[Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread Gavin Keegan
I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) connected to 
my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, preferably 
homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a 
proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK

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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread Brendan Minish
Since MRP40 CW uses the computer's sound card all you need with the K3
is a 1/8 stereo jack to hack cable 
the K3 already has a line out that is transformer isolated and at the
appropriate level to drive PC sound-cards 

I see that MRP40 CW advocates using AFSK in SSB to send CW, please don't
since unless very carefully done with a high quality computer soundcard
it will result in a very wide and grotty transmitted signal. I hear
quite a few crappy AFSK CW signals on the bands and I am pretty tired of
having QSO's ruined by AFSK CW a couple of KHZ away from me.

the K3 has the hardware required to CW key and activate PTT via RS232
built in 

In summary, you need an audio cable and perhaps an RS232 cable 

On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 09:34 +0100, Gavin Keegan wrote:
 I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) connected to 
 my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, preferably 
 homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a 
 proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread Charles R Tropp
I use the SignaLink USB sound card by Tigertronics which is recommended 
by the MRP40 software. See http://www.tigertronics.com/ You will want to 
also order the Elecraft K3 rear panel radio cable and the SLMODK3 Plug 
and play jumper module. This is not homebrew and the price is $105 plus 
$10 for the jumper. Just so you know, the MRP40 software like all CW 
decoding programs suffers from severe limitations. Unless you are 
receiving the signal loud and clear and the sender is sending near 
perfect code (preferably computer generated), you will see a lot of 
garbage. Your own brain decoding CW works a lot better.

On 5/24/2011 4:34 AM, Gavin Keegan wrote:
 I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) connected to
 my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, preferably
 homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a
 proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
How about a top that is fastened to different drilled screw holes on a
base mounting.  The operator uses the screw holes that suit the angle
desired.  Not so difficult as a detent.

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 They are detachable.

 They could be designed to flip left or right, but it would be very
 difficult to make one that has three detented positions. It's
 complicated by the angle of the unit when the tilt feet are deployed.

 Wayne

 On May 23, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Igor Kosvin wrote:

 I assume this is not out of realm of possibility to design paddles
 that can
 rotate and click in three positions: 45 degrees to the right, 90
 degrees and
 45 degrees to the left. There is still about one left handed for
 every 10
 right handed on this planet!
 It also make sense to make them de-touchable to reduce risk of
 breaking when
 the unit is transported.
 73,
 Igor, N1YX


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:31 AM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ralph Parker
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

 I agree.  I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and
 fingers

 to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to
 the
 paddle.  Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another
 problem
 which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my
 right
 stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has
 to be
 held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite
 quickly.  I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea
 on a
 netbook is definitely a deal maker.

 David
 G3UNA


 One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45
 degree
 mounting of the paddles - VERY practical!
 I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use
 on a
 table regardless of your 'handedness'.
 But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it?

 Ralph, VE7XF

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[Elecraft] [XG3] : Manual

2011-05-24 Thread Raymond METZGER
Hi,

There is an inconsistency on the Elecraft web site concerning the XG3 manual
A Rev. A version, dated March 31st is accessible from the Documents and
Software download page, while a newer version, Rev B, dated April 8th, can
be downloaded from the Order page.

73 de Raymond, F4FNT




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Wayne Burdick wrote:
Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of 
your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, 
too.


Will the KX3 development phase be an opportunity to add more facilities 
to the keyer firmware, and feed them back into the K3 as well?

Compared to all the other facilities of the K3, the internal keyer 
remains rather ordinary. Even a $6 K1EL chip has *many* more options. 
Keying is very much a personal preference, and some operators would like 
to use other modes besides Curtis A and B without being forced to use an 
external keyer (and lose the facility to send RTTY and data from the 
paddle).

I'm not suggesting cloning the entire feature set of an external keyer, 
but the K1EL keyers would be a good roadmap for enhancements.


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[Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread Dale
G'day all,

does anyone know if the KPA-500 kits have started shipping yet. If not
what is the anticipated shipping date.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
Here's how I do it with a Palm Paddle for portable operations:
www.ad5x.com/images/Articles/PalmBase.pdf

Another possibility is to use a light-weight paddle mounted on a plate
that your sending hand rests on.  http://n1al.net/ham/paddle.htm  The
weight of your hand keeps it from moving.  Al N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] ATU Question

2011-05-24 Thread Stan Gibbs
Bill,

From page 22 of the the K3 owners manual: Up to 30 ATU settings are saved
for both antennas on every band.  When you hit ATU TUNE, the K3 stores the
tune settings for the KAT3 at the current frequency and for the current
antenna.

In AUTO mode, if the K3 determines, on transmit, that the current KAT3
tuning parameters should be replaced, it will automatically load them when
you key the transmitter.  You can tell this is happening because the ATU
icon will flash briefly on transmit.

As to how the K3 determines whether to load new parameters, I would surmise
that the K3 checks the ATU map each time you transmit, checking whether
the current set of KAT3 parameters best match the current transmit
frequency.  If it finds a better match, it loads them.

For example, if you have previously hit tune at both 14.020 and 14.170, have
been operating at 14.150, and now try to transmit on 14.050, the K3 will
automatically load the parameters stored for 14.020.  This is conjecture on
my part, since I have not seen any documentation of the firmware algorithm. 
But it seems reasonable and in line with what the K3 actually does.
 


Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:
 
 That is how it is supposed to work.  The Auto part of the tuner 
 function is that it remembers the tuning for 2 antennas for any band.  
 


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?

2011-05-24 Thread N4OI - Ken
I hope I am not gushing, but the KX3 and 100w mini-amp are exactly the
direction I want to go in this great hobby. The combination of a PC-less SDR
and the ability to take the components into the field or to a beach house
scratches me right where I itch!  My K1 has a big brother in it's future -
Congratulations Elecraft for your continued market leadership. 
73 es God Bless de Ken. N4OI

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[Elecraft] K3 power loss

2011-05-24 Thread jgaudron
Hello
(On behalf of a friend, Gerard, familiar with his K3, but not so much with 
the English language )
When he sets the power of his K3 at 110, 100, or 90 watts, it decreases 
gradually down to 50 watts, CW or SSB.
If set to 80 watts, no change !
Has anyone an idea ?
Best regards to everyone
Jacques de F9OJ 

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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread nr4c
To decode the CW signals, (no transmit) all you need do is use a patch 
cord (1/8 inch stereo both ends) from the LINE OUT on bacxk of the K3 
and connect to LINE IN or MIC IN on the computer sound card.

For TX, see the uper partr of the schematic shown here:  
http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/IF.gif, the part with the 
opto-couplers.  A patch cord from computer OUT to K3 LINE IN Will get 
you the audio.  The K3 already has transformer isolated in/out on the 
LINE interface.

bc   nr4c


On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:34:11 +0100, Gavin Keegan wrote:
 I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) connected 
 to
 my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, preferably
 homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a
 proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK

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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread Brendan Minish
The requisite keying interfacing for DTR and RTS is ALREADY built into
the K3 
you just need to enable it on the K3 
No need for any interface, just an RS232 cable 

On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:00 -0400, nr4c wrote:
 To decode the CW signals, (no transmit) all you need do is use a patch 
 cord (1/8 inch stereo both ends) from the LINE OUT on bacxk of the K3 
 and connect to LINE IN or MIC IN on the computer sound card.
 
 For TX, see the uper partr of the schematic shown here:  
 http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/IF.gif, the part with the 
 opto-couplers.  A patch cord from computer OUT to K3 LINE IN Will get 
 you the audio.  The K3 already has transformer isolated in/out on the 
 LINE interface.
 
 bc   nr4c
 
 
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:34:11 +0100, Gavin Keegan wrote:
  I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) connected 
  to
  my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, preferably
  homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a
  proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power loss

2011-05-24 Thread nr4c
Check out the antenna.  Maybe the radio is 'folding' back the power due 
to a serious antenna mis-match.  The default foldback level may be 50 
watts, and at power levels of 90, 100 or 110, it sees too high a VSWR 
and protects itself.  But at 80 watts, it isn't as bad so it plods on, 
still suffering, but not dangerous.

...bill  nr4c


On Tue, 24 May 2011 16:00:49 +0200, jgaudron wrote:
 Hello
 (On behalf of a friend, Gerard, familiar with his K3, but not so much 
 with
 the English language )
 When he sets the power of his K3 at 110, 100, or 90 watts, it 
 decreases
 gradually down to 50 watts, CW or SSB.
 If set to 80 watts, no change !
 Has anyone an idea ?
 Best regards to everyone
 Jacques de F9OJ

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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread nr4c

Thanks for this note. I had completely forgotten this capability.  I 
have to use a second RS-232 port for keying my rig due to software 
restraints (N3FJP won't use same serial port for CW as CAT).

...bc   nr4c


On Tue, 24 May 2011 15:24:25 +0100, Brendan Minish wrote:
 The requisite keying interfacing for DTR and RTS is ALREADY built 
 into
 the K3
 you just need to enable it on the K3
 No need for any interface, just an RS232 cable

 On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:00 -0400, nr4c wrote:
 To decode the CW signals, (no transmit) all you need do is use a 
 patch
 cord (1/8 inch stereo both ends) from the LINE OUT on bacxk of the 
 K3
 and connect to LINE IN or MIC IN on the computer sound card.

 For TX, see the uper partr of the schematic shown here:
 http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/IF.gif, the part with 
 the
 opto-couplers.  A patch cord from computer OUT to K3 LINE IN Will 
 get
 you the audio.  The K3 already has transformer isolated in/out on 
 the
 LINE interface.

 bc   nr4c


 On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:34:11 +0100, Gavin Keegan wrote:
  I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) 
 connected
  to
  my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, 
 preferably
  homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a
  proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Interface for MRP 40

2011-05-24 Thread Brendan Minish
In this case you may wish to consider just breaking out the RTS and DTR
lines and connecting them to your second com port 
the grounds can be tied together (pin5)  


On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:31 -0400, nr4c wrote:
 Thanks for this note. I had completely forgotten this capability.  I 
 have to use a second RS-232 port for keying my rig due to software 
 restraints (N3FJP won't use same serial port for CW as CAT).
 
 ...bc   nr4c
 
 
 On Tue, 24 May 2011 15:24:25 +0100, Brendan Minish wrote:
  The requisite keying interfacing for DTR and RTS is ALREADY built 
  into
  the K3
  you just need to enable it on the K3
  No need for any interface, just an RS232 cable
 
  On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:00 -0400, nr4c wrote:
  To decode the CW signals, (no transmit) all you need do is use a 
  patch
  cord (1/8 inch stereo both ends) from the LINE OUT on bacxk of the 
  K3
  and connect to LINE IN or MIC IN on the computer sound card.
 
  For TX, see the uper partr of the schematic shown here:
  http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/IF.gif, the part with 
  the
  opto-couplers.  A patch cord from computer OUT to K3 LINE IN Will 
  get
  you the audio.  The K3 already has transformer isolated in/out on 
  the
  LINE interface.
 
  bc   nr4c
 
 
  On Tue, 24 May 2011 09:34:11 +0100, Gavin Keegan wrote:
   I would like to use the MRP40 CW program with my K3 (1336) 
  connected
   to
   my laptop and need details of a suitable interface unit, 
  preferably
   homebrew.  Can anyone help with either a design or details of a
   proprietarily made unit please?  Gavin Keegan - G6DGK
  
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[Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Christopher Kimball


I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd 
like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the 
board.

What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5 
thumb hands? 

Thanks,

Chris
WB4WZR
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread William Hammond

Dale,
I ordered one two hours after they were announced (kit).  I have not heard a 
word on shipping.  The shipping status.  page from www.elecraft.com says the 
following:

Assembled KPA500s are now beginning to ship.  
We received a huge number of orders the first several days, so it will take us 
several weeks to catch up with them. We are slowly ramping up our daily 
production rate. We will notify you by email prior to shipment.
KPA500 Kits are scheduled to begin shipping between May 23rd and 31st. 

Yesterday was the 23rd...guessing the 31st date is more realistic :)  The 30th 
is a Holiday here in the states, hence a week and a day from their first week 
of estimated shipping dates.
73,
Bill AK5X
K3 sn 69








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To: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:48 am
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500


G'day all,
does anyone know if the KPA-500 kits have started shipping yet. If not
hat is the anticipated shipping date.
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[Elecraft] Was Re: KX3 Fixed Ops- now: KXPA100 preliminary details

2011-05-24 Thread Edward R. Cole
Has a price range been determined.  Size is similar to a lot VHF 
brick amps.  Although, I may not get the KX3, I may get the 
KXPA-100 for my FT-817.  In fact I can see the KXPA-100 being 
attractive to FT-817 owners (especially with ATU).  I am thinking of 
this for mobile HF/6m vs in the home shack.

I actually have the PA from a TS-50 mobile HF rig but packaging it 
into a working PA looks messy so it has remained shelved (and may 
get e-bayed).


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[Elecraft] K3 vox delay

2011-05-24 Thread Lou Kolb
Is there a menu item that deals with vox delay adjustment?  Using the front 
panel control, I can't seem to get it below just under a second and I know 
it should be adjustable down to 50-MS.  Thanks.  Lou -- WA3MIX 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes, we have been shipping built KPA500s for several weeks. We received 
an -amazing- number of KPA500 orders in the first several hours. It will 
take a couple more weeks just to ship all of the assembled K3s and we 
are getting them assembled, tested and burned in as fast as is possible 
while maintaining our high quality level.

We are notifying everyone as they get close to shipping.

Kits will begin to ship in the next week to 10 days.

Hang in there. We're running as fast as we can! :-)

73,  Eric  WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com


On 5/24/2011 8:23 AM, William Hammond wrote:
 Dale,
 I ordered one two hours after they were announced (kit).  I have not heard a 
 word on shipping.  The shipping status.  page from www.elecraft.com says the 
 following:

 Assembled KPA500s are now beginning to ship.
 We received a huge number of orders the first several days, so it will take 
 us several weeks to catch up with them. We are slowly ramping up our daily 
 production rate. We will notify you by email prior to shipment.
 KPA500 Kits are scheduled to begin shipping between May 23rd and 31st.

 Yesterday was the 23rd...guessing the 31st date is more realistic :)  The 
 30th is a Holiday here in the states, hence a week and a day from their first 
 week of estimated shipping dates.
 73,
 Bill AK5X
 K3 sn 69

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I will have KX3 info and an on-line sign-up form up later today on our 
website.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
(Recovering from severe sleep deprivation and return airline delays 
after Dayton..)

On 5/24/2011 5:34 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
 I hope I am not gushing, but the KX3 and 100w mini-amp are exactly the
 direction I want to go in this great hobby. The combination of a PC-less SDR
 and the ability to take the components into the field or to a beach house
 scratches me right where I itch!  My K1 has a big brother in it's future -
 Congratulations Elecraft for your continued market leadership.
 73 es God Bless de Ken. N4OI

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Re: [Elecraft] [XG3] : Manual

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
That will get fixed today.

73, Eric


On 5/24/2011 2:57 AM, Raymond METZGER wrote:
 Hi,

 There is an inconsistency on the Elecraft web site concerning the XG3 manual
 A Rev. A version, dated March 31st is accessible from the Documents and
 Software download page, while a newer version, Rev B, dated April 8th, can
 be downloaded from the Order page.

 73 de Raymond, F4FNT

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[Elecraft] KX-1 For Sale

2011-05-24 Thread Kim Bottles
I have a KX-1 with ATU, 30/80 option, paddles for sale. Also could include a 
small  12 volt 3 amp power supply. I have run it off the internal batteries and 
this small supply successfully.

Cute little rig, but now that the KX-3 has appeared I am willing to sell it.

kbott...@rafn.commailto:kbott...@rafn.com

Seattle area.

Cheers!

Kim - K7IM
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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Jim Wiley

Chris -


Several possibilities occur to me:


Assuming you don't remove any portion of any circuit trace (Duh!), I 
would suggest an Adel nibbler.  It is designed for metal work,but 
works well on circuit boards.  It is essentially a  hand-powered shear 
that removes a small bite of material about 1/16 by 1/4 each time it 
operates.   If used carefully, it can make very precise holes and slots, 
and of course shorten material as well.  It does require a minimal 
amount of clearance to operate.  It will accommodate material up to 
perhaps 3/32 thick, so circuit board should fit OK.


Lacking that,  the next thing I might try is to mount the BL2 on a piece 
of scrap wood (as a handle), and VERY carefully and SLOWLY  trim away 
the excess material using a band saw or jig saw.  Keep your fingers well 
away from the action, of course.  It is important to have something 
large enough to grip (the piece of scrap wood) so that if the saw tries 
to grab the material, you won't lose control, causing possible injury 
and almost certainly ruining your BL2 in the process.


Personally, I would use my milling machine, but not everyone has access 
to one of those.   However, many model railroad enthusiasts,  R/C 
airplane pilots,  and other hobbyists do have small machines, so ask 
around. Your local hobby shop may have some names of people that are 
amenable to helping others.


I have done these sort of modifications many times on various boards and 
assemblies, and with a little care you can  end up with exactly what you 
want.


As a last thought - I would stay away from any sort of sheet metal ships 
or similar tools around PC boards.  In my experience, attempting to use 
these types of tools carries a high risk of causing cracks and splits in 
the board. 


- Jim, KL7CC



Christopher Kimball wrote:
 I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd 
 like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the 
 board.

 What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5 
 thumb hands? 

 Thanks,

 Chris
 WB4WZR

   
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[Elecraft] Using theshielded XG3

2011-05-24 Thread Edward R. Cole
I have my XG3 packaged in a 6x3x2 inch diecast aluminum enclosure 
with a BNC FF bulkhead adapter and short BNC cable for connecting the 
XG3.  I have not installed a small mini-phone jack for connecting the 
XG3 to computer for external control.  I will post some photos of the 
setup in a few days.

Just a quick (preliminary) test of my 2m transverter+K3 gives me some 
results for MDS:

The DEMI 144/28 transverter is spec at 1 dBNF and 17-dB conversion 
gain.  Inputing this into my pathlink analysis program gives me the 
theoretical MDS (dBm for SNR=0) as -138 dBm using 2.8 KHz bw 
(SSB).  I used -138 dBm as spec for the K3 at 500-KHz bw which 
results in a 9 dBNF for my calculations.  -138 dBm at 2.8 KHz 
compares to a system NF= 1.46 dB

I started with two 20-dB Bird coax attenuators attached to the 
shielded XG3 and determined that I needed to run -33 dBm for the 
signal to be detected, so I changed to a 30-dB JFW step attenuator 
finding that a signal with 25 dB attenuation -(107+25) = -132 dBm 
seemed near to the weakest that I could detect by ear.  With the 
cover off the enclosure I could not reduce the signal lower than that 
by adding more attenuation indicating radiation leakage.  With the 
cover on the enclosure, 30-dB attenuation results in a signal too 
weak to detect by ear - e.g. -137 dBm).

I briefly switched to CW (400-Hz bw) so confirm that improved MDS but 
did not try measuring it.

Note: that these measurements were using my un-calibrated ear as 
threshold detector; a better approach will be using the LP-Pan 
display to quantify measurements or using an audio voltmeter.  I did 
not switch off the AGC for the above, either.  But it does tell me in 
a subjective sense what I can expect from the system (afterall my 
ears do the decoding of CW).

Next step will be inserting the signal at the input of my 2m-eme 
preamps for more rigorous testing (and balancing) in the process of 
setting up dual-pol diversity reception.  With the addition of the 
preamp, system theoretical NF drops to essentially that of the 
preamp  (MDS about -155 dBm at 2.8 KHz bw)  I will need  48 dB 
attenuation to lower the XG3 -107 dBm signal to that level.  Not sure 
that the shielding will perform that low until I try it.

One interesting sidenote, I tried picking up the XG3 at -33 dBm into 
a rubber duckie antenna held near the transverter and could not 
detect the signal indicating the shielding of the transverter is 
excellent.  My FT-847 and FT-817 clearly hear such a signal with out 
antennas connected.

summary: the XG3 is a really nice addition to my test equipment!


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?

2011-05-24 Thread Ross Primrose N4RP
If we got on the list at Dayton, do we need to get on the on-line list too?

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/24/2011 12:01 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 I will have KX3 info and an on-line sign-up form up later today on our
 website.

 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 (Recovering from severe sleep deprivation and return airline delays
 after Dayton..)

 On 5/24/2011 5:34 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
 I hope I am not gushing, but the KX3 and 100w mini-amp are exactly the
 direction I want to go in this great hobby. The combination of a PC-less SDR
 and the ability to take the components into the field or to a beach house
 scratches me right where I itch!  My K1 has a big brother in it's future -
 Congratulations Elecraft for your continued market leadership.
 73 es God Bless de Ken. N4OI

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Re: [Elecraft] ATU Question

2011-05-24 Thread Fred Jensen
I believe the KAT3 remembers for two antennas for each segment in 
each band:

160: 10 KHz
80-12: 20 KHz
10: 100 KHz
6: 200 KHz

So, I ran through the bands, stopping in the middle of each of those 
segments and did an ATU TUNE.  Mine now seems to know what to do without 
the tuning algorithm running.  YMMV, I don't really understand all the 
things I do with my K3.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 5/23/2011 10:18 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Bill,

 That is how it is supposed to work.  The Auto part of the tuner
 function is that it remembers the tuning for 2 antennas for any band.
 To get it to remember that information, one must do a TUNE on each
 antenna and on each band - after that, it is only necessary to change to
 the band and the antenna, and the tuner will change accordingly.
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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread David Gilbert

I'm not at all sure I would want to use a nibbler on a populated PV 
board.  Depending upon the brittleness of the board and how carefully 
you are able to wield the nibbler, the resultant mechanical shock could 
be tough on some of the components.

I wouldn't try to cut it with a band saw or jig saw either.  I don't 
think you could clamp the PC board to a larger board uniformly enough to 
avoid vibration (and even mechanical resonance from the saw teeth) with 
a high degree of confidence.

I think I'd prefer to use a Dremel tool with an abrasive disk to cut the 
board.  The cutting action would be in line with the board instead of 
perpendicular to it.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 5/24/2011 9:22 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:
 Chris -


 Several possibilities occur to me:


 Assuming you don't remove any portion of any circuit trace (Duh!), I
 would suggest an Adel nibbler.  It is designed for metal work,but
 works well on circuit boards.  It is essentially a  hand-powered shear
 that removes a small bite of material about 1/16 by 1/4 each time it
 operates.   If used carefully, it can make very precise holes and slots,
 and of course shorten material as well.  It does require a minimal
 amount of clearance to operate.  It will accommodate material up to
 perhaps 3/32 thick, so circuit board should fit OK.


 Lacking that,  the next thing I might try is to mount the BL2 on a piece
 of scrap wood (as a handle), and VERY carefully and SLOWLY  trim away
 the excess material using a band saw or jig saw.  Keep your fingers well
 away from the action, of course.  It is important to have something
 large enough to grip (the piece of scrap wood) so that if the saw tries
 to grab the material, you won't lose control, causing possible injury
 and almost certainly ruining your BL2 in the process.


 Personally, I would use my milling machine, but not everyone has access
 to one of those.   However, many model railroad enthusiasts,  R/C
 airplane pilots,  and other hobbyists do have small machines, so ask
 around. Your local hobby shop may have some names of people that are
 amenable to helping others.


 I have done these sort of modifications many times on various boards and
 assemblies, and with a little care you can  end up with exactly what you
 want.


 As a last thought - I would stay away from any sort of sheet metal ships
 or similar tools around PC boards.  In my experience, attempting to use
 these types of tools carries a high risk of causing cracks and splits in
 the board.


 - Jim, KL7CC



 Christopher Kimball wrote:
 I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd
 like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the
 board.

 What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5
 thumb hands?

 Thanks,

 Chris
 WB4WZR

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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Ken - K0PP

Perhaps a disc or orbital sander would accomplish the task.

DON'T even think of a metal grinder!  Any soft material
such a PC board debris, brass and especially aluminum
should NEVER come in contact with a grinding wheel.

Why?  The soft stuff will be forced into the wheel and can
cause a dangerous explosion of the wheel.  A common
but dangerous practice.

73! Ken - K0PP
 
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[Elecraft] Spectrogram v5.17

2011-05-24 Thread Vern%2C AA7VW%40comcast.net


Where may I purchase Spectrogram v5.17?  I've seen the downloadable version but 
I wanted to obtain it on disc.  Thank you for your help. 

Vern,  AA7VW 


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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Merv Schweigert
I have also used a dremel tool with the cut off wheel,  but also requires
holding the circuit board firmly in something like a vise.  Work slowly
and smooth straight cuts can be done.
Wear glasses flying board particles are nasty.
Merv K9FD/KH6
 Chris -


 Several possibilities occur to me:


 Assuming you don't remove any portion of any circuit trace (Duh!), I
 would suggest an Adel nibbler.  It is designed for metal work,but
 works well on circuit boards.  It is essentially a  hand-powered shear
 that removes a small bite of material about 1/16 by 1/4 each time it
 operates.   If used carefully, it can make very precise holes and slots,
 and of course shorten material as well.  It does require a minimal
 amount of clearance to operate.  It will accommodate material up to
 perhaps 3/32 thick, so circuit board should fit OK.


 Lacking that,  the next thing I might try is to mount the BL2 on a piece
 of scrap wood (as a handle), and VERY carefully and SLOWLY  trim away
 the excess material using a band saw or jig saw.  Keep your fingers well
 away from the action, of course.  It is important to have something
 large enough to grip (the piece of scrap wood) so that if the saw tries
 to grab the material, you won't lose control, causing possible injury
 and almost certainly ruining your BL2 in the process.


 Personally, I would use my milling machine, but not everyone has access
 to one of those.   However, many model railroad enthusiasts,  R/C
 airplane pilots,  and other hobbyists do have small machines, so ask
 around. Your local hobby shop may have some names of people that are
 amenable to helping others.


 I have done these sort of modifications many times on various boards and
 assemblies, and with a little care you can  end up with exactly what you
 want.


 As a last thought - I would stay away from any sort of sheet metal ships
 or similar tools around PC boards.  In my experience, attempting to use
 these types of tools carries a high risk of causing cracks and splits in
 the board.


 - Jim, KL7CC



 Christopher Kimball wrote:

 I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd
 like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the
 board.

 What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5
 thumb hands?

 Thanks,

 Chris
 WB4WZR


  
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I believe that Elecraft said that the assy manual would be posted prior 
to shipping.  I don't see that manual available on the Webpage yet.

On 5/24/2011 9:23 AM, William Hammond wrote:
 Dale,
 I ordered one two hours after they were announced (kit).  I have not heard a 
 word on shipping.  The shipping status.  page from www.elecraft.com says the 
 following:

 Assembled KPA500s are now beginning to ship.
 We received a huge number of orders the first several days, so it will take 
 us several weeks to catch up with them. We are slowly ramping up our daily 
 production rate. We will notify you by email prior to shipment.
 KPA500 Kits are scheduled to begin shipping between May 23rd and 31st.

 Yesterday was the 23rd...guessing the 31st date is more realistic :)  The 
 30th is a Holiday here in the states, hence a week and a day from their first 
 week of estimated shipping dates.
 73,
 Bill AK5X
 K3 sn 69








 -Original Message-
 From: Dalevk4...@gmail.com
 To: ElecraftElecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:48 am
 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500


 G'day all,
 does anyone know if the KPA-500 kits have started shipping yet. If not
 hat is the anticipated shipping date.
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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Craig Smith
Another option that will work for a straight cut and not subject the pcb to 
lots of vibration is just a hacksaw.

73. Craig. AC0DS

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Wollan
I'd use a jeweler's hand saw.  But then, I have one.

  Peter W0LLN


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM, David Gilbert
xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote:

 I'm not at all sure I would want to use a nibbler on a populated PV
 board.  Depending upon the brittleness of the board and how carefully
 you are able to wield the nibbler, the resultant mechanical shock could
 be tough on some of the components.

 I wouldn't try to cut it with a band saw or jig saw either.  I don't
 think you could clamp the PC board to a larger board uniformly enough to
 avoid vibration (and even mechanical resonance from the saw teeth) with
 a high degree of confidence.

 I think I'd prefer to use a Dremel tool with an abrasive disk to cut the
 board.  The cutting action would be in line with the board instead of
 perpendicular to it.

 73,
 Dave   AB7E

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We are testing it versus an actual kit build right now. Stay tuned.

73,
Eric


On 5/24/2011 10:15 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 I believe that Elecraft said that the assy manual would be posted prior
 to shipping.  I don't see that manual available on the Webpage yet.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
No. :-)

73, Eric
--

On 5/24/2011 9:41 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
 If we got on the list at Dayton, do we need to get on the on-line list too?

 73, Ross N4RP

 On 5/24/2011 12:01 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 I will have KX3 info and an on-line sign-up form up later today on our
 website.

 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 (Recovering from severe sleep deprivation and return airline delays
 after Dayton..)

 On 5/24/2011 5:34 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
 I hope I am not gushing, but the KX3 and 100w mini-amp are exactly the
 direction I want to go in this great hobby. The combination of a PC-less SDR
 and the ability to take the components into the field or to a beach house
 scratches me right where I itch!  My K1 has a big brother in it's future -
 Congratulations Elecraft for your continued market leadership.
 73 es God Bless de Ken. N4OI

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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread GDanner
I have had success using a belt sander. At work we would slow it down with a 
variac; but at home I was just careful and worked slowly.

If there is not too much material to remove then maybe an 8 file would be 
effective.

George
AI4VZ


From: Peter
I'd use a jeweler's hand saw.  But then, I have one.
Peter W0LLN 

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Re: [Elecraft] Spectrogram v5.17

2011-05-24 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED
Hello Vern,

 Where may I purchase Spectrogram v5.17?  I've seen the downloadable version 
 but I wanted to obtain it on disc.  Thank you for your help.

You can not buy Spectrogram v5.17, because Richard Horne, the creator of this 
program, is 
lost in (web)space. An the v5.17 is a freeware. So save it yourself on a disc.
-- 
73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
www.qrp4fun.de - dk3...@qrp4fun.de

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[Elecraft] For Sale: Palm Mini paddle for K2

2011-05-24 Thread Bob
For sale a Palm Mini Paddle as here:

http://www.palm-radio.de/english/english.html  or here:

http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/

It is machine screw mounted centered along the front edge of an Elecraft right 
side panel (E100076R  $21.58 in March 09).  With cable.  Paddle cover color 
matches the K2

I can't find the instruction sheet but they are available here:

http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/palmadj.htm

$90 delivered CONUS via Priority Mail

73,
Bob
K2TK
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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Chris,

A disk or belt sander will make short work of that job.  Grip the board 
tightly with all your thumbs so it does not catch and be flung about the 
shop, maybe into a soft spot on your body - be safe.
If you do not have either of those, support the board well and cut with 
a hacksaw.
A die grinder will work too.

Be certain you are not cutting into any PC traces on the board unless 
you are willing to repair any that are cut off.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/24/2011 10:58 AM, Christopher Kimball wrote:

 I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd
 like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the
 board.

 What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5
 thumb hands?


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Re: [Elecraft] A Narrow Dayton Filter

2011-05-24 Thread Jim Lowman
Actually, if we're referring to the same message, the OP asked if there 
was anything new with *Tec-Tec* at Dayton.
This spawned a couple of threads that pointed to the announcement of the 
KX3.
I didn't take it as a snub at Elecraft.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 5/23/2011 8:34 AM, Roy Morris wrote:
 I was amused at a comment on the Ten-Tec reflector this morning.  Can you 
 believe this?

 There was a posting stating there was basically no news on anything from 
 Dayton. The post asked if there was anything really new.   It also stated the 
 Kenwood, Elecraft, ICOM and Yaesu reflectors have been amazingly quiet.  What 
 more needs to be said.
 Oh, well!!  Roy  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2011-05-24 Thread n5ge

And they sure can't ship the kits without the assembly manual...

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE


On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:15:51 -0600, Mike Fatchett W0MU w...@w0mu.com wrote:

I believe that Elecraft said that the assy manual would be posted prior 
to shipping.  I don't see that manual available on the Webpage yet.

[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vox delay

2011-05-24 Thread n5ge

Using the PDF file...

Right click the PDF Page, choose find from the pop-up menu, type VOX delay
in the text box, click the right pointer on the right side of the find
drop-down..

The first click will find 'VOX DELAY' on page five.
The second will find it again on page fourteen.
The third click will find it in the index on page eighty five.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE




On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:58:32 -0400, Lou Kolb louk...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a menu item that deals with vox delay adjustment?  Using the front 
panel control, I can't seem to get it below just under a second and I know 
it should be adjustable down to 50-MS.  Thanks.  Lou -- WA3MIX 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread Oliver Dröse
That's already one step forward! ;-))

Thanks alot for considering it, Wayne,
and good luck with all the work still to do.

73, Olli - DH8BQA



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To: Oliver Dröse dro...@necg.de
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?


Our first priority is the KXAT3 ATU, but we've included the hooks
for a possible internal transverter. And that's all I can say about it
at present.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:

 As it's currently Q  A with Wayne ... ;-))

 Wayne, how much space is left inside the radio? Any real chance to  fit an
 internal 2 m option? THAT would make it a real seller overhere in  Europe
 where 2 m is extremely popular due to population density (and one of  the
 reasons the FT-817 is still selling so extremely well overhere). Any 
 place
 left for that? Could e.g. go in the same place as the internal  tuner, so 
 an
 either or option if it can not be fitted in parallel. ;-))

 TIA ... 73, Olli - DH8BQA (still dreaming)
 Happy owner of the Elecraft K3 #4546 ;-))





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan

Phil  Debbie Salas schrieb am 24 May 2011 um 6:40:

 Here's how I do it with a Palm Paddle for portable operations:
 www.ad5x.com/images/Articles/PalmBase.pdf

I have built the Palmradio IR receiver into the K3 for wireless operation. 
http://www.oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf 

description is in german, but with many pictures.

73!
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[Elecraft] [K3] K3, SDR-IQ and CW Skimmer

2011-05-24 Thread Richard Everitt
Hello all,

I have searched through nabble and found some similar posts but no 
definitive answer as to whether my current goal is possible:

K3 using SDR-IQ in IF mode with CW Skimmer

The above scenario functions but the CW Skimmer spots have a display 
frequency of the IF and not the K3's actual frequency.

I have configured Skimmer's Omni-Rig for the K3. When I start up Skimmer 
I can see that Skimmer opens up the CAT port but the frequencies 
displayed in Skimmer are either relative (+/- 20 kHz) or if I enter 
8.215 MHz as the Skimmer frequencies then the spots have an absolute 
frequency +/- 20 kHz of the IF. I really want to see the frequency of 
the actual spot!

I am using CW Skimmer in SDR-IQ mode.

I have LP-PAN working with Skimmer in Softrock-IF mode but the 24 kHz 
bandwidth limitation is frustrating.

Has anyone got the SDR-IQ to work in IF mode with the K3 and CW Skimmer? 
Alternatively any other way to achieve what I am after - K3-IF mode 
skimming with a bandwidth of 96 kHz or higher?

Thank you for any assistance with my goal.

73 de Rich, G4ZFE

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yes, a good step - I really want this to be an FT-817 killer.
I can live without 70cm, but 2m SSB is quite important to me for UKAC contests, 
FM would just be more icing on the cake.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???

Thank everyone who calls out your faults, your anger, your impatience, your 
egotism; do this consciously, voluntarily.
-Jean Toomer, poet and novelist (1894-1967) 

On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Oliver Dröse wrote:

 That's already one step forward! ;-))
 
 Thanks alot for considering it, Wayne,
 and good luck with all the work still to do.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Our first priority is the KXAT3 ATU, but we've included the hooks
 for a possible internal transverter. And that's all I can say about it
 at present.

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Re: [Elecraft] ATU Question

2011-05-24 Thread Stan Gibbs
Fred,

Very interesting.  It would make sense to spread the tuning segments out
uniformly across the band since antenna impedance doesn't usually vary that
quickly with frequency.

Thanks for the info.


k6dgw wrote:
 
 I believe the KAT3 remembers for two antennas for each segment in 
 each band:
 160: 10 KHz
 80-12: 20 KHz
 10: 100 KHz
 6: 200 KHz
 


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3, SDR-IQ and CW Skimmer

2011-05-24 Thread Dave, G4AON
Richard you can use your SDR-IQ on the same frequency as the K3 by using 
the RF IN/OUT sockets of the KXV3, CW Skimmer works for me in that way 
with a Perseus SDR (including using it with N1MM for K3 freq control). 
See http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/ for details of a suitable splitter to 
feed both receivers.

73 Dave, G4AON


I have searched through nabble and found some similar posts but no
definitive answer as to whether my current goal is possible:

K3 using SDR-IQ in IF mode with CW Skimmer
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread Tim Tucker
If it had both 2m and 440, it WOULD be an 817D killer.  The satellite crowd
also really likes the 817D because it gets you a basic QRP radio and a
portable satellite station to work both the FM and SSB birds.

Remember, Icom had a HF only QRP rig - the 703.  It was a flop.  The KX3
won't suffer the same fate because it's so much more, but it would
absolutely crush the competition (Yaesu FT-817D) if both 2m and 440 were
incorporated.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:26 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 Yes, a good step - I really want this to be an FT-817 killer.
 I can live without 70cm, but 2m SSB is quite important to me for UKAC
 contests, FM would just be more icing on the cake.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???

 Thank everyone who calls out your faults, your anger, your impatience, your
 egotism; do this consciously, voluntarily.
 -Jean Toomer, poet and novelist (1894-1967)

 On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Oliver Dröse wrote:

  That's already one step forward! ;-))
 
  Thanks alot for considering it, Wayne,
  and good luck with all the work still to do.
  - Original Message -
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Our first priority is the KXAT3 ATU, but we've included the hooks
  for a possible internal transverter. And that's all I can say about it
  at present.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread Michael Goins
While I am seriously looking at the KX3 to become the main station
here,and I completely agree about the bird guys, they certainly aren't
the majority of us who operate at low power.

 I've used both the 817 and the 703, and in 37 years as a qrper, I've
never had any interest in vhf. To say that the 703 was a flop
because it was hf only is a pretty bold statement and I think there
are several thousand qrpers who would disagree with you there -
including those posting on a number of lists that are still looking
for a radio that has been discontinued.

mike, k5wmg





On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Tim Tucker ae...@worldwidedx.com wrote:
 If it had both 2m and 440, it WOULD be an 817D killer.  The satellite crowd
 also really likes the 817D because it gets you a basic QRP radio and a
 portable satellite station to work both the FM and SSB birds.

 Remember, Icom had a HF only QRP rig - the 703.  It was a flop.  The KX3
 won't suffer the same fate because it's so much more, but it would
 absolutely crush the competition (Yaesu FT-817D) if both 2m and 440 were
 incorporated.

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:26 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
 m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 Yes, a good step - I really want this to be an FT-817 killer.
 I can live without 70cm, but 2m SSB is quite important to me for UKAC
 contests, FM would just be more icing on the cake.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???

 Thank everyone who calls out your faults, your anger, your impatience, your
 egotism; do this consciously, voluntarily.
 -Jean Toomer, poet and novelist (1894-1967)

 On 24 May 2011, at 20:24, Oliver Dröse wrote:

  That's already one step forward! ;-))
 
  Thanks alot for considering it, Wayne,
  and good luck with all the work still to do.
  - Original Message -
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Our first priority is the KXAT3 ATU, but we've included the hooks
  for a possible internal transverter. And that's all I can say about it
  at present.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread Julian, G4ILO

M0XDF wrote:
 
 Yes, a good step - I really want this to be an FT-817 killer.
 I can live without 70cm, but 2m SSB is quite important to me for UKAC
 contests, FM would just be more icing on the cake.
 
 

Yes, 2m is one of the most popular bands for SOTA activations which I guess
the KX3 would be popular for. It would also take maximum advantage of the
all mode capability. Whilst 70cm would be nice, I guess it would be
expecting too much for there to be space for two internal transverter
modules.

The other thing that would be a huge selling point in Europe if it could be
designed in is support for the 4m band. There is no radio that covers 4m
apart from a couple of cheap Chinese FM handies. A lot of countries have 4m
now and again it is a popular band for SOTA activations. I don't know
whether it is feasible to push the upper frequency limit from 50MHz to 70MHz
but I am sure there are people who would buy one for that reason alone, if
it were possible.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I would certainly like to see Ultramatic
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???
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On 24 May 2011, at 11:12, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:

 Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of 
 your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, 
 too.
 
 
 Will the KX3 development phase be an opportunity to add more facilities 
 to the keyer firmware, and feed them back into the K3 as well?
 
 Compared to all the other facilities of the K3, the internal keyer 
 remains rather ordinary. Even a $6 K1EL chip has *many* more options. 
 Keying is very much a personal preference, and some operators would like 
 to use other modes besides Curtis A and B without being forced to use an 
 external keyer (and lose the facility to send RTTY and data from the 
 paddle).
 
 I'm not suggesting cloning the entire feature set of an external keyer, 
 but the K1EL keyers would be a good roadmap for enhancements.

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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Vic K2VCO
I use a razor saw, or Zona saw available at hobby shops (I also like model 
trains).

On 5/24/2011 7:58 AM, Christopher Kimball wrote:


 I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd
 like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the
 board.

 What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5
 thumb hands?

 Thanks,

 Chris
 WB4WZR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: How much space inside?

2011-05-24 Thread Ray Sills
HI Julian:

And now that US TV broadcasting has almost all but vacated the 54-88  
MHz  band (Channels 2-6 here), the case can be made that a 70 MHz  
band would be good to have on this side of the pond.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
On May 24, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:


 M0XDF wrote:

 Yes, a good step - I really want this to be an FT-817 killer.
 I can live without 70cm, but 2m SSB is quite important to me for UKAC
 contests, FM would just be more icing on the cake.



 Yes, 2m is one of the most popular bands for SOTA activations which  
 I guess
 the KX3 would be popular for. It would also take maximum advantage  
 of the
 all mode capability. Whilst 70cm would be nice, I guess it would be
 expecting too much for there to be space for two internal transverter
 modules.

 The other thing that would be a huge selling point in Europe if it  
 could be
 designed in is support for the 4m band. There is no radio that  
 covers 4m
 apart from a couple of cheap Chinese FM handies. A lot of countries  
 have 4m
 now and again it is a popular band for SOTA activations. I don't know
 whether it is feasible to push the upper frequency limit from 50MHz  
 to 70MHz
 but I am sure there are people who would buy one for that reason  
 alone, if
 it were possible.

 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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[Elecraft] KX3 Dynamic range

2011-05-24 Thread mark roz
What is the dynamic range of the receiver? Similar to Flex 3000 or K3?
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[Elecraft] KX3 in the flesh???

2011-05-24 Thread W5CEM
Will you guys attend HAMCOM in Plano, TX in two weeks and have the KX3 with
you?  

THANKS...

cleve/W5CEM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Dynamic range

2011-05-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
The roofing filter option improves dynamic range over straight SDRs.  
We'll post full specs when they're available.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 24, 2011, at 4:30 PM, mark roz wrote:

 What is the dynamic range of the receiver? Similar to Flex 3000 or K3?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 in the flesh???

2011-05-24 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes, and yes. :-)

73, Eric
www.elecraft.com


On 5/24/2011 4:37 PM, W5CEM wrote:
 Will you guys attend HAMCOM in Plano, TX in two weeks and have the KX3 with
 you?

 THANKS...

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Re: [Elecraft] Shortening a min-module PC board., how to...

2011-05-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
Use a nibbling tool.  Take a tiny amount off of each end.

matt W6NIA

On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:58:31 -0400, you wrote:



I have a BL2 minimodule that's about 1/4 too long for my purposes.  I'd 
like to cut off a piece of it without zapping the functionality of the 
board.

What's the neatest way to do this with commonly available tools and 5 
thumb hands? 

Thanks,

Chris
WB4WZR
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Re: [Elecraft] ATU Question

2011-05-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
Slight correciton.  The ATU will remember ATU settings by ANT, band,
and band segment.  This allows you to get a very close tune up through
the entire band (available on all bands except 2m - K144XV), at least
for segments you've run ATU TUNE within.

Segment size in the lower bands is smaller in KHz than in the upper
bands.  Rev D9 of the owner's manual doesn't really document this
feature.  Maybe it should...

This is an excerpt from MCU 3.03 release notes, re the band segments
for the ATU:

MULTIPLE KAT3 ATU DATA SEGMENTS PER BAND/PER-ANT.: 10 kHz 
per segment on 160 m; 20 kHz on 80-12 m; 50 kHz on 10 m; 200 kHz
on 6 m. This keeps narrowband antennas in tune across the full ham
band. Note 1: You do not have to go through each band and do ATU TUNE
on every segment. The K3 will use the saved LC data segment closest
to your present VFO location. Note 2: You can erase all of the stored
LC data for a given band by tapping CLR in the CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry.


73,
matt W6NIA

On Tue, 24 May 2011 01:18:06 -0400, you wrote:

  Bill,

That is how it is supposed to work.  The Auto part of the tuner 
function is that it remembers the tuning for 2 antennas for any band.  
To get it to remember that information, one must do a TUNE on each 
antenna and on each band - after that, it is only necessary to change to 
the band and the antenna, and the tuner will change accordingly.

The automatic tuner does not follow wherever you tune the VFO - you do 
have to tell it which frequencies you wish it to tune to.

There are several variations on the meaning of automatic.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2011 10:23 PM, Bill Swindell - K1LED wrote:
 I have a K3/100 with the internal antenna tuner. The config is set to AUTO
 but it seems that I still have to press the ATU tune button to get the ATU
 to properly tune when I change bands. Is it supposed to be automatic or not?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 in the flesh???

2011-05-24 Thread W5CEM
YESSS!!!

Sri, just couldn't resist..

cleve/W5CEM

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Re: [Elecraft] ATU Question

2011-05-24 Thread Bill Swindell - K1LED
I appreciate all of the answers. Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Please need help with T/R thump

2011-05-24 Thread Jerry W7ANM
Thanks for your thoughts Don. 

I checked the STL and It's been at 2. The thump does not really change much
on any setting of the STL. I also checked the components you suggested and
Q2 and Q3 are installed correctly and in fact are J309s. R29 is also 22k and
in the right place. Other associated components are correctly installed.

Rick KL7CW suggested an experiment for me to try. That was to connect a .02
to .1 cap across C9 to see if it made a difference. At first I tried a .1
and the thump was completely eliminated and changeover dead quiet but it
made the T-R delay about a second long. (with Menu T-R set to 0). I next
tried a .047 and that seemed to do the trick. I could still hear a very
slight quiet poof at changeover and the T-R delay is slightly longer than
before with the thump but still very acceptable. About the equivalent of
setting the Menu T-R delay to 30 or 40. Definitely QSK not as fast as my K2
but I'm not sure the KX1 was ever supposed to be fast as the K2.

Still something not quite right? In theory the parallel cap shouldn't be
needed but at this point maybe it's a case of component tolerance/anomalies?
Any other ideas?

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

73,
Jerry  



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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Please need help with T/R thump

2011-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Jerry,

Yes, I would look at Q7 and its associated resistor R28.  That 
transistor should saturate and prevent Transmit RF from coming into the 
receiver.  It sounds like it is not working right and the receiver 
saturates during transmit and takes too long to recover.

What you have done by increasing the value of C9 would cover up that 
receiver recovery period.
The easiest way to check Q7 is to replace it, but make certain that Q7 
base goes to at least 0.6 volts during transmit - if it does not, then 
look to R28 and the 6T-2 voltage supply to it, which should be about 6 
volts during transmit and zero during receive.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/24/2011 9:55 PM, Jerry W7ANM wrote:
 Thanks for your thoughts Don.

 I checked the STL and It's been at 2. The thump does not really change much
 on any setting of the STL. I also checked the components you suggested and
 Q2 and Q3 are installed correctly and in fact are J309s. R29 is also 22k and
 in the right place. Other associated components are correctly installed.

 Rick KL7CW suggested an experiment for me to try. That was to connect a .02
 to .1 cap across C9 to see if it made a difference. At first I tried a .1
 and the thump was completely eliminated and changeover dead quiet but it
 made the T-R delay about a second long. (with Menu T-R set to 0). I next
 tried a .047 and that seemed to do the trick. I could still hear a very
 slight quiet poof at changeover and the T-R delay is slightly longer than
 before with the thump but still very acceptable. About the equivalent of
 setting the Menu T-R delay to 30 or 40. Definitely QSK not as fast as my K2
 but I'm not sure the KX1 was ever supposed to be fast as the K2.

 Still something not quite right? In theory the parallel cap shouldn't be
 needed but at this point maybe it's a case of component tolerance/anomalies?
 Any other ideas?

 Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

 73,
 Jerry



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?

2011-05-24 Thread Tim Tucker
Is it later today yet?  J/K.  I just want to be first on the list, LOL.

Tim

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
e...@elecraft.com wrote:

 No. :-)

 73, Eric
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 On 5/24/2011 9:41 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
  If we got on the list at Dayton, do we need to get on the on-line list
 too?
 
  73, Ross N4RP
 
  On 5/24/2011 12:01 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
  I will have KX3 info and an on-line sign-up form up later today on our
  website.
 
  73, Eric  WA6HHQ
  (Recovering from severe sleep deprivation and return airline delays
  after Dayton..)
 
  On 5/24/2011 5:34 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
  I hope I am not gushing, but the KX3 and 100w mini-amp are exactly the
  direction I want to go in this great hobby. The combination of a
 PC-less SDR
  and the ability to take the components into the field or to a beach
 house
  scratches me right where I itch!  My K1 has a big brother in it's
 future -
  Congratulations Elecraft for your continued market leadership.
  73 es God Bless de Ken. N4OI
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Please need help with T/R thump

2011-05-24 Thread Jerry W7ANM
Thanks Don,

Maybe were getting somewhere. Q7s base is at zero during receive but on
transmit it only goes to 0.1v.
The 6T_2 voltage on the other side of R28 goes from 0v during receive then
to 5.63v on transmit. (Normal?)

Looks like I will need to get another Q7?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles

2011-05-24 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
sorry for the typo. 
the www was to much
http://oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf 

Pierfrancesco Caci schrieb am 24 May 2011 um 21:49:

  Werner == Werner Furlan fur...@gmx.net writes:
 
 Werner http://oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf 
 
 the link doesn't work :(
 
 
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