[DX-CHAT] ] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-12 Thread Ragnar Otterstad
I am starting to understand why IOTA is becoming increasingly popular !

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RE: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Ragnar Otterstad

If it's an exotic location, I can understand the excitement.

However, when new DXCC entities are created out of relatively common, 
easy to work entities, due to political changes  (YU, PJ, etc.) I view 
it as more of a pain in the a** having to work them and collect QSLs to 
maintain my position on the Honor Roll. 

What's your view?
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Re: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)

At 09:29 AM 12/11/2007, you wrote:
I view it as more of a pain in the xxx having to work them and 
collect QSLs to maintain my position on the Honor Roll.

What's your view?


Barry, I'll vote with you.  Creating entities for the sake of 
creating entities is a waste.
Unfortunately, however, we must consider that the legal status of 
some of these islands is changing, and that complicates the matter 
with the DXCC rules.  IMHO, a more reasonable solution would be to 
change the DXCC rules to allow these entities to remain as they are 
in their DXCC status. All the DXCC Desk needs is something to further 
complicate their life.


73,
Mike, W5UC,

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Re: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX
I view
it as more of a pain in the a** having to work them and collect QSLs to
maintain my position on the Honor Roll.

Shouldn't someone who's working harder than you get to take your spot?

The rules are the rules Re: addition of new entities and I would say
new political entities are about the cleanest, easiest call there...
new country = new country!

I think it's good for DXing to add new easy ones.  It's good for
people with limited setups to have some excitement and it does provide
a way for Honor Rollers who aren't doing anything to have their
standings decay  and make room for new guys.

Besides, don't you want to eventually be pushing 390 active+deleted
someday?  ;-)

73,
Dan


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Re: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Dougherty

At 10:29 AM 12/11/2007, Barry wrote:

If it's an exotic location, I can understand the excitement.

However, when new DXCC entities are created out of relatively 
common, easy to work entities, due to political changes  (YU, PJ, 
etc.) I view it as more of a pain in the a** having to work them and 
collect QSLs to maintain my position on the Honor Roll.

What's your view?


PITA, yes, but when you're bored silly and 5 or 6 new entities all 
come on at once (i.e. a year from now in the Caribbean), it will make 
for some Hot Times on the Old Bands. Personally, I love busting 
pileups so it'll be fun for me, especially if I can get all of them 
on 9 bands/3 modes in as short a time as possible. I'm also hoping to 
travel down for a first-activation of one of these, something that 
just wouldn't be possible to some far-flung island at the end of nowhere.




Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT 




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Re: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Dougherty

At 11:23 AM 12/11/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote:


Besides, don't you want to eventually be pushing 390 active+deleted
someday?  ;-)


Remember, too, that's the *only* way newcomers will ever get high 
totals since there will never be another deleted entity according 
to the revised rules. As older DXers leave us, new DXers won't ever 
see those truly high numbers until more entities get created over the years.


I'm really waiting for the other shoe to drop, however--the first 
time an entity is removed from the list and all credits just go away 
instantly. THAT will be an uproar that will reverberate throughout 
the Hallowed Halls Of Newington.




Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT 




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Re: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Don Greenbaum
Imagine how boring this hobby would be if there were no more new entities 
since 1962 when I got licensed?  So it's complicated?  What in life is not?


I am also into racing cars.  New bigger engines come out and we go 
faster.  Should I be happy driving a 357 ci car when there are 630ci 
engines out there?


I say, let's complicate the life of Bill Moore and push our dxcc totals 
over 400!!!


DX-IS

Don
N1DG
Number 1 Honor Roll and ready for more.





At 11:14 AM 12/11/2007, Mike(W5UC)  Kathy(K5MWH) wrote:

At 09:29 AM 12/11/2007, you wrote:
I view it as more of a pain in the xxx having to work them and collect 
QSLs to maintain my position on the Honor Roll.

What's your view?


Barry, I'll vote with you.  Creating entities for the sake of creating 
entities is a waste.
Unfortunately, however, we must consider that the legal status of some of 
these islands is changing, and that complicates the matter with the DXCC 
rules.  IMHO, a more reasonable solution would be to change the DXCC rules 
to allow these entities to remain as they are in their DXCC status. All 
the DXCC Desk needs is something to further complicate their life.


73,
Mike, W5UC,



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RE: [DX-CHAT] How do you view new DXCC countries?

2007-12-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 If it's an exotic location, I can understand the excitement.
 
 However, when new DXCC entities are created out of relatively 
 common, easy to work entities, due to political changes  (YU, 
 PJ, etc.) I view it as more of a pain in the a** having to work 
 them and collect QSLs to maintain my position on the Honor Roll. 

I would much rather see new entities created due to political 
changes in inhabited areas like YU, PJ, etc. than see another 
new entity on a 25 square foot rock in the middle of nowhere or 
an island owned entirely by a private party who can restrict 
access.   

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


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 If it's an exotic location, I can understand the excitement.
 
 However, when new DXCC entities are created out of relatively common, 
 easy to work entities, due to political changes  (YU, PJ, 
 etc.) I view 
 it as more of a pain in the a** having to work them and 
 collect QSLs to 
 maintain my position on the Honor Roll. 
 
 What's your view?
 73,
 Barry W2UP
 



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