[Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Kevin Rock
I have had some fine responses to my request for a Field Day venue.  They 
ranged from operating locations across the United States to clues for how to 
start a club featuring my desires where no club existed before.  A friend and I 
have discussed starting this club before.  These responses only firm my desire 
to do so.  

How many folks would like to build their own radio and get on the air from a 
rural location?  Or even a city park?  I think we could feature the Elecraft 
rigs to folks who happen by and have some fun meeting one another; either on 
the air or face to face.  The rigs don't all have to be from Elecraft but it 
would be nice to have only home built gear.  Even that does not need to be 
fixed in stone.  Simply getting folks outside to meet and work a few contacts 
while bringing their families and some food would be nice.  

It seems to be rare these days where one can meet others of like mind and visit 
with them about our mutual interests.  Then we can even discuss our 
differences.  All we need is a single thread to start the activity and let it 
grow from there.  If you want to market your KX1, K1, K2, or soon your fancy K3 
bring it along and write a note to Lisa requesting some sales literature.  I've 
no problem with Elecraft zealots :)

We can have an Elecraft picnic and get to know one another better.  Life is too 
short to use bad rigs.  Build an Elecraft kit and step up to luxury.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS


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[Elecraft] The ultimate old-timer's CW and digital mode box

2007-06-13 Thread Brian Lloyd
I was searching for sources of reasonably-priced (meaning cheap but  
useful) straight keys and came up with this gem:


http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/13/steampunk-laptop-comes-complete- 
with-morse-key/


With this in your shack PSK31 won't really feel like cheating.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN
Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com


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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Clear book

2007-06-13 Thread Fred Jensen
Well, this has strayed way off the original post, and I do intend to 
find the book and read it, but ... speaking from a little battle experience:


Fred (FL) wrote:

In a battle war situation - the last thing a
operator military person needs to have to do,
is dial in an exact frequency. 


Tactical radios -- the ones that are in the heat of combat -- were 
crystal controlled even in WW2.  Other than those, in the US Vietnam 
Adventure, we had a lot of KWM-2A's for HF [big knob to change freq and 
our maint depot guys left the ham rocks in the bottom board and put our 
military crystals in the top board.  A lifesaver for me at HS1FJ], 
AN/GRC-27's for Air to Ground stuff, and AN/TRC-24's for multi-channel 
radio relay stuff, none rock-bound.  The 27's were channelized, but you 
could select the frequency for each channel [never really figured out 
how Art Collins and his guys did that, but it involved a lot of motors, 
gears, racks, and slugs :-) ], and everything else was selectable. 
Synthesized controls showed up in the AN/TRC-96, but rocks were still 
the staple for the AN/MRC-98 heavy mobile tropo.  Now, it's all 
satellite stuff.


Stability in WW2 was probably an issue, but passbands were wider then 
too, and voice was AM ... non-exact tuning was tolerable.  In the 60's 
voice was SSB, tuning mattered, but then Art and his guys took care of 
that for us.  For the record, I think I have destroyed 22 operational 
KWM2A's with thermite.  We had two on every mission, we burned them up 
at the end.  Tough job for a ham.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphone output levels on the K2?

2007-06-13 Thread David Woolley

Steve Kallal wrote:

I have a requirement that my rigs have relatively high audio output wo/
distortion from the headphone jack. I have a moderate hearing loss, about 45
db down especially in the speech region. The audiologists calls that


I've had that sort of loss in one ear since childhood and some in the 
other, and I did get prescribed an aid as a child, although I haven't 
been very good at using it.




I think the best thing about a kit like the K2 is that adding a small audio
stage internally before the headphone jack doesn't ruin the rig. But I would
hope that won't be necessary.


As others have said, you could also reduce the series resistors on the 
headphone output, although you might need to modify the shunt capacitors 
as well; I'm not sure of the function of these (could be audio low pass, 
or could be RF pickup blocking).


You won't get 45dB of gain without transformer coupling, as I don't 
think there is enough power supply voltage for that.


Also, noise cancelling headphones normally have an amplifier, so, in 
cancelling mode, increase the wanted as well as suppressing unwanted 
sound.  Mine are vulnerable to GSM mobile phone signals, so might have 
RF pickup problems.  (My interest in Elecraft is to try getting back 
into amateur radio, so I haven't used them near amateur transmissions, yet.)



Also I don't wear my hearing aids with headphones because of feeback. I went
with behind the ear hearing aids. Maybe a heaphones with larger deeper cups
would help.


Most hearing aids, including state supplied ones, in the UK, have a T 
setting, which uses an induction loop pickup, rather than a microphone. 
 You can use this with headphones with reasonable field leakage, or 
special, silent, ones.  I don't know how sensitive they are to RF pickup.


For some, you can get shoes that allow them to be connected to normal 
domestic audio equipment.  I'm not sure if these couple acoustically, or 
whether they match a connector on the aid.


Theoretically, you could also get headphones with hearing aid type ear 
moulds.  In the past, when hearing aids had output transducers that 
clipped directly onto the earmould, the clip was the same as used in 
professional head sets.  Nowadays, they couple acoustically, with a 
plastic tube, so there might not be direct compatibility.


I welcome comments from those who are familiar with the headphone output


Unfortunately, I've not built it far enough to hear more than sidetone yet.


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Re: [Elecraft] RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

2007-06-13 Thread Dan KB6NU
Just keep beating on them. That's what I do here. Eventually, you'll  
find some that want to be real ham operators. :)


73, Dan KB6NU


On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:

You would not believe how they scatter when I pull a circuit board  
transceiver out of my pack :)

   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS



-Original Message-

From: Dan KB6NU [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 12, 2007 10:46 PM
To: Elecraft Mailing List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in  
Northwest Oregon


They obviously feel threatened by a ham with superior skills. :)

The animosity exhibited even by some old-timers when the topic of CW
comes up is amazing to me, especially in the context of  contest.
Don't they realize that, in most contests, you get more points for CW
contacts than for phone contacts?

73!

Dan KB6NU
--
CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator
Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com
LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO!



On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:

I am trying to find a group where CW is not shunned.  The two
nearby groups treat me like I am a leper when I mention the mode.
Often it is the end of any conversation.

I am not sure where the myth of CW operators are always welcome
got started because it is not true here.

I will contact the people in Eugene but it is about three hours
away from me due to rivers and mountains.
   Kevin.  KD5ONS


-Original Message-

From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 12, 2007 9:51 PM
To: 'Kevin Rock' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

I'm not sure where you mean by N.W. Oregon but the Valley Radio
Club of Eugene will have an operation.
If you're interested just ask on the 146.72 (W7PXL) repeater.

Whenever I've been on the road over field day, I've just asked
around on the local repeaters and always found a FD group to
operate with. (CW operators are always welcome)

Steve .. AI7W


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Rock
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 19:32 UTC
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon


Are there any groups in Northwest Oregon who would like a CW
operator to join them for Field Day?
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Clear book

2007-06-13 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 6/12/07 11:47:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Can you believe, Andy Rooney of CBS 60 minutes was a reporter for Stars 
 and Stripes newspaper in WW2?
 

Not hard to believe at all:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney.asp 

Be sure to read the whole article.

73 de Jim, N2EY




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[Elecraft] ESD and XV144

2007-06-13 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
While building an XV144, I assume it is wise to take ESD precautions?
I have everything I need except the wrist strap, which seems to have gone
missing over the last 10 years or so.
Can anyone in the UK recommend a supplier? Looking at RS they are rather
expensive.
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game, the stakes, and the quitting time. -Chinese Proverb


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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Clear book

2007-06-13 Thread Fred (FL)
In the early 90's, while employed as an engineer
for Uncle Sam, we had a contract with NA Rockwell,
in Newport Beach, Calif. - for computer chips.
Next door on their grounds, was an old Collins
Radio facility.  And they still left the old
Collins tower and beam, outside on the Rockwell
plant's front lawn.  I wonder what they built
there?  Maybe the Rockwell ham radio club still
used the tower?

de Fred N3CSY


   

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[Elecraft] FS Clifton Z91 Panadapter

2007-06-13 Thread Mike Keller
For Sale: Clifton Labs Z91 Spectrascreen Panadapter

Assembled, tested and operated using my K2 with optional Clifton K1-U
buffer amplifier interface

Z91 (only) $390

Mike Keller
W1BNC

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[Elecraft] Re: ESD and XV144

2007-06-13 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Thanks to all who replied - I guess I should have searched more :-)


On 13/6/07 11:21, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 While building an XV144, I assume it is wise to take ESD precautions?
 I have everything I need except the wrist strap, which seems to have gone
 missing over the last 10 years or so.
 Can anyone in the UK recommend a supplier? Looking at RS they are rather
 expensive.

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[Elecraft] CQWW DX Teams

2007-06-13 Thread J F
Would anyone be interested in forming 5 person teams
for the CQWWDX events this Fall?

As I recall, the 2006 rules allow you to form teams
consisting of folks from anywhere (ARRL has geographic
restrictions). Your score still counts towards your
contest club's total, if you belong to one.

It might be fun to have a little friendly competition
between Elecrafters... Actually, there is a bit of
that already.

73,
Julius
n2wn
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Re: [Elecraft] CQWW DX Teams

2007-06-13 Thread Jeff Kinzli N6GQ

Sounds fun, I might be in for that.

If my K3 is delivered in time, I'll be taking it with me to KH6 for WW
CW and possibly SSB too. Otherwise, I'll take my K2 and we're going to
try it (with DSP) for the 160M station. I'll be at a station on the
big island.

Jeff N6GQ

On 6/13/07, J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Would anyone be interested in forming 5 person teams
for the CQWWDX events this Fall?

As I recall, the 2006 rules allow you to form teams
consisting of folks from anywhere (ARRL has geographic
restrictions). Your score still counts towards your
contest club's total, if you belong to one.

It might be fun to have a little friendly competition
between Elecrafters... Actually, there is a bit of
that already.

73,
Julius
n2wn
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[Elecraft] Walter Winchell

2007-06-13 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
Back in the days of BW TV Winchell had a 15 minute gossip gig...(or was it 1/2 
hour?...I don't remember anymore)...At the beginning of the show he was shown 
sitting at a table sending his CW message using a bug...

Jerry, wa2dkg
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Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

2007-06-13 Thread f9oj.7
Hello everyone
Nobody mentionned the importance of the antenna when operating QRP.  Which
is the best : 10 watts on a three element beam or 100 watts on a dipole ?
I am not a DX champion or an avid contester but I reached te 100 countries
without particularly hunting for any of these, and in about a year's time.
Using a 6 el. log yagi on ten, an HB9CV on 15 and another one on 20.
No complex for QRP on SSB, please, but adjust carefully   your antennas !
73 to all
Jacques
- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP


Well, there's the huge difference between us Mike. I call W3XYX W3XYZ W3XYZ
DE AC7AC AC7AC AC7AC/QRP ;-)

Same for CQ. My thinking is that if hearing the /QRP is going to confuse
anyone, I want them to get the call right first.

As for a QRP signal being 'tiny', it all depends upon conditions. Digging
out weak signals can be fun. I do it out of habit. I find I'm digging in
the mud for a 100 watt or greater signal at least as often as a QRP signal.


I've given and received lots of 579 to 599 reports and enjoyed long, long
rag chews when we're both running 5 watts or less to suggest that QRP is not
a all a tiny signal when conditions are right.

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

Ron  all,

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 ...I hope the intrepid operators who love to promote their operating
 interests will never stop signing /QRP...

I share some of the feelings of both camps regarding signing or not signing
using /QRP.  As a result, I use a combination.  I generally call by txing:

cq cq cq de ab3ap/qrp ab3ap ab3ap

I put the /QRP in early so the responding op doesn't feel obligated to
resend it back to me, send it only once because it takes time, but send it
more than not at all so listeners know what that tiny signal is.

For what it's worth,
Mike  ab3ap
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Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

2007-06-13 Thread W2AGN
Well, I must have missed the memo. I thought this was the Elecraft list. But
for the past couple weeks, it appears to be a general discussion list. I though
the various and sundry QRP-L lists were more for that. Of course, I note a lot
of cross-posting, so I guess folks like to see their words of wisdom on
several lists.

I wonder where one finds information about the K3 and K2, etc? Maybe on the
Bird-watchers list?


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Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Clear book

2007-06-13 Thread Sandy
Walter Winchell was famous for the code spurts during the radio brodcast, 
I remember them well.  Couldn't copy code then, so I was fooled.  Trivia 
experts say the radio and Telegraph CW was FAKE.  Just Winchell 
working the key, not really sending anything.  That and his authoritative 
or official sounding voice garnered many listeners before the days of 
television.


73,
Sandy W5TVW
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Clear book



Stuart Rohre wrote:

Hi Fred,
Yes, I remember Gabriel Heater news; but the all the ships at sea was 
the tag line of gossip commentator Walter Winchell.  Remember him?  He 
also had the snappy code burst at the start of his broadcasts.


Can you believe, Andy Rooney of CBS 60 minutes was a reporter for 
Stars and Stripes newspaper in WW2?


Andy Rooney reported in the SS during our Vietnam adventure too.  I 
remember his sort of opening line, Ever thought about ...  When I'm in a 
CW contest, or we're in my truck and the repeater IDs, my wife will often 
say, and all the ships at sea.  She was born in 1945, and likely never 
heard Walter and I'm sure not Gabriel.  Some things do stick around 
however, I'm told it's our culture.  Often wondered what Walter sent, I do 
remember hearing it, didn't know the code then.


Really cool Eric/Wayne K3 show last night at the NCCC meeting in San 
Carlos CA.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Jason Milldrum

Kevin,

I'm in Aloha, so you can sign me up when you get your group together. I 
have been thinking about what it would take to get a homebrewer group 
together in the Portland area, but I haven't run into any other builders 
from the area. It would be nice to have a place out in the woods to 
string up some wire. I live in a home where I can't put up an outside 
antenna, and I've been too chicken to try to deploy one in a local park yet.


As for the local groups, I can completely relate. I'm a newcomer to 
Washington County, but I didn't have very good luck in Salem. When I 
went to the local club's FD event a few years ago, the club was not very 
inviting. Nothing like wandering around like a lost puppy dog, looking 
for someone to acknowledge you! What's irritating is that they advertise 
that the event is open to all, but don't really follow up with trying to 
make visitors welcome.


Jason Milldrum, NT7S
=
Amateur Station NT7S - http://www.nt7s.com
QRPedia - http://www.qrpedia.com

Kevin Rock wrote:
I have had some fine responses to my request for a Field Day venue.  They ranged from operating locations across the United States to clues for how to start a club featuring my desires where no club existed before.  A friend and I have discussed starting this club before.  These responses only firm my desire to do so.  

How many folks would like to build their own radio and get on the air from a rural location?  Or even a city park?  I think we could feature the Elecraft rigs to folks who happen by and have some fun meeting one another; either on the air or face to face.  The rigs don't all have to be from Elecraft but it would be nice to have only home built gear.  Even that does not need to be fixed in stone.  Simply getting folks outside to meet and work a few contacts while bringing their families and some food would be nice.  


It seems to be rare these days where one can meet others of like mind and visit 
with them about our mutual interests.  Then we can even discuss our 
differences.  All we need is a single thread to start the activity and let it 
grow from there.  If you want to market your KX1, K1, K2, or soon your fancy K3 
bring it along and write a note to Lisa requesting some sales literature.  I've 
no problem with Elecraft zealots :)

We can have an Elecraft picnic and get to know one another better.  Life is too 
short to use bad rigs.  Build an Elecraft kit and step up to luxury.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

2007-06-13 Thread Steve
I am trying to find a group where CW is not shunned.  
The two nearby groups treat me like I am a leper when 
I mention the mode.  Often it is the end of any conversation.  

am not sure where the myth of CW operators are always 
welcome got started because it is not true here.

I admit it’s been a few years since I’ve been away from home on a FD weekend so 
maybe things have changed. Has the “no-code” hysteria carried past the 
elimination of code as a licensing requirement and created a world where CW is 
no longer ‘politically correct’? I certainly hope not.

I checked the rules and FD scoring hasn’t changed, CW contacts are still worth 
2 points while phone contacts are only worth 1. It seems to me that any serious 
FD group would encourage CW. I have to assume that the two groups you contacted 
are not serious about FD and you’d probably be happier finding a more committed 
FD operation

Steve .. AI7W

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Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

2007-06-13 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
 Yes.  And, this is the FISTS 10th anniversary this year.  To celebrate 
 FISTS is offering the 20/20 award.

Too bad there don't seem to be many (active) FISTS west of the Rockies.
In these times of poor condx, I feel lucky to have finally amassed
100 points while running QRP (all I've got)... the 20/20 award
appears out of reach.

Oh well, I'm still having fun!

73 de chris K6DBG
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[Elecraft] OT: According to the paper Don Herbert passed away

2007-06-13 Thread crmabbott
Hopefully you all remember Mr. Wizard
still remember how much I enjoyed his 
show!  He passed away today at 89

73  

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Mankind has a perfect record in aviation, 
we never left one up there! 
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

2007-06-13 Thread Stephen Brandt
CW contacts are often easier to make.  Especially at lower power levels.

Steve Brandt N7VS Portland, Oregon


 They obviously feel threatened by a ham with superior skills. :)
 
 The animosity exhibited even by some old-timers when the topic of CW  
 comes up is amazing to me, especially in the context of  contest.  
 Don't they realize that, in most contests, you get more points for CW  
 contacts than for phone contacts?
 
 73!
 
 Dan KB6NU
 --
 CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator
 Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com
 LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO!
 
 
 
 On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:
  I am trying to find a group where CW is not shunned.  The two  
  nearby groups treat me like I am a leper when I mention the mode.   
  Often it is the end of any conversation.
 
  I am not sure where the myth of CW operators are always welcome  
  got started because it is not true here.
 
  I will contact the people in Eugene but it is about three hours  
  away from me due to rivers and mountains.
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Jun 12, 2007 9:51 PM
  To: 'Kevin Rock' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon
 
  I'm not sure where you mean by N.W. Oregon but the Valley Radio  
  Club of Eugene will have an operation.
  If you're interested just ask on the 146.72 (W7PXL) repeater.
 
  Whenever I've been on the road over field day, I've just asked  
  around on the local repeaters and always found a FD group to  
  operate with. (CW operators are always welcome)
 
  Steve .. AI7W
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Rock
  Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 19:32 UTC
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon
 
 
  Are there any groups in Northwest Oregon who would like a CW  
  operator to join them for Field Day?
Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who ...could teach Morse code to a dog....?

2007-06-13 Thread Stan Rife
Was that Phil Silver  Not sure if he was 40's era or not, but I used to 
watch him back in the 50's on TV when I was a kid.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
   
  

wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I heard this very funny piece on NPR a couple of years ago about a 
40's-era comedian who did skits about military life. In one skit he 
played a radio-class instructor disgusted with a new class of 
underachieving recruits who were there to learn the code. He chastised 
them for not studying while bragging that he could teach anyone the 
code, even a dog, which cracked up the studio audience (or, I'm not 
sure which, prompted the laugh-track operator to open it up all the 
way).

Being not quite 50, I wasn't there. I bet a few of you were :) I 
couldn't find his name with a web search. Anyone have a clue?

tnx
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who ...could teach Morse code to a dog....?

2007-06-13 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski
I believe the character he played was Sergeant Bilko, if memory serves 
me -- with big dark rimmed glasses and a balding head.


Jozef WB2MIC

Stan Rife wrote:

Was that Phil Silver  Not sure if he was 40's era or not, but I used to 
watch him back in the 50's on TV when I was a kid.
   
  Stan Rife

  W5EWA
   
  


wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I heard this very funny piece on NPR a couple of years ago about a 
40's-era comedian who did skits about military life. In one skit he 
played a radio-class instructor disgusted with a new class of 
underachieving recruits who were there to learn the code. He chastised 
them for not studying while bragging that he could teach anyone the 
code, even a dog, which cracked up the studio audience (or, I'm not 
sure which, prompted the laugh-track operator to open it up all the 
way).


Being not quite 50, I wasn't there. I bet a few of you were :) I 
couldn't find his name with a web search. Anyone have a clue?


tnx
Wayne
N6KR


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RE: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who ...couldteach Morse code to a dog....?

2007-06-13 Thread Gregg W6IZT
I am just a couple of years past 50, and it sounds like something the Phil
Silver would do

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:50 AM
To: wayne burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who
...couldteach Morse code to a dog?

Was that Phil Silver  Not sure if he was 40's era or not, but I used to
watch him back in the 50's on TV when I was a kid.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
   
  

wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I heard this very funny piece on NPR a couple of years ago about a 
40's-era comedian who did skits about military life. In one skit he 
played a radio-class instructor disgusted with a new class of 
underachieving recruits who were there to learn the code. He chastised 
them for not studying while bragging that he could teach anyone the 
code, even a dog, which cracked up the studio audience (or, I'm not 
sure which, prompted the laugh-track operator to open it up all the 
way).

Being not quite 50, I wasn't there. I bet a few of you were :) I 
couldn't find his name with a web search. Anyone have a clue?

tnx
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who ...could teachMorse code to a dog....?

2007-06-13 Thread Don Ehrlich

Wayne,

I haven't seen any responses to your question so I guess you have us all 
stumped.  I'm guessing that it was not a 40's era comedian but, more likely, 
a 50's era comedian when (as I recall) that kind of schtik started with Bob 
Newhart.  I remember listening to an LP at a friends house in the mid 50's 
that featured Bob Newhart.  It did not have a radio instructor on it but 
otherwise was very similar.


Don K7FJ

I heard this very funny piece on NPR a couple of years ago about a 40's-era 
comedian who did skits about military life. In one skit he played a 
radio-class instructor disgusted with a new class of underachieving 
recruits who were there to learn the code. He chastised them for not 
studying while bragging that he could teach anyone the code, even a dog, 
which cracked up the studio audience (or, I'm not sure which, prompted the 
laugh-track operator to open it up all the way).


Being not quite 50, I wasn't there. I bet a few of you were  :)  I 
couldn't find his name with a web search. Anyone have a clue?


tnx
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Jason, et al:

For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all concerned, 
Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new operator (to the 
area) to go to a radio club function and expect to be warmly received...


During FD, everyone is running around, trying to ensure that 
everything is installed (properly) and running so things can start on 
time... additionally, there's a lot (usually) of activity during the 
entire activity and well-intentioned welcomes often go out the door 
with trying to keep track of who's operating what and where, and how 
the rigs are working.


If you want to visit a club, do it at a regular meeting and then 
you'll have a lot better chance of being warmly received. And, if 
you're NOT... find another club.  But please don't let the welcome 
you hoped for and didn't receive during Field Day cause you to decide 
that this club (whomever they happen to be) is unfriendly or closed 
to newcomers.


No matter how hard we might try to be hospitable during FD, it's a 
chore, and we often fail.


BTW - The MMARC (Jefferson City MO) tries(!) to welcome all visitors, 
and we WELCOME CW operators... of course, we welcome all other ops as 
well. In fact, we have a LOT more CW ops than SSB ops... go figger. 
But come visit us at a Club meeting... we'll be even more friendly then.


73,

Tom Hammond   N0SS



At 09:57 06/13/2007, Jason Milldrum wrote:

Kevin,

I'm in Aloha, so you can sign me up when you get your group 
together. I have been thinking about what it would take to get a 
homebrewer group together in the Portland area, but I haven't run 
into any other builders from the area. It would be nice to have a 
place out in the woods to string up some wire. I live in a home 
where I can't put up an outside antenna, and I've been too chicken 
to try to deploy one in a local park yet.


As for the local groups, I can completely relate. I'm a newcomer to 
Washington County, but I didn't have very good luck in Salem. When I 
went to the local club's FD event a few years ago, the club was not 
very inviting. Nothing like wandering around like a lost puppy dog, 
looking for someone to acknowledge you! What's irritating is that 
they advertise that the event is open to all, but don't really 
follow up with trying to make visitors welcome.


Jason Milldrum, NT7S


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[Elecraft] OT Walter Winchell and BIG radios (WAS: Crystal Clear book)

2007-06-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
You can hear recordings of Walter on line at:

http://www.archive.org/details/WWII_News_19450225_Walter_Winchell

Or 

http://tinyurl.com/22kf83

There are Gabriel Heatter recording around but I don't know of any available
for listening on-line. 

On another list I came across the answer to those of us who constantly
mutter about the tiny radios on the market today. How about the 'colossus of
radio'  shown here? 

http://radiomagonline.com/features/radio_colossus_radio/

Or

http://tinyurl.com/25frzf

Yes, it's for real, in spite of the date shown on the article. And it's just
a receiver!  One was recently auctioned off as shown here:

http://www.estesauctions.com/April282007page1.html

Ya see, you can cut out one of these pictures and  paste it on the wall,
then ask your spouse whether they'd appreciate one of these in the house or
perhaps a (relatively) tiny K3...

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:29:50 -0700 (PDT), Fred (FL) wrote:

Does anyone remember Gabriel Heater?  When I
was a kid, out at my grandparents cottage south
of Buffalo - everyone used to sit around the
Philco radio - and listen to Gabriel Heater's
news program, at that time about WWII.
. and all the ship's at sea.

  That was Walter Windshield (Winchell...g) :

 Good evening Mister and Missus North and South America and
 all the ships at sea, let's go to press...

  Gabriel Heatters's trademark was Ah yes, there's good news
  tonight...

  Or so I remember.
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   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] CQWW DX Teams

2007-06-13 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

On 6/13/07, J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It might be fun to have a little friendly competition
between Elecrafters... Actually, there is a bit of
that already.


--

Great idea!

Geoff
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[Elecraft] Who IS Number 1?

2007-06-13 Thread w6jd
With apologies to Patrick McGoohan:

John is #6
 Who is #1?
 I am #2, you are #6.
 I am NOT a number!

Doug
W6JD

BTW, who IS #1?
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Re: [Elecraft] flagrantly OT: name of WWII comedian who ...couldteach Morse code to a dog....?

2007-06-13 Thread n2ey

-Original Message-
From: Gregg W6IZT [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I am just a couple of years past 50, and it sounds like something the 

Phil

Silver would do


You mean Phil Silvers, aka Sgt. Bilko. And yes, it would be 
something he would do.


--

You know that Somebody has a cosmic sense of humor when you notice that 
Phil Silvers and the Dalai Lama are from such different cultures, 
philosophies and parts of the world, yet look so much alike.


73 de Jim, N2EY

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Re: [Elecraft] Offensive

2007-06-13 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski

Didn't offend me.  I have a delete button that is easy enough to use.

Jozef

W2AGN wrote:
Well, I apparently have offended one of the folks on the list, who 
advises me I am a sarcastic malcontent, due to my earlier post in 
reference to the rather odd topics that seem to have taken over the 
Elecraft List, such as:


1. English (idioms and vernacular)
2. The Best handi-talky
3. RST S meter readings
4. The Woodpecker
and of course the classic Signing /QRP

So sorry if my ignorance has caused me to fail to recognize the 
relationship of the above to Elecraft products. It was pointed out to 
that 'Signing /QRP is on topic since Elecraft makes QRP radios, and 
the Subject is /QRP? therefore it is relevant. Therefore since many of 
us speak English into our Elecraft microphones, #1 above is also on 
topic. Handi talkies are usually QRP, so there';s #2. Of course the K2 
and K3 have S-meters, so that takes care of #3. #4 is a bit more 
difficult, but I am sure it is obvious to my critic.


So sorry, carry on, as they say. As you were.

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RE: [Elecraft] Offensive

2007-06-13 Thread Darwin, Keith
How are these wildly OT posts relevant?  Why they're relevant because
they're of interest to Elecraft customers.  Any relationship to Elecraft
gear is somewhat beside the point.

OT posts occur on every list I've ever been on.  They only become a
problem when they take over a list.  Trying to keep discussions
constrained to things that are purely on-topic makes a list rather dry 
legalistic.  Dry in that there is less variety, and dry in that the
number of posts, and therefore the level of activity and sense of
excitement, drops.

And actually, this reply, and maybe even the message to which I'm
replying are both OT, right?

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -


-Original Message-
... rather odd topics that seem to have taken over the Elecraft List,
such as:

1. English (idioms and vernacular)
2. The Best handi-talky
3. RST S meter readings
4. The Woodpecker
and of course the classic Signing /QRP

So sorry if my ignorance has caused me to fail to recognize the
relationship of the above to Elecraft products.

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RE: [Elecraft] K2: Size of RFC15 - No different from green ones

2007-06-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I suspect the small tan RFC15 has been dropped from the kit, David, so you
have all the same-size RFC15 inductors now. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Woolley
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:05 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K2: Size of RFC15 - No different from green ones


The manual says that RFC15, as well as being tan coloured, should be 
much smaller than the other 100 microHenry chokes, but it appears to be 
the same size as the four green ones, namely about 6.3 mm long by 2.1 mm 
diameter.  The obvious reason for this was that it was being used to 
patch between pads that are only about 3 mm apart.

Is there now no real difference except colour?

-- 
David Woolley
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RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that
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Re: [Elecraft] Offensive [END of this Thread + Guidelines reminder

2007-06-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Guys - Let's end this thread before it takes off.

1. In general we welcome most topics on the Elecraft list. Please do not 
strongly criticize other's postings, OT or not, or posters.  We want 
this to be a friendly, cordial list.


2. Please try to be as terse as possible (and delete most copied reply 
text) when posting and please try to avoid 'me too' and 'I 
agree/disagree' posts. Doing this greatly reduces the list noise level 
and email volume.


2. As moderator I'll step in when I feel a thread is getting too OT or 
is taking up too much space. I try to moderate with a light hand, and 
when I'm away a thread may take on a life of its own. I'll always jump 
back in though when I do see it getting out of control.


3. Feel free to complain to the moderator. :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Who IS Number 1?

2007-06-13 Thread Kevin Rock
If I remember correctly that would be Eric's rig.  I saw it at SeaPac a few 
weeks ago.  I was told Wayne's rig does not have a number.  How exclusive can 
one get?
   Kevin.  KD5ONS  -- I am not a number either :)

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With apologies to Patrick McGoohan:

John is #6
 Who is #1?
 I am #2, you are #6.
 I am NOT a number!

Doug
W6JD

BTW, who IS #1?
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: According to the paper Don Herbert passed away

2007-06-13 Thread Sandy
I remember watching him on the only TV station in New Orleans as a kid.  He 
was always interesting!  Kids today missed him!  He was very educational, 
even if you knew what he was going to do!


73,

Sandy W5TVW
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Hopefully you all remember Mr. Wizard
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Re: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

2007-06-13 Thread Jessie Oberreuter


 Team Ki7el is planning on being out in the woods of Western 
Washington for FD.  CW operators are definately not shunned, and neither 
are builders or QRP ops.  Indeed, we'll be running a mix of QRP cw, ssb, 
and digital this year on mostly hand-made rigs.  We'll be leaving from 
Woodland, WA Saturday morning.  There are normally just three of us, but 
there's always room for more!  Drop me a note if you're interested!


BTW, I'll be driving down from Seattle either Friday night or Saturday 
morning, so the invitation is extended north as well :).




On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Kevin Rock wrote:


Are there any groups in Northwest Oregon who would like a CW operator to join 
them for Field Day?
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

2007-06-13 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Kevin and all:

Not that its much help to you on the west coast, but we really like 
CW operators at FD operations here in Maine. If you hear KS1R or 
N1TRC (our GOTA call) give us a shout.


73,

Steve
AA4AK



At 10:50 PM 6/12/2007, Kevin Rock wrote:
This is another fantasy of mine.  Form a club of CW operators who 
like to operate in the boonies and actually build their own 
rigs.  Glory be I think that may draw a few fine souls.  Maybe even 
a glowbug or two :)

   Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Field Day operations in Northwest Oregon

In a message dated 6/12/07 3:41:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Are there any groups in Northwest Oregon who would like a CW operator to
 join them for Field Day?


If there aren't, why not start your own? That's what I did many years ago,
when I got fed up with the local clubs' approach to FD.

Doesn't have to be a formal club, just a Field Day group.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Grand Poobah, Jug Southgate's Bunch


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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Tom:

That depends on the club. Just last week I sent out letters to every 
newly (since Jan 07) licensed/upgraded ham within an hour's drive of 
Topsham ME inviting them to take part in the KS1R/N1TRC operation on Field Day.


Given that many FD operations have GOTA operations, I expect that we 
are not the only ones welcoming beginners.


73,

Steve



At 12:33 PM 6/13/2007, Tom Hammond wrote:

Hi Jason, et al:

For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all concerned, 
Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new operator (to the 
area) to go to a radio club function and expect to be warmly received...



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Re: [Elecraft] Offensive

2007-06-13 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
I agree with you, the whole topic of QRP operating procedures is of 
interest to many Elecraft users.


73,

Steve
AA4AK



At 01:16 PM 6/13/2007, W2AGN wrote:
Well, I apparently have offended one of the folks on the list, who 
advises me I am a sarcastic malcontent, due to my earlier post in 
reference to the rather odd topics that seem to have taken over the 
Elecraft List, such as:


1. English (idioms and vernacular)
2. The Best handi-talky
3. RST S meter readings
4. The Woodpecker
and of course the classic Signing /QRP

So sorry if my ignorance has caused me to fail to recognize the 
relationship of the above to Elecraft products. It was pointed out 
to that 'Signing /QRP is on topic since Elecraft makes QRP radios, 
and the Subject is /QRP? therefore it is relevant. Therefore since 
many of us speak English into our Elecraft microphones, #1 above is 
also on topic. Handi talkies are usually QRP, so there';s #2. Of 
course the K2 and K3 have S-meters, so that takes care of #3. #4 is 
a bit more difficult, but I am sure it is obvious to my critic.


So sorry, carry on, as they say. As you were.
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RE: [Elecraft] Who IS Number 1?

2007-06-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
If you're talking about K3's, we had number 1 at Sea Pac. When pushing the
CW memory button it pounded out CQ DE N6KR.

Ron AC7AC



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With apologies to Patrick McGoohan:

John is #6
 Who is #1?
 I am #2, you are #6.
 I am NOT a number!

Doug
W6JD

BTW, who IS #1?
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Size of RFC15 - No different from green ones

2007-06-13 Thread David Woolley

David Woolley wrote:
The manual 
says that RFC15, as well as being tan coloured, should be much smaller 
than the other 100 microHenry chokes, but it appears to be the same size 


An off list reply pointed out that there is a recent constructor 
bulletin on this point, although it doesn't quite say that they are now 
the same size.


The bulletin is at 
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Builder%20Alert%20Installing%20Small%20Chokes%20Rev%20B.pdf.


Thanks.

as the four green ones, namely about 6.3 mm long by 2.1 mm diameter.  
The obvious reason for this was that it was being used to patch between 
pads that are only about 3 mm apart.


Is there now no real difference except colour?




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Re: [Elecraft] Offensive

2007-06-13 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:16:33 -0400, W2AGN wrote:

. #4  [The Soviet Woodpecker]
is a bit more difficult, but I am sure it is obvious to my critic.

  When the above operated in the ham bands, it was easily
  receivable with Elecraft equipment.

  Case Closed ?  g

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Re: RE: [Elecraft] Getting ready to order K2

2007-06-13 Thread David Woolley

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

cable, I agree they are probably being cautious. After all, I understand the
ARRL has launched their own program of technical courses to help Hams become
more technically competent. 


The current UK licensing regime requires that a project be built before
one can get from the 10 watt limited Foundation Licence to the 50 watt
limited Intermediate Licence.  It can't be a transmitter though, as one
cannot use kit built equipment until you have gained the intermediate
licence (it looks like Intermediate Licensee transmitter kits must meet
some type approval rules, whereas full licence ones look like they are
exempt).  Assuming that there is some flexibility in what is built, I
would presume that there would be some market for a K2 with build
instructions modified to complete all the receiver bands before starting
on the transmitter, for when the licensee upgraded; it might need
appropriate type approval, though, for that market.  It would far exceed
the construction experience required for the licence!


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RE: RE: [Elecraft] Getting ready to order K2

2007-06-13 Thread Dan Barker
Leaving out the finals might do the trick!

The upgrade to full transceiver would be about pretty cheap (two
transistors, some hardware and those pesky thermal pads).

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

snip
I would presume that there would be some market for a K2 with build
instructions modified to complete all the receiver bands before starting on
the transmitter, for when the licensee upgraded; it might need appropriate
type approval, though, for that market.  It would far exceed the
construction experience required for the licence!
/snip

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[Elecraft] Re: Field Day CW Ops

2007-06-13 Thread dsdzen-ele
I sure wish you lived here in Alabama.  It looks like there is no one in my 
local radio club who is able to do code good enough to do it on FD.  

At my old club in Indiana we had one person who was experienced in CW and 
contesting, and he almost doubled our phone scores each year.

Dave
AE9Q

Message: 26
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:39:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: [QRP-L] CW Field Day operations in Northwest
Oregon
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I am trying to find a group where CW is not shunned.  The two nearby groups 
treat me like I am a leper when I mention the mode.  Often it is the end of any 
conversation.  

I am not sure where the myth of CW operators are always welcome got started 
because it is not true here.

I will contact the people in Eugene but it is about three hours away from me 
due to rivers and mountains.
   Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Steve:

I didn't mean that we don't welcome beginners, just that, with all 
the hassle of FD, it's sometimes pretty easy to become preoccupied 
with other things and to give the impression of being disinterested 
when you're really not.


We also urge all newly licensed ops to join us as well.

73,

Tom   N0SS

At 16:08 06/13/2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Tom:

That depends on the club. Just last week I sent out letters to every 
newly (since Jan 07) licensed/upgraded ham within an hour's drive of 
Topsham ME inviting them to take part in the KS1R/N1TRC operation on Field Day.


Given that many FD operations have GOTA operations, I expect that we 
are not the only ones welcoming beginners.


73,

Steve



At 12:33 PM 6/13/2007, Tom Hammond wrote:

Hi Jason, et al:

For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all concerned, 
Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new operator (to 
the area) to go to a radio club function and expect to be warmly received...




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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Hammond

We'll have two dedicated GOTA coaches and one 'circulating' coach as well.

73,

Tom

At 18:04 06/13/2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Tom:

Yes, I understand. The solution (assuming enough warm bodies are 
available) is to have a designated GOTA coach whose primary task is 
to demonstrate an interest in the newcomers.


73,

Steve
AA4AK


At 06:36 PM 6/13/2007, Tom Hammond wrote:

Hi Steve:

I didn't mean that we don't welcome beginners, just that, with all 
the hassle of FD, it's sometimes pretty easy to become preoccupied 
with other things and to give the impression of being disinterested 
when you're really not.


We also urge all newly licensed ops to join us as well.

73,

Tom   N0SS

At 16:08 06/13/2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

Tom:

That depends on the club. Just last week I sent out letters to 
every newly (since Jan 07) licensed/upgraded ham within an hour's 
drive of Topsham ME inviting them to take part in the KS1R/N1TRC 
operation on Field Day.


Given that many FD operations have GOTA operations, I expect that 
we are not the only ones welcoming beginners.


73,

Steve



At 12:33 PM 6/13/2007, Tom Hammond wrote:

Hi Jason, et al:

For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all 
concerned, Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new 
operator (to the area) to go to a radio club function and expect 
to be warmly received...




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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 6/13/07 12:38:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all concerned, 
 Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new operator (to the 
 area) to go to a radio club function and expect to be warmly received...

Agreed.
 
 During FD, everyone is running around, trying to ensure that 
 everything is installed (properly) and running so things can start on 
 time... additionally, there's a lot (usually) of activity during the 
 entire activity and well-intentioned welcomes often go out the door 
 with trying to keep track of who's operating what and where, and how 
 the rigs are working.
 

I have observed three general types of FD group behavior:

The first is the well-prepared group. People know what they are supposed to 
be doing, how to do it, and where the stuff is for them to do it. And they're 
busy doing it.

The second is the unprepared group. People don't know what they are supposed 
to be doing, don't how to do it, and don't where the stuff is for them to do 
it - or even if they have the stuff. And they're busy trying to figure it out.

The third is the observer/kibitzer group, who simply watch and sometimes 
offer comments. 

The first two groups are distracted by their activity.


 If you want to visit a club, do it at a regular meeting and then 
 you'll have a lot better chance of being warmly received. And, if 
 you're NOT... find another club.  But please don't let the welcome 
 you hoped for and didn't receive during Field Day cause you to decide 
 that this club (whomever they happen to be) is unfriendly or closed 
 to newcomers.
 

The thing with FD is that you have to show up when they are doing the 
planning - which varies all over the place. 

And if one group doesn't seem welcoming, try another. If none of them are 
welcoming, start your own. 

You don't need a formal club - just a group.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] Response to Oregon FD request

2007-06-13 Thread Jason Milldrum

Tom,

I have no doubt that your club, and many others, do a fine job of 
welcoming others to your events. I did come to the conclusion that this 
particular club is unfriendly to newcomers because I got the same 
treatment at one of their regular club meetings later on. It was a very 
good ol' boy atmosphere at both events. What little interaction that I 
did have with club members convinced me that they viewed me as lower 
than them. Perhaps it was because I'm quite a bit younger than most of 
those guys and they didn't take me seriously. Or perhaps they just want 
to keep their socialization to their own cliques. It doesn't really 
matter to me, as I feel that I didn't want to be a part of a group that 
would treat others like that.


My biggest beef is that they went through the trouble of advertising the 
event and stating that all were welcome, when that was clearly not the 
case. I understand that FD is a lot of work, and can be very hectic. 
However, if you don't have the resources to deal with interested 
outsiders, then don't ask for them to come.


Jason Milldrum, NT7S
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Amateur Station NT7S - http://www.nt7s.com
QRPedia - http://www.qrpedia.com

Tom Hammond wrote:

Hi Jason, et al:

For what it's worth, and generally UNfortunately for all concerned, 
Field Day is probably the very WORST TIME for a new operator (to the 
area) to go to a radio club function and expect to be warmly received...


During FD, everyone is running around, trying to ensure that everything 
is installed (properly) and running so things can start on time... 
additionally, there's a lot (usually) of activity during the entire 
activity and well-intentioned welcomes often go out the door with trying 
to keep track of who's operating what and where, and how the rigs are 
working.


If you want to visit a club, do it at a regular meeting and then you'll 
have a lot better chance of being warmly received. And, if you're NOT... 
find another club.  But please don't let the welcome you hoped for and 
didn't receive during Field Day cause you to decide that this club 
(whomever they happen to be) is unfriendly or closed to newcomers.


No matter how hard we might try to be hospitable during FD, it's a 
chore, and we often fail.


BTW - The MMARC (Jefferson City MO) tries(!) to welcome all visitors, 
and we WELCOME CW operators... of course, we welcome all other ops as 
well. In fact, we have a LOT more CW ops than SSB ops... go figger. But 
come visit us at a Club meeting... we'll be even more friendly then.


73,

Tom Hammond   N0SS

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[Elecraft] list guidelines

2007-06-13 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

FYI

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] RIT and XIT

2007-06-13 Thread Detrick Merz

So, with XIT on, as I twiddle the RIT/XIT knob, the displayed
frequency does not get updated?  So after altering using XIT, I have
to switch back momentarily to the RIT display to see my xmit
frequency?  Can someone confirm I'm reading this right... here, all
along, I thought I had broken something since the display didn't
update when I twiddled XIT!
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Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Richardson

Bird-watchers list?


When's LAITF?

Scott N1AIA

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Re: [Elecraft] RIT and XIT

2007-06-13 Thread Don Wilhelm

Derick,

The frequency display during receive will not change when XIT is 
selected because it affects only the frequency during transmit.


It is as simple as that - if you wish to observe the transmit frequency 
during receive, you will have to activate RIT (which is what you are doing).


I find SPLIT to be more intuitive than using XIT for exactly the reasons 
you mention, but YMMV - I use neither RIT or XIT, but prefer SPLIT instead.


73,
Don W3FPR

Detrick Merz wrote:

So, with XIT on, as I twiddle the RIT/XIT knob, the displayed
frequency does not get updated?  So after altering using XIT, I have
to switch back momentarily to the RIT display to see my xmit
frequency?  Can someone confirm I'm reading this right... here, all
along, I thought I had broken something since the display didn't
update when I twiddled XIT!

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[Elecraft] RE: K3 Noise Blanker ahead or behind roofing filter? Plus my own answer to Field Day.

2007-06-13 Thread Kenneth A. Christiansen
I would like to thank Geoff  GM4ESD, Wayne N6KR and Brett N2DTS for 
answering my noise blanker questions. I have decided to order a K3 and 
hope the noise blanker is good enough to fix my problem. I have other 
noises too that are not as bad as the TV so if I am lucky some of them 
may also be helped. I will be keeping my K2 for portable camping which I 
enjoy and the IC-746PRO for 2 and 6 meters. The power supply for the PRO 
should work well for the K3 if I install some power pole connectors. I 
am looking forward to working FD 1B QRP Battery as I have done for the 
last 6 years. That is my answer to the problem of CW operators not being 
popular with the local club. I usually go to a camp ground but this year 
I am thinking of setting up on my driveway by the street. Nothing would 
be used from my normal station and I think it would be fun to see how 
well it would work. Next year I still plan to use the K2 for camping and 
FD even if I have the K3.


73 and GL on FD
W0CZ   Ken
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[Elecraft] K2's on field day...

2007-06-13 Thread cloud runner
W5YA will be active for the 8th consecutive year from Chama, New Mexico, at 
9,000 feet altitude.  We will be 1B2 QRP using K2 # 0700.  If the bands die, we 
will be fly fishing   ;-)

Hope to work you.  Have a great time!

72,

 Fred'n'Steve
KT5X WD9FJL
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