[Elecraft] Why ESSB and AM?
When Don wrote the paragraph quoted below, I started to think why I would want to use one of these modes. AM doesn't seem very likely except as a demo. But ESSB might be useful to transmit a wide-band, high bit rate digital mode via a computer sound card. Those sound cards have at least 15KHz bandwidth, which would need to be reflected in the transmitter (and receiver) bandwidths. That amount of spectrum would be reasonable in bands where FM is commonly used. I find the regulations for 160M-10M confusing as to the maximum bit rate* and bandwidth permitted, but on 6 meters, the authorized bandwidth is up to 20 kHz with a maximum baud rate of 19.2K baud/second. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV * The regulations speak in terms of maximum baud rate, but you can send more than one bit/baud, if you have enough bandwidth. On 9/22/12 at 18:19, w3...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: I too would like to see the FM filter also usable for AM and ESSB. I really never anticipate transmitting in AM or ESSB, there is always the possibility I would like to use it for some demo sessions showing off the K3 capabilities. The cost/benefit ratio is too high for that kind of occasional application. --- Bill Frantz|Web security is like medicine - trying to do good for 408-356-8506 |an evolved body of kludges - Mark Miller www.pwpconsult.com | __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
That's right, Fred and Mike - This is exactly what I have been mentioning ever since I got my KPA500 a year ago. It only occurs when BND CHG is set to STBY, which I think is safer. Elecraft was able to reproduce it and said it would be corrected in a future release. The bug is supposed to be on the K3 side. IMHO, this is important to all, rather than AM (seldom used) and ESSB (I'd never do that!) 73 Richard - HB9ANM AC6JA wrote Fred, There is a known firmware issue which causes the K3 to sometimes forget to go back to 100W when switching the KPA500 from OPER to STBY. Mine has the same issue where I need to periodically reset the K3 PWR back up to 100W when operating the KPA500 in STBY. So far the K3 remembers to go to the preset PWR output levels when the KPA500 is in OPER. Elecraft is supposed to address this issue in a future firmware release. Mike AC6JA - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-feedback-tp7561833p7563149.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 power output problems
Don Wilhelm wrote: There is one possibility of a loose connection in the ground path for the antenna connectors. At the upper right-rear corner of the K3 there is a 2D connector, a long screw and a standoff is fastened to the threads of that long screw. The tightness of that standoff is important to the ground path to the antenna connectors. See page 22 of the K3 Assembly manual. To tighten the standoff, you will have to first loosen the screw that goes into the inside end of that standoff, then tighten the standoff with pliers (or better yet, a 3/16 inch wrench). Once you have tightened the standoff against the 2D connector, you can tighten the screw again. That slender pillar is the main return path for an ampere or more of RF current flowing between the KAT3 board and the rear panel sockets. As someone whose design instincts were developed at VHF, where all RF ground paths must be short, broad and direct, I didn't feel comfortable about that corner of the K3. Yes, we know that it works and it's good enough for HF. But in these days of compulsory EMC testing and microscopically detailed product reviews, even HF designers are coming to realise that bending the rules for good RF grounding will eat into the margins of performance, spurious signal rejection and stability. RF grounding of the KAT3 board is also far too dependent on the tightness of the screws at each end of the pillar and the cleanness of all the contact surfaces. That ground return path can be much improved by connecting the mounting screw of J1 directly to the corner of the KAT3 board, using two solder tags that are overlapped and soldered directly together. My K3 doesn't necessarily work any better, but it does satisfy the instincts of an old VHF hound :-) -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
*Same here on #679 and has been like it for a year or more I think? the fix is to run OPER all the time which is not helpful if you need to use a tuner...:-) 73 * On 23 September 2012 18:23, Richard Squire - HB9ANM hb9...@bluewin.chwrote: That's right, Fred and Mike - This is exactly what I have been mentioning ever since I got my KPA500 a year ago. It only occurs when BND CHG is set to STBY, which I think is safer. Elecraft was able to reproduce it and said it would be corrected in a future release. The bug is supposed to be on the K3 side. IMHO, this is important to all, rather than AM (seldom used) and ESSB (I'd never do that!) 73 Richard - HB9ANM AC6JA wrote Fred, There is a known firmware issue which causes the K3 to sometimes forget to go back to 100W when switching the KPA500 from OPER to STBY. Mine has the same issue where I need to periodically reset the K3 PWR back up to 100W when operating the KPA500 in STBY. So far the K3 remembers to go to the preset PWR output levels when the KPA500 is in OPER. Elecraft is supposed to address this issue in a future firmware release. Mike AC6JA - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-feedback-tp7561833p7563149.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- *Gary* *Start the day off slow, then taper off.* K3 #679 KPA500FT #18 KAT500FT 007 P3 #1629 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Yes, Bob. This is a very accurate description of the problem. Bob Cunnings NW8L wrote I experience a similar thing. With KPA500 BAND CHG set to STBY and using the KPA500 band buttons to change bands, it happens if the KPA500 goes from OPER to STBY on band change. Elecraft support confirmed the issue and said that it would be fixed in the next K3 firmware release. Bob NW8L - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-feedback-tp7561833p7563150.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
So if this is a known issue that's been present for a year in the life of a new product, one claim of which is tight integration into a chain of products, what's the expected time frame to resolution? I just bought a KPA500 precisely because of this integration but I see now I'll face this problem, because I run a manual tuner. Hopefully they're on to it for the next release. John VK7JB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-feedback-tp7561833p7563153.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Don't worry, John, you can still use the K3 buttons as usual to change bands, but I would still recommend setting BND CHG to STBY on the KPA500 for safety if you are using a manual tuner. Glad to see the issue is now receiving so much feedback! A word in Wayne's ear before Eric has to end the thread, hi! 73 Richard HB9ANM VK7JB wrote So if this is a known issue that's been present for a year in the life of a new product, one claim of which is tight integration into a chain of products, what's the expected time frame to resolution? I just bought a KPA500 precisely because of this integration but I see now I'll face this problem, because I run a manual tuner. Hopefully they're on to it for the next release. John VK7JB - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-feedback-tp7561833p7563154.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No output on my K3 - audio
Greetings to everyone that helped with suggestions on my issue. The problem has been found the - mic has gone bad. The rig transmitted in digital modes, and CW with a keyer. I took my rig over to a buddy that has a K3 and we hooked it up in his shack and narrowed it down to the handheld mic. Rig transmitted fine when we hooked up another mic. 73 Mike N1MXJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Why ESSB and AM?
ESSB might be useful to transmit a wide-band, high bit rate digital mode via a computer sound card. Those sound cards have at least 15KHz bandwidth, ESSB is limited to 4.0 KHz but is not available in digital modes (DATA A or AFSK A). While ESSB might be useful for those modes in which panoramic (click in a 2.5 to 3 KHz wide waterfall) operation is the norm, nearly every transmitter has an in band noise pedestal (broadband noise) the width of the transmit filter that is only 60 to 80 dB below the transmitter's PEP output. By the way, in the K3 when the ALC is adjusted for 4-5 bars and the PWR control reduced to 25 watts or so for PSK31, that noise pedestal is 80 dB relative to 25 watts In the conventional rigs where the power control is run wide open and the audio drive (mic gain) set for no ALC, that noise pedestal is 60 to 80 dB below the *FULL POWER* level as the IF stages run wide open providing maximum amplification of the broadband noise. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/23/2012 2:13 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: When Don wrote the paragraph quoted below, I started to think why I would want to use one of these modes. AM doesn't seem very likely except as a demo. But ESSB might be useful to transmit a wide-band, high bit rate digital mode via a computer sound card. Those sound cards have at least 15KHz bandwidth, which would need to be reflected in the transmitter (and receiver) bandwidths. That amount of spectrum would be reasonable in bands where FM is commonly used. I find the regulations for 160M-10M confusing as to the maximum bit rate* and bandwidth permitted, but on 6 meters, the authorized bandwidth is up to 20 kHz with a maximum baud rate of 19.2K baud/second. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV * The regulations speak in terms of maximum baud rate, but you can send more than one bit/baud, if you have enough bandwidth. On 9/22/12 at 18:19, w3...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: I too would like to see the FM filter also usable for AM and ESSB. I really never anticipate transmitting in AM or ESSB, there is always the possibility I would like to use it for some demo sessions showing off the K3 capabilities. The cost/benefit ratio is too high for that kind of occasional application. --- Bill Frantz|Web security is like medicine - trying to do good for 408-356-8506 |an evolved body of kludges - Mark Miller www.pwpconsult.com | __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 no microphone SSB output - new build
Just finished a K3 100 and the mic is not working. Red led lights with PTT Full 100 watt output with CW Test is off Using an MH2 that works FB with my K2 Mic BTN is on Front panel selected Rechecked TMP cables Reloaded firmware No error messages Any help? Thanks Stan. AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-no-microphone-SSB-output-new-build-tp7563157.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 no microphone SSB output - new build
Is the bias on? 73, Scott, N9AA On 9/23/12 10:53 AM, Stan AE7UT wrote: Just finished a K3 100 and the mic is not working. Red led lights with PTT Full 100 watt output with CW Test is off Using an MH2 that works FB with my K2 Mic BTN is on Front panel selected Rechecked TMP cables Reloaded firmware No error messages Any help? Thanks Stan. AE7UT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 no microphone SSB output - new build
Is the bias turned on? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/23/2012 10:53 AM, Stan AE7UT wrote: Just finished a K3 100 and the mic is not working. Red led lights with PTT Full 100 watt output with CW Test is off Using an MH2 that works FB with my K2 Mic BTN is on Front panel selected Rechecked TMP cables Reloaded firmware No error messages Any help? Thanks Stan. AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-no-microphone-SSB-output-new-build-tp7563157.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 VFO Knob fit the K2?
Will the KX3 VFO tuning Knob fit the VFO shaft on a K2? . the k2 VFO knob is kinda clunky! 73/ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 no microphone SSB output - new build
My first thought - Of course it's on... do you think I'm that dumb? My next thought - I know I turned that on Just checked... it was off. Now all is working fantastic. Thanks. I guess I need another cup of coffee! What a great rig so far. What a fun build. I just sold my Orion II to buy this so I'm hoping no regrets. 73 Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-no-microphone-SSB-output-new-build-tp7563157p7563161.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Morning, It is easy to tell we have entered autumn. When the week began it was in the mid 70s. Now it is in the mid 50s. Trees are changing color and a few have begun to lose their leaves. Spiders are everywhere. As I am cutting wood I try to avoid the largest webs but inevitably I get one square in the face. I have been hearing the elk and coyotes most nights. They and the deer are exploring the areas I have opened up with my logging. They like the easier access to water and to a cozy spot to sleep. Propagation was up and down this week. Let's see how it goes today. Please join us this afternoon and evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help) Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 power output problems (partially fixed!)
As an update, (for all those following this thread with bated breath) It looks like the problem of being unable to get full power out on the bands below 17M, and the inability to do a TXGain calibration, was due to some issue with the configuration of the ATU. I set ATU to not installed and then back to installed and power output came back up. In addition when the ATU is enabled and used to tune the 50 ohm load, the SWR after tuning is 1:1. (those who are following this will remember that originally tuning made the SWR worse). My idea of a loose connection appears to be wrong. Now, the remaining problem is that the Current Display does not indicate the current actually drawn. The display 'saturates' somewhere around 3 amps or so. (It appears to read sensibly up to that level, and then flattens out as power is turned up). I'll ask Elecraft Tech support for guidance on this one I'm hoping to use the rig in the upcoming CQWW, so if there anything amiss, it's sure to show up then. Mark n2qt -Original Message- From: Ian White GM3SEK Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:54 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power output problems Don Wilhelm wrote: There is one possibility of a loose connection in the ground path for the antenna connectors. At the upper right-rear corner of the K3 there is a 2D connector, a long screw and a standoff is fastened to the threads of that long screw. The tightness of that standoff is important to the ground path to the antenna connectors. See page 22 of the K3 Assembly manual. To tighten the standoff, you will have to first loosen the screw that goes into the inside end of that standoff, then tighten the standoff with pliers (or better yet, a 3/16 inch wrench). Once you have tightened the standoff against the 2D connector, you can tighten the screw again. That slender pillar is the main return path for an ampere or more of RF current flowing between the KAT3 board and the rear panel sockets. As someone whose design instincts were developed at VHF, where all RF ground paths must be short, broad and direct, I didn't feel comfortable about that corner of the K3. Yes, we know that it works and it's good enough for HF. But in these days of compulsory EMC testing and microscopically detailed product reviews, even HF designers are coming to realise that bending the rules for good RF grounding will eat into the margins of performance, spurious signal rejection and stability. RF grounding of the KAT3 board is also far too dependent on the tightness of the screws at each end of the pillar and the cleanness of all the contact surfaces. That ground return path can be much improved by connecting the mounting screw of J1 directly to the corner of the KAT3 board, using two solder tags that are overlapped and soldered directly together. My K3 doesn't necessarily work any better, but it does satisfy the instincts of an old VHF hound :-) -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Sorry for the spam
Hi All, very sorry for the spam ... I have two program running and bugs still go through 73 Gian I7SWX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: K3 and MicroHam USB 3 issue
Hi Martin, I decided to take a break in troubleshooting for another weekend and enjoy the fact that I got the USB III working well with fldigi for CW. I will get back to it next weekend and drive towards some type of resolution. Thanks again, Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos On Sep 22, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA arcticp...@yahoo.no wrote: Hi Keith. Have you tried without the Y-cable? Have you tried with lower output? I think that either the Y-cable is messig up things, or that you have an RFI problem. There are no definitive answer of what the positions on the volum knobs on the front shall be as they have to be adjusted depending on the software used, the soundcard settings and the transceiver used. Martin Storli LA8OKA Oslo, Norway ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm Fra: Keith Heimbold ag...@hotmail.com Til: Elecraft Group elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sendt: Lørdag, 22. september 2012 14.27 Emne: [Elecraft] K3 and MicroHam USB 3 issue I am going to send this out to both reflectors, Elecraft and MicroHam because I am not sure where I have set up the system incorrectly. The system does work intermittently and I have had successful QSOs with it on both CW and digital modes. Setup; K3, MicroHam USB 3, Y cable to ACC to USB 3 and Yaesu Quadra amp, new Asus PC running 64 bit win 7 O/S with 12 gigs of RAM. Issue: I have intermittent performance with the USB 3 and my k3. At times when using the device with FLDigi software the transceiver ends up locking up on transmit and I usually have to exit out of FLDigi to stop the transmit cycle as none of the buttons will work. This has happened in all fldigi digital modes but is most prevalent during CW. I am also very uncertain about the knob position on the front of the USB 3. Sorry but I can't find where the position should be in the manual. Plus I cannot seem to get five bars on the ALC meter of my K3 no matter what I try. I am not sure if this is a K3 or USB 3 setup issue. I need a little help. It does work about 50% of the time. Thanks, Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Why ESSB and AM?
I am digging to the bottom of the barrel for reasons to have a broad transmit bandwidth. I don't think the high speed digital mode I'm thinking about has yet been invented, but one of the purposes of amateur radio is to expriment with new modes. I see such a mode as being useful for meteor trail scatter propagation. I think you could send an entire exchange segment (called station, signal report, and transmitting station) in under 10 milliseconds. That speed would allow several QSOs during the 1-3 second lifespan of the ionization. With forward error correction in the protocol, the software could calculate the signal report based on the number of wrong bits received and the signal strength, the 5 and the 9 of a conventional SSB report. With the mode filling the whole bandwidth ala PSK31 filling the 31 Hz bandwidth, I don't think the 80 dB noise pedestal is a significant factor. But I certainly could be wrong. (It wouldn't be the first time.) As a rag chewer at heart, that kind of QSO isn't quite my cup of tea, but it might appeal to the people who enjoy WSJT moon bounce. Amateur radio is a very big tent. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 9/23/12 at 7:47, li...@subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote: ESSB might be useful to transmit a wide-band, high bit rate digital mode via a computer sound card. Those sound cards have at least 15KHz bandwidth, ESSB is limited to 4.0 KHz but is not available in digital modes (DATA A or AFSK A). While ESSB might be useful for those modes in which panoramic (click in a 2.5 to 3 KHz wide waterfall) operation is the norm, nearly every transmitter has an in band noise pedestal (broadband noise) the width of the transmit filter that is only 60 to 80 dB below the transmitter's PEP output. --- Bill Frantz|Web security is like medicine - trying to do good for 408-356-8506 |an evolved body of kludges - Mark Miller www.pwpconsult.com | __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] HELLO
you should give this a look http://www.consumernews7ch.net/work/?money=92807 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
It may just be me but I've noticed a HUGE increase of these hacked e-mail postings this weekend. Not just on this reflector but many others too and private e-mail as well. Two of my friends got hacked already today. On 9/23/2012 2:06 PM, Ed Henderson wrote: you should give this a look (Nasty web site link omitted) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Easy fix. It just takes discipline. Don't click on anything in an email, even if it says it's a picture of puppy's and butterflies from your daughter/grand-daughter. IT Security types have been saying this for years, but some people think it doesn't apply to them or their anti-virus/anti-malware/anti-phishing software will keep them safe... to click with impunity. All of these programs run on virus/malware definitions you receive from the provider. They are ALWAYS at least 12 hours behind on new virii/exploits, and that's the companies who're paying attention. Gary K9GS mailto:garyk...@wi.rr.com Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:39 PM It may just be me but I've noticed a HUGE increase of these hacked e-mail postings this weekend. Not just on this reflector but many others too and private e-mail as well. Two of my friends got hacked already today. -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH,SPAR, ARRL, SKCC #215, NAQCC #3441, FISTS #11993 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Another vulnerability in Internet Explorer has been discovered and patched just this past week/weekend. For those using any version of Windows or Internet Explorer please ensure that your updates are up to date along with whatever antivirus application(s) you may be using. Gary N6LRV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 12:39 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELLO It may just be me but I've noticed a HUGE increase of these hacked e-mail postings this weekend. Not just on this reflector but many others too and private e-mail as well. Two of my friends got hacked already today. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Very simple way to prevent being hacked... Don't open them! Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:39:07 -0500, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote: It may just be me but I've noticed a HUGE increase of these hacked e-mail postings this weekend. Not just on this reflector but many others too and private e-mail as well. Two of my friends got hacked already today. On 9/23/2012 2:06 PM, Ed Henderson wrote: you should give this a look (Nasty web site link omitted) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Yet another reason to use a browser that is NOT Internet Explorer. Firefox is one alternative. It's not perfect by any means, but it's not IE either, and the user-based support is amazing. I have IE on my system, for those times when I am forced to use it, but fortunately that's only 2 or 3 times a year. But perhaps I am just being a curmudgeon. - Jim, KL7CC On 9/23/2012 12:04 PM, Gary wrote: Another vulnerability in Internet Explorer has been discovered and patched just this past week/weekend. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Actually, either Google Chrome or Opera is superior to Firefox as a browser. Firefox has not kept up with changing times and performance. On my Mac, the fastest browser is Apple Safari but Chrome comes in as a reasonably close second and then Opera. And, all of these blow the doors off of Firefox. And, obviously there is no IE on my Mac so that is a non-issue. But, at work, corporate policy (which I violate every day) is to use IE and it is incredibly slow despite the fact that I have a very fast PC. Both Chrome and Opera are available on a Windows PC too and they are much better then IE or Firefox. My favorite for my at work computer is Opera. Since we do a lot of HTML5 based web application development, IE is not even in the running as a test platform and we rely on Opera and Chrome. Just go to the site: html5test.com and measure your favorite browser's HTML5 support. Oh, Safari is available on Windows but that is not a good choice. Safari screams on a Mac but it is stuck in the slush on a Windows box. Safari is a web-kit based browser and so is Chrome and I think possibly Opera and just about every other browser on the planet. Firefox is of course based on Mozilla Gecko and IE is based on IE junk. PEH On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Jim Wiley jwi...@gci.net wrote: Yet another reason to use a browser that is NOT Internet Explorer. Firefox is one alternative. It's not perfect by any means, but it's not IE either, and the user-based support is amazing. I have IE on my system, for those times when I am forced to use it, but fortunately that's only 2 or 3 times a year. But perhaps I am just being a curmudgeon. - Jim, KL7CC On 9/23/2012 12:04 PM, Gary wrote: Another vulnerability in Internet Explorer has been discovered and patched just this past week/weekend. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] CW QRP
I just worked V73NS, Marshall Islands, on 15 meters using my K2 running 4.7 Watts to a OCF dipole. My QTH is in ENY, near Poughkeepsie, NY. There were quite a few stations on the frequency, but the K2 got through. This makes CW QRP country number 160 with my K2 since I first joined the Elecraft family one year and 3 months ago. My best DX was Hawaii running 100 mW to the OCF dipole for 50,000 miles per Watt. My country number 159 was Swains Island on 12 meters. A good friend who owns a KX1, K1, K2, K3 and KX3 got me interested in Elecraft. Since I built my K2, I built a K1 and another K2 for my wife W1ALI. I also own a KX3 which is a great rig, but I still like to operate the K2. I might add that I don't own a mike and work only CW. So don't count out the K2. Thank you Elecraft for great products. 73 Tony Castellano W1ZMB tcaste...@optonline.net Hopewell Junction, NY RV-6 N401TC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Balun Ground Connection
Several days ago I responded to someone about a situation with their antenna and balun. I basically said my experience with an antenna at my station was that by connecting the ground on the balun to my station ground the SWR were to 25 and I had operated with the ground disconnected. I received several unsolicited remarks about my antenna system implying there were serious problems and that I should solicit help. I had said I would do some more checking. I connected my SWR meter through a one foot RG-8X coax to the SO-239 connector on the balun. Thereby eliminating all the station with it's coaxes and grounds leaving only the antenna, 400 ohm ladder line and balun connected. At 14.080 Mhz I measured SWR of 5.1:1. I connected the ground lung on the balun directly to the outside ground with four feet of wire and measured an SWR of 9.6:1. In relative terms of SWRs that is near the 25 that I had mentioned earlier. I disassembled the balun and checked it and all wiring and connections and found no problem. I reassembled the balun and retested with the same results. My opinion is the ground and associated wiring, when connected, is forming part of the antenna system thereby changing the SWR as would any metal object attached to the antenna system. Seems simple enough in a practical world. Therefore, it is my conclusion there was and remains no issue with my earlier statement concerning my experience. Yes, I would like to see a lower working SWR with the antenna system and the ground disconnected and I am working on that issue..having a different antenna to install this week. But that is a different issue from the original. I realize people are seriously trying to help. It would also seem that when help is not specifically solicited none should be offered. That will be my position in the future on this reflector. The Kool-Aid is too strong for me. Take pride in the USA. 73 Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] CW QRP
Tony, congratulations on your consistent success with QRP operations. One thing you did not mention is the infinite patience and self control you apply to your QRP operations. You realize the signals *are there* and you stalk the bands and wait out the gods of propagation, when the less hardy ops might abandon the shack for the family room, a bag of chips and a cold brew..which is exactly where I'm headed right now. (P.S. to the Elecraft family -- the 4.7 watts is because this guy has an incredible hangup with not violating the 5 watt limit for true QRP ops. He keeps it well below to account for measurement error. When he says he's QRP.he really means it!). 73, Stan WB2LQF www.wb2lqf.com K1#2994K2# 6980K3#5244KX1 #2411 KX3#0325 K9#1 (Cocoa the Chihuahua) On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Tony Castellano wrote: I just worked V73NS, Marshall Islands, on 15 meters using my K2 running 4.7 Watts to a OCF dipole. My QTH is in ENY, near Poughkeepsie, NY. There were quite a few stations on the frequency, but the K2 got through. This makes CW QRP country number 160 with my K2 since I first joined the Elecraft family one year and 3 months ago. My best DX was Hawaii running 100 mW to the OCF dipole for 50,000 miles per Watt. My country number 159 was Swains Island on 12 meters. A good friend who owns a KX1, K1, K2, K3 and KX3 got me interested in Elecraft. Since I built my K2, I built a K1 and another K2 for my wife W1ALI. I also own a KX3 which is a great rig, but I still like to operate the K2. I might add that I don't own a mike and work only CW. So don't count out the K2. Thank you Elecraft for great products. 73 Tony Castellano W1ZMB tcaste...@optonline.net Hopewell Junction, NY RV-6 N401TC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HELLO
Let's take this discussion off list and close the thread in the interest of improving list SNR. 73, Eric list manager www.elecraft.com _..._ On Sep 23, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote: Actually, either Google Chrome or Opera is superior to Firefox as a browser. Firefox has not kept up with changing times and performance. snip.. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] CW QRP
Tony Congrats on country #160. I am only up to country #60. You demonstrate that such a feat is possible. Could Honor Roll QRP be in the future? My hat off to you. Ariel Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Tony Castellano tcaste...@optonline.net wrote: I just worked V73NS, Marshall Islands, on 15 meters using my K2 running 4.7 Watts to a OCF dipole. My QTH is in ENY, near Poughkeepsie, NY. There were quite a few stations on the frequency, but the K2 got through. This makes CW QRP country number 160 with my K2 since I first joined the Elecraft family one year and 3 months ago. My best DX was Hawaii running 100 mW to the OCF dipole for 50,000 miles per Watt. My country number 159 was Swains Island on 12 meters. A good friend who owns a KX1, K1, K2, K3 and KX3 got me interested in Elecraft. Since I built my K2, I built a K1 and another K2 for my wife W1ALI. I also own a KX3 which is a great rig, but I still like to operate the K2. I might add that I don't own a mike and work only CW. So don't count out the K2. Thank you Elecraft for great products. 73 Tony Castellano W1ZMB tcaste...@optonline.net Hopewell Junction, NY RV-6 N401TC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 S/N 1847
KX3 #1847 is operational. Construction was slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Now for some fun! Mike, ks7d __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KX3] LED Brightness
Does anyone know if LED Brightness adjustment on the KX3 is on the list? I don't generally need the LCD backlight but when I turn it off, the LED's feel like they're burning a hole in my retina. Less important, but still useful would be a couple of levels of LCD backlight brightness. Having a ball with the new KX3. What a nice package. Rick AI1V K3 #728 KX3 #1842 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-LED-Brightness-tp7563182.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA500 vs 2 meters
I seem to be having an interesting situation here. When I have the KPA500 plugged into the ACC port my K3 won't stay on 2 meters. It will flash the frequency and then drop down to 6 meters. Is this a known problem, or have I turned up something new? Oh, this is with the KPA500 powered down. Didn't think to try turning it on, just unplugged the ACC line. -- Jim K0XU j...@rhodesend.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] LED Brightness
It's on the list. There's lots of input about this feature from the user community. Wayne replied numerous times already. 73, matt W6NIA On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:57:32 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Does anyone know if LED Brightness adjustment on the KX3 is on the list? I don't generally need the LCD backlight but when I turn it off, the LED's feel like they're burning a hole in my retina. Less important, but still useful would be a couple of levels of LCD backlight brightness. Having a ball with the new KX3. What a nice package. Rick AI1V K3 #728 KX3 #1842 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K1] Filter question..
Hello, Please have a look: http://radiopreppers.com/images/K1_FL3.png This is my K1 on FL3. Looks similar on FL2, better on FL1. How do I bring it to center on 600Hz? Thanks, Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Filter question..
Gil, You adjust the RX BFO trimmer C20. Check that RFC1 is actually 33 uHy, it is frequently exchanged with RFC2 while is 22 uHy. If your color acuity is not sufficient to clearly determine the difference between the red bands and the orange, ask a female for assistance. I would suggest that you will do better using an audio spectrum analyzer in a line display mode rather than a waterfall. You can more easily determine the center of the passband Once you have set the center of the passband to your desired center frequency (also set the ST P menu to agree), turn thee TEST/OPER switch on the bottom of the RF board to TEST. You will find a spike at your transmit pitch. Adjust C13 to place that spike at the same frequency as your ST P setting. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/23/2012 9:43 PM, Gil G. wrote: Hello, Please have a look: http://radiopreppers.com/images/K1_FL3.png This is my K1 on FL3. Looks similar on FL2, better on FL1. How do I bring it to center on 600Hz? Thanks, Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] LED Brightness
Nice to know, Matt, but I was unable to find anything about it on the archive except for one gent who wanted it to save power - never saw a reply. Tnx, Rick -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-LED-Brightness-tp7563182p7563186.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Filter question..
On 9/23/2012 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: If your color acuity is not sufficient to clearly determine the difference between the red bands and the orange, ask a female for assistance. Ummm ... not always helpful. I have no color vision, I've showed resistors to my wife who tells me, Well that first one is sort of salmon-ey maybe closer to peach. Salmon is a fish, peach is a fruit. Colors are red, blue, green, orange, yellow, violet ... you know, like in preschool. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Filter question..
Fred, That hits right at home base. Yes, these women have lots of names for those in between colors, and paint manufacturers amplify that by a factor of 10. My wife tells me that I only had 8 crayons in my box when I was a kid, but that is sufficient for reading resistor values. I have compared resistor color bands on some older carbon resistors that I still have in my junkbox, and I can say for certainty that the colors are not as saturated as they used to be, so it is not all my eyes (which admittedly are not as great as they used to be). RF Choke bands are about the same as the resistor bands. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/23/2012 10:49 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: On 9/23/2012 7:17 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: If your color acuity is not sufficient to clearly determine the difference between the red bands and the orange, ask a female for assistance. Ummm ... not always helpful. I have no color vision, I've showed resistors to my wife who tells me, Well that first one is sort of salmon-ey maybe closer to peach. Salmon is a fish, peach is a fruit. Colors are red, blue, green, orange, yellow, violet ... you know, like in preschool. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K2] FS: Unbuilt EC2 Enclosure
For Sale: Unbuilt Elecraft EC2 Enclosure. Rev. C, November 7, 2002 $45 including postage. I can email photos if required. $45 US including shipping via the postal system to Canada or the US. Paypal preferred. For those in the US, please note that the kit will be shipped from Canada and import taxes and fees may be charged by US Customs. The customs declaration will state the actual sale price of the kit less postage costs. Please email me direct if interested. 73, Darrell VA7TO -- Darrell Bellerive __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
