RE: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Because of scheduling (I haven't been in the new job long enough to take a day or three off to work DX -- yet), I only had one shot at BS7H... Saturday morning. KQ3DX was kind enough to loan me his shack for about 2 hours, which was during their opening to the East Coast (the opening might have been longer, but I had to wait for Greg to get home from work!) No, I didn't get him either. Too short a window, and I just couldn't figure out the pattern of the 20 meter op (and his annoying habit of bumping his transmit frequency every now and then from 300 Hz to 1.5 kHz, and then suddenly without warning moving back... accidentally hitting the VFO, or trying to avoid the frequency cops?) until they started to fade... and then there was a change in ops and a whole new pattern to figure out, and a band fading. And the catcalls (I really loved the one guy who went from screaming what about South America on the transmit frequency who then switched to It's Only a Bees Nest! It's Only a Bees nest!) So it goes. It would have been nice; next time. Hopefully, if there's one good thing this team did, it was to finally break through the log jam and get the license... so the next team, whenever it is, won't have to fight through the bureaucracy for years! 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen At 11:23 AM 05/06/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). I've always resisted that. Even when I was in college and we had an X9 at the club station (K2CC), it was the rig in my dorm room and a wire or nothing at all. Just a personal handicap on the whole DXing biz, but you're not going to see me whining on the cluster. Of course, I was dorm hamming at solar max last time so I was knocking down new ones (T30 comes to mind) on 10m with a 12 foot wire. heh. The club station in question for me was the Hall of Science in Queens, WB2JSM, of which I'm a life member and past VP and station manager. I don't restrict myself artificially when it comes to all-time new ones, with one exception: I won't be spoon-fed on a handicapped DX net. If I can't work from my home station I will visit a station where I can work them from (and will let me use my own call). I'll use full legal power, the cluster, my ears and anything else that will give me an advantage and get my call in their logs. Yes, I've used a DX net in the past, but would never dream of accepting assistance from anybody on that net. If I work the guy, I exchange signal reports and if I don't get through, so be it (this was back in my 100W/wire days, before I knew better). Luckily (???) I'm now at the point that anything I need will be through DXpeditions. BS7H was number 300 in the log for me. I read that email on scarboroughreef.com ... you know, the profane guy with atrocious spelling... and I wondered what piece of crap he was trying to work BS7H on because I read his comments while I was hearing them just fine here near DC on my delta loop at 25 feet, and I have power line noise! Yeah, another real piece ofwork. Now AA8CH is ranting and whining on the e-ham DX forum, too. How much you wanna bet he's a colonel or captiain in the DX Police Deptarment, too :-) Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re[2]: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Hello Jim, JRA Actually, they did TWO good things. The second was to remain on 20 CW/SSB JRA throughout the entire DXpedition, to give the best chance for everyone JRA worldwide to work a new one. Agree, everyone activating those on the top of the list should follow that rule. Can't wait for KP1, KP5 and long anticipated FR/G. And can't wait for the cycle maximum that would let me work 4U1UN, hopefully. -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
I didn't really need a super-fancy antenna system either. No stacks, no long-boom monobanders, just a Force 12 C31XR up 70' or so (3 elements for 20m on a 31 foot boom), but having a legal-limit amp and diversity-receive on the Mark V really did make things go easier. Compared to my 100W and Moxon rectangle at (maybe) 30 feet, that's big gun stuff ;-) I couldn't believe the cluster-crabs whining like girlie-men, and especially one nutjob in 8-land who needs some serious couch time - or at least a tribander, good feedline and a decent amp for next time. Exactly. This moron probably was trying to get them on a G5RV strung North-South with 100W and had done the same with N8S and other recent DXpeditions where propagation favored the Eastern half of the US. I can't believe the nerve of people who think they're entitled to a contact with the DX just because there's a DXpedition on. It doesn't matter that they're a poor operator, it doesn't matter that their antenna system is garbage and they're running low power, they think it's the DXpedition's fault. The fact of the matter is that those of us on this coast who have built a radio station that can be used to contact some guys running medium power to simple verticals on some rocks 8000 miles away are the ones who get the contact. It's a team effort, but I think the major monster DXpeditions who can work EVERYONE in a particular geographical area have made some people decide that everything must be that way, even if it's technically impossible. I worked 3Y0X from an apartment building using a hundred watts into a 100' magnet wire doublet. I got them on 20m and 30m CW... AND 40M ***SSB***. I think anyone with the same setup and some persistence could have done the same. Given propagation and the ridiculous conditions on BS7H, that's practically impossible, to work Eastern US stations with similar equipment. I'm young, I have time to wait. I'm just happy that I was still hearing them well enough to call on 20m after 14024 BS7H Faded Out spots started hitting the cluster. I made my best effort from here given constraints of other commitments, time, and money, and my best effort wasn't good enough. No whining here, but you can bet I'll be really ready for the next one. 73, Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Very well said Dan! I agree 100%. Gud D.X. and 73! N2RRA Eric ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 10:17 AM 05/06/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I can't believe the nerve of people who think they're entitled to a contact with the DX just because there's a DXpedition on. It doesn't matter that they're a poor operator, it doesn't matter that their antenna system is garbage and they're running low power, they think it's the DXpedition's fault. The fact of the matter is that those of us on this coast who have built a radio station that can be used to contact some guys running medium power to simple verticals on some rocks 8000 miles away are the ones who get the contact. It's a team effort, but I think the major monster DXpeditions who can work EVERYONE in a particular geographical area have made some people decide that everything must be that way, even if it's technically impossible. Dan, you hit the nail on the head. If you fancy yourself a DXer you need a station to cash the cheques your mouth writes, first and foremost. If all you can afford is 100W and a wire, then you're a fair-weather DXer (solar-wise). You'll do well with sunspots, but will struggle at this point in the cycle. That was me from 2001 until 2003, after which I added a little AL-811 amp (600W). I had an Alpha-Delta DX-EE at about 45 feet up. 225 countries, more or less, 5B DXCC, WAZ, WAS, too. In 2004 and early 2005 it was rough, though, and my ability to get through the piles was a lot harder. I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). When I moved out here to New Jersey I had a choice of what I could put up. I enjoy contesting, but I'm a DXer first and foremost. I could have stuck up a 3 element tribander and some RG-8 and called it a day, but I knew I wanted a real shot at BS7 or P5 if either would ever come on again, and I wanted to be in the log first-day of any DXpedition that came down the pike. I went with the Force-12 C31XR and have not regretted it for a minute. 6dB over dipole on 20, 6.8 over a dipole on 15 and 7.4 over dipole on 10, 70 feet up, fed with 3/8 hardline and connected to an AL-1200 legal-limit amp and a pretty good transceiver. If you can't afford a good station or you've chosen to live in a CCR-restricted property that's fine; nobody's going to point their fingers at you and laugh, unless you start to whinge when you can't break through the piles of the bigger operations. We all have to start somewhere, with something, and if that setup leaves you in the dust for BS7, P5, 7O, etc, so be it. Ed was on in P5 when I lived at my old apartment with the wire and 600W. I heard him exactly once, and he had a pileup big enough to choke a horse that I had no hope of getting through. That's life. P5 will be on again, and I hope my station here will still be working when it does come back up. I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to cut it except near solar max, and even then Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Dan, you hit the nail on the head. If you fancy yourself a DXer you need a station to cash the cheques your mouth writes, first and foremost. If all you can afford is 100W and a wire, then you're a fair-weather DXer (solar-wise). Fortunately for me on 30m and below that wire is 60 feet long and vertical. I got VU7RG on Day 1 on 40m CW! Now that I'm thinking about it, I shoulda stuck a phasing coil in the middle of the 60 footer and used it on 20m !! I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). I've always resisted that. Even when I was in college and we had an X9 at the club station (K2CC), it was the rig in my dorm room and a wire or nothing at all. Just a personal handicap on the whole DXing biz, but you're not going to see me whining on the cluster. Of course, I was dorm hamming at solar max last time so I was knocking down new ones (T30 comes to mind) on 10m with a 12 foot wire. The U of MD station, W3EAX, has the big tribander stuck north right now but that would have been just fine. I'd prefer to wait for the next one... I went with the Force-12 C31XR and have not regretted it for a minute. 6dB over dipole on 20, 6.8 over a dipole on 15 and 7.4 over dipole on 10, 70 feet up, fed with 3/8 hardline and connected to an AL-1200 legal-limit amp and a pretty good transceiver. An achievable station for many hams if they're serious about the DX, for sure. I'm still a renter, so a 70 foot tower is really out. If you can't afford a good station or you've chosen to live in a CCR-restricted property that's fine; nobody's going to point their fingers at you and laugh, unless you start to whinge when you can't break through the piles of the bigger operations. Exactly. Ultimately, it all comes down to the choices you make about your ham radio activities, and I think you can do things even on a shoestring budget. Heck, if I'd dropped a few hundred bucks on a used amp before this operation went up, and put up my $70 beam for day 1 instead of day 3, I might very well have them in the log. I chose to not make a huge deal of this one because I'm planning on DXing for another 40 or 50 years... I put a little work in and built the beam and put it up in a couple of configurations just to see if I could squeak through. I read that email on scarboroughreef.com ... you know, the profane guy with atrocious spelling... and I wondered what piece of crap he was trying to work BS7H on because I read his comments while I was hearing them just fine here near DC on my delta loop at 25 feet, and I have power line noise! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 11:23 AM 05/06/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). I've always resisted that. Even when I was in college and we had an X9 at the club station (K2CC), it was the rig in my dorm room and a wire or nothing at all. Just a personal handicap on the whole DXing biz, but you're not going to see me whining on the cluster. Of course, I was dorm hamming at solar max last time so I was knocking down new ones (T30 comes to mind) on 10m with a 12 foot wire. heh. The club station in question for me was the Hall of Science in Queens, WB2JSM, of which I'm a life member and past VP and station manager. I don't restrict myself artificially when it comes to all-time new ones, with one exception: I won't be spoon-fed on a handicapped DX net. If I can't work from my home station I will visit a station where I can work them from (and will let me use my own call). I'll use full legal power, the cluster, my ears and anything else that will give me an advantage and get my call in their logs. Yes, I've used a DX net in the past, but would never dream of accepting assistance from anybody on that net. If I work the guy, I exchange signal reports and if I don't get through, so be it (this was back in my 100W/wire days, before I knew better). Luckily (???) I'm now at the point that anything I need will be through DXpeditions. BS7H was number 300 in the log for me. I read that email on scarboroughreef.com ... you know, the profane guy with atrocious spelling... and I wondered what piece of crap he was trying to work BS7H on because I read his comments while I was hearing them just fine here near DC on my delta loop at 25 feet, and I have power line noise! Yeah, another real piece ofwork. Now AA8CH is ranting and whining on the e-ham DX forum, too. How much you wanna bet he's a colonel or captiain in the DX Police Deptarment, too :-) Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 10:05 AM 5/6/2007, Peter Dougherty wrote: I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference Amen Peter. However, I sincerely believe there are other factors involved that the new or relatively new DX'er doesn't have, and can't buy. It's called experience, or maybe savvy. Equipment wise, I'm not too far from the bottom of the pecking order. I have a 20 year old Cushcraft A3 at 75 feet, and a Heath Warrior struggling to get 500 watts out, but still I don't miss anything. Am I something special? Absolutely not. I have just been in enough pile-ups(and so have a lot of you) to know how to read the operators, and the pile-up. My favorite response when someone asks what you have to do to be on the Honor Roll is; Get Old. IMHO what is between the ears counts at least as much as that 1.5 KW amp and a giant antenna at 100 feet, and when the chips are down, that big killer signal isn't worth much if you don't know what to do with it. Those jokers sitting around crying the blues will just have to do what the rest of us old goats did. Wait, keep chasing DX, and learn. 73, Mike age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
On 5/6/2007 Peter Dougherty wrote: I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to cut it except near solar max, and even then Pete, your right - but there are 2 other options - don't complain if you don't work'em, and 2, make good ham friends who let you wake them up at all hours of the morning to use THEIR setups, while you're planning on putting up your own tri-bander and wires - thanks again for letting me work #180 from your place -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined -- Patrick Henry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Honest answer? I don't care what you think. I help Pete out setting up his house and station, he's helped me with mine, and will be here when my antennas go up next month. It's called friendship. Frankly, I'm NOT a serious DXer - I have 6-7 all time new ones sitting here - haven't bothered send a card. It's only paper Yeah - it's nicer when you work them from home - but living in NYC, short (and low) wires is what you live with unless you get lucky - after 3 years, I figured out how to fit a small beam - or you join a club. Question for you - how is a club different than a friends place? Brag about it working BS7? Nope - Brag about having good enough friends that will let me use their station? Yep. On 5/6/2007 W2AGN wrote: BTW, I happen to know that a few QRPers DID work BS7H. Now THEY can brag about operating procedures. The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a KW+ has no bragginmg rights, IMHO. -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Boycott shampoo!!! Demand REAL poo! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
On Sun, 6 May 2007, Peter Dougherty wrote: heh. The club station in question for me was the Hall of Science in Queens, WB2JSM, of which I'm a life member and past VP and station manager. I don't restrict myself artificially when it comes to all-time new ones, with one exception: I won't be spoon-fed on a handicapped DX net. If I can't work from my home station I will visit a station where I can work them from (and will let me use my own call). I'll use full legal power, the cluster, my ears and anything else that will give me an advantage and get my call in their logs. Yes, I've used a DX net in the past, but would never dream of accepting assistance from anybody on that net. If I work the guy, I exchange signal reports and if I don't get through, so be it (this was back in my 100W/wire days, before I knew better). Our local contest club K9CU had a QTH for a few years we called Area 51D. We don't have it anymore. It was a rat-infested building out in the middle of nowhere that belonged to the University of Illinois. It had power but no water or heat. We did have a tribander up over 100 feet and a couple dipoles for 40 and 80 up that high. But there were no rigs left at the station. If you wanted to operate you were free to come out with your own rig and put up with the rats. The antenna performed very well and I live about 5 minutes from the site. I used to go out in the daytime once in a while to see what I could work. I think I worked one of Baldur's operations from there. I never could get up the nerve to go out there at night unless there were others out there. :-) There are a few photos of it at http://www.qsl.net/k9cu 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Quote W2AGN: You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc No, a mix of people who worked and didn't work BS7H are sneeringly demeaning a few VERY, VERY vocal whiners who think the BS7H guys did something other than the very very best they could. They don't say it in so many words, but they chalk up their inability to work very difficult DX to the DX station's mistakes or the actions of the masses in the pileup. They don't understand that to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills. They want to blame someone else for their lame station and operating ability, and they want to do it on the cluster. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Dan N3OX wrote: to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills. It also takes a good bit of luck sometimes. Those that didn't get BS7H this time may get another chance, if they don't give up. In the meantime, they can work to improve their stations and their operating skills. The most impact will nearly always be from improvements to the antenna system... wise man says $100 spent on antenna is better than $1000 spent anywhere else. There are no losers in this game of DXing only winners and those that have not yet won. The only way to lose is not to play. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: Dan Zimmerman N3OX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen Quote W2AGN: You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc No, a mix of people who worked and didn't work BS7H are sneeringly demeaning a few VERY, VERY vocal whiners who think the BS7H guys did something other than the very very best they could. They don't say it in so many words, but they chalk up their inability to work very difficult DX to the DX station's mistakes or the actions of the masses in the pileup. They don't understand that to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills. They want to blame someone else for their lame station and operating ability, and they want to do it on the cluster. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
From packet: To ALL de IZ8DEO 1824Z : 10.104 the mother of the idiots is always pregnant 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 09:17 PM 05/05/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: To ALL de IZ8DEO 1824Z : 10.104 the mother of the idiots is always pregnant Fantastic! BS7H a no go for me. Gotta wait 'till next time. I should have some big aluminum in ten years Heard 'em well on 20m several mornings but couldn't pull the trigger. Very easy here in NNJ. CW and SSB on 20 on Tuesday morning. Heard on 30 and 17 but too weak to work reliably, and I really didn't want to be a hog and deprive others of an all-time new one just for a band-fill. Never heard loud long-path or evenings, but booming early-mornings, before 8 am. I didn't really need a super-fancy antenna system either. No stacks, no long-boom monobanders, just a Force 12 C31XR up 70' or so (3 elements for 20m on a 31 foot boom), but having a legal-limit amp and diversity-receive on the Mark V really did make things go easier. I couldn't believe the cluster-crabs whining like girlie-men, and especially one nutjob in 8-land who needs some serious couch time - or at least a tribander, good feedline and a decent amp for next time. I'm laughing my @$$ off, too, because this lid was complaining how hard it was at solar minimum. Imagine an operation like this at solar max, with ten times the number of low-power/low-skill appliance-operators calling with their popgun stations making it a lot harder for the DX to hear anything out of NA. All in all a great big-ol THANK YOU to the whole team for a job well-done; card and DONATION on the way. I'm really looking forward to seeing their presentation at Hamvention. I still can't believe how lucky we, The Deserving, have been in just the last two years. KP5, VU7, VU4, Peter the First and now BS7. I missed Ed in P5 but someday :) Now hoping for Bouvet, Navassa, a legal/accepted operation from Yemen. Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
