Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
One area where the K3 is also looking good is the transmitted noise level, ARRL members may wish to look at the on-line reviews and check the close in spectrum analyser plots of the K3 vs the rest when keying on CW. A near neighbour appears to be +/- 50 KHz wide on 80m with rubbish from his transmitter, now if he was 15 dB cleaner by running a K3 instead of his "top of the range" rig (it's not Icom by the way) some of us would be a bit happier. Maybe that's why multi-rig contest stations are migrating to the K3? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 -- Hello Gentleman, I fully understand that Sherwood list is of high regard among many hams. Regrettably, I really do not experience what should be expected after studying Sherwood list. In particular, I am referring ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 Vs K3. All these 3 icom rigs are now in my stack and ready to do A/B comparison with K3 at any time. I do not see any day and night difference among them even in the recent IARU contest. Bearing in mind, Hong Kong is small and 1Kw big guns are everywhere (even within line of sight) under contest condition. On the other hand, there are distinct characterists between K3 and Icom rigs. Personal preference and operation easiness would play in these areas. I am pleased to see that Elecraft keeps on improving the firmware which should bring more operation easiness and smoother learning curve. I would expect further improvement in the Noise Reduction function of K3. If you feel this email offensive, please press your "delete" button. 73 Johnny VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M Question
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:35:15 -0400, S Sacco wrote: >Elliot - > >I am running a K3 / 87A combination, and the 87A is off 99% of the time. >Everything works fine. Is there a reason you would expect otherwise? I >have the feeling I'm missing something here... > [snip] Just don't try to use it on 6M. When it is Off or on STDBY it is bypassed. Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K1 NB Improvements
I remember seeing some improvements for the K1 NB a while back and was interested in trying to improve mine a bit as its not quite enough to kill the noise near the house here. My TS-450 gets it in a heartbeat as does my K3 but the K1 leaves a lot of it still there... Anyone remember where this was? ~BTH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Re： Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sher wood List
Hello Guy, Your comments are welcome and appreciated (I am now in an Elecraft mail reflector and I am a K2, K3 owner). First of all, I am lucky that I live in another part of the world with no GST, VAT and any import tax. Therefore, the prices for all your quoted icom rigs are 20-35% cheaper in Hong Kong. (Hello Readers: please don't ask me to buy one for you from Hong Kong because I am not a radio dealer) Ham radio is such a fantastic hobby that there are many areas one can concentrate. Since I am not a radio man by profession, my main interest (since I know little and hence want to learn more) to examine the architecture and performance of different radios under contest condition (or survivial among local big guns). Again, fortunately, my financial power enable me to do so. I just have the luck to do what I like in that particular ham radio area. Therefore, buying those icom rigs (in fact, I owned a FTDX9000 two years ago) are for my own study and not for arguing with K3 owners, hihi Why should I argue? I am a K3 owner and like everyone here. Secondly, I mostly operate in SSB and always openly admit that I seldom operate CW. Having said that, I understand the joy of operating a SSB station just 3kHz away from a local 1kw big gun within line of sight. Again, I do not see a day and night difference among ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 and K3. Thirdly, I have no doubt about the credibility of Sherwood's figure. In fact, in the past, he expressed his favourable comments about IC781 Vs IC7800. I sent him my own product review report between IC7800 Vs IC781 which shown an entirely different conclusion with his. Interestingly, we agreed to disagree. We knew the stand points of each other quite well. If any of you would like to see my report, please contact me off the list. Fourthly, I had used the entire IC756 family (i.e. IC756 original to latest IC7600). I fully understand how this family has been evolving. Similarly, I notice improvements of K2 and K3 throughout the years. My first K2 is #1146. My K3 is the first batch when I paid half the price as deposit and waited for a couple of months to get my K3. Finally, I like building kits and I am a kit builder. I always express my interest to Elecraft that I am awaiting their KPA800 or KPA1600. I like my own ICPW-1 but I more look forward to a linear amp kit which I can service it myself. I trust I have already occupied enough band width in this mail reflector. If any reader want to discuss further, please contact me off the list. Of course, I know I am standing in front of a group of Elecrafter (come on, I am an Elecrafter too) but my view points are just some deviations from the norm. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ Guy Olinger K2AV 收件人 Johnny Siu 副本(CC) Mike Harris ; Don Rasmussen ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2009 年 9月 6 日 星期日 上午 10:24:21 主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List Try most recent firmware for some new NR on the K3. In general are you talking about CW or SSB or both? If SSB, I find that the controlling aspect of close signals is transmitted splatter, which no receiver can do anything to improve. Some really poor front ends make that worse. Will your Icom's nullify key clicks from adjacent clicky signals? IC7600 $4000 US IC7700 $8484 US IC7800 $10600 US Total $23,084 US Lot of money just to argue with K3 owners on the Elecraft reflector. Interesting that you don't see any difference between the 7800 performance and a K3. As in math, there is no advantage to placement for two things on either side of an equals sign. As to the "heard" performance with the better RX lab numbers, I'd have to say that I only hear a differential in really bad CW situations in contests. It's also abundantly clear that "heard" performance varies widely between individuals and I don't think anyone is telling deliberate lies. That is to say that if you say they sound the same to you, then they sound the same to you. Neither do I think Sherwood is telling any lies. I don't think he has a dog anywhere in that fight. I note that Icom says outright that the 7600 is the replacement for the Pro III and "improved the in-band IMD (Inter Modulation Distortion) significantly over the IC-756PRO3." For a disadvantage they swore for years the Pro line didn't have, that's an interesting admission. Wonder what brought that on... Maybe the 7600 is a really good rig for the dough, maybe they left some things out. Time will tell. The other thing about a 7600, can you get it in a kit? 73, Guy. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Gentleman, > > I fully understand that Sherwood list is of high regard among many hams. > > Regrettably, I really do not experience what should be expected after > studying Sherwood list. In particular, I am referring ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 > Vs K3. All these 3 icom rigs are now in my stack and ready to
[Elecraft] K3 vs 7600 and family
I cannot imagine my returning to the YaeKenCom fold now. OK, we all agree they make a "Good" product in general and supply varying levels of support etc etc BUTdo they make a direct competitor to the K3?...me thinks not, the K3 is NOT a "Bottom Line Destroying" product and given these three dominant manufacturers track record they may have decided to continue along their merry way. BUT what if they saw there equipment ignored by the contesters and DXpeditions?...that might cause them to rethink their marketing strategy. As new models are released we all tend to rush out and make comparisons and spend our hard earned dollars only to find out after awhile that the perfect radio is just a few mods and updates awaymaybe. Whilst I like the K3 and it does most (not all) things I would like, I don't see it as perfect by any means, BUT, it does MORE things and does them BETTER than any other radio I have owned. But for me the K3 has a way to go before I would give it a "Worlds Best" radio...but with my personal rating of 4.25 stars out of 5 it does not have far to go for me. I sold off about $25,000 AUD worth of JA radios and run the K3 only. For a mobile I may get a TS-480HX and take my toys with me when I enter the DX cloud for good:-) Till then I will keep hoping the K3 will get the features promised working and complete without turning it into a difficult to use, menu driven, button tapping paper weight. Must be beer thirtysomewhere 73's Gary VK4WT/P Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need +12V on TX
> This will have to do until I get around > to my vacuum relay QSK/electronic bias switch mod for the L4. That's really where you want to be. But the old rig will still fry it unless you build two keying circuit inputs. > What a difference 10 dB makes. Life is too short for QRP. Fighting words for some on this reflector :>) 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood Lis t
Try most recent firmware for some new NR on the K3. In general are you talking about CW or SSB or both? If SSB, I find that the controlling aspect of close signals is transmitted splatter, which no receiver can do anything to improve. Some really poor front ends make that worse. Will your Icom's nullify key clicks from adjacent clicky signals? IC7600 $4000 US IC7700 $8484 US IC7800 $10600 US Total $23,084 US Lot of money just to argue with K3 owners on the Elecraft reflector. Interesting that you don't see any difference between the 7800 performance and a K3. As in math, there is no advantage to placement for two things on either side of an equals sign. As to the "heard" performance with the better RX lab numbers, I'd have to say that I only hear a differential in really bad CW situations in contests. It's also abundantly clear that "heard" performance varies widely between individuals and I don't think anyone is telling deliberate lies. That is to say that if you say they sound the same to you, then they sound the same to you. Neither do I think Sherwood is telling any lies. I don't think he has a dog anywhere in that fight. I note that Icom says outright that the 7600 is the replacement for the Pro III and "improved the in-band IMD (Inter Modulation Distortion) significantly over the IC-756PRO3." For a disadvantage they swore for years the Pro line didn't have, that's an interesting admission. Wonder what brought that on... Maybe the 7600 is a really good rig for the dough, maybe they left some things out. Time will tell. The other thing about a 7600, can you get it in a kit? 73, Guy. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Gentleman, > > I fully understand that Sherwood list is of high regard among many hams. > > Regrettably, I really do not experience what should be expected after > studying Sherwood list. In particular, I am referring ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 > Vs K3. All these 3 icom rigs are now in my stack and ready to do A/B > comparison with K3 at any time. I do not see any day and night difference > among them even in the recent IARU contest. Bearing in mind, Hong Kong is > small and 1Kw big guns are everywhere (even within line of sight) under > contest condition. > > On the other hand, there are distinct characterists between K3 and Icom rigs. > Personal preference and operation easiness would play in these areas. > > I am pleased to see that Elecraft keeps on improving the firmware which > should bring more operation easiness and smoother learning curve. I would > expect further improvement in the Noise Reduction function of K3. > > If you feel this email offensive, please press your "delete" button. > > 73 > > Johnny VR2XMC > > K3 + K2 s > > > > > > 寄件人﹕ Mike Harris > 收件人 Don Rasmussen ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > 傳送日期﹕ 2009 年 9月 6 日 星期日 上午 2:06:21 > 主題： Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List > > G'day Don, > >> I tell anyone that will listen, the flexibility of a DSP radio >> means little without the rich full natural sound of a good analog >> radio. Elecraft has done this (IMO). They have made the hobby >> technically better without the artifactual warts. >> > > There are many who would disagree with this. Whatever happened to > the "pink noise" response experiment or the LPF that was being > tested a few months ago. I will agree that Elecraft have pushed the > RF boundary but to date audio hasn't been their thing and here I'm > not talking audiophile rubbish just good sound. Unfortunately that > is the interface with the human operator. > > I find myself drawn more and more back to the K2 and if I was closer > to the action I might even consider parting with the K3. However, > gear that comes to out of the way locations tends to die there and > one can always live in hope. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > > > Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多! > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need +12V on TX
I modified the L4 because I didn't want to fry my TS-870 keying circuit. I know how the unmodified L4 works, BTW. I have already kludged a circuit in-line using a PNP transistor and a few resistors, picking up the +12V out of the K3 and the Key Out line and providing the necessary keyed 12V. This will have to do until I get around to my vacuum relay QSK/electronic bias switch mod for the L4. What a difference 10 dB makes. Life is too short for QRP. Wes N7WS --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: From: Guy Olinger K2AV Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need +12V on TX To: "Wes Stewart" Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 7:35 PM It is getting quite rare for the transceiver to SUPPLY 12 volts to key an amp. All the currently manufactured amps require a GROUND to key an amp, the AMP supplies a voltage to be keyed, INCLUDING an unmodified L4B using the "VOX" lead, which is the equivalent of the more familiar "relay" lead on Ameritron and others. >From the schematic, the L4B would have expected a ground on the non-ground VOX lead to key the amp. Since from the schematic, this would have been a positive DC voltage less than 200 volts, the K3 should have keyed it fine as is. There is a caution about reversing the plug in the manual, which was not keyed in any particular way, and COULD have put a permanent key to the amp if reversed and the transceiver end was grounded in operation. Drake was expecting a relay in which the orientation would not matter. Why did you modify it? 73, Guy. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > I added a solid-state relay driver in my old Drake L4-B that requires +12V > (or so) from the transceiver on transmit. My trusty TS-870 supplies this > signal. > > I'm getting tired of running QRP with the K3 and would like to be able to use > the amp with my K3 without further fuss. Is there a magic way to get this > signal from the K3 or am I going to be forced to mod the amp again, kluge > another circuit in-line, or forget the idea and stick with the '870? > > Wes N7WS > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need +12V on TX
It is getting quite rare for the transceiver to SUPPLY 12 volts to key an amp. All the currently manufactured amps require a GROUND to key an amp, the AMP supplies a voltage to be keyed, INCLUDING an unmodified L4B using the "VOX" lead, which is the equivalent of the more familiar "relay" lead on Ameritron and others. >From the schematic, the L4B would have expected a ground on the non-ground VOX lead to key the amp. Since from the schematic, this would have been a positive DC voltage less than 200 volts, the K3 should have keyed it fine as is. There is a caution about reversing the plug in the manual, which was not keyed in any particular way, and COULD have put a permanent key to the amp if reversed and the transceiver end was grounded in operation. Drake was expecting a relay in which the orientation would not matter. Why did you modify it? 73, Guy. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > I added a solid-state relay driver in my old Drake L4-B that requires +12V > (or so) from the transceiver on transmit. My trusty TS-870 supplies this > signal. > > I'm getting tired of running QRP with the K3 and would like to be able to use > the amp with my K3 without further fuss. Is there a magic way to get this > signal from the K3 or am I going to be forced to mod the amp again, kluge > another circuit in-line, or forget the idea and stick with the '870? > > Wes N7WS > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, Rain has come in off the ocean. I fell asleep last night to the sound of a storm. It was still raining steadily when I awoke. It was very peaceful Not as peaceful as a good thunderstorm but it will do. It lasted until mid-day. There has been some clearing but rain is still in the forecast. Temperatures dropped enough to require a fire but I had planned ahead. Yesterday I brought in enough dry wood for a few days. Sun is expected on Wednesday with temperatures in the mid 70s so it will be very warm again. I have no idea about propagation because I have not been on the air since last Sunday. Each day I was up and out the door early and in bed early. Lots of good exercise with much progress on many projects but there was little time for anything else. Winter is coming so I need to be ready. Once the snow falls I can sit around the fire and be lazy. For now there is just too much to get done before then. The hunters are driving by in a steady stream so it is difficult to remember I live in the country. Where there is normally one truck a week there is now one truck every ten minutes. Surprisingly, I saw a car drive by. They are rare up here because the roads are so rough you could easily lose a transmission if one does not drive carefully. I have read more about the sunspot cycle and predictions are for both good and mediocre response. I guess we will find out when it happens rather than listen to any predictions. Please join us tomorrow evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP help) Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood Li st
Hello Gentleman, I fully understand that Sherwood list is of high regard among many hams. Regrettably, I really do not experience what should be expected after studying Sherwood list. In particular, I am referring ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 Vs K3. All these 3 icom rigs are now in my stack and ready to do A/B comparison with K3 at any time. I do not see any day and night difference among them even in the recent IARU contest. Bearing in mind, Hong Kong is small and 1Kw big guns are everywhere (even within line of sight) under contest condition. On the other hand, there are distinct characterists between K3 and Icom rigs. Personal preference and operation easiness would play in these areas. I am pleased to see that Elecraft keeps on improving the firmware which should bring more operation easiness and smoother learning curve. I would expect further improvement in the Noise Reduction function of K3. If you feel this email offensive, please press your "delete" button. 73 Johnny VR2XMC K3 + K2 s 寄件人﹕ Mike Harris 收件人 Don Rasmussen ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2009 年 9月 6 日 星期日 上午 2:06:21 主題： Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List G'day Don, > I tell anyone that will listen, the flexibility of a DSP radio > means little without the rich full natural sound of a good analog > radio. Elecraft has done this (IMO). They have made the hobby > technically better without the artifactual warts. > There are many who would disagree with this. Whatever happened to the "pink noise" response experiment or the LPF that was being tested a few months ago. I will agree that Elecraft have pushed the RF boundary but to date audio hasn't been their thing and here I'm not talking audiophile rubbish just good sound. Unfortunately that is the interface with the human operator. I find myself drawn more and more back to the K2 and if I was closer to the action I might even consider parting with the K3. However, gear that comes to out of the way locations tends to die there and one can always live in hope. Regards, Mike VP8NO Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M Question
Elliot - I am running a K3 / 87A combination, and the 87A is off 99% of the time. Everything works fine. Is there a reason you would expect otherwise? I have the feeling I'm missing something here... On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Lawrence wrote: > I will be using my K3 driving an Alpha 87A. The amp operates up to 10M. > I > am using a Steppir so the same antenna will be used for 6M. The question > is > does anyone have any experience using the K3 barefoot through the 87A when > it is off or in standby? If it can't be used that way, I will need to come > up with a switching scheme to bypass the amp. I have a question in to > Alpha > but don't expect a reply until after the holiday weekend. > > 73 > Elliott WA6TLA > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Farnsworth Memory
Paul If you use the K3 utility to program the cw memories, there is the facility to increase the spacing between characters by half a space. It makes quite a difference and sounds (to my ears) more like the cw I like to think I send! I hope that I'm understanding your query correctly. 73 Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 On 05/09/2009 23:03, "p...@n4lcd.com" wrote: > > When I try to use a memory record in the K3 while I'm sending using > Farnsworth, the K3 removes the extra space. > > Does anyone know how to make the K3 memories use Farnsworth spacing > if I record myself sending Farnsworth? > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Farnsworth Memory
When I try to use a memory record in the K3 while I'm sending using Farnsworth, the K3 removes the extra space. Does anyone know how to make the K3 memories use Farnsworth spacing if I record myself sending Farnsworth? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LP Pan & Quartet
The LP Pan and Quartet Sound Card have been sold. Thanks, Bob W6VY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K-2 Pan Adapter
The LP-PAN Panadapter I offered for sale this morning sold immediately. Thanks for your interest. Long Live the K-2. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K-2-Pan-Adapter-tp3587724p3587724.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/100
Hi all, I appear to have problem with the Rx sensitivity being some what lower on USB than LSB. I've judged this by listening and noting tuning bars when tuned to WWV @ 10 mhz and noise on 20 meters phone. Both with AGC off. Any ideas?? N5RMS Allen _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 6M Question
I will be using my K3 driving an Alpha 87A. The amp operates up to 10M. I am using a Steppir so the same antenna will be used for 6M. The question is does anyone have any experience using the K3 barefoot through the 87A when it is off or in standby? If it can't be used that way, I will need to come up with a switching scheme to bypass the amp. I have a question in to Alpha but don't expect a reply until after the holiday weekend. 73 Elliott WA6TLA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] loaded K2 4 sale
Hello all, The K2 is still for sale!! I am wanting to buy a K3 and need to sell my loaded K2. The serial # is 3644. I have used the rig for receive only as I never finished the transmitter alignment. My ears could not discern a difference in tone. The soldering is professional. The options have never been installed, they are: KSB2 - assembled K160RX - assembled KNB2 - assembled KIO2 - assembled KAF2 - assembled KAT2 - still in kit form all torids wound by "The Torid Guy" I have a non smoking environment and the rig is in excellent condition. I am asking $900.00, shipping is FREE to continental US. I can take credit cards (MasterCard, visa or discover) through my company, Penninger Radio ( www.PenningerRadio.com ) please reply off list to char...@penningerradio.com 73 and thanks for the bandwidth. Charles Penninger, KC9DAO ^ ^ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K2] K2 Twins for sale
Elecraft K2 with KPA100 and KAT100 built into an EC2 in practically new condition Radio options K160RX 160m/2nd receive antenna KNB2 Noise Blanker KBT2 Internal battery kit KSB2 SSB Option KIO2 RS-232 Interface KAT2 20 watt internal tuner ETS2 3" tilt stands (x2) MC-42S Kenwood hand mic Latest updates and firmware All necessary cables for plug and play (no antenna) Hard case to pack it all in (silver) EC2 Blank project enclosure with: KPA100 100w option with KIO2 RS-232 Interface (you will need a power supply for the amp it does not run off the radio's internal battery) KAT100-2 100w Auto tuner with EC2 Panels Latest updates and firmware Manual Serial number 0473 purchased used January of 2009. I added the 160m option, battery option, all of the upgrades (MODS), and all firmware to bring it up to date. It came with the KPA 100 that you could swap with the internal 20w tuner top to make it a 100w rig or use the top with the 20w tuner to make it a QRP Rig. Rather than swapping, I purchased and built the 100w tuner (2/22/2009) in the matching case (EC2) and installed the Amp into the top of that. I also built another KIO2 RS-232 Interface for the amp for connection to the radio Now to go QRP all you have to do is unhook the 100w tuner via cables and your all set. $1500.00 Pictures on request Mycall at bellsouth.net or mycall at yahoo.com See demo video on You Tube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlPsOXXmjTs - W4HDM-DAMON-K2#473 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K2-Twins-for-sale-tp3586679p3586679.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement
Hi Gang, The weekely SSB net will be held tomorrow (9/6/09) at 1800Z on 14.316 MHz. Mark, K4SO, in Virginia will be the net control operator. Check in and join the fraternity. Have a good holiday weekend too 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
G'day Don, > I tell anyone that will listen, the flexibility of a DSP radio > means little without the rich full natural sound of a good analog > radio. Elecraft has done this (IMO). They have made the hobby > technically better without the artifactual warts. > There are many who would disagree with this. Whatever happened to the "pink noise" response experiment or the LPF that was being tested a few months ago. I will agree that Elecraft have pushed the RF boundary but to date audio hasn't been their thing and here I'm not talking audiophile rubbish just good sound. Unfortunately that is the interface with the human operator. I find myself drawn more and more back to the K2 and if I was closer to the action I might even consider parting with the K3. However, gear that comes to out of the way locations tends to die there and one can always live in hope. Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Need +12V on TX
I added a solid-state relay driver in my old Drake L4-B that requires +12V (or so) from the transceiver on transmit. My trusty TS-870 supplies this signal. I'm getting tired of running QRP with the K3 and would like to be able to use the amp with my K3 without further fuss. Is there a magic way to get this signal from the K3 or am I going to be forced to mod the amp again, kluge another circuit in-line, or forget the idea and stick with the '870? Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 :: yet another tiny feature request (!)
It would be nice to have a configuration option to toggle the "AF GAIN" setting simultaneously with toggling of the "SPKR+PH" option. Speakers often have less sensitivity than headphones, and when using the "SPKR+PH" function to switch to cans (I happen to have it assigned to PF2 as do many others) one must them reach for the AF gain knob ... quickly ... ... because the AF gain knobs are adjusted for speaker level. Ouch. tnx Steve KZ1X/4 K1, K2, K3, etc. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Birdie on 30m
Wonder if anybody has a birdie on 10.115, thereabouts. Tried the "sig rmv" tool but it's still there, it just moves a bit. I did not have this the other day as it just showed up. I have latest FW update and have all the mods. I made the latest mod last week but did not remove anything else in the K3 nor did I move any cables ! It is just a nuisance, especially if there is a weak signal on that freq. One other thing tho, I do notice that the frequency jumps in that area as if there is a "dead spot". Thanks. Tom/K1TL... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] F.S. KX1
Howdy Gang: The K1 I had advertised for sale has been sold but the KX1 is still available. This basic KX1 has just recently been built so it is in like-new condition and covers 20M and 40M. Comes with the manual and will ship and insure to your QTH for $315 CONUS. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 VFO-dips
Hi, Trigged by K3 update "K3 VFO tuning noise reduction" is noticed some dips in the noise while tuning the VFO. Is this what this update is about? Are there more K3 users who noticed this? It happens only when the display's hundred-digit changes from a "4" to a "5" and v.v. Here is a list on which frequenties I notice the dip in the noise. It's sounds like the Noise Blanker is activated shortly. But I don't think this is the problem. K3 on LSB or USB with NO antenna attached to it. NB on/off or AGC-F/S makes no difference. 73's Twan - PA0KV 1.800.4 <> 1.800.5 1.806.4 <> 1.806.5 1.812.4 <> 1.812.5 1.816.4 <> 1.816.5 3.601.4 <> 3.601.5 3.607.4 <> 3.607.5 3.615.4 <> 3.615.5 3.622.4 <> 3.622.5 7.001.4 <> 7.001.5 7.011.4 <> 7.011.5 7.021.4 <> 7.021.5 7.031.4 <> 7.031.5 10.100.4 <> 10.100.5 10.112.4 <> 10.112.5 10.124.4 <> 10.124.5 10.136.4 <> 10.136.5 14.013.4 <> 14.013.5 14.058.4 <> 14.058.5 14.073.4 <> 14.073.5 14.102.4 <> 14.102.5 18.078.4 <> 18.078.5 18.095.4 <> 18.095.5 18.112.4 <> 18.112.5 18.130.4 <> 18.130.5 21.010.4 <> 21.010.5 21.030.4 <> 21.030.5 21.050.4 <> 21.050.5 21.070.4 <> 21.070.5 24.904.4 <> 24.904.5 24.926.4 <> 24.926.5 24.949.4 <> 24.949.5 24.971.4 <> 24.971.5 28.021.4 <> 28.021.5 28.046.4 <> 28.046.5 28.070.4 <> 28.070.5 28.094.4 <> 28.094.5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Yes, a Chinese TS830 because the Japanese had their chance at it. ;-) Also enjoy cranking from bottom CW band to band top with manual VFO, fixed selectivity, etc. Oh yes, somebody makes lots of money competing with old units on eBay. I tell anyone that will listen, the flexibility of a DSP radio means little without the rich full natural sound of a good analog radio. Elecraft has done this (IMO). They have made the hobby technically better without the artifactual warts. I have thought about how the K3 will fare better in 30 years, since the design is modular and so many of the components are in large scale integrated circuits. The old Kenwood PC boards are disintegrating from old age. I'd like think the K3 will far surpass TS930, 940, etc. in the old age game - probably outlasting me. ;-) [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List pd0psb p.s.bijpost at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 06:49:37 EDT 2009 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List Next message: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Now, if manufacturers would put their analyzers aside, and just sit down and LISTEN to those grand old rigs And make dsp models with the same characteristics and sound. What a wonderful world it would be ;-) I wouldn't mind a TS-830 replica with all dsp inside. 73' Paul PD0PSB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K-2 LP-PAN Panadapter FS
I have a one day old LP-PAN Panadapter from Telepostinc configured for the K-2 For Sale. It was factory assembled and arrived yesterday (Friday). I paid $235.00 shipped. You can have it in original double box shipped with everything for $180.00. I am selling because it would take a miracle to configure this to work with my K-2 and Signalink interface (which work perfectly otherwise). I am conserving miracles this month. I do not have the patience or interest to study further the compexities of this wonderful invention. Trades? Please reply off-line. Thanks Ron -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K-2-LP-PAN-Panadapter-FS-tp3585062p3585062.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Tips on setting transmit drive for PSK31
Nigel, Yes, a similar procedure can be used with the K2. The K2 ALC indication does indicate actual ALC, so the best setting for the K2 is to increase the audio until you see a flicker on the ALC meter and then back off slightly until it disappears. Because there is no MCU compensation for band to band TX gain variations in the K2, you will likely find the proper setting will change from band to band. Unlike the K3, the K2 has no internal "fancy code" for data modes other than the addition of the RTTY filter set because PSK31 was not popular when the K2 was first designed. BTW - Do use the RTTY filter set for data modes on the K2 rather than SSB mode mainly because it gives you an independent compression setting (which should be 1:1). I set RTTY FL1 the same as SSB FL1 (the OP1 filter must be used for transmit), and then I set FL2= 1.00, FL3=0.70 and FL4=0.40 and center FL2 through FL4 at 1000 Hz. I tune the desired signal near 1000 Hz on the waterfall andin that way I am prepared to narrow the filter if QRM creeps in. The RTTY center frequencies must also be changed to 1000 Hz if the DSP filters are to be used in conjunction with the IF filters. 73, Don W3FPR Nigel wrote: > Don, > Can this approach be used with the K2 in digital modes and if so what are > the suggested settings for the 'bars' when the ALC is turned on? > > 73, Nigel ZL2DF > > > Snip > The K2 has operated this way all its life, but the K3 has a more > sophisticated detection mechanism, so control can be more precise than > the K2. It still takes a bit of output time for the power to settle > down, and that fact has caused a bit of 'wonderment' among users - if > the response is too fast, the power level will oscillate because of the > required high gain in the control loop, so it take a couple dit times > (or equal for SSB and Data modes) for the power to level out. The > control loop is reset with a band change, and a few other actions that I > cannot recall right now. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2345 - Release Date: 09/04/09 > 05:51:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
TS-830 was the best radio ever built by Kenwood but the best feature it had was the TX speech processor which was the most efficient in its class,it made the radio sound like a KW and with a pure punchy clean audio. AD4C "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein --- On Sat, 9/5/09, pd0psb wrote: From: pd0psb Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:49 AM Now, if manufacturers would put their analyzers aside, and just sit down and LISTEN to those grand old rigs And make dsp models with the same characteristics and sound. What a wonderful world it would be ;-) I wouldn't mind a TS-830 replica with all dsp inside. 73' Paul PD0PSB Hi Tom And who can ignore the TS830S! 30 years old and its giving the $10K IC7800 and most other modern radios a good run for their money. It can even have a bandscope WOW, amazing for a $500 dollar radio thats so old. Bye golly by gosh you will even be able to fix it, and it has all the right "numbers" on both RX and TX. The FT102 would be another good candidate. Answer: The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over > 30 years ago! > Have one and the R-7 RX also. Awesome old time > rigs! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-VS-7600-Sherwood-List-tp3583857p3584765.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
The small MCF (monolitic ceramic filters) used by Icom at the 7600,7700 and the 7800 at the first IF will never compete in selectivity with the REAL roofing filters used in our K3's.That's why their dynamic range at 2Khz will never be even close. AD4C "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: From: Arie Kleingeld PA3A Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List To: "'Steve Ellington'" , Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:28 AM Besides RX dynamic range there are a lot of things by which one can compare a good transceiver. I am sure that many people will love the ic7600. It has some very nice features. 73, Arie PA3A -Oorspronkelijk bericht- K3 still at top. 7600 rated #15 for dynamic range. Even an old TS-830 tops it! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Totally useless in today's crowded bands dx work. AD4C "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Alan Bloom wrote: From: Alan Bloom Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List To: "Steve Ellington" Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 5:21 AM Guess which radio has the best 100 kHz blocking dynamic range (146 dB), actually 6 dB better than the K3? ... Answer: The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over 30 years ago! Of course, with its wide roofing filter the close-in dynamic range is much worse and it doesn't have microprocessor control and all the bells and whistles of a modern rig. But for raw performance, it's still pretty hard to beat. Al N1AL On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 00:15 -0400, Steve Ellington wrote: > K3 still at top. 7600 rated #15 for dynamic range. Even an old TS-830 tops > it! > http://www.sherweng.com/table.html > > > Steve > N4LQ > n...@carolina.rr.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: > > >>Answer: The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over 30 years ago! > > Have one and the R-7 RX also. Awesome old time rigs! > The TR-7 also had awesome key clicks! 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-VS-7600-Sherwood-List-tp3583857p3584813.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Now, if manufacturers would put their analyzers aside, and just sit down and LISTEN to those grand old rigs And make dsp models with the same characteristics and sound. What a wonderful world it would be ;-) I wouldn't mind a TS-830 replica with all dsp inside. 73' Paul PD0PSB Hi Tom And who can ignore the TS830S! 30 years old and its giving the $10K IC7800 and most other modern radios a good run for their money. It can even have a bandscope WOW, amazing for a $500 dollar radio thats so old. Bye golly by gosh you will even be able to fix it, and it has all the right "numbers" on both RX and TX. The FT102 would be another good candidate. Answer: The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over > 30 years ago! > Have one and the R-7 RX also. Awesome old time > rigs! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-VS-7600-Sherwood-List-tp3583857p3584765.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Hi Tom And who can ignore the TS830S! 30 years old and its giving the $10K IC7800 and most other modern radios a good run for their money. It can even have a bandscope WOW, amazing for a $500 dollar radio thats so old. Bye golly by gosh you will even be able to fix it, and it has all the right "numbers" on both RX and TX. The FT102 would be another good candidate. Now why does some entrepreneur not manufacturer the TS830S in China? Add a bandscope and a 200 watt solid state amplifier and you will have lots of change left over from $10k. ChIcom sounds like a good name! Juergen --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: > From: Radio Amateur N5GE > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 10:51 PM > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:21:48 -0700, > Alan Bloom > wrote: > > >Guess which radio has the best 100 kHz blocking dynamic > range (146 dB), > >actually 6 dB better than the K3? > > > >... > > > >Answer: The Drake TR-7, which was introduced over > 30 years ago! > > > >Of course, with its wide roofing filter the close-in > dynamic range is > >much worse and it doesn't have microprocessor control > and all the bells > >and whistles of a modern rig. But for raw > performance, it's still > >pretty hard to beat. > > > >Al N1AL > > > [snip] > > Have one and the R-7 RX also. Awesome old time > rigs! > > Tom, N5GE > > n...@n5ge.com > K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, > XV144, XV432, KRC2, > W1 and other small kits. > http://www.n5ge.com > http://www.swotrc.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List
Besides RX dynamic range there are a lot of things by which one can compare a good transceiver. I am sure that many people will love the ic7600. It has some very nice features. 73, Arie PA3A -Oorspronkelijk bericht- K3 still at top. 7600 rated #15 for dynamic range. Even an old TS-830 tops it! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
