Re: [Elecraft] "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message
Dick For it to lock your computer totally it is usually a problem in the driver area and I would suspect a problem with the USB to RS232 interface if that is what you are using. I know proper RS232 ports are rare these days but you may consider a PCI express type RS232 port. After some frustration with similar problems over the years I have made them go away by not using the USB to RS232 solutions, some of them just seem a little sensitive to RF despite common mode chokes. Not much help but just a thought. Regards. Roger VK3ADE. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of r...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:26 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message Hi Guys, Hoping someone can help me fix the following problem which is driving me crazy: For the past couple of years, on the top of the N1MM Logger screen, I often get the message "K3 VFO A not responding. When I get this message my computer is locked up and I'm unable to log or transmit. A very bad problem to have when running stations during a contest. The problem seems to occur aprx. every 15 minutes when operating RTTY and aprx. every 30 minutes on CW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message
Usually when a computer locks up it is not the fault of equipment that is connected to the computer. It is usually a problem with software that is running on the computer. Since you are controlling the K3 with a software application, the software is the first place you should look for the problem. Have you contacted the N1MM Logger folks to ask for help? That would be the first thing I would do. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Wed, 1 May 2013 01:25:59 -0400 (EDT), r...@aol.com wrote: >Hi Guys, > >Hoping someone can help me fix the following problem which is driving me >crazy: > >For the past couple of years, on the top of the N1MM Logger screen, I often > get the message "K3 VFO A not responding. When I get this message my >computer is locked up and I'm unable to log or transmit. A very bad problem >to have when running stations during a contest. The problem seems to occur >aprx. every 15 minutes when operating RTTY and aprx. every 30 minutes on CW. > >People have told me "you have RF getting into your system. So for the >past 2 years I've been putting double chokes on every cable connected to the >K3 > and logging computer. And I endlessly keep working on grounding all of my > equipment better. When the problem didn't get fixed, I replaced all of >the cables but that didn't help either. > >I've tried 4 different Windows XP computers, and 2 different Windows 7 >computers. All computers have given me about the same number of "K3 VFO A >Not >Responding" error messages, except for my Office computer which runs >Windows 7 and has a Quad Core processor, this computer will often operate a >couple hours before giving me the dreaded ""K3 VFO A Not Responding" message. > >(so that's much better than the other computers) > >A few other thoughts: > >-I've received these error messages whether running 100 watts or 1,500 >watts so I'm not sure high power is the problem. > >-I've had the dreaded "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message occur while >receiving, though it usually occurs while I'm transmitting. So I'm not sure >transmitting causes the problem. > >So I'm wondering if the problem could be with the K3? Perhaps I should >try a different brand radio to see if the problem goes away. > >Has anyone else frequently had this terrible "K3 VFO A Not Responding" >message occur to you? > >Thank You in advance for your recommendations. > >73, >Dick- K9OM > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message
Hi Guys, Hoping someone can help me fix the following problem which is driving me crazy: For the past couple of years, on the top of the N1MM Logger screen, I often get the message "K3 VFO A not responding. When I get this message my computer is locked up and I'm unable to log or transmit. A very bad problem to have when running stations during a contest. The problem seems to occur aprx. every 15 minutes when operating RTTY and aprx. every 30 minutes on CW. People have told me "you have RF getting into your system. So for the past 2 years I've been putting double chokes on every cable connected to the K3 and logging computer. And I endlessly keep working on grounding all of my equipment better. When the problem didn't get fixed, I replaced all of the cables but that didn't help either. I've tried 4 different Windows XP computers, and 2 different Windows 7 computers. All computers have given me about the same number of "K3 VFO A Not Responding" error messages, except for my Office computer which runs Windows 7 and has a Quad Core processor, this computer will often operate a couple hours before giving me the dreaded ""K3 VFO A Not Responding" message. (so that's much better than the other computers) A few other thoughts: -I've received these error messages whether running 100 watts or 1,500 watts so I'm not sure high power is the problem. -I've had the dreaded "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message occur while receiving, though it usually occurs while I'm transmitting. So I'm not sure transmitting causes the problem. So I'm wondering if the problem could be with the K3? Perhaps I should try a different brand radio to see if the problem goes away. Has anyone else frequently had this terrible "K3 VFO A Not Responding" message occur to you? Thank You in advance for your recommendations. 73, Dick- K9OM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
That looks like Plasma TV noise to me Fred. It's very, very broad band since it's basically just arc-generated RF noise from each pixel radiated through the TV screen. The level and distribution across the RF spectrum varies according to the information being displayed on the TV. Some have asked if it "tunes". If you have a bad I.F. cable between the K3 and P3, it may well pick up more of the noise than your antenna, so that's a good place to start. You might knock it down a lot if that cable has a defective ground. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:45 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature OK, I think I posted the screen shots at www.foothill.net/~andreaj/QRN.html I think the capitalization may be important. For all who replied, this is external noise, it appears instantaneously, usually not on weekdays during the day, sometimes on weekends earlier, and usually around 1600-1700 local. The big peaks drift slowly, often stop and are steady. There's a harmonic pattern to it, a wide fundamental, and increasingly narrow and closer spaced "harmonics". It's now 1945 local, and the P3 trace is below the baseline again. The noise may have continued to move up in frequency, or gone away. If it one of my neighbors' TV's, they must go to bed fairly early. :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K-Line engraved face plates
I now have all my face plates engraved with my callsign and name which personalise my station. For those who have not had them done, please consider asking Ken WB2ART for a quotation. The quality is excellent and he goes out of his way to provide a great service. I have no pecuniary interest in Ken's business, just a very, very happy customer. 73 Gary -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
OK, I think I posted the screen shots at www.foothill.net/~andreaj/QRN.html I think the capitalization may be important. For all who replied, this is external noise, it appears instantaneously, usually not on weekdays during the day, sometimes on weekends earlier, and usually around 1600-1700 local. The big peaks drift slowly, often stop and are steady. There's a harmonic pattern to it, a wide fundamental, and increasingly narrow and closer spaced "harmonics". It's now 1945 local, and the P3 trace is below the baseline again. The noise may have continued to move up in frequency, or gone away. If it one of my neighbors' TV's, they must go to bed fairly early. :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
On 4/30/2013 6:06 PM, Bill wrote: I had problems with non-moving patterns that resembled yours. When you tune the VFO, do the peaks move - or are they static and do not move when the VFO moves? No. I had that problem, very narrow signals that moved as I tuned, couldn't get to them. Fixed with a new cable from, who else? Elecraft. This isn't there during the day, except sometimes on weekends. When it comes, it's like a switch. It happens when I'm the only one home and I haven't turned on our Panasonic LCD TV. It's now 1930 local and it has either gone away, or moved somewhere else. It does move, slowly. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
I had problems with non-moving patterns that resembled yours. When you tune the VFO, do the peaks move - or are they static and do not move when the VFO moves? If they do not move, replace the BNC patch cable between the P3 and the K3. I had patterns showing on 75 meters during the day when there should be nothing. When I replaced the cable with one of my own craftsmanship - the problems went away. Now the P3 works fine. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Firmware for KXB30
Clark, I was not aware that there were 2 revisions of the KXB30 board. I have dealt with a number of KX1s with the KXB30 installed, and have found no difference in performance. I am a bit puzzled by your subject line. There is no relationship to firmware with the KXB30 board, either 1.01 or 1.02 will work just fine. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2013 8:29 PM, engineercm wrote: I have two of these boards: Rev. B and Rev B1. I can't see what the difference is but assume the B1, being newer, must have fixed something. The Rev B board is actually cleaner and better built. What would be the downside of using the B? I guess I could try it and see... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Firmware for KXB30
I have two of these boards: Rev. B and Rev B1. I can't see what the difference is but assume the B1, being newer, must have fixed something. The Rev B board is actually cleaner and better built. What would be the downside of using the B? I guess I could try it and see... 72, Clark WU4B -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX1-Firmware-for-KXB30-tp7572962p7573290.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
On 4/29/2013 8:55 PM, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: Fred, Please send me your P3 screenshot. www.foothill.net/~andreaj/QRN.html Hope this works, it does for me but that usually means nothing. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 2013 NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Announcement
The NJQRP Club is announcing the Second Annual " Skeeter Hunt". The objective is to get QRPers out of their shacks for the day; and into the fresh air and sunshine, to spread their wings and fill the airwaves with "Skeeters". While commercial equipment can certainly utilized, bonus multipliers will be awarded for those who personally home brewed their own or kit built their own equipment (equipment not built by the operator would not count as either home brewed or kit built - it would be considered commercial equipment). This year, the event is to be held on Sunday August 11th. It will be a four hour sprint - from 17:00 UTC to 21:00 UTC (1:00 TO 5:00 PM EDT). The theme for this year is "bodies of water". We all know that Skeeters love the water. While we dont want you going anywhere near actual Skeeter breeding grounds, we encourage operating near any local rivers, brooks, creeks, lakes, ponds, reservoirs, or even near a bay or the sea shore! Please make sure to take pictures and tell us about it in your Soapbox comments. (Bird baths, swimming pools, old tires filled with water, buckets, Dixie cups, etc. will NOT count for the contest!) Stations who wish to be designated as "Skeeters" can get a Skeeter number by requesting one by sending an e-mail to w...@arrl.net Please let me know if you intend to operate from a state other than your home state as listed on QRZ. Skeeter numbers will be issued from May through the day before the event. The official Website for the NJQRP Skeeter Hunt is http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/ Station Classes and Multipliers X1 Home stations - commercial equipment X2 Home stations - home brewed or kit built equipment X3 Portable station - commercial equipment X4 Portable station - home brewed or kit built equipment Portable stations cannot use permanent antennas, i.e you can't work from your backyard, hook up to your dipole or tower and yagi and be considered a portable station. Also, portable stations cannot be connected to the local power grid - alternative energy sources must be used - solar, battery, wind, etc. Multi-Op Stations: - Great idea! Want to get together with some of your best buds to have a barbeque and hunt some Skeeters? FB deal, OM! When you send in your log, send the calls of everyone who participated under that call and or Skeeter number. And remember to send pictures of your group for the soapbox! Suggested Call - Either CQ QRP or CQ BZZ Exchange - Skeeter Stations - RST, S/P/C, Skeeter number Non-Skeeter Stations - RST, S/P/C, Output power Modes CW, SSB (new for this year!) Power - 5W max CW, 10 Watts max SSB Scoring - Working a Skeeter Station - 2 points Working a non-Skeeter Station - 1 point Work a WAE station - 3 points - Yes! The Worked All Europe contest (CW) is the same day - working DX stations (different continent) will get you extra points! Total score equals the number of QSO points times the number of S/P/Cs worked on all bands (stations can be worked on multiple bands for QSO points and S/P/C credit) times the multiplier for station class. For example, if you work W2LJ on 20 and 40 Meters, it counts as 2 QSOs and NJ counts for a S/P/C on each band. Bonus points An extra 500 points can be added to your score if you operate near a lake, stream, river, pond, beach, etc. as stated above Please send a photo of your set up, along with your log submission in order to claim points. Suggested frequencies: The QRP "Watering Holes" For CW 80 Meters ~ 3.560 MHz 40 Meters ~ 7.040 and 7.030 MHz - also consider using from 7.114 to 7.122 MHz for a "slower" speed CW area. We want to have everyone involved! 20 Meters ~ 14.060 MHz 15 Meters ~ 21.060 MHz 10 Meters ~ 28.060 MHz For SSB 80 Meters ~ 3.985 MHz 40 Meters ~ 7.285 MHz 20 Meters ~ 14.285 MHz 15 Meters ~ 21.385 MHz 10 Meters ~ 28.885 MHz These are suggested starting points, of course. Feel free to spread out and give your "Skeeter" wings a chance to do their thing. Categories: CW Only and SSB Only, or Mixed Operating will be considered separate categories. Please indicate with your log summary which category you are participating as. Log summaries, photos and soapbox comments can be sent to w...@arrl.net no later than 14 days after the event. Certificates will be issued to the top scorers of each category as well as others to be determined. Here's an example of a summary that should be used: Larry - W2LJ - NJ Skeeter #4 - All CW Skeeter QSOs - 23 Non-Skeeter QSOs - 5 DX QSOs - (if any) S/P/Cs - 18 Station Class Multiplier X4 Claiming Bonus - No If you send me all that information, I will figure out your score for you. Hope to hear and work all of you during this year's event. Special thanks to the NJQRP club for their sponsorship! 72 de Larry W2LJ QRP - When you care to send the very least! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: h
[Elecraft] 6 m reception comparing with KX3
Hello Group, Apparently, KX3 has extra pre-amp gain in 6m. Does this mean that KX3 has a better ear in 50Mhz? In other words, unlike K3, KX3 does not require a PR-6 to reach the required sensitivity. Is my understanding correct? Thanks for advice in advance. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
Some great ideas and suggestions coming back, I would be in favour of the mouse coming off the USB port on the P3. This does not tie up the PC's performance but this would involve 2 mice! Which for me is not a problem the PC mouse can run N1MM and the other mouse and search and pounce me around the contest. I have 3 24 inch flat screen monitors. One for the P3, one for the contest programs and the final monitor for MRP40 CW decode (for the 40wpm plus contesters), Google and so on. I hope those at Elecraft consider this idea. Mike VE3WDM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-point-and-click-with-mouse-tp7573259p7573286.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
Yes. That is the way I would like to see it work. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:16:04 +0100, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" wrote: >OOH, yes please >73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
OOH, yes please 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) -- Unix is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie On 30 Apr 2013, at 17:51, Ian White wrote: > For the record, I believe that the feature being requested is to QSY > VFOA with a left-click, and VFOB separately with a right-click, using a > mouse plugged into the USB port of the P3SVGA (as an alternative to a > keyboard or the USB drive). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Connector woes
[I modified the subject slightly adding "K2"] Personally, I would put a small tag inside to remind me that they're backwards, and leave it be. You can always get a new P3 from Elecraft Parts. Related subject: If you have the KAT2, it **is** possible to plug the KAT2 RF input cable into the 12V connector. This will ground the 12V supply, and if you're foolishly using a non current-limited supply as I was [unfused LiFePO4 pack, good for about 40-50 amps into a short], the primary 12V trace will simulate a fuse in about 2ms. My battery is now fused at about 125% of the K2's maximum load, and I painted the RF plug and socket body black. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org On 4/29/2013 8:39 PM, Tyler Barnett wrote: The previous owner of my K2 who built it, put the main-board P3 and P6 connectors in backwards. That is, the index tab is facing the rear of the K2, rather than the front. Reason this came up: I was finishing up the internal KAT2 tuner, and realized through an ohmmeter check the connector was likely backwards. A check of the K2 board layout in the manual confirmed both WERE backward. I don't know if I'll ever put the internal battery into the K2, but I'm thinking of pulling it along with P6. The KAT2 kit supplied a P6 for this purpose, but that leaves me short the P3 connector. I'm concerned that despite my best removal efforts, that I'll ruin both getting them out. Yes, I have a new solder-sucker, and an Aoyue desoldering station, but I don't know how hardy this connector is. Should I order P3 now from Elecraft, or see how it goes? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for April 28th & 29th, 2013
From So Cal, around the same time as the net (1935-2300z), I worked an OX3, ON4, YV5, DG0, IK4, and an OZ1. All with 100% copy exchanging about the same amount of information. Could have worked 20-30 W/A/N/Ks or the same number of JA's instead. All on a K2 (sn 567) on JT65A running 5 watts (and a TH7DXX at 60'). Maybe the net should move to JT65A-HF. (HI) Eric KE6US On 4/29/2013 9:04 PM, kevinr wrote: Good evening, Conditions on yesterday's nets were poor. Twenty meters had very deep QSB. NO8V was S5 one second, S1 the next, and ESP a beat later. I could get about one word in three so copying the call signs was it. W0CZ who is normally strong to me was very weak on twenty meters and only marginally better on 40 meters where he could barely copy me. On forty I heard a call and the next second they were gone. I checked to see if my antenna was still up between nets. I have been doing that a lot lately. Aren't we supposed to be near a solar peak? I was having better propagation when there were no sunspots. On to the lists => On 14050 kHz at 2200z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 On 7045 kHz at 0100z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 WI6O - John - CA - K1 - 922 K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 I stepped out my front door a moment ago only to freeze. A doe and her yearling fawn were both looking at me. I looked at them and they finally relaxed. Only then did I see the other yearling with her. That one had not moved a muscle so I did not see her. I watched them for a few minutes until it got too cold to keep holding the door open. One of these days I am going to open the door and see a herd of elk standing there. It has been a few years. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: TX-INH help please
Howdy K3' people: I am a dummy as I can not quite figure this one out. I hav a 2m LNA, the SSB-MHP-145, which MUST be switched out before any RF. The LNA does not have RF sensing. I use an SSB-ACS-2004 and an SSB-DCW-2004b, the latter of which runs the necessary 12v to the MHP-145 when the DCW-2004 is keyed/grounded on Pin-3. So I would like to make use of the K# and TX-Inhibit that I have heard so many mention. However, page 11 of the K3 tells me that pin-7 of the Daisy-Chain from K3 to the transverters can activate TX-Inhibit if Pin-7 is grounded. To me, that's not a Toggle, it's a steady state until Pin-7 is released. So all the time I am receiving/listening, TX-H must be activated. The DCW-2004 does not apply output to one of four pins until the DCW-2004b is keyed by ... something, a foot-switch; a PTT output from the K3, or something. I therefore erroneously conclude that nothing is holding TX-INH active until the DCW-2004 sequencer is itself keyed. Therefore I have to ask anyone using TX-INH to guide me through this confusing process. Kinda specialized, however I hope somebody is using it like I wish to do. thanks in advance -- 73 KD7YZ Bob http://www.qrz.com/db/KD7YZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
> >Your question is interesting. If you're in a contest you must be using a >contest program. Do you want another program running on the PC that >would require you to leave the confines of your contest program? I think >not. > No, not another program. What's being requested is a standalone function of the P3 that does not add to the complications of running existing PC software. >You would probably want the contest program to have a direct tie-in to the >P3 over the existing K3/P3 serial link. Something like holding the shift key >causes the mouse to talk to the P3. Releasing the shift key returns control to >the contest program. That could be interesting but would involve the contest >program developer(s). > No, definitely not that - for exactly the reasons you state. >I suppose the alternative is a corded or wireless USB mouse connected >directly to the back of the P3. Ah, now you're getting there! >Then you would have two mice on your desk >which is probably even less desirable during the heat of a contest (unless >you're ambidextrous). > The people requesting the function have thought the issues through. We are quietly confident that the human race can handle the Two Mouse Problem, because many of us have been doing it in the work environment for years. Also, the reasons for requesting this feature are by no means exclusively related to contesting. Any time that the mouse can you to the right frequency before you (or the other guy) could get there by spinning the knob, that's a feature worth having. It would certainly have many uses in DXing, particularly in pileups or where the band is barely open and sparsely occupied. Another example: in the big 6m Es opening this morning, I had the P3SVGA displaying the whole of the bottom 200kHz of the band, trying to identify each new amateur signal as it emerged out of the video QRM. It would have been very handy - and very much quicker - to be able to hop around the display using the mouse, instead of having to spin the dial. For the record, I believe that the feature being requested is to QSY VFOA with a left-click, and VFOB separately with a right-click, using a mouse plugged into the USB port of the P3SVGA (as an alternative to a keyboard or the USB drive). 73 from Ian GM3SEK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
If it's not found to be a TV monitor with an approximate 40 kHz horizontal sweep rate, then the next most likely will be a switching power supply that runs at 40 kHz, rich in harmonics. I'd look for LED lighting that comes on in the evening, like under-cabinet kitchen lighting, or low-voltage yard lights. I had a couple of light sensor sockets in my front and back porch lights that were radiating when the lights came on automatically in the evening. Also found an automatic coffee maker making a racket, and a switching power supply in a laser printer. You may be able to isolate it to something in your house by turning off circuit breakers in your electrical panel one at a time (or if you like to split the dictionary faster, do one-half at a time, and then cut that in half again, and again). Once you know the circuit, then you can start unplugging or turning things off or on. Having a handheld radio that picks up the noise will be helpful. Hope that helps, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message > Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature > From: Fred Jensen > Date: Mon, April 29, 2013 10:17 pm > To: Elecraft Reflector > > > I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to > get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a > series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get > narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The > higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. > > Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the > "bands" on the WF drift some before stabilizing. > > I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what > this is? I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the > evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV? > > If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do > battle with our neighbors. Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with > ours and shares his food. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 > - www.cqp.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
Thanks Jim - I should try it. I have never tried to curb it mainly because it is usually off when I'm in the shack. This is a 10 year old Panasonic set and I seem to remember reading on the RFI list a few years ago about a couple of guys trying to work on their sets. As I remember, they said the set (screen) radiated most of the RFI and that putting toroids on the AC line did not help. But you can never have enough #31's around so it won't hurt to try it here! It is getting pretty close to replacement time for this thing anyway. A much lighter (and a little bigger) LCD is in the future ;-) Thanks again & 73, Dave W8FGU On 04/30/2013 11:27 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Dave, You may be able to knock this noise source down with effective line filtering. The first thing to try is winding many turns of the AC cable around a #31 ferrite core. It won't help noise that is radiated directly by wiring inside the unit, but it can take the AC cable out of the picture. And you should also approach the manufacturer and firmly insist that they fix it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] best NR & NB settings CW/SSB (PART2)
Scott, NB attempts to deal with amplitude-based, spikey sorts of noise. It does this by limiting amplitude or gating the signal. NR attempts to deal with wideband, hiss-type noise. It does this by building filters around frequency elements that seem fairly steady over a short time. So, it is not very useful if you are already using a narrow PBT or APF filter; it works best when the passband is fairly wide. AutoNotch attempts to deal with steady, or nearly, narrow spectrum type noise, like a tuning carrier. it does this by building a notch filter around the frequency element(s) that seem fairly steady over a short time. --- The best way to understand them is to simply use them. Experiment. You won't hurt anything. Tune in a signal (W1AW code practice?) and try the different filters and their settings, noting the type of noise they seem to best deal with. Do this many times, on several bands and at different times so you can hear the widest variety of noise types and relative noise and signal levels. Try it on strong an weak signals. You will develop a feel for the types of noise that can -- and cannot -- be handled, and which tool to use to best handle it. Enjoy the ride! 73, Lyle KK7P let me word it a different way, being that no body replied to my question can someone please explain to me the different NB and NR settings and what to accomplish... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
I don't know if RFI is inversely related to price or not but my Precor unit is RFI free. If I were to go shopping for a new one I would take my K3 along and see what happens when the proposed new treadmill is running. This approach is much harder for TV because there are always so many on at the same time at the store. Wish there was a registry of makes and models of any kind of appliance listing whether they caused RFI or not. We hear occasional anecdotal reports but these are nowhere collected. David K0LUM On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: > Interesting. I have an older treadmill here (15 years+) but have not seen > that type of RFI. The bad news is that it needs to be replaced and I'll > probably have this issue with a new one. > > Good news is though that I can't work out and operate at the same time. And > the tv is usually not on if I'm in the shack unless the wife is home at the > same time. Usually not very often though. > > Amazing the sources of RFI these days. I'm still hanging on to most of my 15+ > year old appliances just to stay away from newer RFI generators. But like you > said, they can radiate over some long distances so I'm sure I'll hear my > neighbors stuff like Fred. > > Looks like I might have to pour over Jim, K9YC's RFI doc again ;-) > > 73, > Dave W8FGU > > > > On 04/30/2013 11:03 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: >> RFI... >> >> I have a very pronounced noise on my K3 (and, my Icom Pro III too) on the 80 >> meter band and it has peaks about 20KHz apart. Very broad (P3 wave form >> about 6000 Hz wide and it has slightly bell-shape) and very distinctive in >> the noise sound you hear on SSB audio. >> >> I know the source though -- it is my wife on the treadmill. You can almost >> see and hear the motors and treadmill belt moving by the subtle pulsating of >> this RFI on the K3 and P3. It is strong too -- peaks at about 40/9. And, >> as an experiment, I got into my truck with my mobile rig (Icom 706) and >> drove off. I was a quarter of a mile away by the time the signal strength >> dropped to a level that I could not hear it anymore. So, if this is the >> kind of thing bothering you it does not need to be close. >> >> The good news is that we both prefer going to LA|Fitness rather than work >> out in our little home gym so this is no longer a big issue but it still >> happens maybe a few times a month when my wife chooses to work out here. >> But, usually that is when I am at work or not on 80 meters which is almost >> always at night. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] best NR & NB settings CW/SSB (PART2)
let me word it a different way, being that no body replied to my question can someone please explain to me the different NB and NR settings and what to accomplish... or better yet a link that will help explain Scott w2ntv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
Dave, You may be able to knock this noise source down with effective line filtering. The first thing to try is winding many turns of the AC cable around a #31 ferrite core. It won't help noise that is radiated directly by wiring inside the unit, but it can take the AC cable out of the picture. And you should also approach the manufacturer and firmly insist that they fix it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
Our noise generating treadmill is a NordikTrack APEX6100xi model. I think it is at least 10 to 12 years old. 73, phil, K7PEH On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: > Interesting. I have an older treadmill here (15 years+) but have not seen > that type of RFI. The bad news is that it needs to be replaced and I'll > probably have this issue with a new one. > > Good news is though that I can't work out and operate at the same time. And > the tv is usually not on if I'm in the shack unless the wife is home at the > same time. Usually not very often though. > > Amazing the sources of RFI these days. I'm still hanging on to most of my 15+ > year old appliances just to stay away from newer RFI generators. But like you > said, they can radiate over some long distances so I'm sure I'll hear my > neighbors stuff like Fred. > > Looks like I might have to pour over Jim, K9YC's RFI doc again ;-) > > 73, > Dave W8FGU > > > > On 04/30/2013 11:03 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: >> RFI... >> >> I have a very pronounced noise on my K3 (and, my Icom Pro III too) on the 80 >> meter band and it has peaks about 20KHz apart. Very broad (P3 wave form >> about 6000 Hz wide and it has slightly bell-shape) and very distinctive in >> the noise sound you hear on SSB audio. >> >> I know the source though -- it is my wife on the treadmill. You can almost >> see and hear the motors and treadmill belt moving by the subtle pulsating of >> this RFI on the K3 and P3. It is strong too -- peaks at about 40/9. And, >> as an experiment, I got into my truck with my mobile rig (Icom 706) and >> drove off. I was a quarter of a mile away by the time the signal strength >> dropped to a level that I could not hear it anymore. So, if this is the >> kind of thing bothering you it does not need to be close. >> >> The good news is that we both prefer going to LA|Fitness rather than work >> out in our little home gym so this is no longer a big issue but it still >> happens maybe a few times a month when my wife chooses to work out here. >> But, usually that is when I am at work or not on 80 meters which is almost >> always at night. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: >> >>> Fred, >>> >>> I have a plasma tv here and that sounds close to what I see when it is on. >>> It pretty much wipes out the AM BC band and very ugly for all ham bands >>> 160-10m. I can take a snapshot with my P3 and send it to you if you'd like >>> to compare. >>> >>> Ironically, I just had a daytime RFI issue resolved here. It started a few >>> months ago. I would come home from work in the morning and listen around >>> for awhile and notice the noise would start when the sun came up. >>> Eventually, I noticed it went away at night. It was prominent on 160-20m >>> and it was only detectable on my vertical dipole. I could not hear it on my >>> doublet about 60' away. It was like very rapid lightning type pulse noise. >>> I was starting to think one of my neighbors may have installed a new solar >>> panel array. >>> >>> Long story short, I finally eliminated power sources in the house without >>> relief. I then realized that the vertical dipole was near a garden with >>> some 2-3 year old solar lights my wife put in there. Removing the lights >>> and batteries eliminated the noise. A couple of the fixtures had water in >>> them and my guess is they were the problem. Crazy to think a little solar >>> charger like that could raise so much hell ;-) >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave W8FGU >>> >>> >>> On 04/29/2013 10:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the "bands" on the WF drift some before stabilizing. I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what this is? I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV? If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do battle with our neighbors. Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with ours and shares his food. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this emai
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
On 4/29/2013 7:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. Hi Fred, If you grab some screen shots of what you're seeing using the P3 Utility, it may give some of us some ideas about possible sources. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
Interesting. I have an older treadmill here (15 years+) but have not seen that type of RFI. The bad news is that it needs to be replaced and I'll probably have this issue with a new one. Good news is though that I can't work out and operate at the same time. And the tv is usually not on if I'm in the shack unless the wife is home at the same time. Usually not very often though. Amazing the sources of RFI these days. I'm still hanging on to most of my 15+ year old appliances just to stay away from newer RFI generators. But like you said, they can radiate over some long distances so I'm sure I'll hear my neighbors stuff like Fred. Looks like I might have to pour over Jim, K9YC's RFI doc again ;-) 73, Dave W8FGU On 04/30/2013 11:03 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: RFI... I have a very pronounced noise on my K3 (and, my Icom Pro III too) on the 80 meter band and it has peaks about 20KHz apart. Very broad (P3 wave form about 6000 Hz wide and it has slightly bell-shape) and very distinctive in the noise sound you hear on SSB audio. I know the source though -- it is my wife on the treadmill. You can almost see and hear the motors and treadmill belt moving by the subtle pulsating of this RFI on the K3 and P3. It is strong too -- peaks at about 40/9. And, as an experiment, I got into my truck with my mobile rig (Icom 706) and drove off. I was a quarter of a mile away by the time the signal strength dropped to a level that I could not hear it anymore. So, if this is the kind of thing bothering you it does not need to be close. The good news is that we both prefer going to LA|Fitness rather than work out in our little home gym so this is no longer a big issue but it still happens maybe a few times a month when my wife chooses to work out here. But, usually that is when I am at work or not on 80 meters which is almost always at night. 73, phil, K7PEH On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: Fred, I have a plasma tv here and that sounds close to what I see when it is on. It pretty much wipes out the AM BC band and very ugly for all ham bands 160-10m. I can take a snapshot with my P3 and send it to you if you'd like to compare. Ironically, I just had a daytime RFI issue resolved here. It started a few months ago. I would come home from work in the morning and listen around for awhile and notice the noise would start when the sun came up. Eventually, I noticed it went away at night. It was prominent on 160-20m and it was only detectable on my vertical dipole. I could not hear it on my doublet about 60' away. It was like very rapid lightning type pulse noise. I was starting to think one of my neighbors may have installed a new solar panel array. Long story short, I finally eliminated power sources in the house without relief. I then realized that the vertical dipole was near a garden with some 2-3 year old solar lights my wife put in there. Removing the lights and batteries eliminated the noise. A couple of the fixtures had water in them and my guess is they were the problem. Crazy to think a little solar charger like that could raise so much hell ;-) 73, Dave W8FGU On 04/29/2013 10:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the "bands" on the WF drift some before stabilizing. I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what this is? I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV? If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do battle with our neighbors. Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with ours and shares his food. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailm
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
RFI... I have a very pronounced noise on my K3 (and, my Icom Pro III too) on the 80 meter band and it has peaks about 20KHz apart. Very broad (P3 wave form about 6000 Hz wide and it has slightly bell-shape) and very distinctive in the noise sound you hear on SSB audio. I know the source though -- it is my wife on the treadmill. You can almost see and hear the motors and treadmill belt moving by the subtle pulsating of this RFI on the K3 and P3. It is strong too -- peaks at about 40/9. And, as an experiment, I got into my truck with my mobile rig (Icom 706) and drove off. I was a quarter of a mile away by the time the signal strength dropped to a level that I could not hear it anymore. So, if this is the kind of thing bothering you it does not need to be close. The good news is that we both prefer going to LA|Fitness rather than work out in our little home gym so this is no longer a big issue but it still happens maybe a few times a month when my wife chooses to work out here. But, usually that is when I am at work or not on 80 meters which is almost always at night. 73, phil, K7PEH On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:29 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: > Fred, > > I have a plasma tv here and that sounds close to what I see when it is on. It > pretty much wipes out the AM BC band and very ugly for all ham bands 160-10m. > I can take a snapshot with my P3 and send it to you if you'd like to compare. > > Ironically, I just had a daytime RFI issue resolved here. It started a few > months ago. I would come home from work in the morning and listen around for > awhile and notice the noise would start when the sun came up. Eventually, I > noticed it went away at night. It was prominent on 160-20m and it was only > detectable on my vertical dipole. I could not hear it on my doublet about 60' > away. It was like very rapid lightning type pulse noise. I was starting to > think one of my neighbors may have installed a new solar panel array. > > Long story short, I finally eliminated power sources in the house without > relief. I then realized that the vertical dipole was near a garden with some > 2-3 year old solar lights my wife put in there. Removing the lights and > batteries eliminated the noise. A couple of the fixtures had water in them > and my guess is they were the problem. Crazy to think a little solar charger > like that could raise so much hell ;-) > > 73, > Dave W8FGU > > > On 04/29/2013 10:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to >> get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a >> series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get >> narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The >> higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. >> >> Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the >> "bands" on the WF drift some before stabilizing. >> >> I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what >> this is? I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the >> evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV? >> >> If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do >> battle with our neighbors. Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with >> ours and shares his food. >> >> 73, >> >> Fred K6DGW >> - Northern California Contest Club >> - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 >> - www.cqp.org >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
Fred, I have a plasma tv here and that sounds close to what I see when it is on. It pretty much wipes out the AM BC band and very ugly for all ham bands 160-10m. I can take a snapshot with my P3 and send it to you if you'd like to compare. Ironically, I just had a daytime RFI issue resolved here. It started a few months ago. I would come home from work in the morning and listen around for awhile and notice the noise would start when the sun came up. Eventually, I noticed it went away at night. It was prominent on 160-20m and it was only detectable on my vertical dipole. I could not hear it on my doublet about 60' away. It was like very rapid lightning type pulse noise. I was starting to think one of my neighbors may have installed a new solar panel array. Long story short, I finally eliminated power sources in the house without relief. I then realized that the vertical dipole was near a garden with some 2-3 year old solar lights my wife put in there. Removing the lights and batteries eliminated the noise. A couple of the fixtures had water in them and my guess is they were the problem. Crazy to think a little solar charger like that could raise so much hell ;-) 73, Dave W8FGU On 04/29/2013 10:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night. I've begun to get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF. It's a series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz. The higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker. Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the "bands" on the WF drift some before stabilizing. I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what this is? I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV? If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do battle with our neighbors. Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with ours and shares his food. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
Mike is right, I use N1MM for contest logging and if you move the mouse out of the "logging box" you lose that function cus the mouse is in the wrong place...you lose the focus of the mouse. It would be nice to be able to do it another way. NF8J Paul On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Your question is interesting. If you're in a contest you must be using a > contest program. Do you want another program running on the PC that would > require you to leave the confines of your contest program? I think not. > > You would probably want the contest program to have a direct tie-in to the > P3 over the existing K3/P3 serial link. Something like holding the shift > key > causes the mouse to talk to the P3. Releasing the shift key returns control > to the contest program. That could be interesting but would involve the > contest program developer(s). > > I suppose the alternative is a corded or wireless USB mouse connected > directly to the back of the P3. Then you would have two mice on your desk > which is probably even less desirable during the heat of a contest (unless > you're ambidextrous). > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > > VE3WDM wrote > > Good morning all, just wanted to resurrect an idea that has been tossed > > around the reflector. The combination of mouse-based point-and-click > > tuning within the P3's fixed-tune mode. I am a 100% CW op and this would > > be great to have if possible. Point and click feature would be great > > during a contest situation. > > Mike > > VE3WDM > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-point-and-click-with-mouse-tp7573259p7573260.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Paul VanOveren 5911 Snow Av Alto, Mi 49302 (616) 868-7149 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem RX
Hello Don, OK thank you for the explanation, I can devote myself to the construction of "KAF2" I'll let you know of my evolution, it is always reassuring to have accurate graduations Thanks again for your help K2 # 7369 73 , Christophe F8ACF De : Don Wilhelm À : Christophe F8ACF-56 Cc : "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Envoyé le : Mardi 30 avril 2013 15h04 Objet : Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem RX Christophe, What you observe is normal if your sidetone pitch setting is 700 Hz. When using CW mode, the K2 transmit frequency will be offset from the receive frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch setting you have in the menu. If you are in CW normal, transmit will be lower, in CW reverse, it will be higher. There is no offset for SSB or RTTY modes - the transmitted carrier (suppressed) frequency will be the same as the receive carrier frequency. If you need assistance calibrating the K2 dial frequency, read the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2013 8:38 AM, Christophe F8ACF-56 wrote: > Hello list, > > I want to know if I have a problem with my K2? > > listening to the tag "DK0WCY" it is on 10.144, off if I listen with the > display of 10,144 in "CW" is OK, if I put the filter "CW FL1" I have to flunk > my reception lower than 700 hz so: 10.143.3 MHz normal? > > I stalled the display as described in the manual listening WWW 10 mhz, the > whole procedure is well spend. > > I hear both the beacon on 14.100 in "CW" and even if I put the problem FL1 > and other > > K2 is OK to transmission anything I already reported some contacts what fun! > > I still KAF2 under construction and KNB2, KSB2, KPA100 build > > thank you for your help > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100
Hi Dave, Et al, Yes a newbie and double yes the world's worse typist. sigh.. Ok I spoke to eletrctcraft last week, Friday i believe 23 April.Apparently they saying, not engraved in stone, in a month or two it SHOU*LD Be out. Pricing should around 200-400 Aproximatly ( I seem to recall more like 3-4 or so. The two meter Module [thius is less accruate, or more of a guess if you will] around/by end of summer [this is what they are shooting for] Somehwere arund 300 or so. Again not engraved in stone, so I figure say in october or so they SHOULD have either BOTH units out on the market, or the Amp out and the 2m midule almost ready to deploy. Again I am the world's worse typist and hope that this helps in somesmall way. Curious which TenTyec Amp are you consideri? IE: Make/mpodel? 73 Hanley &KD2CBV PS Looking for an elmer, are therre any outthere?? Thanks -- Original Message -- From: Dave Agsten To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:54:34 -0700 (PDT) I've been way too busy with work to keep up on the status of the KXPA100 amplifier. What's the latest? When? Price? It seems like the Elecraft website has been saying "coming soon" for way too long. I'm seriously considering the Ten-Tec amp, especially when I compare pictures of the two. It looks like Ten-Tec has more functionality built into it also. Multiple antennas and a display. 73, Dave N8AG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/517fca0ec63444a0e67f3st04vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 problem RX
Christophe, What you observe is normal if your sidetone pitch setting is 700 Hz. When using CW mode, the K2 transmit frequency will be offset from the receive frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch setting you have in the menu. If you are in CW normal, transmit will be lower, in CW reverse, it will be higher. There is no offset for SSB or RTTY modes - the transmitted carrier (suppressed) frequency will be the same as the receive carrier frequency. If you need assistance calibrating the K2 dial frequency, read the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/30/2013 8:38 AM, Christophe F8ACF-56 wrote: Hello list, I want to know if I have a problem with my K2? listening to the tag "DK0WCY" it is on 10.144, off if I listen with the display of 10,144 in "CW" is OK, if I put the filter "CW FL1" I have to flunk my reception lower than 700 hz so: 10.143.3 MHz normal? I stalled the display as described in the manual listening WWW 10 mhz, the whole procedure is well spend. I hear both the beacon on 14.100 in "CW" and even if I put the problem FL1 and other K2 is OK to transmission anything I already reported some contacts what fun! I still KAF2 under construction and KNB2, KSB2, KPA100 build thank you for your help __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
When I use my PC for PSK, the "click-to-tune" mode includes automatic fine tuning, much like the spot function of the K3. Automatic fine tuning would be a useful addition for CW, RTTY, and PSK31 modes. (I think it is unnecessary for AM and FM and not implementable for SSB.) I've been operating PSK from a easy chair in the parlor with the lap top on my lap. (The only radio control I need to access is the receive volume control on the SignaLink, and it is close to hand.) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 4/30/13 at 3:43 AM, ve3...@hotmail.com (Mike Weir) wrote: Good morning all, just wanted to resurrect an idea that has been tossed around the reflector. The combination of mouse-based point-and-click tuning within the P3's fixed-tune mode. I am a 100% CW op and this would be great to have if possible. Point and click feature would be great during a contest situation. --- Bill Frantz| "I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the 408-356-8506 | intelligence. There's a knob called "brightness", but www.pwpconsult.com | it doesn't work. -- Gallagher __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 problem RX
Hello list, I want to know if I have a problem with my K2? listening to the tag "DK0WCY" it is on 10.144, off if I listen with the display of 10,144 in "CW" is OK, if I put the filter "CW FL1" I have to flunk my reception lower than 700 hz so: 10.143.3 MHz normal? I stalled the display as described in the manual listening WWW 10 mhz, the whole procedure is well spend. I hear both the beacon on 14.100 in "CW" and even if I put the problem FL1 and other K2 is OK to transmission anything I already reported some contacts what fun! I still KAF2 under construction and KNB2, KSB2, KPA100 build thank you for your help K2 # 7369 73 , Christophe F8ACF-56 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
Hi Mike, Your question is interesting. If you're in a contest you must be using a contest program. Do you want another program running on the PC that would require you to leave the confines of your contest program? I think not. You would probably want the contest program to have a direct tie-in to the P3 over the existing K3/P3 serial link. Something like holding the shift key causes the mouse to talk to the P3. Releasing the shift key returns control to the contest program. That could be interesting but would involve the contest program developer(s). I suppose the alternative is a corded or wireless USB mouse connected directly to the back of the P3. Then you would have two mice on your desk which is probably even less desirable during the heat of a contest (unless you're ambidextrous). 73, Mike K2MK VE3WDM wrote > Good morning all, just wanted to resurrect an idea that has been tossed > around the reflector. The combination of mouse-based point-and-click > tuning within the P3's fixed-tune mode. I am a 100% CW op and this would > be great to have if possible. Point and click feature would be great > during a contest situation. > Mike > VE3WDM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-point-and-click-with-mouse-tp7573259p7573260.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 point and click with mouse
Good morning all, just wanted to resurrect an idea that has been tossed around the reflector. The combination of mouse-based point-and-click tuning within the P3's fixed-tune mode. I am a 100% CW op and this would be great to have if possible. Point and click feature would be great during a contest situation. Mike VE3WDM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html