Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
I too would like to be able to send low power RF to my SGC to tune it. I'm NOT asking for a f/w change right now, my suggestion below requires it be incorporated with the capability of controlling the KAT3 on individual antennas. A menu option that sets the power you wish to use. The function is invoked via the 'ATU TUNE' button and sends a carrier out the current ANT socket for as long as the button is pressed (is it possible to press a button in this way?). This would save using one of the PF buttons and since with the KAT3 'off' for that antenna, the button is 'free' it's a logical, labelled choice (external 'ATU TUNE'). I think there was discussion of being able to key this via the ACC connector and that would work well for me too - using a push button on a lead. It's possible to put the Yaesu FT-897 into 20W carrier transmit by grounding a 'little brown wire', indicating the rig is on battery power (limits power to 20W) AND grounding the ring of the ACC connector, intended to 'key' the rig. I'd like to be able to use a lot less power than that, the SG-237 will tune up on 3W. On 25/9/07 06:32, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: A useful feature that was mentioned a long time ago (and put on the back burner I think), was adding a programmable transmit feature to one the PF buttons to give a carrier for linear/ATU tuning. I have this feature on my Kenwood TS-480 and find it invaluable. Pressing thw 480's PF button toggles a carrier on and off (regardless of mode), the carrier level can be adjusted while it's transmitting via the normal power setting route and can be set anywhere from 5 to 100 Watts in one Watt steps (the power setting limits of the 480). The power level is stored and occurs regardless of the main power level setting, so for example if I'm set for 5 Watts of QRP CW, pressing the button gives me 10 Watts for the external MFJ auto ATU. If I'm using my valve linear and have the 480 set at 25 Watts on SSB, pressing the PF button gives me 10 Watts to tune the linear with. This is similar, if not the same functionality, as those external 3rd party button boxes do for the Yaesu FT817/857/897 rigs -- The high minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think. -Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Dave G4AON napsal(a): I seem to be missing the point of this PTT CW keying thing... Is it for transverter/linear/mast head pre-amp use on VHF/UHF? BINGO! Great job made by Elecraft! Thanks! 73! Lexa, ok1dst ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
This capability is exactly what I'd like to see, too. I'm actually using a manual external tuner on ANT B. I can tune using as little as 1W. Ideally, I'd like the option (which David didn't request) to see the SWR when tuning. In K2 terminology, I'd like to have CAL S mode automatically selected on one antenna socket and AUTO on the other. The ability to set the power level for tuning independently of the main power control would be a real bonus. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/25/07, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too would like to be able to send low power RF to my SGC to tune it. I'm NOT asking for a f/w change right now, my suggestion below requires it be incorporated with the capability of controlling the KAT3 on individual antennas. A menu option that sets the power you wish to use. The function is invoked via the 'ATU TUNE' button and sends a carrier out the current ANT socket for as long as the button is pressed (is it possible to press a button in this way?). This would save using one of the PF buttons and since with the KAT3 'off' for that antenna, the button is 'free' it's a logical, labelled choice (external 'ATU TUNE'). I think there was discussion of being able to key this via the ACC connector and that would work well for me too - using a push button on a lead. It's possible to put the Yaesu FT-897 into 20W carrier transmit by grounding a 'little brown wire', indicating the rig is on battery power (limits power to 20W) AND grounding the ring of the ACC connector, intended to 'key' the rig. I'd like to be able to use a lot less power than that, the SG-237 will tune up on 3W. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Yes, watching the SWR would be good (I'd assumed that would be there). I use an ext. SWR meter, but watching the SWR as the SGC tunes via the K3 display would be much nicer. On 25/9/07 09:00, Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: This capability is exactly what I'd like to see, too. I'm actually using a manual external tuner on ANT B. I can tune using as little as 1W. Ideally, I'd like the option (which David didn't request) to see the SWR when tuning. In K2 terminology, I'd like to have CAL S mode automatically selected on one antenna socket and AUTO on the other. The ability to set the power level for tuning independently of the main power control would be a real bonus. -- We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done! (PF Tuning button)
SWR is displayed on the TS-480 when using the PF button to generate a carrier. The function works perfectly on the Kenwood rig, no need to re-invent things - just a little copying/cheating would be fine by me. 73 Dave, G4AON ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
At 9/24/2007 11:27 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: Joe, aa4nn wrote: Do you mean ...closing PTT has no effect because QSK already has you in transmit mode? Or while in QSK mode must you closs PTT in order to transmit? de Joe, aa4nn There are three modes available. 1) PTT 2) Semi-QSK 3) QSK In QSK mode, you just hit the key to transmit. That's all. In PTT mode, you must close PTT, which switches to TX mode, and then hitting the key transmits. If you are in QSK mode, closing the PTT switch will put you in transmit mode. But the key is NOT disabled when PTT is open. That is great! I am amazed at how quickly the idea was accepted, implemented and tested considering the fact that Elecraft is concentrating on getting the FCS out the door. Probably another example of feature creep, but one that is much appreciated. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
So do I, but when using such a low power level for tuning, the minimum is much easier to observe using the digital meter than the analog one. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/25/07, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, watching the SWR would be good (I'd assumed that would be there). I use an ext. SWR meter, but watching the SWR as the SGC tunes via the K3 display would be much nicer. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
I seem to be missing the point of this PTT CW keying thing... Is it for transverter/linear/mast head pre-amp use on VHF/UHF? I don't know, but that certainly hasn't been the focus of our discussion of this feature. It is simply providing PTT-only control of transmission for the CW mode, just like PTT works in SSB. The transmit mode is 100% controlled by the PTT line rather than transmission being turned on and off in the QSK or SEMI break-in modes by PADDLE or KEY closures. Some CW operators prefer PTT-only over QSK or SEMI break-in. Some SO2R controllers and other station control units depend on this feature. I understand that it is required for some VHF/UHF transverter operations. CW PTT-only (i.e., QSK and SEMI break-in are disabled) is on every transceiver except the K2, as several postings have reiterated recently on this reflector. A useful feature that was mentioned a long time ago (and put on the back burner I think), was adding a programmable transmit feature to one the PF buttons to give a carrier for linear/ATU tuning. I have this feature on my Kenwood TS-480 and find it invaluable. Pressing thw 480's PF button toggles a carrier on and off (regardless of mode), the carrier level can be adjusted while it's transmitting via the normal power setting route and can be set anywhere from 5 to 100 Watts in one Watt steps (the power setting limits of the 480). The power level is stored and occurs regardless of the main power level setting, so for example if I'm set for 5 Watts of QRP CW, pressing the button gives me 10 Watts for the external MFJ auto ATU. If I'm using my valve linear and have the 480 set at 25 Watts on SSB, pressing the PF button gives me 10 Watts to tune the linear with. This is similar, if not the same functionality, as those external 3rd party button boxes do for the Yaesu FT817/857/897 rigs Has this use of one of the three PF buttons been included yet? The TUNE button on the K3, as on the K2, transmits a carrier at the power level set on the POWER control. There is not yet a dedicated button or even a Function that could be assigned to a PF button, that transmits a carrier at a reduced power level. With the KAT3 installed, though, you can tap ATU and get a five-watt carrier transmitted to tune the KAT3. I find myself using that button for just the purpose you describe. It transmits 5 watts and auto-tunes the KAT3 to match the input circuit of my linear amplifiers. While I certainly don't need those inputs (since they are nominally 50 ohms), I do it anyway just to make use of the five watts, as you desire, for preliminary tuning of the linear. I then follow that with the TUNE button and the POWER set at, say, 50 watts for final tweaking of the linear for 1500 watts output. BTW, there are 10 PF buttons now on the K3, not three as on the earlier front panel renderings. PF1 and PF2 are hold operations on the RIT and XIT buttons, while both tap and hold operations on the M1-M4 buttons can be used for PF functions instead of message buffers (on a one by one basis). 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
That is great! I am amazed at how quickly the idea was accepted, implemented and tested considering the fact that Elecraft is concentrating on getting the FCS out the door. Probably another example of feature creep, but one that is much appreciated. Well, I've been campaigning for this during field test for two months now. Many of our field testers prefer to use QSK and/or SEMI break-in all the time on CW and don't see a need for PTT-only CW transmission control. Thanks to you and others speaking up, it is clear that this standard feature on all radios is really being used by a number of operators. I wouldn't call it feature creep, but rather a basic feature that should be in every radio. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Don wrote the following: Joe and all, I have the same questions. Since no one has explained the difference between 'Transmit mode' and the K3 is now transmitting since QSK has been started with a keypress - I would believe that the PTT input is redundant when in QSK or Semi-break-in modes. Yes, a little clarification (or language lessons) seem to be appropriate here. How is 'Transmit mode' different from 'transmitting already because the key was tapped'? Does closing PTT when in QSK mode inhibit a return to receive until the PTT is released? - that is the only thing I can think of. It certainly seems that the generation of RF is controlled by the paddles in any case (except for the new TX inhibit condition). A few things were clarified, but confusion still reigns high in my mind. 73, Don W3FPR Am I missing something or is this PTT stuff simply the same as MOX (in a Yaesu)? Pressing MOX is the same as pressing the PTT and holding it there until switched off. TX light is on, RX is muted (ie Transmit Mode) and hitting the key will transmit RF - it overrides both QSK and VOX. MOX will only actually put out RF of it's own accord in AM or FM modes that involve a carrier. In QSK, both MOX and VOX are disengaged and Break-In is switched in. Now hitting the key simultaneously kicks in the PTT and transmits RF but only for the duration of the key press. I thought this is pretty standard stuff and would assume the K3 would more or less follow this protocol. But as I say maybe I've missed something subtle in the discussion in which case I'll apologise and go back to sleep. 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Thanks for good explanatiion of PTT in K3. I would also hope that the K3 carrys forward the 8R feature built into the K2. This keys some amps perfectly well. de Joe, aa4nn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Am I missing something or is this PTT stuff simply the same as MOX (in a Yaesu)? PTT is a jack on the K3 rear panel that performs as you describe MOX below when it is shorted to ground. Typically a footswitch is connected to the PTT jack. QSK and SEMI break-in are disabled in this mode. However, the opposite is not true. That is, PTT is still enabled when QSK and SEMI break-in are active. However, in this case, QSK or SEMI break-in will over-ride PTT and put the K3 into transmit whether or not PTT is closed. And, if PTT is released (open), transmission can still continue, or commence, whenever there is a key closure. Pressing MOX is the same as pressing the PTT and holding it there until switched off. TX light is on, RX is muted (ie Transmit Mode) and hitting the key will transmit RF - it overrides both QSK and VOX. MOX will only actually put out RF of it's own accord in AM or FM modes that involve a carrier. In QSK, both MOX and VOX are disengaged and Break-In is switched in. Now hitting the key simultaneously kicks in the PTT and transmits RF but only for the duration of the key press. I thought this is pretty standard stuff and would assume the K3 would more or less follow this protocol. But as I say maybe I've missed something subtle in the discussion in which case I'll apologise and go back to sleep. Yes, PTT-only CW is very standard. It is on every radio, perhaps named differently, that I'm aware of except the K2. All that's happening here is making sure this standard capability is included in the K3. It seems like big deal because of all the discussion and length of the reflector threads. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
I would also hope that the K3 carrys forward the 8R feature built into the K2. This keys some amps perfectly well. Amplifier keying provided via the KEY OUT jack on the K3 rear panel. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
W0YK: Thanks to you and others speaking up, it is clear that this standard feature on all radios is really being used by a number of operators. I wouldn't call it feature creep, but rather a basic feature that should be in every radio. Yes, it's been in such popular rigs as the TS-930S and FT-1000MP since their beginning. Full break-in (QSK), Semi break-in (or VOX) and PTT (or MOX). Indeed there's a place for all three and thanks to Elecraft for listening. I like the quote from Wayne I recall shortly after the K3 was introduced. ## (Paraphrased) Customer's inputs can be heard and ignored ...except around here. ## If every company tattooed this on their employees' foreheads, a lot more of them would still be in business today. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
If the sidetone in the K3 is adjusted to a value other than default(which is ?), is the offset adjusted along with it? Does one need to realign anything if the sidetone frequency is adjusted? What indication(s) does the K3 provide for zerobeat? thanks 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 cw PTT done...FB OM!
Gee whiz...go to bed early for one night and you miss all the good stuff. Okay, cw PTT is done. That's just great! I guess this is one more difference between E and TT - and clearly on the plus side for E. Well done gents; kudos, and all that. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 PTT - WHHTLOT
After the 28 posts on K3 PTT, I'm thinking we haven't heard the last of this! Wow - 45 versions and re-explanations of what the K3 PTT function is. In just CW? As a non-contestor, getting back into hamradio ham - I'm starting to think the K3 is getting perhaps too complex, for normal operation. I'm serious. Its starting to resemble a 747 dashboard. Foot switches, PTT's, Key Down, Key Up, RF Out, No RF, No Receive, Receive .. and Knife Switches! PTT CW? PTT SSB, PTT WFM? Neon tuning tube? Who's on first? I hope Elecraft has a very good Technical Writer on this one. Lots of room, for misinterpretaton and confusion remains IMHO. When even Don, got into this - I knew it was a confusing topic. Sounds like a long well-worded paragraph or 2, with some flow diagrams is in order. And especially include it in the preliminary startup description. N3CSY de Fred Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT - WHHTLOT
Not being rude, but you tried to drive an FT-2000 or worse an FT-857 where nearly everything is on menus! So far, this is looking like an easy ride, but with every comfort you could imagine. On 25/9/07 12:38, Fred (FL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Its starting to resemble a 747 dashboard. -- Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. -Ogden Nash (1902-1971) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] WHHTLOT ?
Ah, um, what is WHHTLOT? Reply directly if it is not something for public consumption ... keith.darwin (dit-dah dah) goodrich.com - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Hi Vic: You didn't mention it, but I'm assuming that this is with QSK and SEMI-QSK NOT invoked, right? Haven't loaded the latest firmware release... busy yesterday... will do so though. 73, Tom At 22:15 09/24/2007, Vic K2VCO wrote: I just loaded Wayne's latest K3 firmware, and (in addition to other neat stuff), there is a new PTT mode for CW which does this: 1) When PTT is open, hitting the key gives you sidetone but no RF. 2) When PTT is closed, you go into TX mode for as long as it's closed. Hitting the key then makes sidetone and RF. This is in addition to the regular semi- and full-QSK modes. AND, if you are in semi- or full-QSK mode, closing PTT still puts you in transmit mode. One day from clamor on reflector to beta testing! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Hi Vic: DISREGARD - Just re-read the bottom of your previous message... sorry. Tom _ I errantly wrote _ You didn't mention it, but I'm assuming that this is with QSK and SEMI-QSK NOT invoked, right? Haven't loaded the latest firmware release... busy yesterday... will do so though. 73, Tom At 22:15 09/24/2007, Vic K2VCO wrote: I just loaded Wayne's latest K3 firmware, and (in addition to other neat stuff), there is a new PTT mode for CW which does this: 1) When PTT is open, hitting the key gives you sidetone but no RF. 2) When PTT is closed, you go into TX mode for as long as it's closed. Hitting the key then makes sidetone and RF. This is in addition to the regular semi- and full-QSK modes. AND, if you are in semi- or full-QSK mode, closing PTT still puts you in transmit mode. One day from clamor on reflector to beta testing! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K-3 PTT
So, if you have an old dog slow linear, you mash the foot switch and then hit the key line with the computer and when the computer is DONE you finally release the foot switch :-) Looks like MISSION ACCOMPLISHED to me .. :-) Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 cw PTT done...FB OM!
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 07:09:40AM -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Gee whiz...go to bed early for one night and you miss all the good stuff. Okay, cw PTT is done. That's just great! I guess this is one more difference between E and TT - and clearly on the plus side for E. Well done gents; kudos, and all that. Us Beta Tester kids have been seeing this happen almost every day. Tree ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 'puter Architecture Question
I'm curious what controller/microprocessor(s) is/are used in the K3 and what languages or development tools are used to program it at Elecraft? TIA 73 Goody K3NG -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT - WHHTLOT
Fred, I believe it has been clarified now - many thanks to Vic and Ed. The problem that I saw was that different folks had a different view of what Transmit Mode meant when in CW mode. I would prefer the use of Transmit State instead to describe a state of the hardware apart from the generation of RF by the paddles (or computer, etc.). The prior discussion of what the action of a PTT closure while QSK or Semi-QSK were selected caused further drift of the terminology. In other words, everyone knew what they were thinking, but I am not sure everyone knew what everyone else meant. So I had to ask. 73, Don W3FPR Fred (FL) wrote: I hope Elecraft has a very good Technical Writer on this one. Lots of room, for misinterpretaton and confusion remains IMHO. When even Don, got into this - I knew it was a confusing topic. Sounds like a long well-worded paragraph or 2, with some flow diagrams is in order. And especially include it in the preliminary startup description. N3CSY de Fred Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Hi Don, et al: Since no one has explained the difference between 'Transmit mode' and the K3 is now transmitting since QSK has been started with a keypress - I would believe that the PTT input is redundant when in QSK or Semi-break-in modes. Actually, it' might not all that redundant, since there ARE times when, even in QSK, you might NOT want to allow the rig to return immediately to RX... WHILE SENDING... for instance when you're in the middle of a transmission and someone (not the guy you're sending to) REALLY LOAD comes on the same freq. You might not want to hear the QRM from the other station (which your guy might well not be able to hear due to prop.) until you complete whatever it is you're sending (since it'd just ass the the confusion). Just hit the foot switch (connected to PTT) and you'll mute the RX until you let up on the footswitch. Yes, a little clarification (or language lessons) seem to be appropriate here. How is 'Transmit mode' different from 'transmitting already because the key was tapped'? Does closing PTT when in QSK mode inhibit a return to receive until the PTT is released? - that is the only thing I can think of. My guess it that yes, it will inhibit auto-return to RX upon key release. It certainly seems that the generation of RF is controlled by the paddles in any case (except for the new TX inhibit condition). A few things were clarified, but confusion still reigns high in my mind. 73, Tom N0SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K-2 headphone jack
One way to eliminate the problem (I have never had it) with the front panel headphone jack in the K-2 is to use the rear panel mounted external speaker jack, which is less convenient, but more reliable...While this will energize only one side of the headset, the jack is a standard 1/8 mono phone jack, easily replaceable...One could use a monaural headset, or install a stereo jack and wire it so that both sides of the headphones work...This will not work if the front panel jack has already failed... Jerry, wa2dkg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Tree wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:43:28AM -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote: If the sidetone in the K3 is adjusted to a value other than default(which is ?), is the offset adjusted along with it? Does one need to realign anything if the sidetone frequency is adjusted? Nope - the filters come along for the ride - free of charge. Great...and the tone itself can be adjusted? I favor the lower tones. What indication(s) does the K3 provide for zerobeat? You can press the SPOT button and hear the offset tone while tuning in the station. And it changes pitch as one gets closer to zerobeat? You can enable the CWT feature - which gives an indication of the beat not with respect to zero beat. In this mode - pressing the SPOT button will enable the AUTO SPOT feature - and the radio will tune in the station automatically. That's really nice.. thanks for the info. 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Tom Hammond wrote: Actually, it' might not all that redundant, since there ARE times when, even in QSK, you might NOT want to allow the rig to return immediately to RX... WHILE SENDING... for instance when you're in the middle of a transmission and someone (not the guy you're sending to) REALLY LOUD comes on the same freq. You might not want to hear the QRM from the other station (which your guy might well not be able to hear due to prop.) until you complete whatever it is you're sending... Just hit the foot switch (connected to PTT) and you'll mute the RX until you let up on the footswitch. The scenario you articulate here is EXACTLY why many CW contesters prefer PTT on CW. Listening to all the QRM while you're transmitting, and having to focus on your own sending while doing so, gets exhausting after a while, and when you get mentally exhausted, errors ensue. This is the way virtually all IKenSu transceivers work today. In other words, PTT has priority. It's as simple as that. Pressing PTT puts the rig into TX state, muting the RX, until it is released. Doesn't matter if you're doing QSK or semi-QSK. Hitting the foot switch overrides that functionality instantly for as long as it's held down (but no longer). I don't think this is quite what the Elecraft implementation does, as it sounds like you have to actually be in PTT mode by manual operator setting in order for PTT to put the rig into the CW TX state. This is probably fine, as most ops will either prefer to use PTT CW or one of the other modes, and won't feel the need to be able to override in QSK or semi-QSK modes. But the override method is how most rigs work today, at least the ones I've used. Bill W5WVO Yes, a little clarification (or language lessons) seem to be appropriate here. How is 'Transmit mode' different from 'transmitting already because the key was tapped'? Does closing PTT when in QSK mode inhibit a return to receive until the PTT is released? - that is the only thing I can think of. My guess it that yes, it will inhibit auto-return to RX upon key release. It certainly seems that the generation of RF is controlled by the paddles in any case (except for the new TX inhibit condition). A few things were clarified, but confusion still reigns high in my mind. 73, Tom N0SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Bill W5WVO wrote: Tom Hammond wrote: Just hit the foot switch (connected to PTT) and you'll mute the RX until you let up on the footswitch. Would the same apply to SSB or AM operation for the monologists in the crowd? 73 - l3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
Thom LaCosta wrote: If the sidetone in the K3 is adjusted to a value other than default(which is ?), is the offset adjusted along with it? Does one need to realign anything if the sidetone frequency is adjusted? Unlike the K2, the sidetone pitch and filter center frequency are adjusted together, with one knob. There's nothing to realign. What indication(s) does the K3 provide for zerobeat? You can press SPOT and hear the sidetone as in the K2, you can use the manual CW tuning feature in which you center a little dot on the display, or you can use the automatic CW tuning feature in which you press SPOT and it tunes the signal in for you! The CW tuning indicator also works for RTTY and PSK -- I don't know if the automatic tuning does, and I'm not near my radio to try it; but someone else will chime in. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT -- done!
Bill W5WVO wrote: Tom Hammond wrote: Actually, it' might not all that redundant, since there ARE times when, even in QSK, you might NOT want to allow the rig to return immediately to RX... WHILE SENDING... for instance when you're in the middle of a transmission and someone (not the guy you're sending to) REALLY LOUD comes on the same freq. You might not want to hear the QRM from the other station (which your guy might well not be able to hear due to prop.) until you complete whatever it is you're sending... Just hit the foot switch (connected to PTT) and you'll mute the RX until you let up on the footswitch. The scenario you articulate here is EXACTLY why many CW contesters prefer PTT on CW. That is one reason . The other is when a slower station responds to a CQ or QRZ the considerate op (even in a 100++ rate situation) will slow down to their speed (at least I do) and PTT will keep the amp relay from dropping between words or characters. 73HankK8DD -- --- If God intended you to be on single sideband, he would have given you only one nostril. - Steve, K2PTS (SK) --- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT - WHHTLOT
Fred (FL) wrote: After the 28 posts on K3 PTT, I'm thinking we haven't heard the last of this! Wow - 45 versions and re-explanations of what the K3 PTT function is. In just CW? As a non-contestor, getting back into hamradio ham - I'm starting to think the K3 is getting perhaps too complex, for normal operation. I'm serious. Its starting to resemble a 747 dashboard. It's really very simple. Here's what I wrote to someone else: It's my fault for saying Transmit mode when I should have said Transmit state. In transmit state the rx is muted (except for sidetone), the transmitter is 'armed', the antenna is switched to the transmitter, and an external amp or antenna relay is activated. There is also a receive state, of course. CW and SSB (etc.) are 'modes'. The following are 'submodes' for CW: PTT, QSK, and semi QSK. Then it's simple: the PTT switch puts the rig into transmit state. QSK and semi-QSK are ways to *automatically* enter and exit transmit state when you send CW. But in PTT submode, the automatic switching to transmit state with keying is disabled. In PTT submode, you switch states *manually*. What seems to have confused everyone is that with the K3, if you are in the QSK or semi-QSK submode, the PTT switch is 'live' even though it is not needed. It will put you in transmit state if you close it. It is in a sense in parallel with the automatic switching that is initiated with the key. This is not really important for the original issue, which is that some VHF (and other) operators wanted a PTT submode which did not originally exist, in which the *ONLY* way to enter transmit state is to use the PTT switch. Now they have it. I hope this is the final, definitive, solution to the confusion which I created. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: MorseGen
I agree!! This is a fantastic program for CW Practice! Timothy KG6RII ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:47:31AM -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Tree wrote: Great...and the tone itself can be adjusted? I favor the lower tones. Yes - I am running mine at 500. Think it goes down to 350. What indication(s) does the K3 provide for zerobeat? You can press the SPOT button and hear the offset tone while tuning in the station. And it changes pitch as one gets closer to zerobeat? No - you just hear the desired offset tone and you tune in the station to match it. Tree ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KPA100 smelling....
Hi, I?ve been using my KPA100 for a while and suddenly had a strange smell in my nose - like something being very hot from too many amperes. I opened the unit, could not find anything burnt or molten but found resistors R38/R39 in the final stage hot. I still could touch them without burning my fingers but they were the hottest components I could identify. Has anybody an idea, how hot these R?s may go or whether they may heat up at all? 73 Karsten DK4AS K2 #4764 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
But when you use the Auto-Spot function you do hear the tone as it tunes. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Sep 25 12:56 , Tree sent: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:47:31AM -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Tree wrote: Great...and the tone itself can be adjusted? I favor the lower tones. Yes - I am running mine at 500. Think it goes down to 350. What indication(s) does the K3 provide for zerobeat? You can press the SPOT button and hear the offset tone while tuning in the station. And it changes pitch as one gets closer to zerobeat? No - you just hear the desired offset tone and you tune in the station to match it. Tree ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Query
Kevin Rock wrote: Last night, during the 40 meter net, I heard a DG hail sign. Then I copied K?DGW. I asked, Is that you Fred? and got a reply in the affirmative. Today I received an email from K6DGW disabusing me of the notion of his 40 meter QNI. So, I have a conundrum: there is another person out there with a K?DGW call whose name is Fred. If that is you could you please write me an email to tell me your information? Such as what is the number in your call? There were crashes of QRN during the contact but when I got a confirmation on the name of Fred I simply put K6DGW in the log. Last time I checked, the only other of us is K4DGW. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
Tree wrote: In this mode - pressing the SPOT button will enable the AUTO SPOT feature - and the radio will tune in the station automatically. Tell me you're kidding, Tree! Does the tuning knob move while it's doing this? :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Variable-Bandwidth Crystal Filters
When will we begin to see more information on these? Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Query
I was not able to check in on Sunday evening. The 3, 5, 8, and 0 do not appear to be in use. David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 #5982 FP#-1751 Fred Jensen wrote: Kevin Rock wrote: Last night, during the 40 meter net, I heard a DG hail sign. Then I copied K?DGW. I asked, Is that you Fred? and got a reply in the affirmative. Today I received an email from K6DGW disabusing me of the notion of his 40 meter QNI. So, I have a conundrum: there is another person out there with a K?DGW call whose name is Fred. If that is you could you please write me an email to tell me your information? Such as what is the number in your call? There were crashes of QRN during the contact but when I got a confirmation on the name of Fred I simply put K6DGW in the log. Last time I checked, the only other of us is K4DGW. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/100 or K3/10
Keith: Not having a K3 in hand, I am just making a best guess, but I would say, based on your self-description as a cw ragchewer, casual DXer, and contester-light, I'd say go for the K2/100. This recommendation takes into account that you want 100 watts. But if you're happy with the K3/10 power level, then you'd be just as happy with the K2/10 power level and then for your style of operation, it should be a no-brainer (get the K2, if cost is a factor). I have a K2 (qrp only) and it is a GREAT cw rig. It is not the BEST rig, but waaay better than the vast majority. For cw ragchewing, I don't think you NEED the neat stuff on the K3, which appeals especially (but not exclusively) to low band DXers and HF contesters. At around $600 for the base K2, it is VERY hard to go wrong and probably completely impossible to have better bang for the buck. IMO + YMMV. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:25:31AM -0700, Fred Jensen wrote: Tree wrote: In this mode - pressing the SPOT button will enable the AUTO SPOT feature - and the radio will tune in the station automatically. Tell me you're kidding, Tree! Does the tuning knob move while it's doing this? :-) Not for FCS. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
Tree wrote: In this mode - pressing the SPOT button will enable the AUTO SPOT feature - and the radio will tune in the station automatically. Tell me you're kidding, Tree! Does the tuning knob move while it's doing this? :-) Welcome to the world of software-defined radios. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] PTT
I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all these words to adequately describe it :-) The only complexity in PTT that I've ever known about is that it should stand for push, then talk since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the mic button. I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really mastered the concept of point, then click either. I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it is that some folks wanted. Gives whole new meaning to Responsive. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] PTT
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:43:33AM -0700, Fred Jensen wrote: I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all these words to adequately describe it :-) The only complexity in PTT that I've ever known about is that it should stand for push, then talk since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the mic button. I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really mastered the concept of point, then click either. Most anything simple can be over complicated by really analyzing it. This PTT issue is a case where the amount of detail we discuss everyday on the secret beta test list showed up on the general reflector. This stuff gets much easier when it is done right and when you come up with a new operating scenario you hadn't thought about before and think: gee - maybe if I hook up my foot switch it will do what I need and voila - it does - then you realize it was all worth it. It will do that if every possible scenario had been thought about when the solution was developed. So - I hope that everyone understands it really isn't that complicated. The way you expect the radio to work is how it will work. The problem comes when you have many different people expecting slightly different things. We just had to tell Wayne a white lie - that VOX really meant Vibroplex Operated Xmitr. I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it is that some folks wanted. Gives whole new meaning to Responsive. This is simply half the reason I am so excited about this radio. The other half is the wonderful hardware that the new features is being implemented on. Not only is Elecraft the most responsive radio vendor - it also has the best platform to support. Tree N6TR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 or K3/10?
Keith My favourite rig since 2001 is my ten Watt K2. There's plenty of DX to be worked on 10 Watts of CW, even with my simple wire antennas I've worked dozens of countries out as far as ZL. SSB would be another issue, ten Watts of SSB is hard work compared to ten Watts of CW. Given the improved design of the K3, I would opt for a K3/10 and then upgrade it by adding the QRO PA when you can manage it. If you went the K2/100 route you would always wish you had a K3. Dave, G4AON K1 #1154, K2/10 #1892 and hopefully K3 #200 soon. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2/100 or K3/10?
Hey Keith, I'm a new ham, so take this for what its worth. I have K2/100 #5099 and it is my first transceiver. I did the split of the KPA100 into the EC2 with the KAT100. This summer I operated almost exclusively outside in my yard with my basic K2 and a small wire doublet up in a tree. I ran 5 watts all summer long and made some really nice contacts and several lengthy rag chews (sometimes condx kept the QSO's short). Most of the time I received Wow as a reply to my power report of 5 watts. My furthest contact was with W7DAX out in Liberty, Utah (I'm near Detroit) with many in the 500 - 700 mile range on mostly 40m during the afternoons. Although I have my K3 in the second order group, my guess is that for casual CW rag chewing and contesting the K2 would suffice (I only say this because I have no experience with other radios). But I am really looking forward to using some of the really nice features (not to mention the better Rx specs) of the K3 I saw demonstrated in Dayton and thoroughly discussed here. If I could only have the basic K3, based on this summer's activity, I would have no problem running it QRP for more than a year. So if QRP might not be your bag, then the K2/100 seems like the best bang for your buck. But if you can deal with QRP for a year, then the K3 looks pretty nice. If solar condx improve starting this year... Obviously, if price is an issue, the K2 fits the bill. I'm sure, as you know, being a previous K2 owner you can't go wrong either way. 73, Dave W8FGU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] PTT
Fred, you said it all! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Fred Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had absolutely no idea that PTT was this complex and required all these words to adequately describe it :-) The only complexity in PTT that I've ever known about is that it should stand for push, then talk since it's fairly common for new hams to start talking and then push the mic button. I had a colleague at work [retired AF Col] who never really mastered the concept of point, then click either. I am astounded at the speed with which The Big E implemented whatever it is that some folks wanted. Gives whole new meaning to Responsive. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when you use the Auto-Spot function you do hear the tone as it tunes. Ah...a throw-back sound to first having a vfo...probably spent more time zerobeating the guy than sending his call. If autospot is on, does the K3 follow a drifting signal...or is it a one-shot kind of operation that would have to be initiated again? thanks 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2/100 or K3/10?
Another way to look at it is that 10 watts is 10 dB (about 1.5 S-units) below 100 watts. That's enough to make a difference, but not a huge difference in who you can work and when, especially on CW. SSB is perhaps a little more of a challenge, but that might be because I'm a CW op too and only get on SSB on rare occasions. Were I faced with that choice, I'd go for the 10 watt rig with more potential for expansion and performance than the 100 watt rig. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- So, assuming it is one or the other, which do you think would be a better choice for a CW operator who is mostly an east-coast rag chewer with occasional DX chasing and light duty contesting? I'm leaning toward the K3/10 since it can eventually be upgraded to 100 watts, but I wonder if 10 watts (3 dB more than QRP) is enough to keep me happy for a year or so. - Keith N1AS - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2
Hi all, I know that some of you have sold (or are planning to sell) your K2 in favor of the new K3, but I was wondering if you have sold other radios in favor of a K2 in the past. I have an IC-735 (1980s 100w HF radio), a FT-817 (QRP HF radio), and a few VHF/UHF rigs. I want to pick up a K2, but I'm not sure if I will be really missing out on something if I get rid of my other rigs. Do any of you have thoughts on the subject? Thanks in advance for all your input! -john W4PAH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 or K3/10
I would get the K3 for the same reason that Dave gave. If you get the K2 it won't be long before you are wondering about the K3 and you'll probably end up with both. If you get the K3 you can save some money. When everyone starts getting their K3's, you'll be reading about them and that will make it worse. I'm sure we will see comparisons between the K2 and K3. If it's a matter of money, I would get the best that you can afford. If that means waiting a while, then do it. I think that most of us have learned that with any hobby or interest, it pays buy the best you can. This is just my experience and opinion. Gary, N7HTS On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:35:19 -0400 DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: Not having a K3 in hand, I am just making a best guess, but I would say, based on your self-description as a cw ragchewer, casual DXer, and contester-light, I'd say go for the K2/100. This recommendation takes into account that you want 100 watts. But if you're happy with the K3/10 power level, then you'd be just as happy with the K2/10 power level and then for your style of operation, it should be a no-brainer (get the K2, if cost is a factor). I have a K2 (qrp only) and it is a GREAT cw rig. It is not the BEST rig, but waaay better than the vast majority. For cw ragchewing, I don't think you NEED the neat stuff on the K3, which appeals especially (but not exclusively) to low band DXers and HF contesters. At around $600 for the base K2, it is VERY hard to go wrong and probably completely impossible to have better bang for the buck. IMO + YMMV. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:11:13PM -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when you use the Auto-Spot function you do hear the tone as it tunes. Ah...a throw-back sound to first having a vfo...probably spent more time zerobeating the guy than sending his call. If autospot is on, does the K3 follow a drifting signal...or is it a one-shot kind of operation that would have to be initiated again? one-shot ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
Hi All Can I assume that the Auto Spot function will lock onto the received signal if ONLY one signal is audible in the receiver pass band. Or will it lock on to the closest signal to the side tone you have previousy set Thanks Rowland G4APO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
When you have the CWT tuning indicator on you should be able to see the signal on the display and be somewhat close. Then it will tune to that signal when you tap the SPOT button. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Sep 25 16:45 , Rowland sent: Hi All Can I assume that the Auto Spot function will lock onto the received signal if ONLY one signal is audible in the receiver pass band. Or will it lock on to the closest signal to the side tone you have previousy set Thanks Rowland G4APO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
OMG, please do NOT implement this autotracking feature. It's bad enough that one signal will drift across the band, now you want the K3 to intelligently drift also? ARGH! This is one idea that makes ZERO sense. :-( de Doug KR2Q PS. And please don't build in the option to add a chirp to the signal either. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: OMG, please do NOT implement this autotracking feature. It's bad enough that one signal will drift across the band, now you want the K3 to intelligently drift also? ARGH! This is one idea that makes ZERO sense. Nobody having anything to do with Elecraft suggested this. Maybe it was a joke? Adding chirp, on the other hand, sounds interesting. A little buzz, too, so you can sound like a Russian station of the 1950's. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
At 04:08 PM 25/09/07, you wrote: PS. And please don't build in the option to add a chirp to the signal either. Hey, you hit on a good idea there. Now days everybody sounds the same, clean pure signals, and electronic keyers. In the Good ole days, so they say, you could tell who people were by the sound of their signal and their fist, before they gave their call. Just think of it, if you could add varying degrees of chirp, hum, raspy tone, etc. with software on the K3, you could make amateur radio just like the Good ole days. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2
John Shadle wrote: Hi all, I know that some of you have sold (or are planning to sell) your K2 in favor of the new K3, but I was wondering if you have sold other radios in favor of a K2 in the past. I have not. I have an IC-735 (1980s 100w HF radio), a FT-817 (QRP HF radio), and a few VHF/UHF rigs. I want to pick up a K2, but I'm not sure if I will be really missing out on something if I get rid of my other rigs. Do any of you have thoughts on the subject? Hi John [and the rest of the list] FWIW: I have a TS-850 for HF and an FT-847 I use mainly on VHF/UHF and as a general coverage radio, and I used to use it in RTTY contests. I started with Elecraft building a K2 [and a little later a KX1 to take with us on a Panama Canal cruise in 2005]. I later purchased a KAT100 and KPA100 from another ham. I use my K2 a lot, often in the field with the QRP top. The K2 RX runs circles around the 850, especially when KF6T and WX6V are running HP in a contest ... they're less than 2 miles from me. However, I didn't want my K2 tied closely into the station because I like to grab it and the Buddipole and head for a nearby campground or park during the good weather. And, other than the IMD from my two contesting buddies, I like the 850, it has a countable number of knobs and buttons [and zero menu items], and I've learned to use maybe half of them pretty well. I finally moved my RTTY contesting to the K2 because of the filters -- the 847 has no choices and you can't shut off the AGC, so a strong adjacent signal made the weak new mult I was trying to work just disappear. I just ordered a K3. When I get it, I will sell the TS-850. For me, my K2 is more of a special radio than a shack radio. The K3 will become my main shack radio [not that it won't be special too :-) ] I didn't get the gen coverage option since I have the 847. I would guess that a K2 would pretty much duplicate your FT-817 except I think the K2 RX would edge out the Yaesu. With the KPA100, it *could* replace the IC-735 as a shack radio if you're not into grab and go field operations. I've seen the K3 twice, and lifted it once. It could be a field radio, however I think the power drain would make that difficult without a generator. It would make a truly slick HF mobile. I get all the hamming in the field I can handle in a day on a 12 Ah SLA with my K2 @ 5W. YMMV 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: OMG, please do NOT implement this autotracking feature. It's bad enough that one signal will drift across the band, now you want the K3 to intelligently drift also? ARGH! This is one idea that makes ZERO sense. It was a question about the functionnot a suggestion. 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Vic K2VCO wrote: Nobody having anything to do with Elecraft suggested this. Maybe it was a joke? It was a question, not a suggestion. Adding chirp, on the other hand, sounds interesting. A little buzz, too, so you can sound like a Russian station of the 1950's. Is this a suggestion? I'd love to see a swing optionand as far as other options, there's am interesting collection of retro-options at http://zerobeat.net/qrp/qrpretro.html 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, John wrote: At 04:08 PM 25/09/07, you wrote: PS. And please don't build in the option to add a chirp to the signal either. Hey, you hit on a good idea there. Now days everybody sounds the same, clean pure signals, and electronic keyers. In the Good ole days, so they say, you could tell who people were by the sound of their signal and their fist, before they gave their call. Just think of it, if you could add varying degrees of chirp, hum, raspy tone, etc. with software on the K3, you could make amateur radio just like the Good ole days. Just think of it..,some folks might actually send cw without keyers or computersbut that would be painful, it might require more hand-eye coordination and some sense of spacing, etc. As far as chirp, hum, etc.wasn't there a series of posts about how the K3 sounds, compared to the K2 and other rigs? Geez, maybe Aptos best stamp out a distictive K3 sound(g). 73 - thom Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2
I purchased my K2 (S/N 5665) solely on the word of a fellow DX'peditioner and contester KE7X. Some of you will recognize the name of the group Fred belongs to ... Team Vertical. They use only K2/00's. Before retirement limited my spending, I was a member of this group. My shack ... all at the same time ... housed an FT-1000D, an FT-990 and an IC-756 Pro II. All are fine radios, but since building my K2 and using it for a year I'm prepared to say it's every bit as good as any of the three and they've all been sold. Yes, part of the reason for selling them is to finance my K3, but they've not been missed and I have no regrets. If I had wanted to keep one of them, it would have been the FT-1000D. An FL-7000 solid state PA went out the door too, along with three KW and two 275 W Matchboxes. I've been licensed and continously active on CW since 1951 and it's been a very long time since I've had as much fun with the hobby. Look for me on 7036 most evenings. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
Oh boy, this thread brings back memories of the keying filter many of us built to give our rigs a distinctive sound. My T-4XB sounded pretty good, too! (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-Zerobeat and sidetone
At 15:11 09/25/2007, Thom LaCosta wrote: If autospot is on, does the K3 follow a drifting signal...or is it a one-shot kind of operation that would have to be initiated again? Nope... that's your job. Once you push [SPOT], and the K3 has initially zeroed the received signal, if HE moves, you must press [SPOT] again to readjust to his new freq. 73, Tom N0SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
And let us not forget the banana boat swing. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: OMG, please do NOT implement this autotracking feature. It's bad enough that one signal will drift across the band, now you want the K3 to intelligently drift also? ARGH! This is one idea that makes ZERO sense. Nobody having anything to do with Elecraft suggested this. Maybe it was a joke? Adding chirp, on the other hand, sounds interesting. A little buzz, too, so you can sound like a Russian station of the 1950's. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sounds like you're asking about an AFC
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And let us not forget the banana boat swing. I've asked for a swing option several times..if one can get banana boat, there should also be a Lake Erie one. I'll leave it to some other OT to mention more. 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Info 080 and KPA100
Greetings folks, If I may interrupt the K3 threads for just a moment... My K2 SN 4912 developed a fault sometime between last evening and this evening! Upon jumping to the shack to have a few relaxing QSO's before bed I was greeted by an INFO 080. I figured I'd start by checking pins of RFU1 as in the manual and pulled the KPA. I fired it up without the KPA, and, problem disappears. Casual inspection of the KPA shows no fault, searching the list turns up no clues, and finally the KPA manual refers INFO 080 back to the K2 manual. If I had to guess, I'd say auxbus short. With only the KPA connected (nothing external to the AUX RS232) fault remains. Where should I start digging in the KPA? 73, Joe, KC0VKN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2
I did not sell anything to get my K2, but sold the 756 pro after I got the K2, since the performance was so much better on the K2. I did not sell the K2 to get the K3, but sold it because I ran into a bunch of car bills, and the K3 will get here whenever. I would not hesitate to sell almost any old rig to get a K2 if you are into CW. The receiver of the K2 is better than all but a very few radios like the Orion. There is no comparison to old rigs like the IC735 or TS440, although I thought the 735 was a neat little rig. Now some might like the big knobs, nice displays, multi mode and more features then the K2 has, but those radios likely don't work as well as the K2. Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Shadle Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2 Hi all, I know that some of you have sold (or are planning to sell) your K2 in favor of the new K3, but I was wondering if you have sold other radios in favor of a K2 in the past. I have an IC-735 (1980s 100w HF radio), a FT-817 (QRP HF radio), and a few VHF/UHF rigs. I want to pick up a K2, but I'm not sure if I will be really missing out on something if I get rid of my other rigs. Do any of you have thoughts on the subject? Thanks in advance for all your input! -john W4PAH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] selling other radios in favor of a K2
The only reason I keep my TS 850 SAT is because no one will give me all that much for it. For the few bucks return I can leave it on the bench and look at it. What can you say, after the Elecraft gear came out it made all the others less valuable. Wish I could get half what I paid for it. Werner N8BB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 list?
Hello all, I just put in an order for a K3. I currently have two FT-2000's which I happen to like very much. I am very anxious to see how the K3 stacks up. I guess I will be in group 3. Is there a separate reflector for the K3? Thanks in advance. Mike W0MU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Wideband FM?
I don't understand fully the mode wideband FM? At one point, there was a 2 meter repeater in northern Baltimore County, which had a link to 10 meters - back in the 90's. I think the 10 meter portion (link), operated in Wideband FM mode? I may have this mixed up - but I've always hoped someone would explain when/where WIDEBAND FM is used in ham bands? And, does the K3 support any of this in its FM mode? Fred de N3CSY Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
