[e-gold-list] Yet antother e-gold scam

2003-11-28 Thread Remco Boom
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[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Gold Price
Dear Viking Coder,
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Or... Is the following statement not true?
1g e-gold = 1g pecunix = 1g e-bullion = 1g goldmoney
The gold price per gram is different for e-gold
and e-bullion while Pecunix and GoldMoney use the same price but
are different again.
Here is a snap shot of the current gold price per gram at the time of 
writing
for the major gold currencies:

e-gold: 12.745 US/ AUG
1mdc: 12.745 US/ 1mdc gram
Pecunix:  12.7251 US/ GAU
GoldMoney: 12.72 US/ goldgram
e-bullion: 12.73 US/g
IntGold: 12.25US/g ???
Regards,

Joel Bruce
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[e-gold-list] GoldNow has full range of services with Pecunix.com

2003-11-28 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys,

I'll be happy to exchange your e-gold, INTGold or most ecurrencies, into
Pecunix.com gold. You can also purchase/fund your debit card via GoldNow
using Pecunix gold, and of course you can purchase Pecunix gold from us,
either by direct deposit in more than a dozen countries, or by credit
card. We are also keen to outexchange your Pecunix gold into cash,
worldwide.

I am impressed with the Pecunix security model. I have never seen better.

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[e-gold-list] DDOS protection

2003-11-28 Thread FileMatrix
I don't know if this would work, but...

When a server is under DDOS attack it should redirecting each access request
to a page designed to authenticate a human user. This page would have a
basic layout (with a very small size):
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Site URL

The server which hosts this site is currently under DDOS attack. To protect
against this, you need to be authenticated as a human being by typing the
following Turing number:

Turing number __ Type here __

Note that the navigation of the site will be slower than usual.
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This way, the server would know that a specific IP address is used by a
human being, and thus allow it to access the original URL. The IP address is
allowed access for the next hour, after which time a new Turing number is
requested from the user to type.

Since the attacker could try this and obtain a valid IP address to use for
the attack, while the server is under attack it should monitor how fast
valid IPs try to access the server. If the access is to fast (compared with
the normal behavior of a human being), the server could block that IP.


George Hara




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[e-gold-list] Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread James M. Ray
Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except:

http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html 

please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you
have not tried Mozilla, you're missing something very good. You
will thank me (just for tabbed browsing) if you try it.
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[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Robert B.Z.
 
 How would such a conglomerated gold currency be a fiat currency?
 
Sorry about the term abuse. I often use fiat incorrectly because of the
insecurities it implies and because I want to differenciate from other
digital currencies.

While my idea of fiat is not necessarily correct I do assess it in the
same way I assess DisneyDollars which, strictly speaking are not fiat
because they are not issued by a government - but neither are the Euro or
the US dollar. In fact, the mere existence of an independent reserve bank
preempts the use of fiat, if you want to insist on proper term usage.
After all, the Federal Reserve is not a government body...
 
 Or... Is the following statement not true?
 
 1g e-gold = 1g pecunix = 1g e-bullion = 1g goldmoney

No it is untrue on two counts:
(1) 1g e-gold = (1g sth else - minus exchange fees)
(2) all other currencies combined can not bring up the same amount of
gramms in circulation. Hence wile 1g e-gold might be close to 1g sth else,
2tonnes e-gold isn't, because there isn't enough something else.
Exemption is of course 1mdc/fastgrams which is backed and redeemable for
e-gold.
 
Either way, I think the main concerns are not two words I used and their
dictionary meanings, but the fact that for 1g comgold to be redeemable for
gold, you need to look at it as 100/100g comgold, redeemable for 40/100g
of e-gold, etc... Hence there has to be actual proof of the gold holdings
for each currency, or a garantee by the operator of the currency, which in
turn means that you have to have 100/100g comgold to have a chance to call
in a promise - unless comgold will allow me to used 40g of comgold to get
e-gold, which will then itself create an imbalance of the fractual
percentage of the holding reserves of comgold in other currencies, which
in turn would change the 40g relative rate into something slightly lower,
which finally means that I will make a fraction of a gram profit by
exchanging comgold for e-gold - which of course, means that comgold can't
allow that to happen, which in turn means that comgold is ipso facto not
redeemable...
If however comgold did allow me to change 40g of comgold into 40g of
e-gold, then I'd like to park a couple of tons in your back yard please
and drive off with couple of tons of e-gold redeemed bullion at a profit
of a few KG, depending on the overall volume of comgold in circulation.

In other words, if there are 1,000,000g comgold in circulation and I grab
40% of that and e-gold represents 40% of the comgold reserver and I
exchange 10% or 100,000g of comgold for e-gold, then e-gold suddenly is
only 36% of the total and the 4% difference are holdings of comgold in
comgold, right? But as that can't be, because comgold is not fiat, the
percentage of pecinux and others has to increase. Suddenly I get e-gold
for comgold at 4% below the basket fraction. I keep doing this until
e-gold is 0% of comgold and then use e-gold to buy the now undervalued
other currencies. Doing that a few times (while comgold needs to issue
more hypothetical grams to keep me at bay, I end up controlling large
chunks of all currencies and comgold keeps paying the difference by
issuing new comgold-gs to the exchangers - which now stopped being
redeemable.

If you ask me, I'd call it fiat - for lack of a better term.

Cheers,
Robert.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Asiana Gold
JMR wrote:
Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except:

http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html

please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you
have not tried Mozilla, you're missing something very good. You
will thank me (just for tabbed browsing) if you try it.
JMR
Happy Birthday Jim!

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[e-gold-list] UFO progress!

2003-11-28 Thread Westgarth Books


Guys,

A very quick update on my UFO Gyrocopter project... the NZ
inventer/designer, Mac, advises that we now need the Subaru 2.2 litre
engine tuned to the LINK computer needed to run/manage the engine, and
yesterday we arranged a local car performance guy to install the LINK
computer, then dyno-tune the motor to the computer etc etc. The LINK
computer is designed and made in Christchurch, NZ, I believe.

I do trust you've given your e-currency passwords etc. to your next of kin before you 
make the first trans-Tasman gyrocopter flight?

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[e-gold-list] Yet antother e-gold scam?

2003-11-28 Thread David Devore

I stumbled on a site that offered 128% in usd for
e-gold.I assumed it was a con..yes???

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[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Robert B.Z.
Happy Birthday JRM !!!
May you live long and prosper ;o)

Cheers,
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[e-gold-list] Will December make or break the Internet?

2003-11-28 Thread Michael Moore


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34163.html



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[e-gold-list] WARNING! Fraudulent URL links in a spoof GoldNow email!

2003-11-28 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys,

This is a *Warning* about emailed URL links!

Today a large number of people received a spoof email, allegedly from
GoldNow. The hackers are at work! Please be aware that GoldNow never
sends any emails out that require you to click on a link, apart from the
generic GoldNow URL (and apart from my gyroplane pictures at Webshots!)
If you receive an email that looks like an invitation to complete or
cancel an order transaction by clicking on a emailed link, it's simply
a crook trying to steal your password, ultimately to steal your money.
Be warned.

GoldNow has a hands on approach when dealing with customer
queries/issues/complaints. We don't email links purporting to fix or
resolve issues. Normally, we pick up the phone, or use other secure ways
of contacting you.

GoldNow has an order driven process, rather than a customer login
process, on purpose. This avoids crooks stealing logins and passwords,
and we do allow *anyone* to enter orders. That information supplied is
then automatically checked for fraud (our system was invented by us, and
developed by us), and all orders are manually checked for authenticity,
which explains the initial delay for ecurrency delivery. We are not
apologizing for that. We have completed well over 30,000 credit card
transactions, and been stung by crooks less than 60 times. Having said
that, we DO receive, on average, $500,000 fraudulent credit card orders
per month. A BIG thank you to the crooks for giving us their
information, especially their ecurrency account numbers and IP
addresses. I'm proud to confess that last month we were directly
responsible in getting a credit card thief apprehended, at a leading US
University. The crook was a tutor.

A number a law enforcement agencies in a handful of countries are now
being educated by myself, on addressing the anti-fraud issues, with the
objective of apprehending crooks. It's working.

Incidently, we don't use the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[e-gold-list] Re: UFO progress!

2003-11-28 Thread Graham Kelly
WB,

LOL, YOU of little faith!

I'm planning on YOU being my first passenger!

Seriously, I'm looking forward to flying from the top of NZ, to Norfolk
Island, then Lord Howe Island, then OZ. I'll be processing ecurrency
orders at 10,000 feet on my laptop (via GPRS, when in actual range),
flying along at 100mph. I'll also be catching crooks!

I'm excited!

GK

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:05:37 -0800 (PST), Westgarth Books
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 A very quick update on my UFO Gyrocopter project... the NZ
 
 I do trust you've given your e-currency passwords etc. to your next of
 kin before you make the first trans-Tasman gyrocopter flight?

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[e-gold-list] Re: Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Space Gold
Our hearty congratulations Jim!

Regards,
Paul
www.spacegold.com

 Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except:

 http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html

 please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, and if you
 have not tried Mozilla, you're missing something very good. You
 will thank me (just for tabbed browsing) if you try it.
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[e-gold-list] Re: comglomerated gold

2003-11-28 Thread Sidd
Robert,

Robert B.Z. wrote:

 1g e-gold = 1g pecunix = 1g e-bullion = 1g goldmoney

 No it is untrue on two counts:
 (1) 1g e-gold = (1g sth else - minus exchange fees)
Untrue... 1g e-gold has ALWAYS been = to 1g Pecunix...
Try it for yourself http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c
Likewise for all the others...

 Either way, I think the main concerns are not two words I used and 
 their dictionary meanings, but the fact that for 1g comgold to be
 redeemable for gold, you need to look at it as 100/100g comgold

I think you have misunderstood Viking completely...

 Hence there has to be actual proof of the gold holdings
 for each currency,
That is what Viking proposed.

The simple proposal was that there would always be a 1:1 ratio of 
gold to comgold, but a user would need to take pot luck when redeeming...

In other words, if you wish to redeem 40g of comgold, and there is 
say 30g of e-gold in the system, and 20g of Pecunix and 10g of 
e-bullion etc, you are out of luck if you want it all in e-gold, you 
would need to take the 30g in e-gold and the balance in one of the 
others...

There is no fractional system...

Regards,

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[e-gold-list] Another reason to use Mozilla

2003-11-28 Thread Michael Moore


From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today's my birthday, but I don't want anything for Jim Ray, except:

http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/donate.html

please give e-metal to Mozilla if you like their browser, snip
JMR

Account Name: 
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You Paid: Mozilla, Account# 1022293
USD 5.00' worth of Gold (0.012553 oz or 0.390453 grams)
Memo: Donation to Mozilla project

We use only Mozilla.  It rocks!

Happy Bday JMR.  30 again huh!


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