Re: [Elecraft] Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
It's either a miss-post or Larry's email has been hijacked!

However, I wish I had taxes that low - all mine do it go up :-(
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 2 Apr 2011, at 06:07, Larry East wrote:

 Karen,
 
 Looks like you owe $236 this year -- $200 less than last year. Your 
 self-employed income was greater but your rental income was less. I 
 want to double check everything before I file it electronically.

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Re: [Elecraft] Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread Kevin Rock
Indeed, if my taxes were that low I would rejoice!




On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:50:22 -0700, David Ferrington, M0XDF  
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 It's either a miss-post or Larry's email has been hijacked!

 However, I wish I had taxes that low - all mine do it go up :-(
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Re: [Elecraft] Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread Mark Stennett
I would guess the figures mentioned refer to the check she has to write, 
not her total tax burden. In other news, it appears nobody wants to know 
her call sign?

73 de na6m


On 4/2/2011 1:55 AM, Kevin Rock wrote:
 Indeed, if my taxes were that low I would rejoice!




 On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:50:22 -0700, David Ferrington, M0XDF
 m0...@alphadene.co.uk  wrote:

 It's either a miss-post or Larry's email has been hijacked!

 However, I wish I had taxes that low - all mine do it go up :-(
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Re: [Elecraft] Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread Gary Gregory
*Chuckle..hey guy's your all overpaid...:-))*
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*I'm poor on account of Elecraft keep snaffling my savings...:-))*
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*73's*
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On 2 April 2011 16:55, Kevin Rock kev...@coho.net wrote:

 Indeed, if my taxes were that low I would rejoice!




 On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:50:22 -0700, David Ferrington, M0XDF
 m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

  It's either a miss-post or Larry's email has been hijacked!
 
  However, I wish I had taxes that low - all mine do it go up :-(
  73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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[Elecraft] RE Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread Larry East
At 10:15 PM 4/1/2011, John Stevens wrote:
I think you had an addressing oops!  :-)  This went to the Elecraft List!

Ah crap!! One entry in the address book off! :-[ But you don't know 
who's taxes! :-)

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[Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread James Maynard
I'm a new K3 owner, and I chose the K3 in part because of its small 
size, because I intend to install it in my boat, which is already 
cramped for space.

  I am re-wiring the boat to comply with ABYC (American Boat  Yacht 
Council) standard E-11, /AC and DC Electrical Systems on Boats/.  I have 
a conventional negative-ground DC system.  The ABYC E-11 standard 
requires that in such a system, overcurrent protection (fuse or circuit 
breaker) to protect the boat's wiring shall be in the ungrounded 
(positive, red) conductor and that the grounded (negative, black or 
yellow) conductors in branch circuits (such as the one that one powers 
my ham station) shall /not/ have fuse or circuit breakers in them.

The /K3 Owner's Manual/, however, states (under Specifications, on 
page 8) that [w]hen a battery is used, both sides of the battery cable 
should be protected by fast-blow fuses.

I wonder why the manual recommends that the negative lead should be 
fused? Can anyone explain this for me?

I intend to wire the K3 power lead with fast-blow fuse in the positive 
(red) conductor only, in compliance with the ABYC E-11 standard.  But 
,still, I wonder: why does the K3 manual recommend fuses in /both 
/conductors: the black (grounded, -12V) as well as the red (ungrounded, 
+12V)?

Jim Maynard, K7KK

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Re: [Elecraft] RE Taxes Due

2011-04-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
The US Governments, by the sound of it !
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 2 Apr 2011, at 08:33, Larry East wrote:

 At 10:15 PM 4/1/2011, John Stevens wrote:
 I think you had an addressing oops!  :-)  This went to the Elecraft List!
 
 Ah crap!! One entry in the address book off! :-[ But you don't know 
 who's taxes! :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Dave, G4AON
With car electrics (and a boat may be similar), the reason is that if 
the engine grounding strap fails (or is removed and not replaced), the 
starter motor can draw current via the radio negative lead which leads 
to damage and possibly fire.

73 Dave, G4AON
-
 I wonder why the manual recommends that the negative lead should be
 fused? Can anyone explain this for me?
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2011-04-02 Thread Geoff Wolf
Well for myself anyway, I wouldn't say that the price of the thing
wouldn't matter. It seems to me anyway that $2K seems a bit high. I'm
imaging that most of the discussion on price so far has been
speculation.

I'm in the process of getting my feet wet with Elecraft. I'm hoping to
have a K3 with a P3 up and running by the end of May. Since I'm
setting up my first shack, I'm not diving into the pool of kickers
just yet. However, I'm leaving room in my antenna plans, etc. for an
amplifier down the road. I've figured that picturing a ~500W would be
pretty spot on. I don't want to start getting close to a kW since the
extra power starts to bring unwanted consequences.

The KPA500 is news to me as of tonight. I'm glad to see that Elecraft
is really widening their RF product line to include this kind of
stuff. I can definitely say that I'll be keeping an eye out for the
KPA500 in the future be because it's a perfect match for the K3.

Can't wait for the details!

Geoffrey Wolf
University of Pittsburgh '14
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 Does anybody know the cost of this unit? Not that it will matter Hi N1KGP
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[Elecraft] K2 - LED Diffuser Installation Question

2011-04-02 Thread Wesley Inouye
Hi,

On 9/12/10, Stan wrote:

I noticed the LCD backlight assembly is labeled (top down) A and K
on one side and K and A on the other side.   The corresponding board
positions for D2 and D3 have + signs.

The manual doesn't say anything about polarity or even if there is a
top and bottom to the diffuser; just to install it and ensure it is
exactly 1/8 off the board using the spacers provided.

I just wanted to double check with someone who has already been through
this.  Do the A and K have something to do with polarity?  These are
little LEDs and normally polarity is important.
Thanks,

Stan Levandowski WB2LQF


I've reached the same step and have the same question, but for some reason
my reflector search did not list the responses.  Thank you in advance for
your help.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - LED Diffuser Installation Question

2011-04-02 Thread Alexey Kats
It's indeed Anode and Kathode (in German). I checked data sheets for
similar parts on Mouser and LED backlight panels that have A and K on
them have these leads attached to combined anodes and cathodes of the LED
group. See 
SSB-COB10025GWhttp://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Lumex/SSB-COB10025GW/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvlvmHaYoGmZXTwJQogLTy2wt%2fgFdHF7zk%3das
an example.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Wesley Inouye wkino...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On 9/12/10, Stan wrote:

 I noticed the LCD backlight assembly is labeled (top down) A and K
 on one side and K and A on the other side.   The corresponding board
 positions for D2 and D3 have + signs.

 The manual doesn't say anything about polarity or even if there is a
 top and bottom to the diffuser; just to install it and ensure it is
 exactly 1/8 off the board using the spacers provided.

 I just wanted to double check with someone who has already been through
 this.  Do the A and K have something to do with polarity?  These are
 little LEDs and normally polarity is important.
 Thanks,

 Stan Levandowski WB2LQF


 I've reached the same step and have the same question, but for some reason
 my reflector search did not list the responses.  Thank you in advance for
 your help.

 Wes...KH6HRY
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread James Maynard
On 2011-04-02 01:03 AM, Dave, G4AON wrote:
 With car electrics (and a boat may be similar), the reason is that if
 the engine grounding strap fails (or is removed and not replaced), the
 starter motor can draw current via the radio negative lead which leads
 to damage and possibly fire.

 73 Dave, G4AON
Thank you, Dave, your answer reassures me.

In fact, boats are quite different from cars.  In cars, it is common to 
use the chassis as a common ground return.  In boats, this is forbidden.

To avoid ground loops, the various types of grounds on a boat (the DC 
safety ground [green], the AC safety ground [green or green with yellow 
stripe], the lightning ground terminal, the bonding ground for 
prevention of electrolysis, the RF radio  ground, etc.) have only one 
common point, which is usually the engine negative terminal.  In boats, 
only the starter motor is connected directly to the engine negative 
terminal.

Other DC circuits on a boat have three (3) wires: the ungrounded 
normally current-carrying conductor (red, DC+), the grounded 
current-carrying conductor (black or yellow, DC-) and the grounding 
conductor which normally does not carry current (safety ground,  green 
or bare wire).

Similarly for AC circuits: the ungrounded normally current-carrying 
conductor (in the USA, black, in the EU, brown), the ungrounded 
current-carrying conductor (in the USA, white, in the EU, light blue), 
and grounding conductor that normally does not carry current (in the 
USA green, in the EU, green with yellow stripe).

Both the DC and AC safety grounds have only one common point: the engine 
negative terminal.  Other circuits, such as the ham radio circuits, are 
on the other side of a main circuit breaker which cuts both the DC+ 
(red wire) and the DC- (black or yellow wire).  Likewise, AC branch 
circuits are on the other side of a main circuit breaker which cuts 
both the hot conductor (ungrounded, black in US, brown in EU) and 
the neutral conductor (grounded, white in US, light blue in EU).  
The safety ground (green with yellow stripe) is never switched.

So in the scenario that you describe, if the engine grounding strap 
should fail or be removed, my boat's main DC circuit breaker will trip, 
disconnecting both the DC- (black or yellow) and DC+ (red) conductors 
but leaving the grounding safety ground (green wire) connected to the 
safety ground bus.  The branch circuits downstream of the DC main 
circuit breaker then have fuses or circuit breakers only in the 
ungrounded (red) conductors.

Thank you, Dave;  your explanation reassures me - because I know how 
boat wiring differs from automobile wiring.

73,  Jim, K7KK





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - LED Diffuser Installation Question

2011-04-02 Thread Wesley Inouye
Thanks Alexey.  Now it seems obvious, once you pointed it out that is.

Aloha,

Wes...KH6HRY

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Alexey Kats alexeyk...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's indeed Anode and Kathode (in German). I checked data sheets for
 similar parts on Mouser and LED backlight panels that have A and K on
 them have these leads attached to combined anodes and cathodes of the LED
 group. See 
 SSB-COB10025GWhttp://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Lumex/SSB-COB10025GW/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvlvmHaYoGmZXTwJQogLTy2wt%2fgFdHF7zk%3das
  an example.

  On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Wesley Inouye wkino...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 On 9/12/10, Stan wrote:

 I noticed the LCD backlight assembly is labeled (top down) A and K
 on one side and K and A on the other side.   The corresponding board
 positions for D2 and D3 have + signs.

 The manual doesn't say anything about polarity or even if there is a
 top and bottom to the diffuser; just to install it and ensure it is
 exactly 1/8 off the board using the spacers provided.

 I just wanted to double check with someone who has already been through
 this.  Do the A and K have something to do with polarity?  These are
 little LEDs and normally polarity is important.
 Thanks,

 Stan Levandowski WB2LQF


 I've reached the same step and have the same question, but for some reason
 my reflector search did not list the responses.  Thank you in advance for
 your help.

 Wes...KH6HRY
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2011-04-02 Thread Gary Gregory
*Geoff,*
*
*
***When you look at the THP products you will see quality inside. The
KPA-500 is an extremely good design with excellent specs and if you use an
amplifier you want it to be clean, robust and simple to use...the KPA-500
meets all the above.*
*
*
*Now if you look at the Ameritron product you will notice the quality of the
design/build IS lacking and is priced accordingly.*
*
*
*I have had many amplifiers including solid state units and I can tell you I
have done everything to break the one I have for field test and it has
performed flawlessly.*
*
*
*I don't have shares in Elecraft but I am a convert to their products after
many years of throwing my money away on equipment that needed upgrading to
meet my requirements and that always entailed buying a new model.*
*
*
*Whatever decision you make, try before you buy because nobody wants to pay
top dollar for an average amplifier on the used market.*
*
*
*YMMV*
*
*
*73's*
*Gary
*

On 2 April 2011 19:10, Geoff Wolf liltechdud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well for myself anyway, I wouldn't say that the price of the thing
 wouldn't matter. It seems to me anyway that $2K seems a bit high. I'm
 imaging that most of the discussion on price so far has been
 speculation.

 I'm in the process of getting my feet wet with Elecraft. I'm hoping to
 have a K3 with a P3 up and running by the end of May. Since I'm
 setting up my first shack, I'm not diving into the pool of kickers
 just yet. However, I'm leaving room in my antenna plans, etc. for an
 amplifier down the road. I've figured that picturing a ~500W would be
 pretty spot on. I don't want to start getting close to a kW since the
 extra power starts to bring unwanted consequences.

 The KPA500 is news to me as of tonight. I'm glad to see that Elecraft
 is really widening their RF product line to include this kind of
 stuff. I can definitely say that I'll be keeping an eye out for the
 KPA500 in the future be because it's a perfect match for the K3.

 Can't wait for the details!

 Geoffrey Wolf
 University of Pittsburgh '14
 AB3LS - Amateur radio call sign
 gr...@pitt.edu
 ab...@arrl.net
 liltechd...@liltechdude.com
 (717)319-1396


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  Does anybody know the cost of this unit? Not that it will matter Hi N1KGP
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Bob Naumann
Jim,

You said: 

 Likewise, AC branch circuits are on the other side of a main circuit
breaker which cuts both the hot conductor (ungrounded, black in US,
brown in EU) and the neutral conductor (grounded, white in US, light
blue in EU).  
The safety ground (green with yellow stripe) is never switched.

The neutral or white wire in USA residential wiring is never cut by a
circuit breaker.  

Both neutral and protective ground circuits are continuous and tie together
only in the main circuit breaker panel (typically) and neither are cut by
a circuit breaker.

In the case of normal residential 120/240v single phase circuit panels, both
hot wires are indeed broken by a Main 2-pole circuit breaker. 240v
branch circuits (2 hots) also use 2-pole breakers. In 120v branch circuits,
only the single hot wire(black) is cut by a circuit breaker.

73,

Bob W5OV
(retired electrician)

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

On 2011-04-02 01:03 AM, Dave, G4AON wrote:
 With car electrics (and a boat may be similar), the reason is that if
 the engine grounding strap fails (or is removed and not replaced), the
 starter motor can draw current via the radio negative lead which leads
 to damage and possibly fire.

 73 Dave, G4AON
Thank you, Dave, your answer reassures me.

In fact, boats are quite different from cars.  In cars, it is common to 
use the chassis as a common ground return.  In boats, this is forbidden.

To avoid ground loops, the various types of grounds on a boat (the DC 
safety ground [green], the AC safety ground [green or green with yellow 
stripe], the lightning ground terminal, the bonding ground for 
prevention of electrolysis, the RF radio  ground, etc.) have only one 
common point, which is usually the engine negative terminal.  In boats, 
only the starter motor is connected directly to the engine negative 
terminal.

Other DC circuits on a boat have three (3) wires: the ungrounded 
normally current-carrying conductor (red, DC+), the grounded 
current-carrying conductor (black or yellow, DC-) and the grounding 
conductor which normally does not carry current (safety ground,  green 
or bare wire).

Similarly for AC circuits: the ungrounded normally current-carrying 
conductor (in the USA, black, in the EU, brown), the ungrounded 
current-carrying conductor (in the USA, white, in the EU, light blue), 
and grounding conductor that normally does not carry current (in the 
USA green, in the EU, green with yellow stripe).

Both the DC and AC safety grounds have only one common point: the engine 
negative terminal.  Other circuits, such as the ham radio circuits, are 
on the other side of a main circuit breaker which cuts both the DC+ 
(red wire) and the DC- (black or yellow wire).  Likewise, AC branch 
circuits are on the other side of a main circuit breaker which cuts 
both the hot conductor (ungrounded, black in US, brown in EU) and 
the neutral conductor (grounded, white in US, light blue in EU).  
The safety ground (green with yellow stripe) is never switched.

So in the scenario that you describe, if the engine grounding strap 
should fail or be removed, my boat's main DC circuit breaker will trip, 
disconnecting both the DC- (black or yellow) and DC+ (red) conductors 
but leaving the grounding safety ground (green wire) connected to the 
safety ground bus.  The branch circuits downstream of the DC main 
circuit breaker then have fuses or circuit breakers only in the 
ungrounded (red) conductors.

Thank you, Dave;  your explanation reassures me - because I know how 
boat wiring differs from automobile wiring.

73,  Jim, K7KK





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - LED Diffuser Installation Question

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Wesley,

The board layout along with the orientation of the LEDs assures you that 
it cannot be mounted backwards, no matter how it is oriented.  Just 
follow the manual instructions and all will be OK.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 5:54 AM, Wesley Inouye wrote:
 Hi,

 On 9/12/10, Stan wrote:

 I noticed the LCD backlight assembly is labeled (top down) A and K
 on one side and K and A on the other side.   The corresponding board
 positions for D2 and D3 have + signs.

 The manual doesn't say anything about polarity or even if there is a
 top and bottom to the diffuser; just to install it and ensure it is
 exactly 1/8 off the board using the spacers provided.

 I just wanted to double check with someone who has already been through
 this.  Do the A and K have something to do with polarity?  These are
 little LEDs and normally polarity is important.
 Thanks,

 Stan Levandowski WB2LQF


 I've reached the same step and have the same question, but for some reason
 my reflector search did not list the responses.  Thank you in advance for
 your help.

 Wes...KH6HRY

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[Elecraft] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

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[Elecraft] Local Noise Problem

2011-04-02 Thread Jim McCook
There is a very serious problem with the local noise source from low 
voltage lighting systems.  These are sold as pendants, single lights, or 
multiple lights on a support, such as a bar.  The retailer supplies them 
with a choice of two types of transformers, either a regular magnetic 
type (non interfering), or an electronic supply, which is a very noisy 
switching supply.  The latter is most popular because it's small enough 
to be contained within the smallest fixture. 

I have two neighbors _a block away_ who have incorporated these into a 
remodel project.  These are kitchen overhead lights that create 
paralyzing noise, particularly on 40m.  I sent the manufacturer/model 
number (Kovacs) to W1RFI, who plans testing to measure radiation 
intensity.  Retrofit for such lighting is very expensive, mostly because 
of the mechanical changes involved.  One of those neighbors was also 
causing me a problem with his cheap Chinese laptop supply, which I replaced.

On the ARRL website there is a list of letters sent to consumers by FCC 
indicating a need to correct the noise generated by certain devices; 
several are listed for lighting systems, which undoubtedly are about the 
switching power supplies in low voltage systems.  FCC Part 15, Sections 
15.5 and 18.111 prohibit such interference to a licensed radio station.

If you know a neighbor who plans a remodel or someone who is building a 
house nearby, suggest they select the magnetic transformer.  These 
lights are almost always a part of every remodel project.  This is a 
noise source that could seriously affect our hobby when new construction 
begins en masse again.

73, Jim
W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I'm not positive (forgive the pun), but I think ideas have changed on that in 
the UK and you again don't fuse the -ve lead, but I'll need to check.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
-- 
In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?

On 2 Apr 2011, at 09:03, Dave, G4AON wrote:

 With car electrics (and a boat may be similar), the reason is that if 
 the engine grounding strap fails (or is removed and not replaced), the 
 starter motor can draw current via the radio negative lead which leads 
 to damage and possibly fire.
 
 73 Dave, G4AON
 -
 I wonder why the manual recommends that the negative lead should be
 fused? Can anyone explain this for me?
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Where will the current will flow if there is a fault?  That is the 
question.

There are two things involved here - wiring the radio negative directly 
to the battery or wiring it to the vehicle chassis.  It does make a 
difference because of the way most vehicle batteries are tied on the 
negative terminal.

If one wires both positive and negative directly to the battery, the 
negative should be fused to protect the RADIO in case of a fault between 
the battery and the engine block.  It is not a safety issue.

Note carefully that the battery negative is wired both to the engine 
block and to the chassis by direct wires from the battery negative.  If 
the battery were tied only to the engine block and then the chassis were 
also tied to the engine block (as was pointed out in the case of the 
boat), the failure mode would not exist.
And it is all because the radio is grounded to the chassis through the 
antenna connection in addition to the negative lead.  If both these 
grounds go to the chassis instead of the battery negative, the problem 
solved by the fuse in the negative lead would not exist.

If the radio negative is connected to the vehicle chassis, the problem 
does not exist and the negative lead should NOT be fused.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 9:40 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 I'm not positive (forgive the pun), but I think ideas have changed on that in 
 the UK and you again don't fuse the -ve lead, but I'll need to check.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: KPA500..Now?

2011-04-02 Thread Bill Harris





Wasn't it Dayton?

bill, W7KXB/7


 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:02:12 -0700
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 From: ve...@dccnet.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: KPA500..Now?
 
 Okay it is now April. Is the announcement for the KPA500 anywhere in sight?
 
 Well, let's see now
 Didn't they start taking orders for the K3 at Visalia?
 Just guessing.
 
 Ralph, VE7XF
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Samuel Strongin
Who's on first Sam kf4yox

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Where will the current will flow if there is a fault?  That is the 
 question.
 
 There are two things involved here - wiring the radio negative directly 
 to the battery or wiring it to the vehicle chassis.  It does make a 
 difference because of the way most vehicle batteries are tied on the 
 negative terminal.
 
 If one wires both positive and negative directly to the battery, the 
 negative should be fused to protect the RADIO in case of a fault between 
 the battery and the engine block.  It is not a safety issue.
 
 Note carefully that the battery negative is wired both to the engine 
 block and to the chassis by direct wires from the battery negative.  If 
 the battery were tied only to the engine block and then the chassis were 
 also tied to the engine block (as was pointed out in the case of the 
 boat), the failure mode would not exist.
 And it is all because the radio is grounded to the chassis through the 
 antenna connection in addition to the negative lead.  If both these 
 grounds go to the chassis instead of the battery negative, the problem 
 solved by the fuse in the negative lead would not exist.
 
 If the radio negative is connected to the vehicle chassis, the problem 
 does not exist and the negative lead should NOT be fused.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/2/2011 9:40 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 I'm not positive (forgive the pun), but I think ideas have changed on that 
 in the UK and you again don't fuse the -ve lead, but I'll need to check.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread Byron Servies
Perhaps these images from the Elecraft web site will provide inspiration:

http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/NewPics2/wj4p_rugged_fr.jpg
http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/NewPics2/wj4p_rugged_caps.jpg
http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/old_pics3.htm


On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:22 PM, eric norris gliderboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It seems to me you could produce side panels for the K2 that were longer in
 front and back to protect the controls in front and connectors in the back.

73, Byron N6NUL
K1 #2799
K2 #7077

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- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread Byron Servies
I left out this nifty looking ruggedized K2 from G3LUB:

http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/g3lub_rugged_k2.jpg

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Byron Servies by...@n6nul.org wrote:
 Perhaps these images from the Elecraft web site will provide inspiration:

 http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/NewPics2/wj4p_rugged_fr.jpg
 http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/NewPics2/wj4p_rugged_caps.jpg
 http://www.elecraft.com/PictureGallery/old_pics3.htm

-- 
73, Byron N6NUL

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- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2011-04-02 Thread phils
 
 The weekly SSB net will be held tomorrow (4/3/11) at 1800z on 14.316
MHz.  This is tail ending with the Icom net that will be ending at
that time on that frequency.  Ken, KO5Y, will again be the net
control station from NM.  Thanks to Ken for the great job in my
absence.  Have a good net. 

73, 

Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2011-04-02 Thread Thomas Horsten
Hi Gary,

On 2 April 2011 12:47, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Geoff,*
 *
 *
 ***When you look at the THP products you will see quality inside. The
 KPA-500 is an extremely good design with excellent specs and if you use an
 amplifier you want it to be clean, robust and simple to use...the KPA-500
 meets all the above.*


What's the deal with the *'s in your messages, it makes them very hard to
read! Is it some feature I've overlooked or am I viewing it in the wrong
format?

73, Thomas
2E0ETT
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 3:40 AM, James Maynard wrote:
 In fact, boats are quite different from cars.  In cars, it is common to
 use the chassis as a common ground return.  In boats, this is forbidden.

While the chassis serves as an acceptable return for DC current, using 
it in this manner is a recipe for AC problems, like alternator while and 
RFI.  Ham gear should ALWAYS be powered by  paired conductors running 
directly from the power source, preferably a twisted pair.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Local Noise Problem

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 6:21 AM, Jim McCook wrote:
 There is a very serious problem with the local noise source from low
 voltage lighting systems.  These are sold as pendants, single lights, or
 multiple lights on a support, such as a bar.  The retailer supplies them
 with a choice of two types of transformers, either a regular magnetic
 type (non interfering), or an electronic supply, which is a very noisy
 switching supply.  The latter is most popular because it's small enough
 to be contained within the smallest fixture.

SNIP

   This is a
 noise source that could seriously affect our hobby when new construction
 begins en masse again.


Absolutely on target, Jim. I inherited a half dozen of these little 
monsters in the home I bought in California five years ago. There are 
two major components of the probem -- first, that these types of devices 
are exempt from Part 15, thanks to ARRL being asleep at the switch when 
the exemption was made (perhaps so focused on BPL that they saw nothing 
else), and to lobbying effort for small government that has 
essentially gutted the FCC.  Second, a real 12V transformer big enough 
to handle the load of these lights is at least 2-4X larger than the the 
limited space available in the electrical back-box for the fixture. So 
from a practical point of view, these switching power supplies are the 
only option. Those sold by the electrical supply houses here in Santa 
Cruz county, CA, are unbranded and carry no FCC labels.

One piece of good news -- most, if not all, of the noise is radiated as 
a common mode signal on the AC power wiring, so  a good AC line filter 
can make a big dent in the RFI.  I was able to fit a filter in the 
backbox with one of these power supplies. It's also possible to suppress 
the noise with a multi-turn toroid choke plus a line-voltage rated 
capacitor across the line. There are two pieces on my website about this 
-- one on RFI and Ham radio, and the other specificcally about these 
filters -- how to use them and where to buy them.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/publish.htm

73, Jim Brown K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 10:45 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
 While the chassis serves as an acceptable return for DC current, using
 it in this manner is a recipe for AC problems, like alternator while and
 RFI.  Ham gear should ALWAYS be powered by  paired conductors running
 directly from the power source, preferably a twisted pair.

Bad fingers -- I meant to say alternator whine.  :)

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread John Fritze
I would be interested in a set of these elongated end panels too.
 Unfortunately it seems the person who used to make them, Randy K3QO (ex
WJ4P) was killed in a plain accident a while back.

John
K2QY
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Anyone with a good woodworking or metalworking shop should be able to 
build a set of suitable extensions for the K2 side panels.
If built out of wood, I would likely use 1/2 inch Baltic Birch plywood 
(it is 9 ply and has no voids) for its strength in all directions, but a 
1/2 inch thick piece of most any hardwood (oak, cherry, walnut, or even 
some of the exotic species) planed to 1/2 inch would look nice IMHO.  I 
would just fasten the wood to the existing side panels and make the 
added sides extend to the plane of the furthermost projection on the 
front and back of the K2.  Longer screws could be used to secure both 
the added panel and the original to the K2.

A similar procedure could be used with metal, but it does not have to be 
as thick as the wood.  In my judgment, 3/16 to 1/4 inch aluminum 
material would be great.

Anyway, that is how I would do it, and NO, I am not going to supply them.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 2:46 PM, John Fritze wrote:
 I would be interested in a set of these elongated end panels too.
   Unfortunately it seems the person who used to make them, Randy K3QO (ex
 WJ4P) was killed in a plain accident a while back.

 John
 K2QY

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[Elecraft] Cursor color

2011-04-02 Thread John Kountz
I have absolutely no complaint with my P3!  I do have a request regarding 
the color of the cursor.  Currently is is the same color as the peak level 
which in many instances overwhelms the cursor.
It would be very useful of, in a future version of the soft ware affiliated 
with the P3, a choice of colors for the cursor was made available
John Kountz, WO1S/T6EE 

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Re: [Elecraft] Local Noise Problem

2011-04-02 Thread Jim McCook
Jim,

Thanks for those suggestions!  It never occurred to me to decouple the 
transformers from the AC line.  In other words, disconnect the antenna 
from the monster.  I'm told that many of these little switchers have 
toroids or little transformers in them that are pretty effective with 
noise supression, and therefore able to get Type Acceptance.  However, 
when they are manufactured in China or Indonesia, etc., they get 
creative in order to save cost.  They can still claim Type Acceptance.  
Elimination of the toroid winding or small transformer and replacement 
with plain wire is the answer, so now we have a noise generator.  AD6ZJ 
deals directly with some of these devices and explained this to some of 
us this morning.  He also mentioned that the frequency of many of these 
switchers has become progressively higher than before, some being up in 
the 3 MHz region!

I'll check out your site for suggestions.  My preference would be to 
purchase something that the electrician can install, since putting some 
sort of homemade device would probably not be acceptable to the 
electrician or the consumer.  It also is a matter of my own 
responsibility.  I'm open to any suggestions.  You may have the answer 
to the problem!

73, Jim
W6YA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  While the chassis serves as an acceptable return for DC current, using
  it in this manner is a recipe for AC problems, like alternator whine
  and RFI.

In addition, it's a recipe for ignition noise and corona noises since
using the chassis of the vehicle as a DC return makes every noise
source in the vehicle (plus antenna return currents) common to the
transceiver power supply.   Consider the impedance between the
transceiver's chassis connection and the negative terminal of the
battery to be equivalent to the modulation choke in an old AM
transmitter ... every noise and all of the antenna return current
modulates the DC reference (DC return) of the transceiver!

Proper installation of communications equipment calls for separately
fused power connections directly to both terminals of the battery
and a substantial common mode choke in the antenna feedline at the
feedpoint of the antenna.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/2/2011 1:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 4/2/2011 3:40 AM, James Maynard wrote:
 In fact, boats are quite different from cars.  In cars, it is common to
 use the chassis as a common ground return.  In boats, this is forbidden.

 While the chassis serves as an acceptable return for DC current, using
 it in this manner is a recipe for AC problems, like alternator while and
 RFI.  Ham gear should ALWAYS be powered by  paired conductors running
 directly from the power source, preferably a twisted pair.

 73, Jim Brown K9YC
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[Elecraft] UK Elecraft SSB net

2011-04-02 Thread Ian Maude
Hi all,
I will be running the UK net tomorrow morning from 09:00BST on 3658 +/- QRM.  I 
hope to see you there.

Regards

Ian
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Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Joe and all,

Tom Rauch W8JI (whom I believe is well versed in the installation of 
radios in vehicles) has disagreed with that about a year ago on this 
reflector.  Those interested in his statements may want to search the 
archives.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 4:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 Proper installation of communications equipment calls for separately
 fused power connections directly to both terminals of the battery
 and a substantial common mode choke in the antenna feedline at the
 feedpoint of the antenna.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

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[Elecraft] K2 - No CW Sidetone

2011-04-02 Thread Tom McCulloch
Hi,
  I seemed to have lost my CW sidetone (and the spot function as well) 
on my K2 - s/n 1103.  I'm getting audio from the receiver out of the 
speakers and the transmitter seems to be transmitting.

Any ideas?  is there a menu setting I may have accidentally turned off?

Tnx
tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103
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[Elecraft] K3 and MARS use

2011-04-02 Thread David F. Reed
How do I go about getting my K3 to transmit on MARS frequencies?  I seem 
to recall there was some software to turn that on.

Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MARS use

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Dave,

Send an email to k3supp...@elecraft.com.  You may have to supply 
authentication that you are a MARS member (I don't know for sure), and 
you should receive the package to open up the bands.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 5:17 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
 How do I go about getting my K3 to transmit on MARS frequencies?  I seem
 to recall there was some software to turn that on.

 Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - No CW Sidetone

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Tom,

Yes, there is a menu item - it is the sidetone source.
Enter the menu for STL, then set the parameter for something loud enough 
for you to hear - use 25 if you have no other idea.  Then while still in 
the menu edit, tap the DISPLAY button to toggle between the 2 sidetone 
sources (it sometimes takes multiple taps).  Stop when you hear sidetone 
and tap the menu button twice to exit the menu.

If you frequently change the sidetone level, there is a chance of 
accidently tapping the Display button while still editing the sidetone 
level.  When zero beating, I recommend you change the AF gain to make 
the signal about the same amplitude as the signal rather than changing 
the sidetone level - it is faster and less chance of an error.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 4/2/2011 5:15 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
 Hi,
I seemed to have lost my CW sidetone (and the spot function as well)
 on my K2 - s/n 1103.  I'm getting audio from the receiver out of the
 speakers and the transmitter seems to be transmitting.

 Any ideas?  is there a menu setting I may have accidentally turned off?

 Tnx
 tom
 WB2QDG
 K2 1103
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - No CW Sidetone

2011-04-02 Thread Tom McCulloch

Don---

   Your are amazing!  How do you know all of this stuff?

   Once again thanks.  I was getting no output from the U6-25 source and 
when I changed the menu to U8-4 there is was load and clear!
I had just taken out my KI02 before this problem arose so I suspect that 
was the reason the re-setting needed to be done.

I'll repeat myself -- Don, you're amazing!!

Thanks once again.

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103

On 4/2/2011 5:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Tom,

 Yes, there is a menu item - it is the sidetone source.
 Enter the menu for STL, then set the parameter for something loud enough
 for you to hear - use 25 if you have no other idea.  Then while still in
 the menu edit, tap the DISPLAY button to toggle between the 2 sidetone
 sources (it sometimes takes multiple taps).  Stop when you hear sidetone
 and tap the menu button twice to exit the menu.

 If you frequently change the sidetone level, there is a chance of
 accidently tapping the Display button while still editing the sidetone
 level.  When zero beating, I recommend you change the AF gain to make
 the signal about the same amplitude as the signal rather than changing
 the sidetone level - it is faster and less chance of an error.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 4/2/2011 5:15 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
 Hi,
 I seemed to have lost my CW sidetone (and the spot function as well)
 on my K2 - s/n 1103.  I'm getting audio from the receiver out of the
 speakers and the transmitter seems to be transmitting.

 Any ideas?  is there a menu setting I may have accidentally turned off?

 Tnx
 tom
 WB2QDG
 K2 1103
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[Elecraft] K60XV Low Power Issue

2011-04-02 Thread Mark Adams
Hi Gang,

Setting my XV222 and XV432 up to run with my K2/10 with I/O has been an
issue and I just found out why. With the K2 set for LP, split path, the
power out at the phono plug is not 1.0 mW as setup in the menu, but 0.2 mW.
The transverters work FB when set to single cable and HP, say 5W drive.

I figure that the K60XV has a problem. The manual says to check the parts in
the LP path. Without any RF voltage info to go with, I figure that just
replacing Q1, D1, and D2 will likely solve the problem. It's a shotgun
approach, but looks reasonable to me.

Comments?

I'm also on the fence. I really need a rig in the shack that'll do 100W on
6M and be a b/u on HF. I had a TS-690SAT and did not care for it much.
Choices are the XV50 and TE Systems 170W amp or an FT-450D or maybe an
FT-950. A K3 is not in the FY11 or FY12 budget. E-Skip season is almost
here!

73,
Mark K2QO
K2 #543
FN03ra
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - No CW Sidetone

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Not so much amazing - when you run across this problem many times, 
it becomes embedded in the brain.
This has been a perpetual K2 support problem, and the selection was left 
in the firmware to support old K2s without the updated wiring for the 
KIO2 or KPA100 on the control board.
Fortunately (for support), the last level of firmware (2.04R) eliminated 
the U6-25 source, so anyone upgrading firmware in an older K2 (less than 
SN 3000) will have to make the wiring change if it is not already done.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 5:41 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
 Don---

 Your are amazing!  How do you know all of this stuff?

 Once again thanks.  I was getting no output from the U6-25 source and
 when I changed the menu to U8-4 there is was load and clear!
 I had just taken out my KI02 before this problem arose so I suspect that
 was the reason the re-setting needed to be done.

 I'll repeat myself -- Don, you're amazing!!

 Thanks once again.

 Tom
 WB2QDG
 K2 1103

 On 4/2/2011 5:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Tom,

 Yes, there is a menu item - it is the sidetone source.
 Enter the menu for STL, then set the parameter for something loud enough
 for you to hear - use 25 if you have no other idea.  Then while still in
 the menu edit, tap the DISPLAY button to toggle between the 2 sidetone
 sources (it sometimes takes multiple taps).  Stop when you hear sidetone
 and tap the menu button twice to exit the menu.

 If you frequently change the sidetone level, there is a chance of
 accidently tapping the Display button while still editing the sidetone
 level.  When zero beating, I recommend you change the AF gain to make
 the signal about the same amplitude as the signal rather than changing
 the sidetone level - it is faster and less chance of an error.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 4/2/2011 5:15 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
 Hi,
  I seemed to have lost my CW sidetone (and the spot function as well)
 on my K2 - s/n 1103.  I'm getting audio from the receiver out of the
 speakers and the transmitter seems to be transmitting.

 Any ideas?  is there a menu setting I may have accidentally turned off?

 Tnx
 tom
 WB2QDG
 K2 1103
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Re: [Elecraft] K60XV Low Power Issue

2011-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Mark,

Do you have the KAT2 installed in that K2?  And if so, did you change 
the KAT2 R6 to 470 ohms as mentioned in the manual - the K60XV kit 
includes the 470 ohm resistor.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2011 5:46 PM, Mark Adams wrote:
 Hi Gang,

 Setting my XV222 and XV432 up to run with my K2/10 with I/O has been an
 issue and I just found out why. With the K2 set for LP, split path, the
 power out at the phono plug is not 1.0 mW as setup in the menu, but 0.2 mW.
 The transverters work FB when set to single cable and HP, say 5W drive.

 I figure that the K60XV has a problem. The manual says to check the parts in
 the LP path. Without any RF voltage info to go with, I figure that just
 replacing Q1, D1, and D2 will likely solve the problem. It's a shotgun
 approach, but looks reasonable to me.

 Comments?

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[Elecraft] K3 +sign in display

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Sheldon
Hadn't paid much attention to the really little things in the display, but a 
while ago while operating CW that there was a + sign under and a little to the 
right of the B vfo indicator.  Wondering what this was, I started digging in 
the book and didn't find anything except that it would indicate repeater offset 
in FM mode with the 2 meter transverter installed or that ESSB was on when in 
SSB mode.  Nothing I could find mentioned CW.  

Since I had only recently started testing the new features Wayne had added in 
test version 4.30 (it still reports 4.29) of the firmware (not available yet on 
the website) I had QRQ turned on.  Not being very observant I missed it, but 
the + in CW mode indicates that QRQ mode is ON in the configuration menu.  

It may be in the manual, but I couldn't find it so thought I'd post my 
observations here in case anyone else had wondered what it was for when in CW 
mode.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 +sign in display

2011-04-02 Thread Ed Muns
QRG mode.  May not be in the manual or manual errata yet, but it is in the
release notes, though I don't recall which release.

Ed - W0YK

Jim, W0EB, asked:
 Hadn't paid much attention to the really little things in the 
 display, but a while ago while operating CW that there was a 
 + sign under and a little to the right of the B vfo 
 indicator.  Wondering what this was, I started digging in the 
 book and didn't find anything except that it would indicate 
 repeater offset in FM mode with the 2 meter transverter 
 installed or that ESSB was on when in SSB mode.  Nothing I 
 could find mentioned CW.  
 
 Since I had only recently started testing the new features 
 Wayne had added in test version 4.30 (it still reports 4.29) 
 of the firmware (not available yet on the website) I had QRQ 
 turned on.  Not being very observant I missed it, but the + 
 in CW mode indicates that QRQ mode is ON in the configuration menu.  
 
 It may be in the manual, but I couldn't find it so thought 
 I'd post my observations here in case anyone else had 
 wondered what it was for when in CW mode.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack and K3

2011-04-02 Thread k4tmc

 Saylors Machine  Design Works also made some nice thick aluminum side panels 
for the K2 with rack-type handles at the front and rear.  I got a set for my 
K2, and also had them do a matching pair for my K3.  Not sure if they still do 
them.  A Google search for the above name brings up the web site but no mention 
of the Elecraft items.

73,
Henry - K4TMC


 


 

 

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From: John Fritze fritzej...@gmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 2:46 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?


I would be interested in a set of these elongated end panels too.

 Unfortunately it seems the person who used to make them, Randy K3QO (ex

WJ4P) was killed in a plain accident a while back.



John

K2QY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 +sign in display

2011-04-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Ed Muns wrote:

 QRG mode.

QRQ.

  May not be in the manual or manual errata yet...

It has been in the manual for quite awhile, actually. Or see firmware  
release notes for revision 4.03.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

 but it is in the
 release notes, though I don't recall which release.

 Ed - W0YK

 Jim, W0EB, asked:
 Hadn't paid much attention to the really little things in the
 display, but a while ago while operating CW that there was a
 + sign under and a little to the right of the B vfo
 indicator.  Wondering what this was, I started digging in the
 book and didn't find anything except that it would indicate
 repeater offset in FM mode with the 2 meter transverter
 installed or that ESSB was on when in SSB mode.  Nothing I
 could find mentioned CW.

 Since I had only recently started testing the new features
 Wayne had added in test version 4.30 (it still reports 4.29)
 of the firmware (not available yet on the website) I had QRQ
 turned on.  Not being very observant I missed it, but the +
 in CW mode indicates that QRQ mode is ON in the configuration menu.

 It may be in the manual, but I couldn't find it so thought
 I'd post my observations here in case anyone else had
 wondered what it was for when in CW mode.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread James Maynard
Right, Bob.

What you say is true of AC residential wiring.

Boats are different.  The so-called main AC breaker on a correctly 
wired boat breaks both the hot wire(s) -- black or in 120/240 VAC 
single phase, black and red) and the neutral (white) wire -- coming 
from the boat's shore power inlet. Also, boats are required (by ABYC 
E-11) to have a reverse polarity indicator or alarm to alert the user if 
he plugs his shore power cable into an incorrectly wired shore power 
pedestal outlet at the marina.

The marina's shore power outlet at the pedestal near your slip is, from 
the point of view of the requirements for residential or factory wiring, 
a BRANCH outlet, and one in a particularly damp and hazardous location, 
where a Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter would be appropriate.  (Most 
marinas lack GFCIs however.)  The shore power coming on board a boat at 
its shore power inlet has its neutral and safety ground conductors tied 
together only at the main power inlet for the whole marina.  At the 
shore power pedestal at your slip, there is usually a noticeable 
different in AC voltage between the neutral and safety ground.  (If 
indeed, there *is* a safety ground -- too often marinas are wired 
incorrectly!)

This can be a particular hazard in marinas in fresh water.  If there 
were a wiring fault aboard your boat - or a nearby boat - there can be 
an AC potential gradient in the fresh water surrounding the boats, and 
anyone swimming nearby can be electrocuted by that AC voltage gradient.  
(People are more conductive than fresh water, but less conductive than 
salt water. So-called ESD -- electro-shock drowning -- can and does occur.)

So I am wiring my boat acccording to the current ABYC E-11 standard 
rather than according to the National Electric Code that applies to 
residential wiring.  I am installing ELCIs (Equipment Leakage Circuit 
Interrupters) for each shore power inlet, and I am also installing an 
isolation transformer, wired according to E-11, with the case connected 
to the boatside ground, and the shield between the windings connected to 
the shoreside neutral (white wire coming from the marina's shoreside 
pedestal).

You are correct, Bob, in describing residential wiring.  But boats are 
different!

Jim Maynard, K7KK

At 2011-04-02 05:14 AM (Pacif Daylight Savings Time), Bob Naumann wrote:
 Jim,

 You said:

  Likewise, AC branch circuits are on the other side of a main circuit
 breaker which cuts both the hot conductor (ungrounded, black in US,
 brown in EU) and the neutral conductor (grounded, white in US, light
 blue in EU).
 The safety ground (green with yellow stripe) is never switched.

 The neutral or white wire in USA residential wiring is never cut by a
 circuit breaker.

 Both neutral and protective ground circuits are continuous and tie together
 only in the main circuit breaker panel (typically) and neither are cut by
 a circuit breaker.

 In the case of normal residential 120/240v single phase circuit panels, both
 hot wires are indeed broken by a Main 2-pole circuit breaker. 240v
 branch circuits (2 hots) also use 2-pole breakers. In 120v branch circuits,
 only the single hot wire(black) is cut by a circuit breaker.

 73,

 Bob W5OV
 (retired electrician)


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Re: [Elecraft] Vol 84, Issue 2 Battery Negative

2011-04-02 Thread alan
Hi all,

The UK Code of Practice for vehicle installations is FCS 1362
http://www.fcs.org.uk/my%20files/fcs_pdfs/codesofpractice/fcs1362_2010.pdf

It is a change, in December 2010, from MPT 1362.

The old MPT version said both leads to battery, both fused.
The negative lead did provide an alternative connection from the vehicle 
chassis to the battery negative and even with the engine/starter earth strap 
intact the current through the rig was non-zero.  With a duff strap it could be 
over 100A.

FCS 1362 avoids that risk by saying positive fused to battery, negative to 
nearest chassis bonding point, no fuse.

That does introduce a common negative impedance for the rig and the vehicle 
electrics, providing a route for import and egress of interference.
The FCS took a value/hazard judgement on the relative magnitudes of the problem 
and the probability of occurrence.

There is no solution for avoiding both problems but with a substantial chassis 
and a close or common bonding point for the battery negative to chassis and 
engine strap to chassis that aspect is minimised.  Outstanding then is the 
vehicle management electronics earthing.

Regards  73  Alan  G0HiQ
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread Bill W4ZV
 Perhaps the top and bottom could be extended too, at least in front,
creating a box around the controls for protection. 

The K2's are available for:  $45
The K3's are available for: $50
(plus shipping)

See photo about 3/4 down this page:

http://saylorsmachine.com/ShopPhotos.html

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MARS use

2011-04-02 Thread David F. Reed
Thanks Don,

not a problem.

--Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA


On 4/2/11 4:32 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Dave,

 Send an email to k3supp...@elecraft.com.  You may have to supply 
 authentication that you are a MARS member (I don't know for sure), and 
 you should receive the package to open up the bands.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 4/2/2011 5:17 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
 How do I go about getting my K3 to transmit on MARS frequencies?  I seem
 to recall there was some software to turn that on.

 Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500..Now?

2011-04-02 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
I wasn't kidding. (Some may have mistakenly thought I was partaking in April 
fools..)

73,
Eric
www.elecraft.com
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On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft e...@elecraft.com 
wrote:

 Next week. :-)
 73,
 Eric
 _..._
 
 Mike AI6II ai...@att.net wrote:
 
 Okay it is now April. Is the announcement that Elecraft will start taking 
 orders for the KPA500 anywhere in sight?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MARS use

2011-04-02 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Only ham callsign and K3 s/n are required.
73,
Eric

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On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Dave,
 Send an email to k3supp...@elecraft.com.  You may have to supply 
 authentication that you are a MARS member (I don't know for sure), and 
 you should receive the package to open up the bands.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/2/2011 5:17 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
 How do I go about getting my K3 to transmit on MARS frequencies?  I seem
 to recall there was some software to turn that on.
 
 Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA
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[Elecraft] Thinking outside (or inside) the box

2011-04-02 Thread Ron Midwin
I have a K-3, S/N 1997 that I am very happy with.

So here's my questions:

I read that the K-3 can be run as a remote station.  Is anyone doing this?
Does anyone have any comments on how this works compared to the Kenwood TS
2000, which a friend of mine let's me use remotely, using W4MQ's software,
which works well.  Any recommendations on other software?

I recently took my Sprint mobile hotspot,
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/DisplaySelPhoneDetail?p
honeSKU=SWAC802ECID=SEM:Google:R:Sprint:Generic

In the car (don't worry, I was a passenger) along with my laptop and got on
the remote station and was able to work stations nicely.

So as you can see, I'm thinking this could be a good way to run radio remote
from my car over the internet to my home station.  

There are many issues I need to resolve; like how to handle the microphone
while driving.  I did order a Bluetooth headset, a Blue Parrot Road Warrior
which gets good reviews from truckers re wind noise.  On the W4MQ software
you need to click on the transmit icon.  Anyone have an idea on how to do
that without having to look at the computer screen?

I previously had a Don Johnson screwdriver on my old car, which I just
turned in on a lease and am reluctant to put the screwdriver on the new car
as it was a lot of work, but worked very well using a Yaesu 857D in the car.

Please only comment if you have constructive comments/suggestions.  I know
that some people don't think this is ham radio and I understand that
position, but still want to try this.

BTW, driving around the L.A. area the mobile hot spot stays connected 99% of
the time.

73

Ron
AE6RH



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Re: [Elecraft] Local Noise Problem

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 1:07 PM, Jim McCook wrote:
 You may have the answer to the problem!

Your electricians should be happy with one of the small 1A line filters, 
Corcom, Delta, or equiv.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 1:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
   a substantial common mode choke in the antenna feedline at the
 feedpoint of the antenna.

Yes.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Why fuse the negative lead from a battery?

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/2/2011 2:06 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Tom Rauch W8JI (whom I believe is well versed in the installation of
 radios in vehicles) has disagreed with that about a year ago on this
 reflector.

I don't often disagree with Tom, but sometimes I think he's mistaken.  
One place we differ is that he recommends powering gear from the 
alternator rather than the battery.  Tom has done a lot of work with 
serious mobile installations, and he has reasons for his recommendations.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Hardened K2 for HFPack?

2011-04-02 Thread Eugene Balinski
  Actually, I was hoping that something like that would be
the next Elecraft product.  Maybe a K2-field, or a K2-A;
a ruggedized, updated, version with lessons learned from
the K3.  Perhaps in a SG-2020 like package, with 20W and a
antenna tuner mounted on the top with both a front and rear
RF connector to allow use of the radio with a whip antenna
in a pack. Use the external KPA-100 with KAT-100 for
non-portable operation. Battery could mount inside the
radio or on the bottom.

Just a thought..  : - ) 

73,
K1NR




On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:31:07 -0700
 Kevin Rock kev...@coho.net wrote:
 Check the archives.  I think someone did that in the past
 and may be  
 available to make more of them for you.
 Kevin.  KD5ONS
 
 
 On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:22:11 -0700, eric norris
 gliderboy1...@yahoo.com  
 wrote:
 
  I recently saw a string of posts on the HFPack forum
 about a dream  
  radio for
  HFPack, Pedestrian Mobile, etc.  Almost everything
 asked for by various
  contributors is already part of the K2--effective NB,
 DSP, 15-20 watt  
  output
  power, miserly receiver, built-in battery pack, etc.
  What the K2  
  doesn't have
  are the physical characteristics for carrying it.
 
  It seems to me you could produce side panels for the K2
 that were longer  
  in
  front and back to protect the controls in front and
 connectors in the  
  back.These same side panels could have attached metal
 strap loops for  
  carrying the K2
  with a shoulder strap, and strap loops for tieing it
 down to an ALICE  
  frame,
  etc.,  Perhaps the top and bottom could be extended
 too, at least in  
  front,
  creating a box around the controls for protection.
 
  Has anyone with a machine shop experimented with this,
 or has Elecraft
  considered making some extra-long panels?  Just a
 thought
 
  73, Eric WD6DBM
 
  K3, K2, K1, KX1, P3, XV432, XV144, mini-modules, 64-oz
 glass for the
  Kool-Aid
 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2011-04-02 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
Propagation was decent this week.  The weather was not.  It has been  
snowing on and off all day.  I get enough sun between storms that it all  
melts but still this is getting old.  I would like spring to really show  
up and stay for a while.

I had very high winds a few days this week but the antennas are still  
up.  The same cannot be said for a number of branches.  Some of those have  
been awakening me in the middle of the night as they whack the roof.  On  
the way back home yesterday I saw more wind damage down below.  Then I saw  
a deer running through a Christmas tree farm who was half way through the  
seasonal color change.  Half greyish and half reddish brown.  In another  
week she will blend in much better.  The most colorful sight was the  
various mosses going through their haploid phase.  Bright, almost neon,  
green.

If anyone is interested in acting as a relay station on either net  
please email me.  I will turn the net over to you for a few minutes so you  
can call areas in my skip zone.  It sure would prove helpful to those I  
cannot reach directly.

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

Stay well,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS

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