mailto:imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] 12 Meters - Tic Tic
I am hearing, almost continually, a tic, tic, tic on 12 meters. Very annoying. Other ops in the area are hearing it too. Some kind of esoteric radar or something I haven't heard about? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] 4W6A Logs
I'm noticing that QSOs that show up on their log on one day are gone the next. New ones are added and then they go away. Anyone seeing this problem with the 4W6A logs?? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] 4W6A Logs
I don't know but it is sure nice knowing you are in the log. Before, everyone was making umpteen insurance contacts which kept some of the Deserving from getting in the log. There was always that twinge of conscience when you were working a rare, weak one and he came back with what sounded like the first two letters of your call only to have some moron yell UP UP right at the crucial moment. So, not knowing for sure, back at it just adding to the confusion. Steve, N4JQQ Wayne Mills wrote: How did we possibly manage without the on-line logs??!! Wayne, N7NG Jackson Hole -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Crownhaven Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:33 AM To: DX Chat Subject: [DX-CHAT] 4W6A Logs I'm noticing that QSOs that show up on their log on one day are gone the next. New ones are added and then they go away. Anyone seeing this problem with the 4W6A logs?? Steve, N4JQQ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Birds
A Sheridan pellet rifle, 5mm works perfectly here. Steve, N4JQQ Peter W2IRT wrote: While this potentially works, I believe I read somewhere of the necessity of having it north-facing. I’m still trying to ascertain whether it should be true-north or magnetic north, personally. Regards, Peter Dougherty, W2IRT *From:* kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] *On Behalf Of *Elsie Gerry *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:09 PM *To:* k...@hotmail.com; dx-chat@njdxa.org *Subject:* Re: [DX-CHAT] Birds A friend put a plastic owl on his boom and that solved his problem. Available at Home Depot. Gerry VE6LB *From:* Mark Horowitz mailto:k...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:24 PM *To:* dx-chat@njdxa.org mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.org *Subject:* [DX-CHAT] Birds Does anyone have a fairly good method of keeping birds off Yagis?. I am constantly having problems with birds. Any ideas would be appreaciated. Thanks, 73, Mark...K2AU...Fort Lauderdale, FL --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
