[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2007-08-25 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
   And a very late one indeed!  I just got in and need to get to bed so  
this shall be brief.


   I tried finding the foxes on Thursday evening and worked the entire 90  
minutes to no avail.  Not even a hound was heard.  I did read about folks  
in Washington and Oregon working them but I never heard a peep out of the  
pack.  I think my antennas are still up.  The cayenne has kept the  
squirrels at bay.  I wish they would leave the rest of the house alone but  
they are collecting cones.  Each morning I hear them falling from the sky  
upon my roof.  Who needs an alarm clock?


Please join us tomorrow evening to test the propagation.

 Tomorrow:

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP  help)

   Please join us:

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

ecn.visionseer.com
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[Elecraft] K2 AGC, Seems a bit soft

2007-08-25 Thread Paul Pollock
I am enjoying my recently completed K2-6148 very much, but I had a  
couple of questions and thought others might have some constructive  
thoughts.


While some folks like a slightly soft AGC in the receiver, I'm one of  
those folks that finds that soft signals received softer than loud  
signals (especially SSB) is tiring. I prefer a very stiff and level  
AGC. Mind you, this has nothing to do with the fast/slow delay rates  
or anything along those lines.


1). My K2 exhibits good AGC performance and I believe it works as  
designed, but it is a soft AGC. Are there any ideas on modifications  
to the AGC IC (LM833) that might stiffen the AGC performance?


2). I'm another of those folks where my AGC threshold voltage will  
not go above 3.7x volts. It is my feeling that a threshold set so  
that the AGC actually releases at the noise level is better than a  
setting where the AGC is ON at all levels. On my K2 the AGC never  
releases at any level. Any thoughts on getting the AGC to release  
correctly?


Thanks in advance!
-Paul Pollock KD7BWB

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Re: [Elecraft] Antenna tuners

2007-08-25 Thread waltk8cv4612amos
I too finally came to that conclusion ! I have a old LDG AT-11 and had it on 
one rig and the light bulb went off over my head and I put it in the output 
from the 6 port B&W coax switch in the line to the linear. Now any rig that 
I am using gets tuned. It works great. A newer model with memories would be 
even better as most of my antennas are fairly well matched anyway.


I too have a KAT-100 and yes, it would be neat if that could be used without 
the RS-232 connection to the K-2. Probably some way to trick it into 
thinking it is connected to a K-2 :-)


Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:13 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Antenna tuners



Hi

Has anyone checked to see if it would be possible to get the  Kat100-1 
external

antenna tuner for the k2 to work with the K3?
I'm planning on ordering the K3, but don't want to have to pay for two 
antenna

tuners.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Scott N5sm

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RE: [Elecraft] Antenna tuners

2007-08-25 Thread Ed Muns
> Has anyone checked to see if it would be possible to get the  
> Kat100-1 external antenna tuner for the k2 to work with the K3?
> I'm planning on ordering the K3, but don't want to have to 
> pay for two antenna tuners.

>From the K3 FAQ web pages on the Elecraft web site:

The KAT100 and KPA100 in an EC2 enclosure is NOT supported. The KPA100 was
designed as an integral part of the K2, and specifically not as a general
purpose HF amplifier. In addition, the KPA100 does not include coverage of 6
meters.  The KAT100 requires considerable bi-directional traffic on the
auxbus, and could lead to RFI and other issues. 

73,
Ed - W0YK

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[Elecraft] Antenna tuners

2007-08-25 Thread Scott McDowell

Hi

Has anyone checked to see if it would be possible to get the  Kat100-1 
external

antenna tuner for the k2 to work with the K3?
I'm planning on ordering the K3, but don't want to have to pay for two 
antenna

tuners.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Scott N5sm

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[Elecraft] Elecraft EC Blank Enclosures (KX1..?)

2007-08-25 Thread Andy - GM0NWI

Guy's.. or Wayne\Eric even...

Does anyone know if there is an above subject line enclosure available from
the bhoys at Elecraft for
The KX1 ..??   Or is this gonna happen in the future..?

Seems to me that with having matching project enclosures for the K1 and K2
already (and K3 blank enclosures
Hopefully coming in the near future ...or here already), that it would be
nice to have something available in the size of the KX1 also...

Enquiring Minds need to know...from Beautiful Minds..out there..


72's 73's[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andy
GM0NWI 

Elecraft K2 "Fully Loaded" QRP S/n 01432
Elecraft K2 "Fully Loaded" QRO S/n 05469



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[Elecraft] K3 main/sub receiver antenna routing drawings in progress

2007-08-25 Thread wayne burdick

Hi all,

I'm working on a set of drawings showing how antennas are routed to the 
main and sub receivers in each of four configurations: (1) both KAT3 
and KXV3; (2) KAT3 only; (3) KXV3 only; (4) no KAT3 or KXV3. I hope 
this will answer all of your questions. We'll add the drawings to the 
manual, too.


I also want to emphasize that the K3 is highly modular. This means we 
can offer additional modules and connectors in the future if the 
present set doesn't meet everyone's needs.


I should have the drawings done by tomorrow. Then all I have to do is 
figure out how to put them on our web site while Webmaster Eric is off 
at the Japanese show!


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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RE: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 $160.00 is a bit steep for one speaker.
Radio shack used to sell a dual cone speaker
for about $10.00 that was quite efficient... big magnet.

$150.00 seems a bit much for a cabinet...

Brett
N2DTS



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> 
> Speaking of Speakers...
> 
> Anyone have experience with the Sounds Sweet Speaker?  This was
> supposedly designed for the purposes we are complaining about.
> 
> http://www.soundssweet.com/
> 
> -- 
> JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Toby Deinhardt
If I am not mistaken both RXes will share the same antenna if the 
transverter interface and tuner are not installed.


vy 73 de toby
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K3/100 #??? (< #200)
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[Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Don Rasmussen
The other option that I was initially confused by is
the General Coverage Bandpass filter option.

Yes, the K3 will allow SWL General coverage without
buying this option and -yes- some of the SWL bands
will be attenuated unless you purchase it.

Elecraft has this "Cafeteria plan", where you pay for
the options that you USE, not the things you don't. 

This starts you out at the low $2000 range for a base
radio in the premium class and allows you to work up
to the $4000 Base price that the others offer.

I try not to get hung up on the semantics of that
"transverter module". Anyone that does not use a
transverter, need a bandscope output, or have a second
antenna is thrilled to be saving $79 on his radio. 

If you want any specific item - pony up and enjoy!



 So I guess the second receiver I ordered is useless
unless I also order another option.

 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Charles Harpole
Hey Bob do not cancel ur order let me take it instead.. just 
kidding.




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[Elecraft] K3 subreceiver's aux RF input *can* be used in the absence of a KXV3 or KAT3

2007-08-25 Thread wayne burdick

Dave G4GED wrote:

Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m DXing 
using seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.



Hi Dave,

The subreceiver can get its signal from either the main RF path (shared 
with the main receiver), or via its aux RF input jack (on the 
subreceiver PCB).


Normally, the unused antenna jack on the KAT3 is routed to this input. 
But if you don't have the antenna tuner, you can still route the 
subreceiver's aux RF input to a BNC connector on the rear panel called 
"AUX".


A few operators have told us that they might prefer to use this method 
for obtaining an RX-only input port, rather than install the ATU. We 
may at some point supply a special cable for this purpose. You could 
also install any ordinary panel-mount BNC connector, if you have one, 
and attach the sub's supplied aux RF cable to it.


If you don't need dual receive -- just an RX-only input to use with the 
main receiver when in receive mode -- the KXV3 would provide it.


73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Don Rasmussen
You'll be sorrryyy. ;-)

> I think I'll make everyone on the list happy and
cancel my order (May 4th) so they can move up one
slot.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
So I guess the second receiver I ordered is useless unless
I also order another option.

I think I'll make everyone on the list happy and cancel
my order (May 4th) so they can move up one slot.

When they get out and in use I'll figure out if I really
want it.  I have no need for the tuner or the transverter.

Bob  W6VY

--- Bill Tippett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> W6VY:
>  >Now I'm confused.  From the FAQ's:
> 
> If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a
> de
> facto RX ANT?
> 
> Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna
> to
> either receiver.
> 
> I can't see why I would have to order the transverter option
> (which I have no use for) to use two antennas.
> 
>  ANT 2 is *ONLY* available if you order KAT3.
> I have no need for KAT3 so everything I said
> applies to that case.  G4SED did not mention
> KAT3 so I assumed he did not plan to order it.
> 
>  I would also be a little concerned using
> ANT 2 as a RX port because it is primarily
> intended as a TX antenna and therefore it may
> not have the same overload protection as the
> true RX antenna ports.
> 
>  I have no use for the transverter option
> but it is a much less expensive route than a
> KAT3 (my antennas are all resonant) and it also
> provides IF OUT for a wideband SDR bandscope.
> 
>  73,  Bill W4ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Tom Hammond

At 18:05 08/25/2007, Thom LaCosta wrote:


On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Tom Hammond wrote:

Some seem to be more susceptible to RF getting back into them, but at
$15 (US), not including shipping, they are a great buy, and MOST
(though not all) have proven to be fairly immune from RFI.


Is there a list of the models that have the best rfi immunity?


Unfortunately, not to my knowledge... MOST seem pretty immune, esp.
of your antennas aren't right on top of the shack.

Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Tom Hammond wrote:



Some seem to be more susceptible to RF getting back into them, but at
$15 (US), not including shipping, they are a great buy, and MOST
(though not all) have proven to be fairly immune from RFI.


Is there a list of the models that have the best rfi immunity?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread John

At 04:48 PM 25/08/07, John wrote:

At 04:36 PM 25/08/07, you wrote:

Now I'm confused.  From the FAQ's:

If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de
facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to
either receiver.

I can't see why I would have to order the transverter option
(which I have no use for) to use two antennas.


To have Ant1 & Ant2, you have to have the ATU option installed.

John,
k7up 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Ed K1EP
At 8/25/2007 06:36 PM, Robert Dorchuck W6VY wrote:
>Now I'm confused.  From the FAQ's:

Now I am confused.  Lyle indicates that the standard K3 has only one Antenna 
port.  You require either a KXV3 or KAT3 to get another.  I would think that 
the KXV3 is the less expensive alternative to get a second antenna.

>From: Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Configuration Questions
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:35:24 -0700
>
>>1.  Is the RX antenna input for 160-6m a standard
>>part of the K3 or is a KXV3 also required?
>
>The RX in and RX Out jacks are part of the KXV3 option.
>
>>2.  Is a KAT3 required for a 2nd TX antenna input?
>
>The KAT3 has two antenna jacks.  The K3 without a KAT3 has one.



>
>If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de
>facto RX ANT?
>
>Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to
>either receiver.
>
>I can't see why I would have to order the transverter option
>(which I have no use for) to use two antennas.
>
>Bob  W6VY
>
>--- Bill Tippett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> G4GED:
>>  >Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m
>> DXing using
>> seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.
>> 
>>  >Please dont confuse me with too many fancy options. If I order the
>> basic
>> unit+ Sub rcvr, what's the  minimum accessory  I need to order to
>> provide a
>> RX-only i/p port function for the use intended above?
>> 
>>  Dave you need a KXV3 to get a primaryRX ANT input for the 
>> Main RX.  The Sub RX can
>> use ANT 1 (TX antenna) or it can use the AUX RF
>> input for a secondary RX antenna input.  The
>> K3 may not come wired for the latter but I am
>> told it can be configured by the user that way.
>> This all assumes you do not have the KAT3
>> which provides yet another alternative with ANT 2.
>> 
>>  I may wire up an external Magic-T splitter
>> to split my RX antenna between RX ANT and AUX RF.
>> This way I can use the same RX antenna for both
>> receivers which might be useful when operating
>> split with a pileup.  For diversity RX, I would
>> use my vertical TX array (ANT 1) to the Main RX
>> and would use a Beverage on AUX RF (after it
>> went through the splitter).  There will be a 3
>> dB loss to both sides of the splitter output but
>> this is not a significant issue for the low bands
>> where you are normally using RX antennas.
>> 
>>  In summary, order your K3 with KRX3 and
>> KXV3.  This should give you exactly what you
>> need.  I believe there may eventually be an
>> antenna only module which will preclude the need
>> for a KXV3, but I also want the wideband buffered
>> IF OUT on the KXV3 for an SDR bandscope, so I
>> don't feel too bad about getting the $79 KXV3.
>> 
>>  73,  Bill  W4ZV
>> 
>> P.S.  Think I got this right but Ed W0YK will
>> correct me if I didn't.
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Bill Tippett



W6VY:
>Now I'm confused.  From the FAQ's:

If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de
facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to
either receiver.

I can't see why I would have to order the transverter option
(which I have no use for) to use two antennas.

ANT 2 is *ONLY* available if you order KAT3.
I have no need for KAT3 so everything I said
applies to that case.  G4SED did not mention
KAT3 so I assumed he did not plan to order it.

I would also be a little concerned using
ANT 2 as a RX port because it is primarily
intended as a TX antenna and therefore it may
not have the same overload protection as the
true RX antenna ports.

I have no use for the transverter option
but it is a much less expensive route than a
KAT3 (my antennas are all resonant) and it also
provides IF OUT for a wideband SDR bandscope.

73,  Bill W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
Now I'm confused.  From the FAQ's:

If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de
facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to
either receiver.

I can't see why I would have to order the transverter option
(which I have no use for) to use two antennas.

Bob  W6VY

--- Bill Tippett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> G4GED:
>  >Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m
> DXing using
> seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.
> 
>  >Please dont confuse me with too many fancy options. If I order the
> basic
> unit+ Sub rcvr, what's the  minimum accessory  I need to order to
> provide a
> RX-only i/p port function for the use intended above?
> 
>  Dave you need a KXV3 to get a primaryRX ANT input for the 
> Main RX.  The Sub RX can
> use ANT 1 (TX antenna) or it can use the AUX RF
> input for a secondary RX antenna input.  The
> K3 may not come wired for the latter but I am
> told it can be configured by the user that way.
> This all assumes you do not have the KAT3
> which provides yet another alternative with ANT 2.
> 
>  I may wire up an external Magic-T splitter
> to split my RX antenna between RX ANT and AUX RF.
> This way I can use the same RX antenna for both
> receivers which might be useful when operating
> split with a pileup.  For diversity RX, I would
> use my vertical TX array (ANT 1) to the Main RX
> and would use a Beverage on AUX RF (after it
> went through the splitter).  There will be a 3
> dB loss to both sides of the splitter output but
> this is not a significant issue for the low bands
> where you are normally using RX antennas.
> 
>  In summary, order your K3 with KRX3 and
> KXV3.  This should give you exactly what you
> need.  I believe there may eventually be an
> antenna only module which will preclude the need
> for a KXV3, but I also want the wideband buffered
> IF OUT on the KXV3 for an SDR bandscope, so I
> don't feel too bad about getting the $79 KXV3.
> 
>  73,  Bill  W4ZV
> 
> P.S.  Think I got this right but Ed W0YK will
> correct me if I didn't.
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Bill Tippett



G4GED:
>Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m DXing using
seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.

>Please dont confuse me with too many fancy options. If I order the basic
unit+ Sub rcvr, what's the  minimum accessory  I need to order to provide a
RX-only i/p port function for the use intended above?

Dave you need a KXV3 to get a primaryRX ANT input for the 
Main RX.  The Sub RX can

use ANT 1 (TX antenna) or it can use the AUX RF
input for a secondary RX antenna input.  The
K3 may not come wired for the latter but I am
told it can be configured by the user that way.
This all assumes you do not have the KAT3
which provides yet another alternative with ANT 2.

I may wire up an external Magic-T splitter
to split my RX antenna between RX ANT and AUX RF.
This way I can use the same RX antenna for both
receivers which might be useful when operating
split with a pileup.  For diversity RX, I would
use my vertical TX array (ANT 1) to the Main RX
and would use a Beverage on AUX RF (after it
went through the splitter).  There will be a 3
dB loss to both sides of the splitter output but
this is not a significant issue for the low bands
where you are normally using RX antennas.

In summary, order your K3 with KRX3 and
KXV3.  This should give you exactly what you
need.  I believe there may eventually be an
antenna only module which will preclude the need
for a KXV3, but I also want the wideband buffered
IF OUT on the KXV3 for an SDR bandscope, so I
don't feel too bad about getting the $79 KXV3.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

P.S.  Think I got this right but Ed W0YK will
correct me if I didn't.



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[Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - still confused?

2007-08-25 Thread Dave G4GED

Hi guys
I'm another prospective buyer for the K3 but a newbie to this list.

I've searched the archieves and altho' this subject has been touched on 
before, I'm afraid I'm still confused by all the options that's been 
described.


Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m DXing using 
seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.


Please dont confuse me with too many fancy options. If I order the basic 
unit+ Sub rcvr, what's the  minimum accessory  I need to order to provide a 
RX-only i/p port function for the use intended above?


BTW, The sooner the K3 Manual is released, the better!

Many thanks in advance
73 Dave

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RE: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Roger Stein
One more idea:

For those who subscribe to QST, take a look at Oct 2004, page 28
titled "A High Quality Speaker System for the Ham Shack".

It has a switchable response to handle both communications and music.

For the "wood butchers" in the group..gentlemen, start your table saws!

73, Roger WA7BOC
K2 #755...still for sale, by the way ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread AJSOENKE
With the increasing popularity of using headsets with computer sound output  
there is a vast surplus of sound systems built for computers, that were 
usually  packaged with the computer, that are gathering dust in garages 
everywhere. 
I've  got so many lying around I usually haul them to the local Ham club 
meetings to  give away. The sound quality ranges from poor to truly 
remarkable.Some 
are  speakers only that rely on the output of the sound card for volume and 
some come  equipped with built in amps and a wall wart or power plug. I tried 
about  10 of them on my K2 and had results that were all positive and most 
sounded  very good.
No modification was needed to use any of them. I tried them on my FT 100  
which has severe sound quality problems with the built in speaker. I have  been 
using a 3 Inch "LCS-80M" in a plastic box (made in China) with the  FT-100 and 
had good sounding audio for years. I use it primarily for when IO  want to use 
the GC AM frequencies.
 
To summarize - lots of good cheap or free stuff out there if you want  it.
 
Al WA6VNN



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Question

2007-08-25 Thread hank k8dd

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By non-contester would you include DXer?  A second receive channel to  
monitor the pack when your calling a dx station on an offset is  essential.
 
Al WA6VNN 

Absolutely!  I miss my old Ten Tec Omni and the Corsair we used
to use where you could listen to both VFOs. 


It was great when you were in a split pile-up and even in contests
when you are outside of the US on 40M  transmitting below 7100
on SSB and listening in the US phone band!

72  73HankK8DD

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 high current draw

2007-08-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

Please differentiate between HI CUR messages and a measured power supply 
current to the K2/100.  The answer will tell you where to look.


If you are simply seeing HI CUR messages, check the power output from 
the KPA100 - if  you find that it is putting out max power (100 watts or 
greater) for all setting of the power control above 10 watts, then look 
for the trouble in the KPA100 wattmeter first.  It is quite likely that 
diodes D16 and D17 were zapped by a lightning surge (it is summertime 
and lightning surges are not uncommon) - if this is the case, just 
replacing the diodes will usually cure the problem - and make a mental 
memo to disconnect your antennas when not in use.


The HI CUR messages indicate only that the current being drawn by the 
base K2 (not the KPA100) is in excess of the setting you have for CAL 
CUR.  You might want to check the CAL CUR setting - with the KPA100 it 
should be set to 3.50 amps or higher.


Another cause of HI CUR messages can be a low voltage from your power 
supply - check its output and the connecting cables for good low 
resistance connections.  The way the K2 controls power results in a 
higher current draw when the voltage at the KPA100 (or K2) power 
connector is reduced.


If you are having excessive current draw from your power supply (as 
measured by an external meter - perhaps on your power supply *and* you 
have power control from end to end of the power pot, then you should be 
looking at either the T/R switch or the Low Pass Filters in the KPA100 
*or* at your antenna and feedline for the problem source.


73,
Don W3FPR

Soaring Eagles wrote:

Folks,

My K2/100 has been working fine for over 6 months. Today I turned it 
on and I get a high current draw anytime the KPA100 is inline. Setting 
power <10 works fine. I haven't even moved the radio since it last 
worked, so I'm not sure how to go about troubleshooting.


Thanks for any help!

Jim, WD9HBC
K2 #5757
KX1 #1517


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RE: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Chuck Gehring
I built my external speaker using Tom Hammond's excellent instructions and
amp.  http://k2qrp.com/Radio%20Projects.htm
I have since improved the basic speaker amp combination with the New England
QRP NESCAF audio filter  http://newenglandqrp.org/nescaf
I am very pleased with the results

73, Chuck
K2CG

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:05 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

So, how about someone comming up with a good communications quality
amplified speaker and enclosure design, RFI proof of course!

I would build one...I believe there was/is an Elecraft design but it
looked overly complex...

Anyone care to suggest a suitable audio chip, speaker and enclosure?

-- 
73, Deni

F5VJC
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[Elecraft] OT: Lightning Strike Obliterates Delta Loop - FYI

2007-08-25 Thread David Wilburn
In August here on the east coast, we often have lots of thunderstorms. 
At the leading edge of the last cell moving through for the evening, I 
heard the rumbles getting nearer and went out to the shack to shut some 
computers down and check the radar to see where the storm was.  I have a 
2m rig with an antenna in the attic that I use during these times for 
Skywarn net activity.  I checked back in to see how things were going.


I keep the K2 disconnected from the antenna when not in use, and the end 
of the coax in an apothecary jar.  I had shut down the other computers, 
and was checking the radar on the one last computer, when it hit.  (Good 
news is family and K2 are fine).


At the time, I did not know what it had hit, but some breakers in the 
house tripped.  I reset them, and found that my Ethernet port on my DSL 
modem, the Ethernet router, and the Ethernet switch in the office/shack 
were all dead.  The 2m attic antenna and rig were running fine, and I 
informed the net of the event, and signed out.


Further investigation, after the storm had moved far enough away, (its 
was about 2AM by now) found part of my antenna hanging in the driveway. 
 A quick check around back showed a severely damaged balun.


Let me digress and explain that I "had" a 80m delta loop, up about 70ft, 
fed with 300 ohm line, that went to a 4:1 balun up under the eves.  Then 
RG-213 coax went from there, under the house, to the front of the house 
where my office/shack is.  Immediately adjacent to where the 300 ohm 
line comes down, hanging in a tree, is a 2m Isopole antenna.  That coax 
goes under the house and comes up in a cabinet where all my DSL 
equipment is.  This feeds a 2m rig in the kitchen.  At the time of the 
strike, the antenna was disconnected and the end was in a mason jar.


After daylight, I found that over 1/3 of the loop was "gone".  The 
insulation off of the 300 ohm twin lead was all over my back yard and 
roof.  The balun was blown apart.  I assume there are some "issues" with 
the RG-213 that was connected to it.  A battery operated "Atomic" clock, 
on the other side of the wall balun, ceased operation immediately. 
Likely due to the EMP.


I have since order a Cobra antenna, looks pretty interesting.  Will let 
you know how it works.  http://www.k1jek.com/


Lessons learned.
Do not bring coax in same hole as Ethernet.  Not sure yet how I am going 
to change this, as I have quite a few Ethernet runs under the house, but 
will have to see what I can figure out.  I had planned, and now will be 
installing a box outside with suppressors, and ground rods to try to 
reduce amount of charge getting inside the house.


The list of damaged equipment is extensive, and seems to grow by the 
day.  The most painful damage was to a Kantronics KPC 9612+ that was 
part of a TelPac node for EMCOMM, and to my monochrome, networked, 
duplexing laser printer.  I work from home and use the printer quite a 
bit.  I have obviously gotten the computer network back up.


Thought I would share the story with you, and hope to be back on the air 
when the new antenna arrives.  Take care and 73!

--

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 #5982
FP#-1751
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Tom Hammond

My project was built using Dave's basic layout, but a different amp.

His is an EXCELLENT ARTICLE.

Tom

At 10:55 08/25/2007, JT Croteau wrote:

On 8/25/07, Tom Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you wish to BUILD a custom K2 amplified speaker into an EC2 case,

There's been a neat EC2 companion speaker article on Elecraft's site
for quite awhile.  It was built by VE6DRW.

http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/SP2%20External%20Speaker%20for%20the%20K2.pdf

I've been thinking about building one.

--
JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Ken Kaplan

I built the speaker from the plans on the Elecraft site. Works very well.

http://www.arkayengravers.com/elecraft/sp2/

has some pix. Not entirely finished. I think I might put in one of 
N0SS's TDA2003V amplifiers.

73
Ken WB2ART

JT Croteau wrote:

On 8/25/07, Tom Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If you wish to BUILD a custom K2 amplified speaker into an EC2 case,



There's been a neat EC2 companion speaker article on Elecraft's site
for quite awhile.  It was built by VE6DRW.

http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/SP2%20External%20Speaker%20for%20the%20K2.pdf

I've been thinking about building one.



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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread JT Croteau
On 8/25/07, Tom Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you wish to BUILD a custom K2 amplified speaker into an EC2 case,

There's been a neat EC2 companion speaker article on Elecraft's site
for quite awhile.  It was built by VE6DRW.

http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/SP2%20External%20Speaker%20for%20the%20K2.pdf

I've been thinking about building one.

-- 
JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Tom Hammond

Hi Deni:


So, how about someone comming up with a good communications quality
amplified speaker and enclosure design, RFI proof of course!

I would build one...I believe there was/is an Elecraft design but it
looked overly complex...

Anyone care to suggest a suitable audio chip, speaker and enclosure?


The Motorola amplified (7W to 15W) speakers are GREAT for our uses.

Some seem to be more susceptible to RF getting back into them, but at
$15 (US), not including shipping, they are a great buy, and MOST
(though not all) have proven to be fairly immune from RFI.

I have modification (wiring) instructions for many of the Motorola
amplified speaker models on my web site at:

   http://www.n0ss.net/motorola_amp_spkr_mods_20061219.pdf

I also have plans for an amplified speaker which you can build into
a case of your choosing.  See:

   http://www.n0ss.net/tda2003v_5w-7w_af_amp_v7.pdf

If you wish to BUILD a custom K2 amplified speaker into an EC2 case,
I can supply some documentation. It's not on my web site, but I will
be happy to provide what I have (fairly complete) just for the asking.

73,

Tom HammondN0SS

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RE: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Yes, I have a Sounds Sweet speaker.  I like it.  It's really quite large,
though.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Speaking of Speakers...

Anyone have experience with the Sounds Sweet Speaker?  This was
supposedly designed for the purposes we are complaining about.

http://www.soundssweet.com/

-- 
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[Elecraft] Re: Love Those K3 Memories!

2007-08-25 Thread Jerry.Van

But let me toss out an idea. These first 10 memories *could* store
exactly the same thing as the normal band memories (those you
get to by tapping BAND UP/DN), but only for 10 bands (say 160-10 m).
This behavior could be specified using a future menu entry. It would
give you two-tap, per-band recall over the entire range.


10 bands is 160 - 6 (I don't count 60 ).  Using the first 10 memories
as the "last used" frequency for each band makes a lot of sense.  Adding
the ability to cycle through a four frequency per band stack for each
key
would be even better.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

Joe, that's a TERRIFIC idea.  I was hoping someone would come up
with an idea like yours to make band changing along with the ability to
change frequency within a band along with mode, bandwidth, etc. by
repeatedly tapping the same button.  It would be nice if someday
Elecraft could come up with a remote pod that would also incorporate
your idea.

Jerry  N8BM


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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread JT Croteau
Speaking of Speakers...

Anyone have experience with the Sounds Sweet Speaker?  This was
supposedly designed for the purposes we are complaining about.

http://www.soundssweet.com/

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] need dimensions: DL1, N-Gen

2007-08-25 Thread Larry Phipps
Check with Dave, W8FGU. He offers some nifty little enclosures for the 
AF1 and W1... he may have more coming.


http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/

73,
Larry N8LP



Andrew Moore wrote:

Can someone give me the PC board dimensions of the DL1 and N-Gen mini-modules?  
Didn't see them in the manuals.  I'm planning an enclosure for some accessories 
in advance of ordering these kits.

Please email off-list.

Thanks,
--Andrew, NV1B
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[Elecraft] KPA100 high current draw

2007-08-25 Thread Soaring Eagles

Folks,

My K2/100 has been working fine for over 6 months. Today I turned it on and 
I get a high current draw anytime the KPA100 is inline. Setting power <10 
works fine. I haven't even moved the radio since it last worked, so I'm not 
sure how to go about troubleshooting.


Thanks for any help!

Jim, WD9HBC
K2 #5757
KX1 #1517

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[Elecraft] need dimensions: DL1, N-Gen

2007-08-25 Thread Andrew Moore
Can someone give me the PC board dimensions of the DL1 and N-Gen mini-modules?  
Didn't see them in the manuals.  I'm planning an enclosure for some accessories 
in advance of ordering these kits.

Please email off-list.

Thanks,
--Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Also for those interested in good audio powered by 12 volts, do a search 
on Ebay for 'equalizer booster' and you will find several high powered, 
12 volt, equalizers.  Most can be directly driven with a speaker output 
from a receiver, and if you want to drive them from a high impedance 
line input it is usually a simple matter to locate and remove the input 
swamping resistor.  They do take a lot of 12 volt power, but it is one 
inexpensive solution to the power amplifier.  Don''t forget to fuse the 
speaker leads too - 100 watts per channel is a lot of power (even if it 
is peak power) and can melt speaker voice coils quickly.


73,
Don W3FPR

Brett gazdzinski wrote:

 I think it would be a lot easier (but not as much fun) to
buy a good bookshelf speaker and small hifi amp.
I got a set of little hifi speakers from a place that sold
used hifi gear cheap, hooked them up to an old hifi
amplifier, and into the computer sound card for games.
I used to play flying games a long time ago

The sound was fantastic, not like what computer speakers
typically do, but 50 real watts per channel and GOOD speakers.
When you crashed or ran into something, you FELT it.
  


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[Elecraft] DL1 Building a success, Soldering Iron Runaway

2007-08-25 Thread John Huggins

My kid and I just finished off the DL1 Dummy Load.

Simple? Yes, but it introduced quite nicely some basic soldering skills 
for the 12 year old.


Also, it demonstrated one key requirement in kit building... Read the 
text of a particular step in its entirety. I let him read the steps and 
when we got to the one commanding "Install the 100Ω Resistors" he did 
not read the rest of the step suggesting to install them 1/16 inch above 
the board. Luckily being a circuit designer EE I figured elevating them 
made sense so we did, but if we had simply read the whole step we would 
not have had to guess.


So hats off to Elecraft for producing good step by step documentation.

Oh I also bought some new tips and shroud for my old Weller EC2001 
Soldering Station. I had not used this in many years. We installed a new 
tip and shroud, turned it on and moved to doing the parts inventory. I 
looked up to see the tip red hot. Hmmm... I twiddled with the five pin 
connection between the iron and the base unit and it calmed down. All 
the while the temperature seemed to display what looked like a valid 
varying value around 700°F while it was clearly much higher. I don't 
know what happened, but I wanted to share the warning to visually verify 
your iron has not gone into heating runaway. I have heard folks say the 
five pin hand piece connector can be a little flaky. I guess this is why 
so many of you like the Weller with the ferromagnetic tips eh?


On to the XG2 Receiver Test Oscillator...

John


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RE: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 I think it would be a lot easier (but not as much fun) to
buy a good bookshelf speaker and small hifi amp.
I got a set of little hifi speakers from a place that sold
used hifi gear cheap, hooked them up to an old hifi
amplifier, and into the computer sound card for games.
I used to play flying games a long time ago

The sound was fantastic, not like what computer speakers
typically do, but 50 real watts per channel and GOOD speakers.
When you crashed or ran into something, you FELT it.

You could build an outboard amp, or on some speakers
include it inside the speaker cabinet, but the people who make GOOD
speakers spend a lot of time getting the response in the ballpark,
so its somewhat flat and not real bumpy...

There are a lot of chips that give very good audio with very
few parts, one was an lm383 or something like that, 3 or 4
extra parts and a TO220 package with 5 or 7  leads, 12
watts out I think, there were a few models of various
power outputs.
I put one in an old Gonset G76 to improve the audio
on a very good receiver (262 KHz IF).
The entire audio amp was 1 inch square.

Not much point of doing this on the K2 other than maybe
more volume, but the K3 I hope has good fidelity out the
line out jack (sound card).

You can always reduce the fidelity if you want, you can not
improve it without mods to a radio.

Its always nice to have CLEAN and QUIET audio power available,
even if you want to limit the frequency response and volume.

Without a K3, you could put the audio through a 10 band
eq, and limit the response to whatever you want, even
very narrow for CW, or widen it up for swl or AM work.

Used high quality audio equipment is VERY inexpensive...

Brett
N2DTS







 

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of F5vjc
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:05 AM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?
> 
> So, how about someone comming up with a good communications quality
> amplified speaker and enclosure design, RFI proof of course!
> 
> I would build one...I believe there was/is an Elecraft design but it
> looked overly complex...
> 
> Anyone care to suggest a suitable audio chip, speaker and enclosure?
> 
> -- 
> 73, Deni
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Deni,

Actually it has already been done.

Tom Hammond has a design with minimum components on his website that 
uses a TDA2003 audio chip.  Look in the General Amateur Radio files 
section at www.n0ss.net.  That is the one I am using.  Plenty of audio.  
I am driving it into two paralleled 5 inch woofer 9 ohm speakers and it 
works great and I switch in a 'tweeter' which consists of the same 
speaker used in the K2 (Jameco 6) when I want more high frequency 
response for SWL Broadcast listening - my 'tweeter' is connected with a 
series 40 uF non-polarized capacitor.  My woofers were a special buy 
that I made many years ago and are not readily available, so my speaker 
setup is not readily reproducible.


My prior amplifier used only one of the 9 ohm speakers and also worked 
fine.  More power is available with lower impedance speakers (or in my 
case a paralleled pair). 

The frequency response will depend on your speaker choices and the 
enclosure - a bit of experimenting may be in order to obtain what you 
want to hear.  A metal enclosure and ferrite beads on the inputs can 
produce the RF Proofing, but I use a wood cabinet with the speakers to 
control resonance effects.  The electronics can be inside a shielded box 
if you encounter RF problems.
Maybe someone will come up with details of an enclosure design using 
available speakers.


73,
Don W3FPR

F5vjc wrote:

So, how about someone comming up with a good communications quality
amplified speaker and enclosure design, RFI proof of course!

I would build one...I believe there was/is an Elecraft design but it
looked overly complex...

Anyone care to suggest a suitable audio chip, speaker and enclosure?

  

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[Elecraft] "lousy audio" ?

2007-08-25 Thread F5vjc
So, how about someone comming up with a good communications quality
amplified speaker and enclosure design, RFI proof of course!

I would build one...I believe there was/is an Elecraft design but it
looked overly complex...

Anyone care to suggest a suitable audio chip, speaker and enclosure?

-- 
73, Deni

F5VJC
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