Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 and Digital Modea (KM4VX)

2015-07-23 Thread KM4VX
I have found that  the use of an inexpensive computer type fan on even low
power running behind the KX3 works well  in allowing the full use of the
digital modes, to include WSPR at 5 watts full cycle of 112 seconds. Thank
you for all the thoughtful inputs. Running WSPR  at 3 watts does not require
the fan, but at 5 watts the fan is adequate. The radio gets warms, but does
not overheat. My KX3 came with the latest heat sink from ElecraftI, have not
performed the temperature compensation mod,  and will not be buying any
after-market heat sink. 73 Ron KM4VX



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 and Digital Modea (KM4VX)

2015-07-23 Thread Fred Jensen

FWIW and don't know how this would work on a KX3 but ...

When I still had my KPA100 on my K2, and was using the K2/100 in RTTY 
contests, I stuck a brushless 12 VDC computer muffin fan to the top of 
the heat sink, blowing down, with a little tab of velcro over the PA's. 
 I have a digital thermometer with a remote sensor on a very small 
wire, and I tacked it to one of the PA transistors.  I was able to run 
in a contest at 100 W and the PA temp stayed well within limits.  The 
heat sink stayed cool to the touch.


As I said, FWIW.  I finally sold the KPA100 and use my K2 as my field 
rig with the Alex Loop and no digital now.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 7/23/2015 1:40 PM, KM4VX wrote:

I have found that  the use of an inexpensive computer type fan on even low
power running behind the KX3 works well  in allowing the full use of the
digital modes, to include WSPR at 5 watts full cycle of 112 seconds. Thank
you for all the thoughtful inputs. Running WSPR  at 3 watts does not require
the fan, but at 5 watts the fan is adequate. The radio gets warms, but does
not overheat. My KX3 came with the latest heat sink from ElecraftI, have not
performed the temperature compensation mod,  and will not be buying any
after-market heat sink. 73 Ron KM4VX


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[Elecraft] CW Skimmer Setup with K3 and KX3

2015-07-23 Thread Doug Ellmore
I suggested 196khz sound card to maximize data collection for cw
skimming...Ever see 10m open during a CW contest?  Even 196k can't handle
it all.

But yes, you can get back with less.  On the road I often just use the
internal sound card 48k from my Dell XPS12 and then throw up a 17' wire in
the tree with 2 radials.

73,
-- 
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 07:54:28 -0700
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Skimmer Setup with K3 and KX3
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On Wed,7/22/2015 10:36 AM, Doug Ellmore wrote:
 Asus Xonar U7 USB, simple stereo interface into the sound card from the
 KX3

The ASUS Xonar U5 is even less expensive, and works VERY well. I buy
from BH in NYC.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II

2015-07-23 Thread Ross Biggar
Thanks for the information about setting up the Keyer, I would never have found 
it as my unit came direct from the manufacturer.
I have 2 further questions:
(a) I have a sub rcvr in my K3 so  I assume the plug marked sub RX goes to the 
Sub Rx socket on the keyer?
(b) What does the the plug marked inhibit go to on the K3?  

Thanks 
Ross
ZL1WN
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ground Loss (long)

2015-07-23 Thread Fred Jensen
True, at least from my experience.  If you're on a pointy part of the 
Earth [aka summit such as in SOTA], the far field effects can and often 
do lower the max elevation angle to or below the apparent horizon.  Most 
antennas on summits exhibit a host of other inefficiencies as well, but 
the effect is there.  I used a vertical GP with my Buddipole on summits 
only because the horizontal OCF loaded dipole configuration was worse.


One thing that hasn't been mentioned is noise on RX.  It seems like the 
preponderance of man-made noise is vertically [more or less] polarized. 
 Until last Sunday, I had a Gap Titan on the roof.  Good antenna, very 
low SWR on all its bands. Nearly all the time, noise was 1-3 S-units 
higher than on my tribander or dipoles.  I did keep checking because 
occasionally, mainly on 12 and 10, it was lower than the TB.  Man-made 
noise may not be a problem in a remote, back-packing environment of course.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org


On 7/23/2015 4:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


For the lower frequency bands, the height of a dipole
with those characteristics is not practical for most hams and the
vertical wins hands down for DX - provided a good radial field or
elevated radials are used.

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Elecraft] Atmospheric noise increases

2015-07-23 Thread w...@msn.com
Has anyone else noticed the dramatic increase in atmospheric noise 
lately?  On 20M, 30M, and 40M especially, I see a wide-band noise source 
wandering back and forth across the bands.  At times it almost looks 
like a sine wave on the waterfall display.  The noise will vary from an 
S3 up to a 20/S9.   It is especially troublesome on the frequencies I 
use most, namely, 10.1389, 14.045, 14.070, 7045, and 7070.   With the 
antenna disconnected, the noise drops to S1 or less.


I use 3 different antennas, a Force-12 15 ft vertical about 50 feet from 
the house, a homebrew 25 ft flagpole vertical about 30 feet away and an 
inverted vee for 40M on the tower adjacent to the house fed with 450-ohm 
ladderline to a 4:1 balun at 50 feet.  All three exhibit the same 
patterns and are separated by at least 50 feet from each other.


I am using the Rocky utility connected to the I/Q output of my KX3 to a 
48KHz USB sound card input to the laptop computer.


--  W7HD KX3#6966
Licensed continuously since 1967
Now retired!
Tucson, AZ

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ground Loss (long)

2015-07-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Near field soil conditions become less of a factor with the use of 
elevated radials.  Consider a ground plane antenna with the base 
mounted at the rooftop of a 1 or 2 story building - it is reasonably 
independent of near field ground conditions because it is an antenna 
within itself - much the same as a vertical dipole.  A vertical with 
buried radials is quite dependent on ground conductivity unless the 
number of radials is large.


The far field ground conditions still do play a part and what Jim has 
pointed out below is valid.


IMHO, the main advantage of a vertical is that it has a null at the top 
of the elevation plots which will reduce the response to high angle 
reception (nearby stations).  If you look at the elevation plot for a 
horizontal dipole along with a vertical, you will see that the dipole 
has almost as much gain at low angles as the vertical - so from a pure 
gain standpoint, the vertical offers no advantage.
BUT that is comparing a vertical with a high dipole (at least 1/2 
wavelength high).  For the lower frequency bands, the height of a dipole 
with those characteristics is not practical for most hams and the 
vertical wins hands down for DX - provided a good radial field or 
elevated radials are used.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/23/2015 11:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Wed,7/22/2015 6:15 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
This suggests that ground loss is sort of an impedance-matching 
problem. Clearly, as your ground gets really bad your antenna can 
still work just fine, even better in some cases!


Hi Al,

Several observations. First, soil influences vertically polarized 
antennas in two ways.


First, loss in the soil near the antenna as the field from the antenna 
causes current flow in the ground. The result is simple I squared R 
loss, and that power does not get radiated.


Second is the reflection from the earth in the far field where the 
radiated field hits it. That reflection adds (algebraically) to the 
direct signal to form the vertical pattern. The strength of the 
combined direct signal plus reflected signal depends on the relative 
phase angle between them, which in turn is a factor of distance, the 
elevation angle, and the soil.


The second point is that conductivity is not the only soil parameter.  
There is also the dielectric constant. In EZNEC, if you open the 
Ground Description tab and right click on either Cond or Diel Const, 
you'll get a window showing a continuum of soil types from very good 
to very poor. BOTH Cond and Diel Const vary with those soil types, and 
both quantities affect how the antenna behaves.


A year or two ago, I did an extensive study of the interaction of 
vertically polarized antennas with soil of different types and at 
different mounting heights. I presented it to the Pacificon Antenna 
Forum using these slides. http://k9yc.com/VerticalHeight.pdf


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K 3 and Microham keyer II

2015-07-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Ross, do check out this link it provides configurations for
 many different softwares

Also available in Router (Help | Download Documents) and in the
appropriate interface area at www.microham-USA.com/Support.html


the manual appears to be very general and not just oriented towards
the K3.


microHAM's products are not transceiver specific thus the manual
deals with the microHAM product and assumes you have read the
Owner's Manual/Instruction Manual for your transceiver and know
how the transceiver is designed to operate.

The connectors on the transceiver specific connection cables are all
labeled to match the jack on the transceiver to which they connect.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-23 6:57 PM, bill wrote:

At 06:35 PM 7/23/2015, Ross Biggar wrote:

I have just received a Microham keyer II which


http://microham-usa.com/store/cmspage.php?page_id=16


Ross, do check out this link it provides configurations for many
different softwares
I doubt you will find a better supported piece of hardware/ software.

you will enjoy that interface ,,,  i have a MK2R +; and two digikeyers.

bill ny9h..




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 Tuning Failure

2015-07-23 Thread JeremyJones
Parts are on order.  I'll update once I have the diodes swapped.  Thanks for
the help thus far.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Intermittent Line Out Audio

2015-07-23 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

A look at the K3 schematics will reveal that none of the Line Out 
signals flow through any of the contacts on the headphone jack.
I believe your experience is just happenstance and the real source of 
your problem will be found elsewhere.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/22/2015 7:26 PM, Bill Kastler wrote:

I have had a problem for a while with intermittent Line Out audio from my K3.  
Before I send in the radio for repair, I wanted to make sure I have identified 
the problem source.  It seems to center around the front headphone jack.  With 
no line out audio, I can sometimes put my headphone plug into and out of the 
front jack and the audio comes back on.   No changes were made to programs 
(MixW, JF65-HF, etc.) or radio settings.  I have sprayed DeoxIT on the jack 
with some success but over time the fix does not seem to last long.  Currently, 
however, I have had the radio off for about the last 6 weeks and it is now 
doing just fine.  Really aggravating!  Does it make sense that the headphone 
jack is the problem?   I could not find any reference to this problem in the 
archives.  Thanks!
  



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[Elecraft] K-Line mounting

2015-07-23 Thread Paul Grigorieff
If you look at my (N1HEL) QRZ.com page, you will photos of my K-Line gear
arrayed in its bookcase structure, which is securely mounted to the
(extended) dinette table of my RV, which in turn is permanently braced and
bolted to the floor.  (The RV serves ONLY as a mobile comms van.)

The pieces sit atop non-slip rubber matting.  When I travel, I secure the
tabletop level gear (the K3/P3 on the left and my Astron on the right) by
means of bungee cords that run (a) from the front edge of the table to its
back edge, hooking into screw eyes on the front and back edges of the
table  (You can see the screw eyes in the last picture of the bunch.)
Shorter cords are used to secure the K500 and the tuner, which are on the
second level (left side) and my VHF/UHF gear, which is mounted to a plywood
board and sits on the top-left level.  For the high-levels gear, screw eyes
and S hooks on the edges of the shelves are user to anchor the bungee cords.

So far, the gear has seemed very stable under bungee control, although I
must admit that I have only run on paved roads.  It takes me 5-10 minutes
to secure everything.

  -Paul, N1HEL
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 and Digital Modea (KM4VX)

2015-07-23 Thread David Anderson
Ron, the drift reports will be a better on WSPR for you if you do the KX3 
extended temperature frequency calibration. Well worth doing it for modes that 
depend on low frequency drift like WSPR and JT65b.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

 On 23 Jul 2015, at 21:40, KM4VX ronce...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 I have found that  the use of an inexpensive computer type fan on even low
 power running behind the KX3 works well  in allowing the full use of the
 digital modes, to include WSPR at 5 watts full cycle of 112 seconds. Thank
 you for all the thoughtful inputs. Running WSPR  at 3 watts does not require
 the fan, but at 5 watts the fan is adequate. The radio gets warms, but does
 not overheat. My KX3 came with the latest heat sink from ElecraftI, have not
 performed the temperature compensation mod,  and will not be buying any
 after-market heat sink. 73 Ron KM4VX
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 and Digital Modea (KM4VX)

2015-07-23 Thread bsusb
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 03:40:22 PM KM4VX wrote:
 I have found that  the use of an inexpensive computer type fan on 
even low
 power running behind the KX3 works well  in allowing the full use of the
 digital modes, to include WSPR at 5 watts full cycle of 112 seconds. 
Thank
 you for all the thoughtful inputs. Running WSPR  at 3 watts does not
 require the fan, but at 5 watts the fan is adequate. The radio gets 
warms,
 but does not overheat. My KX3 came with the latest heat sink from
 ElecraftI, have not performed the temperature compensation mod,  
and will
 not be buying any after-market heat sink. 73 Ron KM4VX

A not so thrifty way of avoiding spending your cash on an aftermarket 
heat sink is to spend it on a KXPA100.

Yes, I know you don't need that sort of power for digital modes, but it 
does eliminate the need for a bigger heat sink on the KX3 and it 
upgrades the KX3 in case you want to run power on SSB or drive a larger 
amp to get heard in DX pileups.
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[Elecraft] OT: ARRL v. Home Depot

2015-07-23 Thread Wes (N7WS)
I see in the latest ARRL Letter that ARRL is upset with Home Depot for their 
selling of non-residential rated lighting equipment to residential customers.


Where have they been?  I wrote about a similar issue in this very forum almost 
five years ago.


http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-K3-vs-an-RFI-noisy-furnace-tt5725235.html#a5725451
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Re: [Elecraft] K 3 and Microham keyer II

2015-07-23 Thread bill

At 06:35 PM 7/23/2015, Ross Biggar wrote:

I have just received a Microham keyer II which


http://microham-usa.com/store/cmspage.php?page_id=16


Ross, do check out this link it provides configurations for 
many different softwares

I doubt you will find a better supported piece of hardware/ software.

you will enjoy that interface ,,,  i have a MK2R +; and two digikeyers.

bill ny9h..




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[Elecraft] K 3 and Microham keyer II

2015-07-23 Thread Ross Biggar
I have just received a Microham keyer II which I am keen to use with my K3.
It would really help if someone who has a Microham keyer II working with their 
K3 
would please send me details of how they did it, as the manual appears to be 
very general
and not just oriented towards the K3.

Thanks
Ross
ZL1WN


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Skimmer Setup with K3 and KX3

2015-07-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
I believe the CW skimmer is limited to 48k bandwidth, so a 196kHz 
soundcard is not necessary for CW skimmer.
OTOH, if you are also using a Panadpater application like NaP3 or 
Win4K3, that extra bandwidth will be desirable.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/23/2015 7:12 PM, Doug Ellmore wrote:

I suggested 196khz sound card to maximize data collection for cw
skimming...Ever see 10m open during a CW contest?  Even 196k can't handle
it all.

But yes, you can get back with less.  On the road I often just use the
internal sound card 48k from my Dell XPS12 and then throw up a 17' wire in
the tree with 2 radials.



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[Elecraft] [K3] Firmware Update Saga

2015-07-23 Thread graham . wood1
Hello All

I recently ordered a KRX3A and KSYN3A board for my K3. I was running firmware 
version 4.58 so I thought I'd better update it in readiness for the new 
arrivals.

The computer I use for radio is 32 bit running Win98se, it works very well with 
my homebrew logging program which integrates with the K3. I did try porting it 
to WinXP but met with problems, if it ain't broke don't fix it, so stuck with 
98se. This computer dual boots to Linux Mint12, which runs K3utils.

My internet computer is 64 bit and dual boots Win7 and Linux Mint17. I use 
Mint17 for all internet work so I downloaded the Latest Linux K3utils 
(1_14_10_24) and installed it, I tried to run it nothing happened.

After a session of 'Googling' I found that K3utils is 32 bit and needed 32 bit 
files loading to make it run on a 64 bit machine, I decided against this and 
downloaded all the .hex files, transfering these to Linux Mint12, connected the 
K3, and tried running the Util. It could not find the port displaying the 
message 'access denied'. After trying various things, without success, I went 
'Googling' again, this time I found the problem was, as the User, I  wasn't a 
member of the group 'Dialout', which gives access to serial ports on Linux, on 
joining this group the Util now worked OK.

It was Sunday afternoon with time to spare before my evening meal, I decided to 
bite the bullet and run the upgrade to 5.29. I had not updated the firmware for 
a while and could not remember how long it took. Off it went, my meal was ready 
and still it churned on and seemed to be running slower and slower, I left it, 
had my meal and came back to find it was still plodding on. It took 4400 
seconds according to the display on the Util.

With fingers crossed I turned the K3 off and on again, yippee it worked, very 
much to my relief, in view of some of the problems posted on the reflector.

The newly ordered parts arrived and were duly installed. I had to run the 
K3util to install the firmware for DSP2, this took 2200+ seconds, is this 
normal for firmware loading?

All is working FB, and getting to grips with listening to different stations in 
each ear!!

If anybody else has the same or similar problems, I hope in some way this 
helps, If nothing else it might have caused a chuckle or two.

Cheers and 73's Gray G3VIP (K3 sn:5845)
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Firmware Update Saga

2015-07-23 Thread Matt Zilmer
I'm running I3 utils from both Win7-64 and from Ubuntu 12.04. At
38,400 bps, neither of them take this long (4400, 2200 sec).

Are you operating that serial port at 4800 bps?  You could improve
your firmware load time by increasing it to 9,600, 19,200, or 38,400.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:18:14 +0100 (BST), you wrote:

Hello All

I recently ordered a KRX3A and KSYN3A board for my K3. I was running firmware 
version 4.58 so I thought I'd better update it in readiness for the new 
arrivals.

The computer I use for radio is 32 bit running Win98se, it works very well 
with my homebrew logging program which integrates with the K3. I did try 
porting it to WinXP but met with problems, if it ain't broke don't fix it, 
so stuck with 98se. This computer dual boots to Linux Mint12, which runs 
K3utils.

My internet computer is 64 bit and dual boots Win7 and Linux Mint17. I use 
Mint17 for all internet work so I downloaded the Latest Linux K3utils 
(1_14_10_24) and installed it, I tried to run it nothing happened.

After a session of 'Googling' I found that K3utils is 32 bit and needed 32 bit 
files loading to make it run on a 64 bit machine, I decided against this and 
downloaded all the .hex files, transfering these to Linux Mint12, connected 
the K3, and tried running the Util. It could not find the port displaying the 
message 'access denied'. After trying various things, without success, I went 
'Googling' again, this time I found the problem was, as the User, I  wasn't a 
member of the group 'Dialout', which gives access to serial ports on Linux, on 
joining this group the Util now worked OK.

It was Sunday afternoon with time to spare before my evening meal, I decided 
to bite the bullet and run the upgrade to 5.29. I had not updated the firmware 
for a while and could not remember how long it took. Off it went, my meal was 
ready and still it churned on and seemed to be running slower and slower, I 
left it, had my meal and came back to find it was still plodding on. It took 
4400 seconds according to the display on the Util.

With fingers crossed I turned the K3 off and on again, yippee it worked, very 
much to my relief, in view of some of the problems posted on the reflector.

The newly ordered parts arrived and were duly installed. I had to run the 
K3util to install the firmware for DSP2, this took 2200+ seconds, is this 
normal for firmware loading?

All is working FB, and getting to grips with listening to different stations 
in each ear!!

If anybody else has the same or similar problems, I hope in some way this 
helps, If nothing else it might have caused a chuckle or two.

Cheers and 73's Gray G3VIP (K3 sn:5845)
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 and Digital Modea (KM4VX)

2015-07-23 Thread Alan
I used to have fans as one of my categories back when I was employed as 
a components engineer at Hewlett Packard.  One thing I remember is that 
even a small amount of moving air makes a big difference in a heat 
sink's thermal resistance.  You don't need a huge fan.


Alan N1AL


On 07/23/2015 01:40 PM, KM4VX wrote:

I have found that  the use of an inexpensive computer type fan on even low
power running behind the KX3 works well  in allowing the full use of the
digital modes, to include WSPR at 5 watts full cycle of 112 seconds. Thank
you for all the thoughtful inputs. Running WSPR  at 3 watts does not require
the fan, but at 5 watts the fan is adequate. The radio gets warms, but does
not overheat. My KX3 came with the latest heat sink from ElecraftI, have not
performed the temperature compensation mod,  and will not be buying any
after-market heat sink. 73 Ron KM4VX



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Re: [Elecraft] Atmospheric noise increases

2015-07-23 Thread Fred Jensen
If it is wide band, but not all over the entire band,, it's probably 
not atmospheric noise, more likely created by humans [i.e. your 
neighbors].  Especially if it drifts up and down slowly.


Odds generally are that it's correlated with the slowly increasing use 
of LED and CFL lights ... and possibly increases in indoor 
agriculture.  The latter can generally be identified by a fairly strict 
schedule of on and off.  I have one near me. :-)


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 7/23/2015 5:07 PM, w...@msn.com wrote:

Has anyone else noticed the dramatic increase in atmospheric noise
lately?  On 20M, 30M, and 40M especially, I see a wide-band noise source
wandering back and forth across the bands.  At times it almost looks
like a sine wave on the waterfall display.  The noise will vary from an
S3 up to a 20/S9.   It is especially troublesome on the frequencies I
use most, namely, 10.1389, 14.045, 14.070, 7045, and 7070.   With the
antenna disconnected, the noise drops to S1 or less.


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Skimmer Setup with K3 and KX3

2015-07-23 Thread Jim Brown

On Wed,7/22/2015 10:36 AM, Doug Ellmore wrote:

Asus Xonar U7 USB, simple stereo interface into the sound card from the
KX3


The ASUS Xonar U5 is even less expensive, and works VERY well. I buy 
from BH in NYC.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] LP-100 Digital Vector Wattmeter For Sale

2015-07-23 Thread Roger Marrotte
The meter has been sold.

 

Roger, W1EM

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ground Loss (long)

2015-07-23 Thread Jim Brown

On Wed,7/22/2015 6:15 PM, Al Lorona wrote:

This suggests that ground loss is sort of an impedance-matching problem. 
Clearly, as your ground gets really bad your antenna can still work just fine, 
even better in some cases!


Hi Al,

Several observations. First, soil influences vertically polarized 
antennas in two ways.


First, loss in the soil near the antenna as the field from the antenna 
causes current flow in the ground. The result is simple I squared R 
loss, and that power does not get radiated.


Second is the reflection from the earth in the far field where the 
radiated field hits it. That reflection adds (algebraically) to the 
direct signal to form the vertical pattern. The strength of the combined 
direct signal plus reflected signal depends on the relative phase angle 
between them, which in turn is a factor of distance, the elevation 
angle, and the soil.


The second point is that conductivity is not the only soil parameter.  
There is also the dielectric constant. In EZNEC, if you open the Ground 
Description tab and right click on either Cond or Diel Const, you'll get 
a window showing a continuum of soil types from very good to very poor. 
BOTH Cond and Diel Const vary with those soil types, and both quantities 
affect how the antenna behaves.


A year or two ago, I did an extensive study of the interaction of 
vertically polarized antennas with soil of different types and at 
different mounting heights. I presented it to the Pacificon Antenna 
Forum using these slides. http://k9yc.com/VerticalHeight.pdf


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B - No missing pin

2015-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Am installing a KXV3B into my K3 #266. The latest manual (Rev C1) says it’s 
normal for one of the pins that plug into J66 to be missing (third from right 
looking from front panel). In my case there is no missing pin so I’m wondering 
if that, too, is normal? Anyone come across this? It would be easy to remove 
but I’d rather not if it’s alright to leave it.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B - No missing pin

2015-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Downs

Many thanks, Don.

Keith at Elecraft sent me a direct reply too - good service as usual. My 
question answered in just over an hour!


It is as you say. There is nothing on the KXV3B pin in question so there is 
no need for it to be removed in the case of an early K3 like mine that does 
not have the keying plug in J66.


73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:39 PM

Geoff,

Look at the mating female connector.  If there is a plug in that
connector that matches the third from right pin, you will have to remove
the pin.
Those are keying pins to assure that you do not misplug the connectors
by being one pin off.
If there is no keying plug in the female connector, then you do not have
to remove that pin - but be careful to insert the pins correctly.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/23/2015 11:07 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote:
Am installing a KXV3B into my K3 #266. The latest manual (Rev C1) says it’s 
normal for one of the pins that plug into J66 to be missing (third from 
right looking from front panel). In my case there is no missing pin so I’m 
wondering if that, too, is normal? Anyone come across this? It would be 
easy to remove but I’d rather not if it’s alright to leave it.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B - No missing pin

2015-07-23 Thread Don Wilhelm

Geoff,

Look at the mating female connector.  If there is a plug in that 
connector that matches the third from right pin, you will have to remove 
the pin.
Those are keying pins to assure that you do not misplug the connectors 
by being one pin off.
If there is no keying plug in the female connector, then you do not have 
to remove that pin - but be careful to insert the pins correctly.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/23/2015 11:07 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote:

Am installing a KXV3B into my K3 #266. The latest manual (Rev C1) says it’s 
normal for one of the pins that plug into J66 to be missing (third from right 
looking from front panel). In my case there is no missing pin so I’m wondering 
if that, too, is normal? Anyone come across this? It would be easy to remove 
but I’d rather not if it’s alright to leave it.




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