Re: [Elecraft] Spam bounce?

2005-04-09 Thread Martin Kratoska
It seems that the general settings of spam filtering is the culprit. 
Some ISP blocking mass freemail providers (yahoo.com, aol.com etc.). An 
email address change is the solution.


73 Martin OK1RR


F5UL napsal(a):

May be out of order on this reflector, but yesterday I had a mssage to post
concerning a big trouble with my K2 SN 4498 and the following was all what I
got in return...!!! So what can I do to post an e-mail from
Europe?
Thank you very much for the pass band ! F5UL

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Hello the list,
Up to this morning, this K2 was a nice and good worker, with during the last
six month about a thousand QSO under his belt ! But this morning turning it
on, I just got a vigorous howl ( very low freq nois !). I turn it off, and
on after a few second. The Rx start normaly and the noise start again after
a few second. Re-turn off and tunr on and no howl and Rx is working
correctly! The set was in CW mode so I turn down power (to abt 2/3 watts)
and close the key... The result is correct on 1.8, 3.5, 7.0 but nil on the
rest of the bands. Closing the key a little longer  on 7.0 the rig goes to
curent overange in abt 10/12 second and power fall down to zero.
So power off, open the rig, remove the bottom cover and before removing the
heat sink just check the resistance of driver and PAOn Q6 (driver) E to Gnd
1.3 ohm, B to Gnd 76/80 ohms, and C to Gnd  500 ohms. On Pa C to Gnd  600
ohms, B to Gnd 120/130 ohm E to Gnd 0 (it's normal!)They seems to be normals
but any time I close the key I get High Cur and power out ZERO !!
I do n,ot know what to do so I will wait till tomorow and hope to get some
indications from the list !
Thanks in advance guy, BCNU
72 Bob/F5UL




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Re: [Elecraft] Spam bounce?

2005-04-09 Thread G3VVT
 
In a message dated 09/04/05 09:10:45 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

But this  morning turning it
 on, I just got a vigorous howl ( very low freq nois  !). I turn it off, and
 on after a few second. The Rx start normaly and  the noise start again after
 a few second. Re-turn off and tunr on and  no howl and Rx is working
 correctly!


-
 
With the RX problem a good point to start with would be to check the PSU as  
the symptoms can sometimes be caused by a very low supply voltage. A common  
problem with battery powered equipment is to have LF instability when the  
batteries were dying. The same can apply with a defective PSU.
 
To Martin, OK1RR, I can assure you that AOL are not a freemail  provider, far 
from it as they charge more than many others for the  service.
 
Bob, G3VVT
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Re: [Elecraft] Spam bounce?

2005-04-09 Thread Mike W
AFIK, and certainly in UK, the Wanadoo ISP is far from Freemail. I'm 
on Freeserve which is the UK Name for Wanadoo and I have never 
experienced a bounce because of my ISP's policies.
I can't offer any good reasons why they are bouncing though sO I 
suppose I had better stop using bandwidth.
73 Mike G8NXD
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On 9 Apr 2005 at 10:09, Martin Kratoska wrote:

 It seems that the general settings of spam filtering is the culprit.
 Some ISP blocking mass freemail providers (yahoo.com, aol.com etc.).
 An email address change is the solution.
 
 73 Martin OK1RR
 
 
 F5UL napsal(a):
  May be out of order on this reflector, but yesterday I had a mssage
  to post concerning a big trouble with my K2 SN 4498 and the
  following was all what I got in return...!!! So what can I do to
  post an e-mail from Europe? Thank you very much for the
  pass band ! F5UL
  
   --
  
  Reporting-MTA: dns; wanadoo.fr
  X-SMTP-Server-Queue-ID: 8B4D31C00152
  X-SMTP-Server-Sender: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Arrival-Date: Fri,  8 Apr 2005 22:47:17 +0200 (CEST)
  
  Final-Recipient: rfc822; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Action: failed
  Status: 5.0.0
  Diagnostic-Code: X-SMTP-Server; host
  
  
   - Hello the
  list, Up to this morning, this K2 was a nice and good worker, with
  during the last six month about a thousand QSO under his belt ! But
  this morning turning it on, I just got a vigorous howl ( very low
  freq nois !). I turn it off, and on after a few second. The Rx start
  normaly and the noise start again after a few second. Re-turn off
  and tunr on and no howl and Rx is working correctly! The set was in
  CW mode so I turn down power (to abt 2/3 watts) and close the key...
  The result is correct on 1.8, 3.5, 7.0 but nil on the rest of the
  bands. Closing the key a little longer  on 7.0 the rig goes to
  curent overange in abt 10/12 second and power fall down to zero. So
  power off, open the rig, remove the bottom cover and before removing
  the heat sink just check the resistance of driver and PAOn Q6
  (driver) E to Gnd 1.3 ohm, B to Gnd 76/80 ohms, and C to Gnd  500
  ohms. On Pa C to Gnd  600 ohms, B to Gnd 120/130 ohm E to Gnd 0
  (it's normal!)They seems to be normals but any time I close the key
  I get High Cur and power out ZERO !! I do n,ot know what to do so I
  will wait till tomorow and hope to get some indications from the
  list ! Thanks in advance guy, BCNU 72 Bob/F5UL
  
  
  
  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 and XV50 - TX Noise and birdie

2005-04-09 Thread Ken G3WCS

Hello all,

A few months back I put together the XV144 and XV50 transverters. Both
work fine but following some comments from very local stations I decided
to make one or two checks.

I am comparing these tranverters with my own original 144Mhz transverter
which I built about 15 years ago.

With no input to either transverter but with the input terminated at 50
ohm and with a resonant antenna connected, listening on another receiver
with an antenna connected reveals quite a high hiss or mixing noise when
the PTT line is operated. This happens on both the 50 and 144 Mhz
transverters. If I operate the PTT line of my old home brew transverter
there is no such noise or if any it is very much reduced. I am sure the
hiss (phase/mixer noise) is many db down on the normal output level but 
it is nevertheless much greater than my original home made unit.


Secondly, and somewhat more worrying is a drifting birdie that both the
XV50 and the XV144 produce. Once again I know these are many db down on
the normal output but the 144 Mhz birdie is of sufficient strength that
a station 15 miles away heard it whilst trying to work an EME QSO. It
drifted across the frequency he was using. On my particular transverters
these birdies occur at about 50.130 Mhz on the XV50 and about 144.140
Mhz. They seem to drift LF during TX and at a rate of about 10 Khz in 5
minutes.

I wonder if anyone else has made any observations and come up with a
cure. I all other aspects the transverters are excellent and totally
stable. Indeed, the 144 Mhz version is fitted with a crystal oven.

I know there was a thread on here a month or two back regarding phase
noise being heard by stations within a 20 Km radius during high levels
of 144 Mhz activity.

Has anyone else got any more comments or observations to make. I know
that my observations are not exactly 'scientific' but there are made by
comparison with a different transverter which does not exhibit these
problems. During all these tests the transverters have had their inputs
and outputs correctly terminated with no 28 Mhz drive source connected.

Sorry for the long waffle. Any comments most welcome.


Best 73,


Ken G3WCS.
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[Elecraft] AGC Alignment

2005-04-09 Thread Evert Bakker

Hi all,

I'm assembling the K2 here (SN 4836) and came to the first 
check/alignment.  No smoke here so far, but when adjusting the setting 
for the AGC as described on page 47 I became suspicious about the 
alignment procedure. Adjust R1 for 3.80 V on the DMM. I turned R1 and 
reached the end and got stuck on 3.78V. The absolute value of 3.78 
doesn't worry me but that I ended up at the limit of the R1. I thought I 
should check all variables like DC voltage which should be 8V (was 7.98V 
so OK). Checked the resistors (mainly RP6 / 5.1K) and, RF gain 
potentiometer 5K and the R1 (50K). All looked fine. So what's wrong?


I started making calculation on the resistor dividing network and came 
to the conclusion that the maximum voltage (theoretically) could be 
close to 3.82V when the RF-gain is fully CW  (0 Ohm) and  the R1 is set 
fully CCW (50K).


I wonder if something is wrong here and if not, why was the alignement 
procerdure setup like this (it could heve been something like: Set 
RF-Gain full CW, R1 full CCW and check the voltage at pin 5 of U2 to be 
close to3.80V)? Or did I miss some errata info?


Please help.

Thanks in advance

Evert, PA2KW
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Re: [Elecraft] AGC Alignment

2005-04-09 Thread vze3v8dt
When recently building mine I had a similar problem.  I moved my ground 
connection to one of the small loops on the board and that was enough to 
give me a higher reading and tweak R1 into range.  Seems that the 
Ground that I had picked wasn't as good of a ground as I thought! 

There certainly may be another reason for your problem as well, but just 
thought I would offer my experience.  Hope it helps!


Mark, NK8Q
K2 #4786

Evert Bakker wrote:


Hi all,

I'm assembling the K2 here (SN 4836) and came to the first 
check/alignment.  No smoke here so far, but when adjusting the setting 
for the AGC as described on page 47 I became suspicious about the 
alignment procedure. Adjust R1 for 3.80 V on the DMM. I turned R1 and 
reached the end and got stuck on 3.78V. The absolute value of 3.78 
doesn't worry me but that I ended up at the limit of the R1. I thought 
I should check all variables like DC voltage which should be 8V (was 
7.98V so OK). Checked the resistors (mainly RP6 / 5.1K) and, RF gain 
potentiometer 5K and the R1 (50K). All looked fine. So what's wrong?




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RE: [Elecraft] AGC Alignment

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Evert,

If RP6 is on the high side of its tolerance and/or R1 is on the low side
combined with a low 8R voltage, you may not be able to achive the 3.80 volt
level.  3.75 to 3.78 volts is probably OK for your initial adjustment.  I
fine-tune my setting later so there is no AGC action with internal receiver
noise and usually end up with a setting somewhere between 3.7 and 3.75
volts, although some particularly hot receivers must be set as low as 3.6
volts.

To assure no AGC action on internal noise, remove the antenna, seto the RF
gain fully CW and AF Gain up until noise can be heard - then toggle the AGC
off/on by pressing AGC and PRE/ATT buttons together.  Adjust the AGC
Threshold just below the point where no change in noise is observed.  Be
certain the set CAL S Lo and CAL S Hi after changing the AGC Threshold
setting.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I'm assembling the K2 here (SN 4836) and came to the first
 check/alignment.  No smoke here so far, but when adjusting the setting
 for the AGC as described on page 47 I became suspicious about the
 alignment procedure. Adjust R1 for 3.80 V on the DMM. I turned R1 and
 reached the end and got stuck on 3.78V. The absolute value of 3.78
 doesn't worry me but that I ended up at the limit of the R1. I thought I
 should check all variables like DC voltage which should be 8V (was 7.98V
 so OK). Checked the resistors (mainly RP6 / 5.1K) and, RF gain
 potentiometer 5K and the R1 (50K). All looked fine. So what's wrong?




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[Elecraft] S-meter alignment

2005-04-09 Thread Evert Bakker

Hi all,

May be I'm to critical but lets try once more. After finishing the AGC 
Threshold setting, the next alignment is the S-meter. When completing 
the last CAL-S-HI step, and setting the RF Gain potentiometer back to 
full CCW, only led nr. 9 lits and not nr 10. Trying to correct this I 
pressed the menu button and immediately led nr 9 goes off and led nr. 8 
lits (Huh??). Rotating the VFO knob to search for the CAL mode, led nr 8 
switched off and led nr 10 comes on again.




To be short, I tried many times to get the required result but there 
seems to be an instability somewhere in the circuit. I checked the 
supply voltage (13.8V) and the two regulators on the Control Board to 
see if they were producing accesive noise at the outputs, but they 
looked ok (less than 2 mV noise and limited by the scoop, Tek 2465B).


Has anybody out there a slightest idea what I'm doing wrong (or even worse)?

Evert, PA2KW

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RE: [Elecraft] S-meter alignment

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Evert,

I don't think you are doing anything wrong - but the input circuit that
drive the AGC mixer is not yet constructed, and the open signal line may
just be picking up local noise.

The best advice I can give on the S-meter alignment is - Just set it
approximately now, then re-do it after completing the receiver (next
assembly process).  I too have observed that it seems a bit unstable at the
point of construction where you are insructed to set it.  While this place
in the manual is the best place to become familiar with the menu items, I do
not believe it is the best place for 'final' adjustments - better to wait
until you have the K2 completed and then repeat the settings for AGC
Threshold, CAL S Lo and CAL S Hi.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 May be I'm to critical but lets try once more. After finishing the AGC
 Threshold setting, the next alignment is the S-meter. When completing
 the last CAL-S-HI step, and setting the RF Gain potentiometer back to
 full CCW, only led nr. 9 lits and not nr 10. Trying to correct this I
 pressed the menu button and immediately led nr 9 goes off and led nr. 8
 lits (Huh??). Rotating the VFO knob to search for the CAL mode, led nr 8
 switched off and led nr 10 comes on again.



 To be short, I tried many times to get the required result but there
 seems to be an instability somewhere in the circuit. I checked the
 supply voltage (13.8V) and the two regulators on the Control Board to
 see if they were producing accesive noise at the outputs, but they
 looked ok (less than 2 mV noise and limited by the scoop, Tek 2465B).

 Has anybody out there a slightest idea what I'm doing wrong (or
 even worse)?

 Evert, PA2KW




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Re: [Elecraft] DEpedition Band Schedule

2005-04-09 Thread Tom McCulloch
Just worked Mike on 40 at 5 Watts !! Thanks Mike I needed DE for my 2xqrp 
WAS.


 Just proves that their is life in Delaware (even if it had to be imported)

He's at 7.040 calling CQ

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103

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Subject: [Elecraft] DEpedition Band Schedule


Here's a repost of my planned operating schedule from DE this weekend.  I 
will adhere to this as long as conditions (propogation and activity) 
allow.


Callsign is NJ2OM/3.

GMT Band  *** Will check 10m at the top of each hr ***

SAT
12:00 40
13:00 
14:00 
15:00 
16:00 20 / 15
17:00 
18:00 
19:00 OFF
20:00 OFF
21:00 15 / 20
22:00 
23:00 40

SUN
0:00 
1:00 
2:00 80
3:00 
4:00 OFF will check 160m @ 04Z before going to bed
5:00 OFF
6:00 OFF
7:00 OFF
8:00 OFF
9:00 OFF
10:00 OFF
11:00 OFF
12:00 80 / 40
23:00 40
14:00 
15:00 
16:00 20
17:00 OFF
18:00 OFF
19:00 15 / 20
20:00 
21:00 
22:00 
23:00 



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[Elecraft] Fun

2005-04-09 Thread Randy Johnson
I've heard it said that building a K2 is more fun that operating. Building mine 
was a genuine HOOT and I'm going to get more accessories to build, but I beg to 
differ about the operating. In the past couple of days I've made about 25 
QSO's, mostly DX, and am having GREAT FUN operating QRP - well, 15 watts. I've 
worked 90% of the stations I've called and am getting nice reports. With 10 
different entities worked so far, DXCC is now in the sights!   Worked all the 
JA's I could hear on 40 m in the contest this morning.  

One problem is that when I hit PRE/ATT button, audio is attenuated even more on 
PRE than on ATT, certainly not louder. 



Randy W6SJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Spam bounce?

2005-04-09 Thread g4ilo
You cannot be serious. To suggest someone changes his email address and ISP 
to solve the problem with the spam filtering of this reflector is a severe 
case of the tail wagging the dog, in my opinion.

Julian, G4ILO

Martin Kratoska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It seems that the general settings of spam filtering is the culprit. Some 
ISP blocking mass freemail providers (yahoo.com, aol.com etc.). An email 
address change is the solution.

73 Martin OK1RR


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[Elecraft] k2 off frequency

2005-04-09 Thread George Cortez

Hi all
4801 was getting a upgrade (ssb adapter)
when I noticed that listening on my other rig (Icom 746 pro.)
the k2 was off freq by 1kc high on 40 lsb this is on tx and rx.
It is 600hz off high on cw.
any ideas?

George NE2I

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 off frequency

2005-04-09 Thread Mike W


On 9 Apr 2005 at 13:58, George Cortez wrote:

 Hi all
 4801 was getting a upgrade (ssb adapter)
 when I noticed that listening on my other rig (Icom 746 pro.)
 the k2 was off freq by 1kc high on 40 lsb this is on tx and rx.
 It is 600hz off high on cw.
 any ideas?

How about flipping the coin ?
Noticing that the Icom is off frequency compared to the K2 eh?
Why do people always assume that commercial gear is the 'standard' 
against which other equipment should be measured/compared ?

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 feedline question

2005-04-09 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Hi Tom
Yes, that is excellent feedline for multiband antennas.
Here I have a 60 ft centerfed flattop with 450 ohm window line
for feeder.  I can load this antenna on 160, 80, 40, 30, 20, 17, 15, 12 and
10m.
The feedpoint Z at the shack end changes from band to band, so I either use
a 1:1 balun or a 4:1 balun, whichever gives me the best match on a given
band.  I put one balun on ANT1 port of the ATU, and the other balun on the
ANT2
port.  With banana plugs and jacks, it only takes a moment to switch from
one
port to the other.  The ATU remembers the settings and ANT selection as you
jump from band to band.
Go for it!
73, Bob N6WG

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Subject: [Elecraft] K2 feedline question


Hi all,

  Well spring is in the air and old man's fancy turns to antennas.

  I have a K2 (s/n 1103) without the 100 watt amp and with the internal low
power ATU. Unless procrastination gets the best of me again, I'd like to
string up a new wire antenna this spring.

  I have a chunk of 400 ohm ladder line, which I'd like to use as the
feedline and would like to know how and if I can use this with the K2/ATU.

  Thanks

Tom WB2QDG
k2 1103
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RE: [Elecraft] k2 off frequency

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
George,

Before drawing any conclusions based on another piece of amateur gear, zero
beat WWV at 10 MHz (for a rough approximation, tune until the announcment
voice is correct) and see just how far off you are.

The procedure (along with a lot of related information including how to
'zero-beat' WWFV very closely) to properly set the K2 dial calibration is on
my website www.qsl.net/w3fpr.  600 Hz is WAY off - 20 0r 30 Hz might be
expected after doing the calibration.

A note on observations in CW mode - be certain of how the receiver used to
observe the K2 transmitted frequency handles the CW offset.  If it shows the
actual carrier frequency while listening to a particular pitch, you must be
certain the audio note is the same as that pitch (just like on the K2).

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-
 Hi all
 4801 was getting a upgrade (ssb adapter)
 when I noticed that listening on my other rig (Icom 746 pro.)
 the k2 was off freq by 1kc high on 40 lsb this is on tx and rx.
 It is 600hz off high on cw.
 any ideas?

 George NE2I




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 and XV50 - TX Noise and birdie

2005-04-09 Thread S55M
Hello!

I have made some measurments, but not with XV series transverters but with
Javornik 144/14MHz IF.
 I compared Ft1KMP and K2 driving the same transverter and observed the
noise (not birdies) 20KHz away from the carier.
The K2+TRV increased noise some 7 to 10dB more than FT1KMP+TRV at same power
output (+43dBm).But K2 has less splatters as Ft1KMP.
And about birdies (the milion of tiny ones)...most of them are generated
on KSB2 SSB board interacting between PIC clock signal and SSB audio
path,mostly in Q1.
I have made some shielding and bring them down for some 10dB but this is not
most brilliant solution.
http://www.s55m.com/teh/images/ksb2.jpg
I have tried to moove Q1 on the bottom side of PCB but no improovment.
I also noticed the drifting condor but i have no idea where it comes from
:(   .
You are lucky to use 28MHz IF ,so You are free of 14.361MHz beacon.
For the general phase noise of K2 on TX i still wait for some solution
either from designers or maybe from good friend of mine
Robi-S53WW.

73's

S55M-Adi

P.S.
Here are my measurment of K2 RX compared to FT1KMP and TS930S
http://www.s55m.com/teh/K2930MP.jpg
and
http://www.s55m.com/teh/RXPN.gif




- Original Message - 
From: Ken G3WCS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 and XV50 - TX Noise and birdie


 Hello all,

 A few months back I put together the XV144 and XV50 transverters. Both
 work fine but following some comments from very local stations I decided
 to make one or two checks.

 I am comparing these tranverters with my own original 144Mhz transverter
 which I built about 15 years ago.

 With no input to either transverter but with the input terminated at 50
 ohm and with a resonant antenna connected, listening on another receiver
 with an antenna connected reveals quite a high hiss or mixing noise when
 the PTT line is operated. This happens on both the 50 and 144 Mhz
 transverters. If I operate the PTT line of my old home brew transverter
 there is no such noise or if any it is very much reduced. I am sure the
 hiss (phase/mixer noise) is many db down on the normal output level but
 it is nevertheless much greater than my original home made unit.

 Secondly, and somewhat more worrying is a drifting birdie that both the
 XV50 and the XV144 produce. Once again I know these are many db down on
 the normal output but the 144 Mhz birdie is of sufficient strength that
 a station 15 miles away heard it whilst trying to work an EME QSO. It
 drifted across the frequency he was using. On my particular transverters
 these birdies occur at about 50.130 Mhz on the XV50 and about 144.140
 Mhz. They seem to drift LF during TX and at a rate of about 10 Khz in 5
 minutes.

 I wonder if anyone else has made any observations and come up with a
 cure. I all other aspects the transverters are excellent and totally
 stable. Indeed, the 144 Mhz version is fitted with a crystal oven.

 I know there was a thread on here a month or two back regarding phase
 noise being heard by stations within a 20 Km radius during high levels
 of 144 Mhz activity.

 Has anyone else got any more comments or observations to make. I know
 that my observations are not exactly 'scientific' but there are made by
 comparison with a different transverter which does not exhibit these
 problems. During all these tests the transverters have had their inputs
 and outputs correctly terminated with no 28 Mhz drive source connected.

 Sorry for the long waffle. Any comments most welcome.


 Best 73,


 Ken G3WCS.
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[Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Richard Thorne
I'm slowly but surely gathering the tools and such so I'll have every 
thing necessary to build a K2.


I remember in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from 
RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave 
you the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.


I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone 
call I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?



Rich Thorne
ARS: N5ZC
AMA: N5ZC
Amarillo, TX

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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Rich:

Here's a handy link:

http://www.electronics123.com/amazon/tools/resistor/calculator.htm

73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


At 06:03 PM 4/9/2005 -0500, you wrote:
I'm slowly but surely gathering the tools and such so I'll have every 
thing necessary to build a K2.


I remember in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from 
RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave you 
the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.


I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone call 
I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?



Rich Thorne
ARS: N5ZC
AMA: N5ZC
Amarillo, TX

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Re: [Elecraft] AGC Alignment

2005-04-09 Thread Paul Bruneau
At least a few of us saw exactly the same thing in the last few weeks. 
We never heard anyone giving grave warnings that we were in 
trouble...so I don't know what to tell you, except that I'm in exactly 
the same boat.


I planned on measuring it again when I get to the next alignment/test 
where that board is powered up. For now I'm still winding toroids.


-Paul KB8NMZ
K2 #4818

On Apr 9, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Evert Bakker wrote:


Hi all,

I'm assembling the K2 here (SN 4836) and came to the first 
check/alignment.  No smoke here so far, but when adjusting the setting 
for the AGC as described on page 47 I became suspicious about the 
alignment procedure. Adjust R1 for 3.80 V on the DMM. I turned R1 and 
reached the end and got stuck on 3.78V. The absolute value of 3.78 
doesn't worry me but that I ended up at the limit of the R1. I thought 
I should check all variables like DC voltage which should be 8V (was 
7.98V so OK). Checked the resistors (mainly RP6 / 5.1K) and, RF gain 
potentiometer 5K and the R1 (50K). All looked fine. So what's wrong?


I started making calculation on the resistor dividing network and came 
to the conclusion that the maximum voltage (theoretically) could be 
close to 3.82V when the RF-gain is fully CW  (0 Ohm) and  the R1 is 
set fully CCW (50K).


I wonder if something is wrong here and if not, why was the alignement 
procerdure setup like this (it could heve been something like: Set 
RF-Gain full CW, R1 full CCW and check the voltage at pin 5 of U2 to 
be close to3.80V)? Or did I miss some errata info?


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Re: [Elecraft] AGC Alignment

2005-04-09 Thread Larry Makoski

Evert,

Same thing happened here last summer as I was building K2 #4090.  I just 
let it go; I figured 3.78V was close enough.  My K2's been on the air 
for 9 months now with no problems.  I would't worry about it.


73 de Larry W2LJ
K2 #4090  K1 #1647

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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2005-04-09 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

Trevor and myself will hike up to Pulpit Rock here in PA on the
Appalachian Trail on Sunday.
look for me on 40m and 20m cw.  I will be trying out my Palm 105 for
logging so be nice - hi!
I hope to work a few from the rock here in PA.

72,
Ed, WA3WSJ


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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2005-04-09 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

I bought a Palm 105 off Ebay and installed some nice loggers on it. One
logger called K2 Logger even can control my K2!
I didn't want to, but I did go and buy a K2I/O off Elecraft. I plan to
take my K2 portable and leave my computer at home. The Palm should work
out just fine with it in the field.

72,
Ed, WA3WSJ



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RE: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Rich,

My 8 year old grandson grasped the resistor/capacitor color code in about 15
minutes of sorting resistors.  Buy one of those resistor 'grab-bags' and
sort them - when you are finished, you should have a good recall of the
color code.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I'm slowly but surely gathering the tools and such so I'll have every
 thing necessary to build a K2.

 I remember in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from
 RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave
 you the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.

 I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone
 call I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?




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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Sandy
Color code is easy!  Remember the rhyme we learned in radio school:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly!
Gold is more valuable than Silver!

First letters in each word gives clue to color.

Do they still talk about ELI the ICE man?  (To find about when voltage leads 
current
and vice-versa.)

73,
Sandy W5TVW
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen W. Kercel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide


| Rich:
|
| Here's a handy link:
|
| http://www.electronics123.com/amazon/tools/resistor/calculator.htm
|
| 73,
|
| Steve Kercel
| AA4AK
|
|
| At 06:03 PM 4/9/2005 -0500, you wrote:
| I'm slowly but surely gathering the tools and such so I'll have every
| thing necessary to build a K2.
| 
| I remember in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from
| RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave you
| the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.
| 
| I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone call
| I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?
| 
| 
| Rich Thorne
| ARS: N5ZC
| AMA: N5ZC
| Amarillo, TX
| 
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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Thom R Lacosta

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Sandy wrote:


Color code is easy!  Remember the rhyme we learned in radio school:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly!


May not be Politically Correct!


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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Doug Forman

Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White

Better Be Right Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West

-de  N7BNT  Doug

Thom R Lacosta wrote:


On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Sandy wrote:


Color code is easy!  Remember the rhyme we learned in radio school:

Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly!



May not be Politically Correct! craft.com


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RE: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Rich, N5ZC wrote:

...in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from 
RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave 
you the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.

I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone 
call I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?



You'll find a complete color code chart and information for identifying
other part values such as chokes and caps used in your Elecraft kit in the
front part of your Elecraft manual, along with soldering tips and other
important build data. 

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Margaret Leber

Thom R Lacosta wrote:

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005, Sandy wrote:

Color code is easy!  Remember the rhyme we learned in radio school:
Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly! 

May not be Politically Correct!


Clearly not politically correct...but I still use it anyway :-)
But bless Elecraft for printing part codes in the manual.

 -Maggie-

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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/9/05 8:27:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone 
 call I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?
 

I made one, decades ago, from shirt cardboard. Used little brother's crayons. 
Still have it someplace. 



73 de Jim, N2EY
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RE: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread Robert McGwier

Not politically correct?  Only the most boorish idiot that ever lived
would even dream of sending it.  Pardon my lack of political
correctness.

Bob
N4HY



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thom R Lacosta
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:23 AM
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May not be Politically Correct!


73,Thom-k3hrn


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[Elecraft] Resistance Color Code

2005-04-09 Thread HoskinsBC

I too learned the color code but before radio school from my Uncle Vern 
(W9EPI).


Bright   BoysRave OverYoung Girls But Veto 
Getting Wed

Black  Brown  Red   Orange  Yellow  Green   Blue   Violet Gray   
White

   0  1   23   4  5 6 
7   8 9

First two bands are numbers, third is multiplier
fourth is the resistors tolerance  5% Gold  10% Silver and no 4th band is 20%

Floyd Hoskins N5FH





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[Elecraft] Resistance Color Code

2005-04-09 Thread Aaron Parker
 
Check out this web page and print off a copy of the chart.
I hope this helps! 

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/resistors/resistor.htm

73
Aaron KC7RSO

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RE: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread EricJ
 
Well, we went through ways the military taught code practice. Here's how the
military taught me to remember the color code including tolerance:

Bad   Boys  Rape OurYoung  Girls But  Violet Gives Willingly for Gold
Silver or Nothing

Black Brown Red  Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Gray  White  5%
10%   20%

I've remembered it for 43 years. And that's the clean one.

Eric
KE6US



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:11 PM
To: Richard Thorne; elecraft
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

Rich,

My 8 year old grandson grasped the resistor/capacitor color code in about 15
minutes of sorting resistors.  Buy one of those resistor 'grab-bags' and
sort them - when you are finished, you should have a good recall of the
color code.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I'm slowly but surely gathering the tools and such so I'll have every 
 thing necessary to build a K2.

 I remember in my earlier ham days that I had a little chart from 
 RadioShack.  You dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave 
 you the value of the resistor.  It may come in handy during the build.

 I don't think RadioShack carries these any longer, per a quick phone 
 call I just made.  Are there any other sources for something like this?




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Re: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread John D'Ausilio
On Apr 9, 2005 8:26 PM, Doug Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White
 
 Better Be Right Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
 

That's the one I learned, and I'm pretty sure I got it from the BSA
Electronics merit badge handbook.

de John/W1RT
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Fwd: [Elecraft] Resistor Color Code Guide

2005-04-09 Thread BPCI


Ci  Jones
WU7R 
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[Elecraft] Resistors

2005-04-09 Thread BPCI
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/05 01:27:34 GMT Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

You  dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave 
you the value of the  resistor.  It may come in handy during the  build.



I have always just used my DMM to check the value of each resister  before 
installing it. I am partially color blind (hence couldn't fly in the  Marine 
Corps), so I have to depend on an alternative that works really well so  far.
 

 
Ci  Jones
WU7R 
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[Elecraft] K2 Keyer Problem

2005-04-09 Thread Eberhart, Russell
I have K2 #4650, which has worked flawlessly for about three months.  I have 
had several hundred QSOs, mainly CW, and have used all bands.  I almost always 
run 5 watts.  Today, a weird phenomenon raised its head.  On 17M, I finished a 
QSO with an Italian station, and everything was working great.  I started to 
call another station, and the keyer started sending a pattern of 
dot-dash-dot-dash-dot-dash... when I held down the dash paddle.  The dot paddle 
works OK.  The phenomenon stops when I reduce power below 2 watts or so.  SWR 
is about 1.2 - 1.3.  I experimented for awhile, and found that I only had the 
problem on 17M, nothing on 80, 40, 20, 15, or 10.  Then I had a QSO with 
everything normal on 20M, then returned to exploring the problem.  I now find 
the dot-dash problem has creeped in on 15M.  Still no problem except on 17M and 
15M. I scrolled thru FAQs, but haven't found anything.  I strongly suspect a 
software problem, but am not sure how to proceed, and will appreciate the 
wisdom of the gurus on this reflector.
 
Thanks in advance,
Russ Eberhart, N9IV
K2 #4650  KX1 #742
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RE: [Elecraft] Resistors

2005-04-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Huh??? I didn't say that!

The assembly instructions will teach anyone who has built an Elecraft rig
the color code. The correct colors are in each step right after the value
for the resistor, e.g. 4.7k  (yel-vio-red). By the time you're done
building, you know the color code!

A DMM doesn't hurt. Sometimes the colored resistors are hard to read
correctly, and some of the bands are so tiny on the smaller units that the
color is simply hard to see! 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
In a message dated 4/10/05 01:27:34 GMT Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

You  dialed up the colors in the correct order and it gave 
you the value of the  resistor.  It may come in handy during the  build.

I have always just used my DMM to check the value of each resister  before 
installing it. I am partially color blind (hence couldn't fly in the  Marine

Corps), so I have to depend on an alternative that works really well so
far.
 

 
Ci  Jones
WU7R 


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2005-04-09 Thread Kevin Rock
The phone company finally fixed our telephone lines.  Sometime yesterday 
the power company blasted the power in the area snapping breakers in many 
houses.  Somehow or another they zapped the phone service to quite a large 
area too.  Thus we have been without phone, power, and Internet service 
for a day.  Amazing how the little things effect one.  Some technologies 
seem to work pretty well :)  The K2, battery, and candles.


If anyone still has a hankering to get on the air after all the contests 
this weekend you are welcome to call us.


Please join us :
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT)  7045 kHz

Visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for net details.

I have had one of the most exhausting, nerve wracking, and strenuous weeks 
of my life.  Hopefully next week will allow for some rest and stress 
relief.  Like digging in the garden!!

   Take care and see you tomorrow,
   Kevin.   KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 7th Class)


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Keyer Problem

2005-04-09 Thread John [K7SVV]
Russ,
 You might try replacing the antenna with a dummy load to
eliminate RF as the source.


John   K7VV


On Apr 9, 2005 7:10 PM, Eberhart, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have K2 #4650, which has worked flawlessly for about three months.  I have 
 had several hundred QSOs, mainly CW, and have used all bands.  I almost 
 always run 5 watts.  Today, a weird phenomenon raised its head.  On 17M, I 
 finished a QSO with an Italian station, and everything was working great.  I 
 started to call another station, and the keyer started sending a pattern of 
 dot-dash-dot-dash-dot-dash... when I held down the dash paddle.  The dot 
 paddle works OK.  The phenomenon stops when I reduce power below 2 watts or 
 so.  SWR is about 1.2 - 1.3.  I experimented for awhile, and found that I 
 only had the problem on 17M, nothing on 80, 40, 20, 15, or 10.  Then I had a 
 QSO with everything normal on 20M, then returned to exploring the problem.  I 
 now find the dot-dash problem has creeped in on 15M.  Still no problem except 
 on 17M and 15M. I scrolled thru FAQs, but haven't found anything.  I strongly 
 suspect a software problem, but am not sure how to proceed, and will 
 appreciate the wisdom of the gurus on this reflector.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Russ Eberhart, N9IV
 K2 #4650  KX1 #742
 
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RE: [Elecraft] help!

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Merlin,

Yes, I would suspect a faulty solder connection before anything else.  Since
it is confined to 40 meters and happens with a dummy load, I would look in
the 40 meter low pass filter area first - especially for poorly tinned
toroid leads.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 If it ain't one thing, it's another.  Having just fixed the AGC
 problem in
 my K2 (2631), enjoying the beautiful radio, weirdness has again  struck.

 I get high SWR on 40 meters after I cut the output down, to raise
 it again
 for full output.  When I back the power off to minimum, there's the high
 reflected power indication, about 9 to one.  When I run the power
 back up,  the SWR
 again behaves.  Souns like antenna glitches, no?

 The antenna is a big loop (240 feet) open at the top, fed with
 450 ohm open
 wire line.  I use an SGC 230, and the combination with my K2-100
 has been
 perfect.  When I back off the power, only on forty meters, the
 SWR goes  crazy.
 Only on forty.  All other bands tune thru the tuner just  fine.
 So, thinking
 still it must be the antenna, I ran the K2 into a dummy  load.
 Same Thing
 Happens !

 Is there a bad solder joint in the low pass filter on the K2?;
 that lets it
 operate at some power levels but shows high levels of spurious
 transmitted
 signal sometimes?

 I don't get it.  Any ideas?

 Merlin, W3ICT,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 LCD (Protective Film On Backside)

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Remove nothing until just before putting the front panel on the PC board -
then carefully remove the thin plastic film that protects the LCD.  Scrape
up a corner with a fingernail - or if you must use a sharp instrument, take
care not to damage the harder plastic (glasslike) surface under the thin
plastic film.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of randt
 Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:15 PM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 LCD (Protective Film On Backside)


 #4877 k2 in progress.
 My LCD has a light grey looking tape or film on the Back
 with no lines or yellowing.
 Page 27 in manual says(some LCDs (not all)may also have such
 film,with faintly visible yellow or gray
 diagonal lines.
 Do I leave this on or take it off?
 It is grey/white looking but no lines.
 Please help me in my wondering.
 Dont want to mess up now!
 Kinda believe this is part of LCD.
 kc4eyf
 Thanks



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RE: [Elecraft] help!

2005-04-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
OK, I will now take back the content of my last post.  Re-reading more
carefully, since an autotuner is involved, a certain minimum power is
reqired to begin tuning - and if the power is set too low, 'strange things
will happen'.
Set the power for 2 watts or greater - it should tune with no problem.
After tuning the antenna, you can drop the power back if you wish to run
QRPp.

OTOH, since you indicate that the same thing happens with a dummy load
(hopefully with no tuner involved), you should still look at the KPA100 low
pass filter - and possibly the LPF in the base K2.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-
 Yes help,

 If it ain't one thing, it's another.  Having just fixed the AGC
 problem in
 my K2 (2631), enjoying the beautiful radio, weirdness has again  struck.

 I get high SWR on 40 meters after I cut the output down, to raise
 it again
 for full output.  When I back the power off to minimum, there's the high
 reflected power indication, about 9 to one.  When I run the power
 back up,  the SWR
 again behaves.  Souns like antenna glitches, no?

 The antenna is a big loop (240 feet) open at the top, fed with
 450 ohm open
 wire line.  I use an SGC 230, and the combination with my K2-100
 has been
 perfect.  When I back off the power, only on forty meters, the
 SWR goes  crazy.
 Only on forty.  All other bands tune thru the tuner just  fine.
 So, thinking
 still it must be the antenna, I ran the K2 into a dummy  load.
 Same Thing
 Happens !

 Is there a bad solder joint in the low pass filter on the K2?;
 that lets it
 operate at some power levels but shows high levels of spurious
 transmitted
 signal sometimes?

 I don't get it.  Any ideas?



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