Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Call history

2008-03-29 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 29 mars 2008 à 10:53 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :

  5- the call duration is not accessible (it is not accessible with a
  cellphone either, but I think it is a needed feature)
  Indeed ; the question is : how to present it to the user.
  
  A additional column in the GtkTreeView ?
 
 Well, again : the book view only shows names, voip uris and a list of 
 phone numbers, of which only the first is really interesting for the user.
 
 The current contacts in svn have two interesting features for the user : 
 the name and the groups. Perhaps it would be good to add something more 
 (I don't know how to call it), so we can show more than the name in the 
 view.
 
 Either that, or write a more complete view specific for the history books?

Perhaps yes. The window is named Find contacts, it is supposed to find
contacts using various possible sources. It should not give many details
(even though it should be more complete than what it is currently).

I propose to implement a specific view more suited for a call history,
and placed in the main_notebook.

  6- when doing a refresh, the refresh never ends, you have to kill ekiga
  A refresh!? What are you talking about?
  
  The refresh button...
 
 Which refresh button? I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking 
 about : call history has no such thing.

I see a big Rechercher button, next to Search filter: in the view.

Do you want a screenshot or do you see what I mean ?
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Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Call history

2008-03-29 Thread Julien Puydt
Damien Sandras a écrit :
 Le samedi 29 mars 2008 à 10:53 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
 
 5- the call duration is not accessible (it is not accessible with a
 cellphone either, but I think it is a needed feature)
 Indeed ; the question is : how to present it to the user.
 A additional column in the GtkTreeView ?
 Well, again : the book view only shows names, voip uris and a list of 
 phone numbers, of which only the first is really interesting for the user.

 The current contacts in svn have two interesting features for the user : 
 the name and the groups. Perhaps it would be good to add something more 
 (I don't know how to call it), so we can show more than the name in the 
 view.

 Either that, or write a more complete view specific for the history books?
 
 Perhaps yes. The window is named Find contacts, it is supposed to find
 contacts using various possible sources. It should not give many details
 (even though it should be more complete than what it is currently).
 
 I propose to implement a specific view more suited for a call history,
 and placed in the main_notebook.

Fine for me!

 6- when doing a refresh, the refresh never ends, you have to kill ekiga
 A refresh!? What are you talking about?
 The refresh button...
 Which refresh button? I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking 
 about : call history has no such thing.
 
 I see a big Rechercher button, next to Search filter: in the view.
 
 Do you want a screenshot or do you see what I mean ?

Well, I guess sending me to find a search/rechercher button instead 
of refresh would have helped :-/

Looking at the code, I don't see why searching would do anything for the 
call history : the methods just have dummy implementations! :-(

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Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] SVN access for x264

2008-03-29 Thread sean darcy
Matthias Apitz wrote:
 $ svn co svn://svn.videolan.org/x264/trunk x264
 Authentication realm: svn://svn.videolan.org:3690 
 df754926-b1dd-0310-bc7b-ec298dee348c
 Password for 'guru': 
 Authentication realm: svn://svn.videolan.org:3690 
 df754926-b1dd-0310-bc7b-ec298dee348c
 Username: 
 Password for '': 
 Authentication realm: svn://svn.videolan.org:3690 
 df754926-b1dd-0310-bc7b-ec298dee348c
 Username:
 ^C
 svn: Caught signal
 
 Hello,
 How is the access to H.264 via SVN organized? The page
 http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Additional_Information#x264_.28SVN.29
 just speeks about the above 'svn co' command
 
 CU
 
   matthias

Just to keep everyone on their toes, x264 has closed the svn repo, and 
is using git.

Try:

git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264.git

and

git pull --rebase   = svn update

good luck.

sean

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100
  To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)
  
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...
   same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
   regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly 
   the 
   same hardware/software and internet connection.
  
  remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.
 
 Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through 
 a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are 
 insightful.
 
 Dee
 

Skype can at its own discretion decide to use your connection to route traffic 
of
somebody else.

Ekiga, I think, has adjustable jitter buffer, which sometimes really improves
quality at the expense of latency.

Skype uses pretty wide band codec; Ekiga gives you a choice, so bandwidth can
be better utilized.

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[Ekiga-list] eeepc

2008-03-29 Thread len
Hi, I'm a fan of the ekiga softphone using Ubuntu. Now I have an EEEPC (tiny 
laptop) using a Xandros o/s. I downloaded ekiga from the respository and 
installed ok. However, the audio reception is very choppy and makes the 
programme unusable. In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried 
different codex's but no change. I closed all other progs.

Does anyone have a workaround for this?

Skype works fine. 

Using ekiga the transmission was ok and not choppy, just the reception

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-29 Thread D Webb

  Hello,
I follow the discussion with great interst. I use Skype and VoIPBuster a lot, 
because the children and family of my wife live in the States, Australia and 
China. However, until now I am not able to get Ekiga working. The webcam is not 
working, and I found out that I have to pay for the calls using Ekiga. (home 
phoners/fixed).

Question: I am a real newbee, any reamrks concerning the items I wrote above. 
Please comment.

HAns Minekus
-

There are a lot of VoIP programs out there these days. I decided to follow 
Ekiga 
because I support the open software concept. Ekiga has thus far been offered 
to the world as a very generous gift. Of the programs I have tested, Ekiga is 
proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are having problems 
getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 that comes with 
recent 
distro of Gnome under Linux Slackware 12.0 and kernel 2.6.21. I have not yet 
complete success yet with this OS or FreeBSD 7.0. I also failed to get it to 
work 
under Windows, but this might only be because of some mis-understandings. I 
think you need to install GTK+ to get it to work in Windows, but following the 
chage-logs, I got idea Ekiga should not depend on GTK because there were 
some comments about removing the error message about requiring GTK. What 
OS are you using?

Others,

There is no error, I actually have gotten very good sound quality with a 56K 
modem. Ekiga is crashing for now and I am trying to solve this. However, 
I can say with great certainty the sound quality has been very good when Ekiga 
does not crash. Interesting point that Skype was originally described as 
working 
well with no more than a modem connection. I have never once experienced 
that. It seems Ekiga has some efficiency that ends up benefiting the end user 
in terms of efficiency and sound quality, which is why I want to see this go.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] eeepc

2008-03-29 Thread Julien Puydt
len a écrit :
  In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried different 
codex's but no change.

If the sound is already bad in test mode, I would say it's the audio 
driver which has a problem... Try to launch ekiga from a terminal to see 
if it prints warnings.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] eeepc

2008-03-29 Thread Damien Sandras
Le samedi 29 mars 2008 à 16:50 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
 len a écrit :
   In the config mode the audio is choppy. I have tried different 
 codex's but no change.
 
 If the sound is already bad in test mode, I would say it's the audio 
 driver which has a problem... Try to launch ekiga from a terminal to see 
 if it prints warnings.
 

Also try changing the audio device :
- Default for input and output
- Direct sound card access for input and output
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-29 Thread D Webb

  proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are
  having problems 
  getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11
  that 
 
 We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has
 always had a good reputation of stability and reliability.
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I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to other 
software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty much 
standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a 
conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga won't 
work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet 
to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) 
or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under Windows. 
I know of one report of someone getting Ekiga to work under Ubuntu, 
and I am thinking to give that a try, although I do not yet understand why 
the distribution would make a difference, assuming they are all using 
ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and failed, 
so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for specifics 
from others. I already reported the alsa-lib problem. I certainly do not want 
to detract in any way from your hard work. Ekiga looks like great 
software.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-29 Thread Edward Dunagin
Hello D,

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are
   having problems
   getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11
   that
 
  We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has
  always had a good reputation of stability and reliability.
  --
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 I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to other
 software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty much
 standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a
 conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga won't
 work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet
 to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome)
 or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under Windows.
 I know of one report of someone getting Ekiga to work under Ubuntu,
 and I am thinking to give that a try, although I do not yet understand why
 the distribution would make a difference, assuming they are all using
 ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and failed,
 so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for specifics
 from others. I already reported the alsa-lib problem. I certainly do not
 want
 to detract in any way from your hard work. Ekiga looks like great
 software.

I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11.
 I have a little trouble with the audio at times but usually can work
it out to the point of carrying on a conversation. Video has worked
fine on my system as well. Many time I suspect the mic on both ends.
Mine has been stepped on but I intend to invest in a good one that I
can snap to my collar.

I an running a P4 with 1GB of ram and 122GB H.D.

Lets see if we can't get together on Ekiga and work out your problems.
I am in Montana USA with Mounton time.

Peaceed



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[Ekiga-list] core dump

2008-03-29 Thread Edward Dunagin
The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst.

Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params:
Assertion `err = 0' failed.

[1]+  Aborted (core dumped) ekiga

Any ideas?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] core dump

2008-03-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- Edward Dunagin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The min I offer to help someone, my Ekiga goes pffst.
 
 Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params:
 Assertion `err = 0' failed.
 
 [1]+  Aborted (core dumped) ekiga
 
 Any ideas?
 
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I rarely use Ekiga, and it sometimes crashes on my SUSE 10.2 box.

Since I use it very rarely, I do not bother to send a report.

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