Re: [Elecraft] ssb audio

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

Does your microphone need bias turned on?  If so, check the MIC SEL 
parameters in the main menu.  The fact that you cannot hear from the 
monitor makes me suspicious about your MIC SEL settings - do you have 
MIC SEL set to the proper (front or rear) mic jack?

Use the metering on the K3 as your first indication of correct audio.
Set TX TEST on so you do not bother other hams.
Then set compression to 0, and observe the ALC indicator as you talk 
into the mic.  Adjust the Mic gain until you get between 5 and 7 bars on 
the ALC meter.
Once you have accomplished that, add compression as desired.
If you have all that correct, exit from TX TEST and you should be able 
to transmit a good SSB signal.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/29/2011 11:19 PM, km5ps wrote:
> Hello all-
>   I usually only work cw but heard a station from Australia tonite on
> 15 meters ssb.  Tried to work him but was not getting any pwr out using
> ssb.  Thought it was my mic on my headset, so I switched to my elecraft
> mic and still no pwr out.  The xmit light comes on on k3 and I do have
> the vox on.  But not putting any pwr out on external pwr meter or on
> radio's pwr meter.  I also can not hear my voice back in speaker even
> when I adjust the Monitor settings.  The ssb has worked in the past, but
> I have not used it since Field Day.  Maybe I forgot how to use ssb on
> this Rig.  I have tried this out on 15,10, and 40 meters.  All the
> same.  I have also went into the k3 utility program to double check that
> I still have the filters config set right and it is.  So really don't
> know now.  At least cw still works.  HI HI ...   Any suggestions??  PWR
> out of radio should be 100w..
>
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[Elecraft] ssb audio

[km5ps]

Hello all-
 I usually only work cw but heard a station from Australia tonite on 
15 meters ssb.  Tried to work him but was not getting any pwr out using 
ssb.  Thought it was my mic on my headset, so I switched to my elecraft 
mic and still no pwr out.  The xmit light comes on on k3 and I do have 
the vox on.  But not putting any pwr out on external pwr meter or on 
radio's pwr meter.  I also can not hear my voice back in speaker even 
when I adjust the Monitor settings.  The ssb has worked in the past, but 
I have not used it since Field Day.  Maybe I forgot how to use ssb on 
this Rig.  I have tried this out on 15,10, and 40 meters.  All the 
same.  I have also went into the k3 utility program to double check that 
I still have the filters config set right and it is.  So really don't 
know now.  At least cw still works.  HI HI ...   Any suggestions??  PWR 
out of radio should be 100w..

John
km5ps
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Info ...

[Shane]

Heh, ouch! That's like the ultimate teaser.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> There's serious lab testing and refinement going on as we speak, but I
> can't give you a date yet.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Lane wrote:
>
>> I'm anxiously awaiting to hear about the KAT500. I disparately need
>> a tuner
>> w/ my KPA500, and don't want to spend elsewhere just yet w/o knowing
>> more
>> about what the Elecraft offering will be. So if a special anyone ;)
>> can say
>> maybe when, what, and other ball park figures, I'm sure inquiring
>> minds
>> would like to know.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Info ...

[Wayne Burdick]

There's serious lab testing and refinement going on as we speak, but I  
can't give you a date yet.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Lane wrote:

> I'm anxiously awaiting to hear about the KAT500. I disparately need  
> a tuner
> w/ my KPA500, and don't want to spend elsewhere just yet w/o knowing  
> more
> about what the Elecraft offering will be. So if a special anyone ;)  
> can say
> maybe when, what, and other ball park figures, I'm sure inquiring  
> minds
> would like to know.


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[Elecraft] Nevermind: Puzzler solved...

[Guy]

Wouldn't you just know it!  As soon as I asked for some help, I "solved" the
puzzler.  It came off the K2 Ext T-R Relay Driver board designed by the late
N0SS.  Thanks for the help!
73, Guy

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[Elecraft] Puzzler: Where does this part belong???

[Guy]

After a recent /p trip in Oregon, I noticed a "rattling" noise inside my
K2/10.  I took off the K2 top and found a TO-220 sized transistor completely
loose.  It is market "NTE104F and NTE2374LF" .  It was soldered but broke
off cleanly at the points where it inserts into the PCB.  I can't find any
obvious "home" for it on the main or controller board PCBs.  And a search of
the manual doesn't cross-reference these markings.

Still looking but maybe someone on this list can point me in the right
direction.

Thanks in advance, Guy/N7UN

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[Elecraft] KAT500 Info ...

[Lane]

Hi all,


I'm anxiously awaiting to hear about the KAT500. I disparately need a tuner
w/ my KPA500, and don't want to spend elsewhere just yet w/o knowing more
about what the Elecraft offering will be. So if a special anyone ;) can say
maybe when, what, and other ball park figures, I'm sure inquiring minds
would like to know.
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[jwkimball]

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[Elecraft] [K3] ARI-500/K3/MARS Frequencies

[Steven Pituch]

Hi All,
I would like to use the Ameritron ARI 500 with my ALS 600 and K3 to
automatically switch the ALS 600 to the correct band.  I know this will work
for the ham bands but wonder if it will work for the frequencies between the
ham bands for MARS work.  The ALS 600 uses the following band edges: 160M
(1.5-2.3), 80M (2.3-4.4), 40M (4.4-8.0), 20M (8.0-14.5) etc.  I am wondering
if the K3 uses the same band edges.  For example if I operate on 2.4 MHz
will the K3 send the BCD output to the ARI 500 for 80 Meters, or possibly
160 meters  So I guess what I am asking is whether anyone knows the defined
band edges for the K3 that go out the BAND (0-3) pins of the accessory
connector.  Thanks in advance.

Also wondering how the 60 meter band data affects the ARI 500, since the ALS
600 does not have a 60 meter position.  Does the ARI 500 pick the 40 meter
or 80 meter position for the ALS 600, when the K3 is used.
-- 
73,
Steve Pituch, W2MY
ARES EC Nueces County
TX Army MARS: AAR6CX
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Re: [Elecraft] W2 Advice!

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Phil, do you have a 2KW sensor attached? The sensor is marked with a check
box by either 200W or 2000W. 

Ron AC7AC

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Subject: [Elecraft] W2 Advice!

With the W2 on the output side of the KPA500, in the 2KW range, it pins the
bar graph at 500 watts? Did I miss something in the manual?

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] KAT100-2 + KPA100 shopping list

[Wayne Conrad]

Don, It is indeed a DMM, and it will measure Amps at three (or is it 
four?) different scales from 10A to 200 uA.  It sounds like it'll work. 
  Thanks!

73, Wayne Conrad KF7QGA

On 08/29/11 15:01, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> All that is correct EXCEPT - add to the list if your "multimeter" (which
> is hopefully actually a DMM) does not have it included - a means of
> measuring current draw to at least 2 amps. Many DMMs have a 10 Amp
> range, so that is usable. It is needed to properly set the bias on the
> KPA100.
>
> An accurate wattmeter capable of 100 to 200 watts is handy to use, but
> the DL1 will do if you calibrate the KPA100 wattmeter using the QRP
> levels (up to 15 watts). I usually calibrate the wattmeter first at 10
> watts, and then check it at 80 watts (my wattmeter is calibrated at 80
> watts). There is little difference once you have calibrated it at 10
> watts, but if you want maximum accuracy at high power, you will need the
> higher power wattmeter.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/29/2011 5:39 PM, Wayne Conrad wrote:
(snip)
>> The manuals appear to indicate that I can complete assembly and
>> calibration with multimeter; my DL-1 (20W dummy load), which I can use
>> as a 20W wattmeter; and a 100W dummy load I can borrow from dad. Is
>> that correct?
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] KAT100-2 + KPA100 shopping list

[Don Wilhelm]

Wayne,

All that is correct EXCEPT - add to the list if your "multimeter" (which 
is hopefully actually a DMM) does not have it included - a means of 
measuring current draw to at least 2 amps.  Many DMMs have a 10 Amp 
range, so that is usable.  It is needed to properly set the bias on the 
KPA100.

An accurate wattmeter capable of 100 to 200 watts is handy to use, but 
the DL1 will do if you calibrate the KPA100 wattmeter using the QRP 
levels (up to 15 watts).  I usually calibrate the wattmeter first at 10 
watts, and then check it at 80 watts (my wattmeter is calibrated at 80 
watts).  There is little difference once you have calibrated it at 10 
watts, but if you want maximum accuracy at high power, you will need the 
higher power wattmeter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/29/2011 5:39 PM, Wayne Conrad wrote:
> It's time to get 100W for my K2.  I like the idea of having the 100W amp
> and tuner in a separate box so I can go portable by just disconnecting
> the transceiver and taking it with me, without having to switch tops.
> Here's my shopping list
>
> KPA100K2/100 Internal Integration Kit
> KAT100-2  100W ATU with EC2 panels
> EC2   K2 Blank Project Enclosure
> ETS2  Standard Tilt Stand for the EC2
> KIO2  K2 AUX I/O RS-232 Interface
>
> Is that everything I need to order?
>
> The manuals appear to indicate that I can complete assembly and
> calibration with multimeter; my DL-1 (20W dummy load), which I can use
> as a 20W wattmeter; and a 100W dummy load I can borrow from dad.  Is
> that correct?
>
>
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[Elecraft] [K2] KAT100-2 + KPA100 shopping list

[Wayne Conrad]

It's time to get 100W for my K2.  I like the idea of having the 100W amp 
and tuner in a separate box so I can go portable by just disconnecting 
the transceiver and taking it with me, without having to switch tops. 
Here's my shopping list

KPA100  K2/100 Internal Integration Kit
KAT100-2100W ATU with EC2 panels
EC2 K2 Blank Project Enclosure
ETS2Standard Tilt Stand for the EC2
KIO2K2 AUX I/O RS-232 Interface

Is that everything I need to order?

The manuals appear to indicate that I can complete assembly and 
calibration with multimeter; my DL-1 (20W dummy load), which I can use 
as a 20W wattmeter; and a 100W dummy load I can borrow from dad.  Is 
that correct?

Thanks & 73,
Wayne Conrad KF7QGA
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Re: [Elecraft] want to buy a K3 - what options do I need ?

[Don Wilhelm]

Irwin,

Drop the K3STFNR from the list, it is included on new kits or factory 
builds.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/29/2011 4:16 PM, DK5EW wrote:
> Hello dear Gene and Hello all,
> yes you are right I will post here what I will order finally that maybe
> others with similar interests can see.
> I will mainly use that K3 on 144MHz with a transverter in EME and
> meteorscatter as well on 2m contest.
> Further more I will use it very seldom on short wave/6m and I'm not a CW
> operator.
> So the list maybe different to others with other interests.
> _My personal final configuration is:_
> K3/100-F
> KA3T-F
> KBPF3
> KDVR3
> KFL3A-2.8-2.7sw
> KFL3B-FM
> KTCXO3-1
> KXV3A
> K3STFNR
> For transverter my choice is the HA1YA ME2HT-PRO Link:
> http://ha1ya.config.hu/htmkepek/me2t_protransverterspec.htm
> Later I plan to add the subrx unit and the DSP Panadapter
>
> best regards
> Erwin/DK5EW
> http://www.dk5ew.de
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Re: [Elecraft] W2 Advice!

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

The web page indicates two sensors for HF/6:

0.1-200 W & 1-2000 W sensors for 1-54 MHz

It sounds like your KPA500 is hooked up to a 200W sensor.

73, Guy.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Phil LaMarche  wrote:

> With the W2 on the output side of the KPA500, in the 2KW range, it pins the
> bar graph at 500 watts? Did I miss something in the manual?
>
>
>
> Phil
>
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Re: [Elecraft] want to buy a K3 - what options do I need ?

[DK5EW]

Hello dear Gene and Hello all,
yes you are right I will post here what I will order finally that maybe 
others with similar interests can see.
I will mainly use that K3 on 144MHz with a transverter in EME and 
meteorscatter as well on 2m contest.
Further more I will use it very seldom on short wave/6m and I'm not a CW 
operator.
So the list maybe different to others with other interests.
_My personal final configuration is:_
K3/100-F
KA3T-F
KBPF3
KDVR3
KFL3A-2.8-2.7sw
KFL3B-FM
KTCXO3-1
KXV3A
K3STFNR
For transverter my choice is the HA1YA ME2HT-PRO Link: 
http://ha1ya.config.hu/htmkepek/me2t_protransverterspec.htm
Later I plan to add the subrx unit and the DSP Panadapter

best regards
Erwin/DK5EW
http://www.dk5ew.de


Am 29.08.2011 19:01, schrieb Eugene Balinski:
> Please do list your final configuration so others may
> learn.
>
> 73 and thanks,
>
> Gene K1NR
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:53:06 +0200
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>> I plan to order 30.09.2011
>> I really look forward being a  proud owner of a K3.
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[Elecraft] W2 Advice!

[Phil LaMarche]

With the W2 on the output side of the KPA500, in the 2KW range, it pins the
bar graph at 500 watts? Did I miss something in the manual?

 

Phil

 

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Re: [Elecraft] using P3 and Skimmer

[Larry Phipps]

Correct Jack. Just a couple additional comments...

LP-PAN has more than enough isolation, but we recommend the optional 
preamp (mounts inside LP-PAN) to overcome the total losses of the K3 
buffer and the hybrid splitter in the P3.

FWIW, I have measured the isolation of the P3 splitter, and it is 
considerably lower than 30dB. If using a SoftRock, I would consider it 
imperative to use a Z1 or similar buffer. It would also make sense 
to use one of your low noise preamps ahead of the Z1 if weak signal 
decoding in CW Skimmer is important. I would set the gain of the preamp 
at about 10dB, and the buffer at about 0dB.

73,
Larry N8LP


On 8/29/2011 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:42:04 -0400
> From: Jack Smith
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] using P3 and Skimmer
> To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:<4e5ae05c.1020...@cliftonlaboratories.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> Don:
>
> I recently had a question from a prospective customer for a Z1B
> buffer amplifier about the need for additional isolation if a Softrock
> is used with the P3's splitter IF output.
>
> I can't find a spec for the P3's isolation between the IF output port
> and the IF Input, but 30 dB isn't a bad estimate for a 3 dB  hybrid
> splitter.
>
> Typical local oscillator leakage out of a Softrock is -40 dBm, so a -70
> dBm signal (approximately) will be injected into the P3's input if a
> Softrock is connected to the P3's IF out port. This will appear as a
> spurious pip on the P3's display at around -70 dBm.
>
> The LPPan has isolation and it's leakage is not a problem when used in
> this fashion.  But, I believe a Softrock will require additional
> isolation, on the order of 60 dB or so, in order to be useful without
> injecting a spurious pip into the P3.
>
> Jack K8ZOA
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Re: [Elecraft] want to buy a K3 - what options do I need ?

[DK5EW]

Hello all,
I received mni emails what best is to buy for my case. Now I have the 
overview.
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[Elecraft] KX3 battery life question...

[Dave KK7SS]

Erik,

I laughed as I read your email... you could have been writing about me 
Although "at my age" I tend to prefer public camping areas...  
If I'm lucky, they'll have a table of sorts..

Thanks for the laugh :)

Quote:
" At my age I am not comfortable setting up the radio on the
ground, or sitting on the ground. I will find a rock or fallen tree to sit
on. If I am lucky, there is another such surface nearby that can serve as
operating table. If not, I will hold the radio in one hand. An external
tuner or external paddles would be unacceptable - not enough hands.  If an
"operating table" is available, only one box can be balanced on top of it.
Connect two items together with a cord on top of the "table", and one item
will be on a slope and start sliding down. Also, the pull of the earphone
cord or antenna feedline will cause one of the items to slide down. Once one
item slides, the rest will follow"
Unquote:


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 Richland, WA

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Re: [Elecraft] Preferred upgrade sequence

[ke9uw]

The general assembly manual shows the KXVA3 installed well before the KPA3.
You might try it that way.

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[Elecraft] FW: Mt Herman with Goats in HD

[Phil LaMarche]

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steve_wg0at 


Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:14 pm (PDT) 




Friends, My old Mac G5 system died (RIP, sigh). So I took my KX3 funds and
upgraded my system. (What the heck was he thinking!? ...says Peanut). Took a
couple hiking friends up Mt Herman to play radio and compare a couple
portable antennas. The K2's A/B selection made it easy to see which antenna
was hearing best! Results were they both were about the same but at
different times. Conclusion was location, location, location is the best
antenna. Says, Rooster

...this video tells the rest of the story:  
http://youtu. be/X7iJ57W6WEQ

Steve, wGOAT
(Next is more footage of KX3 on Little Si, WA)





 

Kyle N4NSS   

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Re: [Elecraft] using P3 and Skimmer

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

One is enough.  If skimmer is really needed, and you want the panadapter and
the ability to drive various programs, you get LP-Pan instead of a P3.

A P3 was made so someone with ONLY a K3 and a P3, WITHOUT a PC, could have a
panadapter.  The P3 was not designed as a do-all for all things SDR.
 Elecraft may get around to some add-ons, like IQ output from a P3 or some
such, but those are business decisions.  A K3 had a very clear, specific
intention to begin with, which it brought to life very nicely.

73, Guy.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:34 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

>
>
> OK ... I was wrong about how easy it would be to do.  I still find it
> difficult to believe that any of us should need two different pieces of
> hardware to accomplish what is basically the same job.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2011 6:22 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> >
> >> The upcoming KX3 will have buffered I/Q outputs, though, so clearly
> >> it could have been accomplished without undue cost adders. In my
> >> opinion, it would have made far more sense to include it in the P3.
> >
> > The circuit of the P3 and the KX3 are massively different.  If you had
> > bothered to read the P3 manual and study the block diagram/circuit
> > description you would not have made such a ridiculous statement.
> >
> > The P3 does not create audio internally *at all* - to generate I/Q
> > would require essentially duplicating the P3's entire "IF" along
> > with a separate controller to maintain independent tracking frequency
> > control, an independent "wideband" I/Q audio output and digital to
> > analog converters.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/28/2011 8:08 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, Doug.
> >>
> >> It cannot be done without the addition of some other SDR hardware, such
> >> as an LP-Pan or SDR-IQ or Softrock.
> >>
> >> I publicly, privately, and unsuccessfully lobbied for well over six
> >> months prior to the introduction of the P3 for Elecraft to include
> >> buffered I/Q outputs in it so that it could be used with third party SDR
> >> software like CW Skimmer.  The fact that it doesn't is why I don't own
> >> one and instead bought an LP-Pan.  There are so many interesting things
> >> that can be accomplished with SDR applications that I don't want to be
> >> without that capability, and in my opinion buying two sets of hardware
> >> to do essentially the same thing is an unnecessary redundancy.
> >>
> >> The upcoming KX3 will have buffered I/Q outputs, though, so clearly it
> >> could have been accomplished without undue cost adders.  In my opinion,
> >> it would have made far more sense to include it in the P3.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Dave   AB7E
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/28/2011 2:51 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
> >>> I have noted on the P3 panadapter page from Elecraft, that one of the
> >>> "features" or uses is cited as
> >>>
> >>> http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm  (bullet #11)
> >>> Buffered IF output to drive other equipment (CW Skimmer etc.)
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone describe for me just how this is specifically
> >>> accomplished for
> >>> use with Skimmer?  I don't see any references to "how to hook it up
> >>> with
> >>> Skimmer" anywhere in the P3 user's manual, while I see a lot of
> >>> documentation for "how to" with LP-Pan.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> de Doug KR2Q
> >>>
> >>> K3 SN: 295, 822
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