[DX-CHAT] Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) For information
We all know the reason Lionel. Some Dxers like to screw the deserving for every penny they can, hence the upsurge in the $5 OQRS etc. If dxpeditions cant be funded withou having to rely on a few hundred bucks from the QSL cards, then they shouldn't go ! It will be interesting to see what happens with the logs of T32C - will they or won't they? Tom KL7/GM4FDM On 15/09/2011 09:57, LPPS Ltd wrote: Of course Neil - rather than direct your comments to ARRL, who I understand do have the question of 160 Cards and Field Checking under consideration, would it not be better to have a concerted effort from all DXers to encourage, cajole, browbeat or demand that logs are uploaded to LoTW instantly - they seems very able to upload to ClubLog and various 'online' checking facilities to whet your appetite whilst the expeditions are in progress so why on earth do they not do theant be funded gentlemanly thing and upload to LoTW as well - surely Neil, that's where your pressure should be exerted most - ARRL set up LoTW to make it easy for all of us to receive qsl confirmations swiftly and economically. That works fine - so exert your expertise with words to the expeditions themselves - perhaps even indirectly with our Clubs who generously sponsor them - this 6 month rule is ludicrous!! Same day please!! Lionel ZA/G5LP -Original Message- From: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil G0JHC Sent: 15 September 2011 07:10 To: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) When it arrives, It would be great if 679 of us didn't have to send our ST0R card off to Newington, and could use the UK checkers instead. One day you guys may be trusted to check them. Surely if it is a printed label I couldn't have moved the dot from 18MHz or doctored the card? Does anyone know the history of the 1.8MHz rule and who I would need to contact to begin a challenge of it? Neil G0JHC (ARRL member) From: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lauriemar Sent: 15 September 2011 06:49 To: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll A deleted country would not be counted on the Current list, so I assume this refers to the recent ST0R. Can't imagine how else K6ND would be ahead of everyone else, unless it's a mistake Laurie G3UML -Original Message- From: Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com To: cDXC c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 6:45 Subject: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll Is this for 'Southern Sudan (deleted)' or 'Republic of South Sudan' hich ST0R would be? 73 Dave G3YMC On 14 Sep 2011 at 18:49, Lauriemar wrote: This is all quite strange. The latest edition of the DXCC standings -- Sept 14th, 2011 -- has one single station on 341 current countries, K6ND. Everyone else at the top is still on 340. K6ND seems to have a South Sudan credit. ttp://www.davesergeant.com Yahoo! Groups Links Individual Email | Traditional http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: cdxc-dig...@yahoogroups.com cdxc-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cdxc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) For information
Why is this heated argument on someone else's list being dragged over to DX Chat?On 09/15/11, ragnar otterstadla...@yahoo.no wrote:Weall know the reason Lionel. Some Dxers like to screw the "deserving" for everypenny they can, hence the upsurge in the $5 OQRS etc. If dxpeditions cant be fundedwithou having to rely on a few hundred bucks from the QSL cards, then they shouldn'tgo ! It will be interesting to see what happens with the logs of T32C - will they or won't they?TomKL7/GM4FDMOn 15/09/2011 09:57, LPPS Ltd wrote: Of course Neil - rather than direct your comments to ARRL, who I understand do have the question of 160 Cards and Field Checking under consideration, would it not be better to have a concerted effort from all DXers to encourage, cajole, browbeat or demand that logs are uploaded to LoTW instantly - they seems very able to upload to ClubLog and various 'online' checking facilities to whet your appetite whilst the expeditions are in progress so why on earth do they not do theant be funded gentlemanly thing and upload to LoTW as well - surely Neil, that's where your pressure should be exerted most - ARRL set up LoTW to make it easy for all of us to receive qsl confirmations swiftly and economically. That works fine - so exert your expertise with words to the expeditions themselves - perhaps even indirectly with our Clubs who generously sponsor them - this 6 month rule is ludicrous!! Same day please!! Lionel ZA/G5LP -Original Message- From: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil G0JHC Sent: 15 September 2011 07:10 To: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) When it arrives, It would be great if 679 of us didn't have to send our ST0R card off to Newington, and could use the UK checkers instead. One day you guys may be trusted to check them. Surely if it is a printed label I couldn't have moved the dot from 18MHz or doctored the card? Does anyone know the history of the 1.8MHz rule and who I would need to contact to begin a challenge of it? Neil G0JHC (ARRL member) From: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Lauriemar Sent: 15 September 2011 06:49 To: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll A deleted country would not be counted on the Current list, so I assume this refers to the recent ST0R. Can't imagine how else K6ND would be ahead of everyone else, unless it's a mistake Laurie G3UML -Original Message- From: Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com mailto:dave%40davesergeant.com To: cDXC c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com mailto:cDXC%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 6:45 Subject: [CDXC] Re: Honor Roll Is this for 'Southern Sudan (deleted)' or 'Republic of South Sudan' hich ST0R would be? 73 Dave G3YMC On 14 Sep 2011 at 18:49, Lauriemar wrote: This is all quite strange. The latest edition of the DXCC standings -- Sept 14th, 2011 -- has one single station on 341 current countries, K6ND. Everyone else at the top is still on 340. K6ND seems to have a South Sudan credit. ttp://www.davesergeant.com Yahoo! Groups Links Individual Email | Traditional http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/* Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDXC/join (Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email: cdxc-dig...@yahoogroups.com cdxc-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: cdxc-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org--- ---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA
RE: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) For information
All IMO, you're looking at the QSL situation the wrong way. First off saying Some DXers like to screw the deserving for every penny is a rather broad brush comment that is really out of line. Yeah, we all know of a few (a very small few) who abused the sport for personal gain. So let's knock off those sorts of comments. I'll turn the If dxpeditions cant be funded without having to rely on a few hundred bucks from the QSL cards, then they shouldn't go! comment around. How much money do you have invested in your station? $5k? $10k? More? People sure like to brag about their equipment and antennas and what they've invested, yet they complain about sending $5 to confirm an operation? Especially when the operators went to personal expense, took weeks off work/away from family and in some cases were at personal risk. I don't get it. It's NOT about FUNDING. It's about SHOWING YOUR APPRECIATION FOR WHAT THESE PEOPLE DID FOR THE HOBBY. Come on, stop being such cheap-skates when it comes to QSLing the big DXPeditions! On to the subject of QSL checking. And I can speak from experience on the matter as I did manage the prestigious WAZ Award for a number of years. I hate to say this, but not every QSL checker (even if a veteran DXer) really understands how to check cards. CQ works through some national radio societies and sometimes the person they appoint might not be the best suited for the task. What's the risk you ask? It's NOT with big operations like ST0R. Those cards are pretty solid. It's the run of the mill DX (as viewed across the country list). How many of you have received blank QSL cards? I saw 160 cards that were not doctored as such, but they were fakes. How did I know? I understand propagation! When I got a card from a station in zone 15, telling me he worked zone 31 at 1300Z on 160 meters, I called BS and asked the guy to please check to see if the card was filled out incorrectly as there was no way a QSO on 160 from 15 to zone 31 could take place at such a time. So, am I saying QSL checkers don't know what they are doing? NOT AT ALL. But as an award administrator, you have to balance the integrity of the program within the APPLICATION OF THE RULES. 160 meters is a pretty specialized band as is 6 Meters. Why would you want to see someone get an award for these two challenging bands through fraudulent means? If maintaining the integrity of the award demands more specialized checking, so be it. Do I think it seems rather silly that a DXCC (or WAZ) Field Checker can't approve a 160 meter QSO as indicated on a card from ST0R when he can approve QSL for all the other bands? Yeah, I suppose so. Maybe there is a REASONABLE way to resolve this, but that's another subject entirely. Look at it from the Award Administrator point of view, we can't open ourselves up to managing awards based on the exception to the rule. That leads to inconsistencies and cries of unfair. Vy 73 Paul K5RT _ From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of ragnar otterstad Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:27 AM To: njdxa; d...@dxhf.darc.de Subject: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) For information We :-? tenker http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/28.gif all know the reason Lionel.Some Dxers like to screw the deserving for every penny they can, hence the upsurge in the $5 OQRS etc.If dxpeditions cant be funded withou having to rely on a few hundred bucks from the QSL cards, then they shouldn't go ! It will be interesting to see what happens with the logs of T32C - will they or won't they? Tom KL7/GM4FDM On 15/09/2011 09:57, LPPS Ltd wrote: Of course Neil - rather than direct your comments to ARRL, who I understand do have the question of 160 Cards and Field Checking under consideration, would it not be better to have a concerted effort from all DXers to encourage, cajole, browbeat or demand that logs are uploaded to LoTW instantly - they seems very able to upload to ClubLog and various 'online' checking facilities to whet your appetite whilst the expeditions are in progress so why on earth do they not do theant be funded gentlemanly thing and upload to LoTW as well - surely Neil, that's where your pressure should be exerted most - ARRL set up LoTW to make it easy for all of us to receive qsl confirmations swiftly and economically. That works fine - so exert your expertise with words to the expeditions themselves - perhaps even indirectly with our Clubs who generously sponsor them - this 6 month rule is ludicrous!! Same day please!! Lionel ZA/G5LP -Original Message- From: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil G0JHC Sent: 15 September 2011 07:10 To: c...@yahoogroups.com mailto:CDXC%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CDXC] Re: Honor
RE: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll (ST0R and checkers) For information
Some people in DX community are taking DXpeditions for granted. Here is the message from K3NA looking for operators willing to go to two major DXpeditions in 2012: http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/cq-contest/2011-August/095257.html Financial and 'free days' requirements are listed at the bottom, but before you scroll to the bottom of the E-mail check other requirements people going to those DXpeditions should have. 73's Boris E73Y --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll
However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole.. Or do so from Northern Europe where signals are many dB down and openings are always shorter in than in Southern Europe. Also we have to break through the wall of Italians and their chaotic random-calling-till-doomsday-for-maximum-QRM technique in order to work anything. cheers D --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Urb LeJeune u...@w2dec.com wrote: From: Urb LeJeune u...@w2dec.com Subject: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 10:06 PM Amen Dan!!! Nobody cares except the guys who achieved HR and 5BDXCC. Making the honor roll is like building a 3 BR Ranch House: given enough time and the proper tools, virtually anyone could do it. Upon completion, only family members will notice. However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole and you will bask in the sunshine of almost everyone. Urb, W2DEC --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Honor Roll
Amen Dan!!! Nobody cares except the guys who achieved HR and 5BDXCC. Making the honor roll is like building a 3 BR Ranch House: given enough time and the proper tools, virtually anyone could do it. Upon completion, only family members will notice. However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole and you will bask in the sunshine of almost everyone. Urb, W2DEC --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll
Right on Urb and I would add QRP to that also. Russ W4UBC - Original Message - From: Urb LeJeune To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll Amen Dan!!! Nobody cares except the guys who achieved HR and 5BDXCC. Making the honor roll is like building a 3 BR Ranch House: given enough time and the proper tools, virtually anyone could do it. Upon completion, only family members will notice. However, make the honor roll with 150 watts and a dipole and you will bask in the sunshine of almost everyone. Urb, W2DEC --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll submission deadline?
--- Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pse refresh my memory. Is there a submission deadline for Honor Roll listings? I poked around the ARRL web site, but can't find anything about it. You could ask the ARRL DXCC desk. It's usually March 30, but my recollection is that they moved it back to December 31, 2007 this year so that people could get their #1 credit without having worked/confirmed St. Barts. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Honor Roll submission deadline?
Pse refresh my memory. Is there a submission deadline for Honor Roll listings? I poked around the ARRL web site, but can't find anything about it. Tnx, Barry -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll submission deadline?
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: --- Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pse refresh my memory. Is there a submission deadline for Honor Roll listings? I poked around the ARRL web site, but can't find anything about it. You could ask the ARRL DXCC desk. It's usually March 30, but my recollection is that they moved it back to December 31, 2007 this year so that people could get their #1 credit without having worked/confirmed St. Barts. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Good idea! I did and Bill Moore said it's Dec 31 for 2007 and St. Barts will not be included until the 2008 listing in 2009. -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll, Top of the Honor Roll
Well that may be true but you can't take you transceiver or antenna's with you either.. As you can guess I submit, grind out the cash and wait. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [DX-Chat] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:28 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Honor Roll, Top of the Honor Roll Well, I have 327 cfmd on CW with 100W and vertical/wires. I have not even sent my cards in to the the ARRL DXCC desk. Sure, some might not be good counters due to lack of documentation or other reasons, but to me they all good. What really that great about being on the Honor Roll and the Honor Roll plaque when you pass from this QTH. You can't take it with you. I know what I have accomplished, and for me that is a great reward in itself. I work DX for the sheer fun of it and the great feeling of working a new one (like H44VV Mon Morn - a new one on 40M CW). Another great pleasure is getting those very nice picture QSL cards. Now I know everyone has their own goals, and I am certainly NOT berating the DXCC program or those who have the goal of Honor Roll or Top of Honor Roll. If your goal is Top of Honor Roll, hope you are not too dissapointed as there are a lot of entities out there that I will probably not see activated in my life time, and you may not see activated in your life time. So, work the DX for the fun of it and let the pudding come as it may :-) As Tony, W4FOA said, this is my $ 0.03 worth :-) :-) 73 and Good DX All, Larry K4WLS Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Honor Roll
Received today results from last DXCC submission, and I'm fortunate to have achieved Honor Roll! This is not a brag, just a heartfelt thanks to all that made it possible! Over the years, I have found that working them is only a small part of the battle! Without those that traveled on various DXPedetions, others that live/operate from sparsely populated areas, the thoughtfulness of those that did respond to QSL requests, the many QSL managers that continue to do a thankless job, and the DX community in general, this hobby would cease to be of little interest to me! For fear of omitting anyone, I will just say: THANKS TO ALL C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
