Re: REML for Dummies?

2002-03-01 Thread Anon.

Dr Jonathan Newman wrote:
 
 I'm trying to find a good introduction to REML (restricted maximum
 likelihood).  I'm a biologist rather than a statistician.  If you have any
 suggestions I'd great appreciate hearing them.  Thanks.

Lynch  Walsh (1998)?  (Genetic Analysis of Quantitative Traits, Chapter
27).  I'm not sure how useful it is - I came via a different route. 
Alternatively, you could try the Genstat manuals.

Bob

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help on factor analysis/non-normality

2002-03-01 Thread Mobile Survey

What do i do if I need to run a factor analysis and have non-normal
distribution for some of the items (indicators)? Does Principal
component analysis require the normality assumption Can I use GLS to
extract the factors and get over the problem of non-normality Please
do give references if you are replying
Thanks


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AIC

2002-03-01 Thread SR Millis

What is the correct pronunciation for Akaike as in AIC?

Thanks,
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Re: REML for Dummies?

2002-03-01 Thread kjetil halvorsen

A good book is 
Pinheiro, J.C. and Bates., D.M.  mixed models with S and S-Plus, 
Springer.

Kjetil Halvorsen

Dr Jonathan Newman wrote:
 
 I'm trying to find a good introduction to REML (restricted maximum
 likelihood).  I'm a biologist rather than a statistician.  If you have any
 suggestions I'd great appreciate hearing them.  Thanks.
 --
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 St. Peter's College, New Inn Hall Street, Oxford  OX1 2DL  Tel. 01865
 271278891  Fax. 01865 278855 or
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Re: detecting outliers in NON normal data ?

2002-03-01 Thread Erik-André Sauleau

But Mahalanobis distance is sensible to swamping and masking so is it really
a good measure for outliers?

DELOMBA a écrit dans le message ...
What about Hat Matrix ? Mahalanobis distance ?

Yves


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 Hi,

 I would like to know if methods for detecting outliers
 using interquartil ranges are indicated for data with
 NON normal distribution.






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Re: Applied analysis question

2002-03-01 Thread Eric Bohlman

Rolf Dalin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brad Anderson wrote:

 I have a continuous response variable that ranges from 0 to 750.  I only
 have 90 observations and 26 are at the lower limit of 0, 

 What if you treated the information collected by that variable as really
 two variables, one categorical variable indicating zero or non-zero value.
 Then the remaining numerical variable could only be analyzed conditionally
 on the category was non-zero.

 In many cases when you collect data on consumers consumption of 
 some commodity, you would end up in a big number of them not 
 using the product at all, while those who used the product would 
 consume different amounts.

IIRC, your example is exactly the sort of situation for which Tobit 
modelling was invented.



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Re: REML for Dummies?

2002-03-01 Thread John Uebersax

The Enclyclopedia of Biostatistics (Armitage P, Colton T; Wiley,
1999?) has an article on REML.

I have not seen the article, but usually their articles well explain
statistical concepts to non-statisticians.

The Encyclopedia is a resource you might find helpful in general.  For
more info, see:

http://www.wiley.co.uk/wileychi/eob/


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Re: Applied analysis question

2002-03-01 Thread Brad Anderson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Bohlman) wrote in message 
news:a5o5b1$fi0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Rolf Dalin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 IIRC, your example is exactly the sort of situation for which Tobit 
 modelling was invented.

Considered that (actually estimated a couple of Tobit models and if I
use a log transformed or box-cox transformed response the results are
consistent with the ordinal logit I originally described) but Tobt
assumes a normally distributed censored response -- the observed
distribution for the non-zero responses is not approximately normal
(even with transformations) and I don't think it's reasonable to
assume the errors are generated by an underlying gaussian process.  My
understanding of the Tobit model is that it's not especially robust to
violations of the this assumption.


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Re: help on factor analysis/non-normality

2002-03-01 Thread Rich Ulrich

On 1 Mar 2002 04:51:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mobile Survey)
wrote:

 What do i do if I need to run a factor analysis and have non-normal
 distribution for some of the items (indicators)? Does Principal
 component analysis require the normality assumption. 

There is no problem of non-normality, except that it *implies*
that decomposition  *might*  not give simple structures.
Complications are more likely when covariances are high.

What did you read, that you are trying to respond to?

  Can I use GLS to
 extract the factors and get over the problem of non-normality. Please
 do give references if you are replying.
 Thanks.

-- 
Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html


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Re: Robust regression

2002-03-01 Thread Rich Ulrich

On 1 Mar 2002 00:36:01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yu)
wrote:

 
 I know that robust regression can downweight outliers. Should someone
 apply robust regression when the data have skewed distributions but do not
 have outliers? Regression assumptions require normality of residuals, but
 not the normality of raw scores. So does it help at all to use robust
 regression in this situation. Any help will be appreciated. 

Go ahead and do it if you want.  

If someone asks (or even if they don't), you can tell 
them that robust regression gives exactly the same result.


-- 
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Re: Robust regression

2002-03-01 Thread Vadim and Oxana Marmer

If, for example, normality assumption holds then by doing robust
regression instead of OLS you lose efficiency. So, it's not the same
result after all. But you can do both, compare and decide. If robust
regression produces results which are not really different from the OLS
then stay with OLS.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Rich Ulrich wrote:

 On 1 Mar 2002 00:36:01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yu)
 wrote:

 
  I know that robust regression can downweight outliers. Should someone
  apply robust regression when the data have skewed distributions but do not
  have outliers? Regression assumptions require normality of residuals, but
  not the normality of raw scores. So does it help at all to use robust
  regression in this situation. Any help will be appreciated.

 Go ahead and do it if you want.

 If someone asks (or even if they don't), you can tell
 them that robust regression gives exactly the same result.


 --
 Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html




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Re: AIC

2002-03-01 Thread Alan Miller

SR Millis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
What is the correct pronunciation for Akaike as in AIC?

Thanks,
SR Millis (rhymes with bacillus)




In Japanese, all letters are pronounced.
Try: Aka-ee-ke
Now try pronouncing Toyota!  `y` is always a consonant in Japanese, so it
should be
something like: To-yow-ta where the first `o' is short.
instead of what we usually hear: Toy-ow-ta
--
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 Information Sciences)
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Re: help on factor analysis/non-normality

2002-03-01 Thread Robert Ehrlich

to amplifiy a bit, the interpretability of regression tends to go down as
the assumptions of normality and homogeneous variance are markedly
different from reality.  You can still go through the calcualtions but the
interpretation of results gets tricky.  Factor analysis is a sort of
regression analysis and so suffers in the same way from break downs of
assumptions.

Rich Ulrich wrote:

 On 1 Mar 2002 04:51:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mobile Survey)
 wrote:

  What do i do if I need to run a factor analysis and have non-normal
  distribution for some of the items (indicators)? Does Principal
  component analysis require the normality assumption.

 There is no problem of non-normality, except that it *implies*
 that decomposition  *might*  not give simple structures.
 Complications are more likely when covariances are high.

 What did you read, that you are trying to respond to?

   Can I use GLS to
  extract the factors and get over the problem of non-normality. Please
  do give references if you are replying.
  Thanks.

 --
 Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html



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2002-03-01 Thread semra

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