[Elecraft] More hope for KX3 overheating

2014-08-03 Thread fredem
As promised in my previous announcement, my website has continued to evolve:
 
1) The new FAQs page -- which covers too many topics to mention here --
provides information that should be of interest to all KX3 owners.  No doubt
the most interesting information is contained in the two plots, which show
how TX efficiency varies with frequency and output power.  The variations
are surprising, and the implications are significant!  (As many KX3 owners
have already discovered, 0.5 Watts output is a practical limit for high duty
cycle TX on 6 meters using the factory heatsink.)
 
2) The Remarks page is now organized by subject matter!

--- - - - ---
 
Meanwhile, work continues in other areas:
 
1) My installation guide PDF file will be available for download in a few
weeks.  (Currently I just email it to each customer when they place an
ordered.)
 
2) Another round of independent performance testing will commence later this
month.  This will be the first formal testing of my Plus (formerly known as
Tropical) model.
 
73,
Fred  VE7FMN
http://www.ve7fmn.ca/

P.S.  Shipping may be suspended for two weeks in late August, if I'm able to
get away on holiday (vacation).




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[Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread Hans H Vollmer

Hi fellow elecrafters,

1. I am using my KX3 for the new 4-m-band (new in Germany!).
I have a problem with the band-limit. In the future there will be
a 4m-band from 69.9 to 70.5 MHz in region 1.
When sending below 70 MHz (dummyload, hi) the message band end appears.
Not so with my K3.
Would a new firmware-release help?

2. It would be nice to have a transverter IF of 10 MHz analog to the K3
for my 472 kHz-transverter. Then I have not to change PWR to 0.1 Watts
when I QSY to MW.
Would a new firmware-release help?

73 de Hans, DF5SR


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[Elecraft] K3 to IC-2KL

2014-08-03 Thread John Huffman

All -

I have a friend who would like to hook his new K3 to his Icom IC-2KL 
amplifier.  Anyone have this setup?  Might you provide the specific 
cabling needed to make them work together?  He's not wanting band 
tracking, just the basic setup.


Thanks in advance,
73 de K1ESE
John


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread David Pratt
Where have you read that, Hans?  Looking through the Region 1 papers and also 
the agenda for WRC-15 I can find no reference to the 4 metre band.  The only 
thing that could affect the K3/KX3 would be the band within 5250 and 5450 kHz. 
At present the K3/KX3 will only transmit up to 5420kHz.   For a future WRC 
there is a possibility that top band will be extended down to 1800 kHz again to 
bring the band in line with Regions 2  3.

David G4DMP

On 3 Aug 2014 14:45, Hans H Vollmer hans.h.voll...@t-online.de wrote:

 1. I am using my KX3 for the new 4-m-band (new in Germany!). 
 I have a problem with the band-limit. In the future there will be 
 a 4m-band from 69.9 to 70.5 MHz in region 1. 
 When sending below 70 MHz (dummyload, hi) the message band end appears. 
 Not so with my K3.
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2014-08-03 Thread Kevin

Good Morning,
   Thunder and lightning with no rain is causing some worry.  Fire 
danger rose past high this week.  The forecast is for more sun, more 
wind, and little moisture; our normal morning fog has been absent 
recently.  But on a better note the sun is gradually becoming more 
active.  More sun spots and the solar flux has been steadily rising.  
Conditions on 20, 30, and 40 meters have been better this week.


Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] KE7X KAT500 Book

2014-08-03 Thread wb6rse1
If you have a hard copy of the KE7X KAT500 Book - please contact me off list.

Thanks!

Steve WB6RSE
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[Elecraft] P3

2014-08-03 Thread anelson
Has anyone hooked the P3 to an Icom  IC-7600?
I also have the K3 and would like to share it on the IC-7600

73

Arlon Nelson W0TUP
North Dakota

My designated driver is 12BY7A
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2014-08-03 Thread Alan Bloom
I believe the IC-7600 does not have an IF output connector, so it won't 
work with an external panadapter.


Alan N1AL


On 08/03/2014 10:22 AM, anel...@min.midco.net wrote:

Has anyone hooked the P3 to an Icom  IC-7600?
I also have the K3 and would like to share it on the IC-7600

73

Arlon Nelson W0TUP
North Dakota

My designated driver is 12BY7A
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Hans,

Firmware release 4.81 added 10 MHz and 18 MHz to the transverter IF band 
selections.
If you are running an earlier version, upgrade and you should have that 
selection.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/3/2014 9:45 AM, Hans H Vollmer wrote:



2. It would be nice to have a transverter IF of 10 MHz analog to the K3
for my 472 kHz-transverter. Then I have not to change PWR to 0.1 Watts
when I QSY to MW.
Would a new firmware-release help?



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[Elecraft] PA Mode functionality

2014-08-03 Thread Howard Hoyt

Hi all,

I talked with Wayne at Dayton regarding changing the KX3 PA Mode function to 
automatically enable when the KXPA100 was attached, and disable when it was not.  Maybe 
just add another menu selection AUTO ?

Can anyone think of a downside to doing this?

Howie - WA4PSC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-2KL

2014-08-03 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi John,
Have him have a look at K-Line Introduction and Set Up Guide (pdf) on 
www.ke7x.com.  The basic set up for the K3-KPA500 should work for the Icom amp 
as well.  He may need to set up the K3's CONFIG:TX DELAY to make sure the amp 
switches before the K3 transmits. 
Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
PDF versions available from www.ke7x.com

KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide:
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide

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Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:13 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-2KL

All -

I have a friend who would like to hook his new K3 to his Icom IC-2KL amplifier. 
 Anyone have this setup?  Might you provide the specific cabling needed to make 
them work together?  He's not wanting band tracking, just the basic setup.

Thanks in advance,
73 de K1ESE
John


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread Dave
According to the specification, it should transmit between 69.9 and 70.6MHz. 
What mode are you using?  If it's CW then there's a problem, if FM, maybe 
that's too wide a mode to stay within the limits?


In Germany I know a couple of Amateurs have licences for 69.950MHz, or a 
nearby frequency, to transmit and, of course, in the UK we already have 
70.000 to 70.500MHz.


On the bright side, if Elecraft are shipping the 4M modules mine might be on 
its way ;-)

Dave (G0DJA)

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From: Hans H Vollmer hans.h.voll...@t-online.de

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:45 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits



Hi fellow elecrafters,

1. I am using my KX3 for the new 4-m-band (new in Germany!).
I have a problem with the band-limit. In the future there will be
a 4m-band from 69.9 to 70.5 MHz in region 1.
When sending below 70 MHz (dummyload, hi) the message band end appears.
Not so with my K3.
Would a new firmware-release help?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2014-08-03 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
Even if you manage to bring out the IC-7600's IF, the  problem is that the 
radio's  IF is around 64 MHz but the max frequency that the P3 can accept is 
about 33 MHz if I remember correctly.  Simply put, there's no easy way do 
connect a P3 to the IC-7600. (If anyone knows of a way, I'd sure like to 
hear about it.)


However, there ARE methods that will provide a much improved 
panadapter/waterfall display over what shows on the radio's screen.


There's an easy mod that uses a Mini-Circuits or other brand, two way 
splitter to bring out the IF scope signal.   You basically pull the coax 
line from the IF to the scope input on the board inside the radio and insert 
the Splitter such that one of it's outputs goes to the original scope input 
connector and the second splitter output goes to the outboard device. 
Usually a simple dongle SDR or LP-Pan  is used with a computer program for 
a much improved panadapeter  waterfall display.


Another somewhat more costly way is to use the same splitter between the 
Rx-IN  RX-OUT connector to drive something like and SDR-IQ or as I am 
doing, a QS1R  SDR receiver running SDRMAX V + Omni-Rig.  The SDR basically 
runs in parallel with the IC-7600 and Omni-Rig allows master/slave functions 
between them.  It's a lot of stuff to turn on, but you'll be rewarded with a 
spectacular screen of info.


73, Charlie k3ICH




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Subject: [Elecraft] P3



Has anyone hooked the P3 to an Icom  IC-7600?
I also have the K3 and would like to share it on the IC-7600

73

Arlon Nelson W0TUP
North Dakota

My designated driver is 12BY7A
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread Dave
Many countries have or say that they are allocating frequencies in the 4M 
band David. Whether or not discussed at IARU. I think CEPT have recognised 
that it's happening in their footnote EU9 to the CEPT agreement.


A few German stations had been given spot frequencies arround 69.950MHz to 
transmit on using something similar to our NoV system, but until the end of 
August there's an allocation of between 70.100 to 70.030MHz for German 
Amateurs.


The Four Metres Website is a good place to go for the latest news on places 
which have recently made new frequency allocations on the 4M band 
http://www.70mhz.org/


Cheers - Dave (G0DJA)

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Where have you read that, Hans? Looking through the Region 1 papers and 
also the agenda for WRC-15 I can find no reference to the 4 metre band. 
The only thing that could affect the K3/KX3 would be the band within 5250 
and 5450 kHz. At present the K3/KX3 will only transmit up to 5420kHz. For 
a future WRC there is a possibility that top band will be extended down to 
1800 kHz again to bring the band in line with Regions 2  3.


David G4DMP

On 3 Aug 2014 14:45, Hans H Vollmer hans.h.voll...@t-online.de wrote:


1. I am using my KX3 for the new 4-m-band (new in Germany!).
I have a problem with the band-limit. In the future there will be
a 4m-band from 69.9 to 70.5 MHz in region 1.
When sending below 70 MHz (dummyload, hi) the message band end appears.
Not so with my K3.


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[Elecraft] [KX3] 2 meter module caution

2014-08-03 Thread Lou Voerman W2ROW
I received the 2 meter module and installed it Friday afternoon. After
installation, it did not work - no transmit or receive. I opened the KX3 up
and discovered that the local oscillator cable had been pulled out from the
coax connector at the 2M module end. I think that when I first reassembled
the KX3 after installation, the cable was pinched between the top and bottom
halves of the KX3 and and pulled loose. There is no warning that this might
happen in the manual so I suggest you use caution. The cable is quite long
and has a lot of freedom to move and can end up pinched.

Elecraft is sending me a new cable - thanks. 

I have a temporary fix where I tack soldered the cable center conductor and
shield to the 2M module board and all is working well.


Lou   W2ROW





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 4m-Band Bandlimits

2014-08-03 Thread Dave

I thought I had got all of the typos...

70.000MHz to 70.030MHz is what I should have typed!

Dave (G0DJA)

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A few German stations had been given spot frequencies arround 69.950MHz to 
transmit on using something similar to our NoV system, but until the end 
of August there's an allocation of between 70.100 to 70.030MHz for German 
Amateurs.


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Re: [Elecraft] Auto Notch Revisited

2014-08-03 Thread David Woolley
You need to qualify LMS with for FIR adaptive filters, as least mean 
square (least squares) has a much longer history in statistics.


If I understand it, it is the simple algorithm used in (early) modem 
equalisation filters, because it is cheap to compute.  The problem with 
it in the context of this thread is that it needs a value for d(n). 
Although d(n) is confusingly defined in the actual article, I believe it 
represents the correct (desired) output of the filter.


That is easy in a digital system, where you can determine it by slicing 
the output of the filter (and possibly running forward error 
correction), but the context of this thread was the use of the 
auto-notch on voice signals.  In that case, it takes human intelligence 
to work out the general nature of the correct signal, and even then that 
doesn't give you the exact waveform.


What I guess you must be doing, for voice, is using an expected signal 
of silence (d(n) = 0) and hoping that the voice signal is sufficiently 
uncorrelated that the filter fails to converge on to it, but only onto 
the, simpler, interfering carrier(s).


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On 02/08/14 01:39, wa9fvp wrote:

If your interested in some technical stuff, there's a very good tutorial
about the LMS algorithm on the National Instruments web site.  The Fast
Block LMS is the one we used in the Hamblaster.

http://zone.ni.com/reference/en-XX/help/372357A-01/lvaftconcepts/aft_lms_algorithms/


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[Elecraft] August 3 SSB Net Results

2014-08-03 Thread Ian - Ham
We had a decent net today. Band conditions weren't as bad as they have been.
We got about 25 check-ins:

 

KM4IK   Ian  GA  K3 281

W3FPR  DonNC  K3   20

W4PFMPaul   VA  K3   1673

AC6DM DanCA  K3   4757

KN5L  John  TX   K2 7212

K4TMCary   VA  K3   3448

Wd5M  David TX   K3 6493

K4GCJ   Gary  NC  K3   1697

KF5OCU   RickTX   Icom IC-718

W7QHDKurt   AZ   K2 1538

W8OV   Dave  TX   K3 3139

KG1GEM/QRP   Tim TX   KX3 5969

WD7I Dave  WI  KX32385

W0CZKenND  K3   457

K8NUCarlOH  K3   7976

K5OAI   Sam   TX   K3   4123

N0MEU Jay  CO  KX34351

WB9JNZ/M Eric WI  Icom IC-7000

KF5YBE/M   Lee TX   Kenwood TS-480HX

W9JC Joe OH  K3   6623

NS7P/QRP   Phil OR  KX3268

N6JW/7John  OR  KX3515

K6GVW Jim CA  KX3s/n unavailable

WB5JJARay OK  K3 7877

 

Thanks to all who checked in and all who assisted with relays.  Everyone
have a great week.

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com mailto:km4ik@gmail.com 
10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
K3# 281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468

 



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Re: [Elecraft] For sale DL-1 Dummy load

2014-08-03 Thread VE3WDM
The DL-1 has been sold. 
Mike 
VE3WDM



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Re: [Elecraft] Auto Notch Revisited

2014-08-03 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
In the context of the LMS filter for FIR notch filtering and noise
cancellation, one common way to find the reference is by a simple delay of
the input signal. If the purpose is to separate voice from a sinusoid, then
one utilizes the fact that a sinusoid has a long correlation function in
time compared to voice. If the delay is longer than usual correlation time
for voice, one will get a reference for the desired signal - at least in the
correlation domain which is what counts here.

For a noise reduction filter, the delay is often shorter, as noise has short
correlation time compared to a voiced signal.



David Woolley (E.L) wrote
 The problem with it in the context of this thread is that it needs a value
 for d(n). 
 Although d(n) is confusingly defined in the actual article, I believe it 
 represents the correct (desired) output of the filter.





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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility

2014-08-03 Thread John Lally
What configuration parameters does the KX3 Utility save  Does it save the
KXFL3 configuration numbers, also, does it save the temperature compensation
data?

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

2014-08-03 Thread Dick Dievendorff
It saves everything that is affected by Parameter Initialization (EEINIT).

See KX3 Utility Help, Tab Pages, Configuration, What is saved and what is
not saved.

73 de Dick, K6KR

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What configuration parameters does the KX3 Utility save  Does it save the
KXFL3 configuration numbers, also, does it save the temperature compensation
data?

 

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[Elecraft] P3 panadapter with K2?

2014-08-03 Thread Thomas Taylor
Has anyone on this list used a P3 panadapter with the K2 transceiver?  Is it
directly plug compatible or does it need a custom interface/cable and where can
that be obtained?

Thanks, Tom  KG7CFC

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 panadapter with K2?

2014-08-03 Thread Matt VK2RQ
You'll need to add a buffer amp, at the very least, like this:
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm

Normally this would be used with a softrock rather than a P3, so I haven't 
really looked into what else might be required to integrate and make the K2 
work with the P3.

73,
Matt VK2RQ

 On 4 Aug 2014, at 7:06 am, Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Has anyone on this list used a P3 panadapter with the K2 transceiver?  Is it
 directly plug compatible or does it need a custom interface/cable and where 
 can
 that be obtained?
 
 Thanks, Tom  KG7CFC
 
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 respects and enhances the freedom of others.  
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 Tom Taylor  KG7CFC
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 KDE 4.11.2, AMD Phenom X4 955, GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Nvidia 337.19)
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 panadapter with K2?

2014-08-03 Thread Bruce Beford
 Has anyone on this list used a P3 panadapter with the K2 transceiver?  Is
 it directly plug compatible or does it need a custom interface/cable and 
 where can that be obtained?

 Thanks, Tom  KG7CFC

It is not directly plug compatible, as there is no IF output port on a
stock K2. Even with a modified K2, the P3 cannot achieve the same level of
integration that it has with the K3. To study up on a couple of different
ways to accomplish an IF output on the K2, you can read up here:

http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm

GL,
Bruce, N1RX





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't power up

2014-08-03 Thread George Thornton
I have a k3 that was working fine but now will  not power up.

I had lent the unit to someone to use at Field Day.  They reported it would not 
power up.

Going through the unit it appears  that a nut and washer has come off of one of 
the PL259 antenna plates.  A thorough internal inspection found a loose washer 
but no nut.  

There is nothing evidently wrong inside, no flashing, no sparking, no burning 
odor.  It just won't come on.

Fuse did not activate.

I am going to call the factory tomorrow but anyone have any ideas?
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