Re: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP 
Without being judgmental :-) this is bad advice. SLP 0 and THR 20 in 
effect turns off AGC. Maybe there are times when you want to do this, 
but probably not in a contest, when you want to protect your ears.


73,
Vic, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 9 Jan 2017 22:48, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

Here are my settings:

dcy soft
hld .2
pls nor
slp 0
f 200
s 20

threshold:
CW - 20 for max dynamic range to separate callers in a pileup
SSB - 15 to prevent harsh sound of thr 20
RTTY - 10 to prevent overdriving the sound card on loud signals

Front panel AGC FAST, except SLOW on RTTY, as recommended by G3YYD

By the way, Elecraft guys, it would be nice if the AGC Threshold were 
remembered by mode.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, Arizona


-Original Message-
From: NOEL POULIN
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:31 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...
Most of the time I'm working CW, RTTY...in contests
Can somebody tell me about his best setting for these modes
Working only in contest .
Thanks
Noel

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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 receiver versus K3s receiver

2017-01-09 Thread K9MA 
The I/Q decoding happens after digitization. If a strong signal 
overloads the ADC, all bets are off.  Without the audio filters, that 
strong signal could be quite far away.  (The other low pass filters seem 
to cut off around 14 kHz.)  In any case, it could be well outside your 
DSP passband. The optional audio filters are two pole active low pass 
filters, with bandwidths of something like 700 Hz and 1.6 kHz.  There 
are two:  I and Q.  But, because the IF is baseband, where both sides of 
zero beat are present, these filters can reject signals on the "wrong" 
side.  Indeed, they couldn't, or the I/Q decoding couldn't remove one of 
them.



73,

Scott  K9MA

On 1/9/2017 17:23, Brendon Whateley wrote:
I'm not sure why you would think this is a problem, the "other side" 
signal is removed by the I/Q decoding technique, not by filtering. The 
filters do the job of roofing filters, reducing and removing near in 
strong signals -- from the IF signal that just happens now to be at 
baseband frequencies.


If I'm missing something, please educate me on what I'm missing?

- Brendon
KK6AYI

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:24 AM, K9MA > wrote:


The KX3 "roofing filters" are audio filters.  (I wouldn't even
call them "roofing" filters.)  They are analog filters, which can
improve rejection of adjacent signals which might overload the
ADC.  They will not, however, reject the "audio image", on the
other side of zero beat.  I'd expect, especially during contests,
the the effect would show up once in a while, probably making a
weak signal totally unintelligible.  Has anyone noticed this
effect? Especially on CW, it would be fairly unlikely, as the
interfering signal would have to fall within the narrow passband
on the other side of zero beat.

73,

Scott  K9MA


On 1/9/2017 11:54, Ignacy wrote:

Perhaps as it should be. A bigger and more expensive radio is
a better radio
but one cannot take the bigger radio everywhere. I assume you
had roofing
filters in KX3.

I used KX3 directly driving Expert 1.3k for at Easter Island
during CQ WW
SSB and a few days later in CW. KX3 was reliable and worked
pretty well. But
I had a feeling that discerning call signs in pileups was a
bit worse in
KX3. Also, a better speech processor makes K3 about 1-2 S
stronger than KX3
at same peak power so no one can win a SSB contest with KX3.
But KX3 is
about 20% weight and 10% of volume.

Ignacy, NO9E






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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Frantz 
Most excellent advice John. I haven't gone to the microscope 
yet, but a magnifier with a circular fluorescent is a standard 
feature on my bench as is a cheap over-the-eyeglasses magnifier.


I have a hot air rework station I got from Sparkfun which 
enabled me to remove the existing resistor on my K3 to install 
the KPod power mod. It is also great for shrink wrap tubing.


The difference between today and the old days is that then you 
got one component per package. Now you get many functions in one 
package. The new synth board for the K3 is a fine example. Darn 
few packages, but lots of function.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/9/17 at 6:08 PM, crustac...@brig-elec.com (John Pitz) wrote:


Guys, don't let SMT parts intimidate you.  With a little practice it
isn't difficult.  Especially if you know how to make a good solder joint
on a through hole part  The hardest part is getting magnification.
There are some very affordable stereo microscopes available, you will
probably want 20x magnification.  On Amazon I have seen prices in the
$137 range on a quick search.  I was able to convince my eye doctor to
prescribe a pair of low vision aid glasses, not quite 20x, that work
really well for the larger, 0603 and .5mm pitch 100 pin QFPs.  These
things have coke bottle lenses and they put the soldering iron a few
inches from my nose ;)  If you are into making your own circuits you
will find that 0603 parts, as well as SOT23 work well on .1 pitch
protoboard, if you are creative enough.

Other helpful hints: Buy the finest diameter leaded solder you can find,
no need to make your life any more difficult on this scale with lead
free solder.
Buy a flux pen.  Sometimes a little bit of extra flux will help.
One advantage of SMT parts is they are VERY inexpensive, at least
resistors and capacitors, and you can store an awful lot of them in a
small space.

Other resources are Schmartboards, these are used to adapt SMT ICs to .1
lead pitch perfboard.  Sparkfun and Adafruit are great resources as well
if you want to operate at a slightly higher level of abstraction then
the base hardware level.

If you ENJOY building it yourself, don't let small parts intimidate you.

---
Bill Frantz| Truth and love must prevail  | Periwinkle
(408)356-8506  | over lies and hate.  | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |   - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread Merv Schweigert via Elecraft 

I have been a ham since 1960, and in those years its extremely rare to find
a ham that is balanced,  and much easier to find one that is off the 
deep end.

Shoot just watch this list for a short time and observe.

as for me, I am not saying another word.
Merv K9FD/KH6




What is that line from the Radio Amateur's Code?

"The Radio Amateur is balanced.  Radio is a hobby, never interfering 
with duties owed to family, job, school or community."


:=)

Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ham funeral processions

2017-01-09 Thread Rick Bates (WA6NHC) 
That sounds like a proper send off for one that QSY'ed to a higher band. šŸ˜œ

Rick WA6NHC

Tiny iPhone keypad & spiel Czech happens

> On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
> Rose and I were in W7OIO's funeral procession a few years ago ... there
> were -LOTS- of us on his "home" repeater with many BV's, 73, etc., 
> even a bit of CW   such things -do- happen.  šŸ˜
> 
> 73 K0PP
> 
> 
> On Jan 9, 2017 8:49 PM, "Alan Bloom"  wrote:
> 
> On 01/09/2017 07:13 PM, K9ZTV wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ron ...
>> 
>> We customized the head-panel of Tom Hammond's (N0SS) casket to
>> incorporate his picture, call sign, tower, K2, and K3.  Most anything
>> is possible these days.  What you suggest is definitely doable.  The
>> difficulty lies in helping some people understand what the word
>> "appropriate" means.
>> 
> 
> I was once listening to a ham yakking on a local repeater when I figured
> out from his conversation that he was operating from a funeral procession.
> I guess he couldn't tear himself away from ham radio long enough to pay his
> respects to the dear departed.
> 
> What is that line from the Radio Amateur's Code?
> 
> "The Radio Amateur is balanced.  Radio is a hobby, never interfering with
> duties owed to family, job, school or community."
> 
> :=)
> 
> Alan N1AL
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[Elecraft] OT: Ham funeral processions

2017-01-09 Thread Ken G Kopp 
Rose and I were in W7OIO's funeral procession a few years ago ... there
were -LOTS- of us on his "home" repeater with many BV's, 73, etc., 
even a bit of CW   such things -do- happen.  šŸ˜

73 K0PP


On Jan 9, 2017 8:49 PM, "Alan Bloom"  wrote:

On 01/09/2017 07:13 PM, K9ZTV wrote:

> Hi Ron ...
>
> We customized the head-panel of Tom Hammond's (N0SS) casket to
> incorporate his picture, call sign, tower, K2, and K3.  Most anything
> is possible these days.  What you suggest is definitely doable.  The
> difficulty lies in helping some people understand what the word
> "appropriate" means.
>

I was once listening to a ham yakking on a local repeater when I figured
out from his conversation that he was operating from a funeral procession.
I guess he couldn't tear himself away from ham radio long enough to pay his
respects to the dear departed.

What is that line from the Radio Amateur's Code?

"The Radio Amateur is balanced.  Radio is a hobby, never interfering with
duties owed to family, job, school or community."

:=)

Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Johnson 
A close friend, K9KJM, was buried with an HT in his pocket.  I thought about
donating other HAM stuff to add to the casket, but decided not to add any
potential conflict to his ceremony.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K9ZTV
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 9:13 PM
To: Ron D'Eau Claire 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

Hi Ron ...

We customized the head-panel of Tom Hammond's (N0SS) casket to incorporate
his picture, call sign, tower, K2, and K3.  Most anything is possible these
days.  What you suggest is definitely doable.  The difficulty lies in
helping some people understand what the word "appropriate" means. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV


> On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:54 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:
> 
> Awaiting the company that builds caskets with a top cover that looks 
> like a
> K2 Front Panel. 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Dauer, Edward
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
> 
> When I go I am taking mine with me.  Listen around 7020 CW.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> K2s 7637 and 7687
> 
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> 
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:40:59 +
>From: Robert G Strickland 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
>Message-ID: <5873064b.1000...@verizon.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
>Ken...
> 
>Few things in radio life bring as many diverse pleasures to bear on a 
>single item as the K2. Some are for sale from time to time, but I dare 
>say that most K2 owners hang on to them to the end. Welcome to the 
> "club."
> 
>...robert K2 #5957
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Re dimmable LED, Elecraft Digest, Vol 153, Issue 14

2017-01-09 Thread Red 
If an AC voltage within the limits of the LED is applied, is another 
rectifier is needed, since the LED will rectify.  It's reverse voltage 
is limited so the AC probably must be a few volts.  See if any vendors 
of LEDs provide the reverse voltage limit.  Select a capacitor with 
impedance to limit the current to a desired value.  A  pot can be added 
for control.  I haven't tested this, but believe it will work fine.


I've used red LEDs, about 2 volts drop each, in strings of 5 from a 12 
VDC battery with a 5 or 10 K Ohm pot for control in my observatory for a 
few years with no problem and very good range of light intensity.


73, WO0W


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread Alan Bloom 

On 01/09/2017 07:13 PM, K9ZTV wrote:

Hi Ron ...

We customized the head-panel of Tom Hammond's (N0SS) casket to
incorporate his picture, call sign, tower, K2, and K3.  Most anything
is possible these days.  What you suggest is definitely doable.  The
difficulty lies in helping some people understand what the word
"appropriate" means.


I was once listening to a ham yakking on a local repeater when I figured 
out from his conversation that he was operating from a funeral 
procession.  I guess he couldn't tear himself away from ham radio long 
enough to pay his respects to the dear departed.


What is that line from the Radio Amateur's Code?

"The Radio Amateur is balanced.  Radio is a hobby, never interfering 
with duties owed to family, job, school or community."


:=)

Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread K9ZTV 
Hi Ron ...

We customized the head-panel of Tom Hammond's (N0SS) casket to incorporate his 
picture, call sign, tower, K2, and K3.  Most anything is possible these days.  
What you suggest is definitely doable.  The difficulty lies in helping some 
people understand what the word "appropriate" means. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV


> On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:54 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:
> 
> Awaiting the company that builds caskets with a top cover that looks like a
> K2 Front Panel. 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer,
> Edward
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
> 
> When I go I am taking mine with me.  Listen around 7020 CW.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> K2s 7637 and 7687
> 
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 
> 
>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:40:59 +
>From: Robert G Strickland 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
>Message-ID: <5873064b.1000...@verizon.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
>Ken...
> 
>Few things in radio life bring as many diverse pleasures to bear on a 
>single item as the K2. Some are for sale from time to time, but I dare 
>say that most K2 owners hang on to them to the end. Welcome to the
> "club."
> 
>...robert K2 #5957
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire 
Awaiting the company that builds caskets with a top cover that looks like a
K2 Front Panel. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer,
Edward
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 4:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!

When I go I am taking mine with me.  Listen around 7020 CW.

Ted, KN1CBR
K2s 7637 and 7687

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:40:59 +
From: Robert G Strickland 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 on the air!
Message-ID: <5873064b.1000...@verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Ken...

Few things in radio life bring as many diverse pleasures to bear on a 
single item as the K2. Some are for sale from time to time, but I dare 
say that most K2 owners hang on to them to the end. Welcome to the
"club."

...robert K2 #5957

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A Mode not working

2017-01-09 Thread Barry 

Bill,
Make sure the JT65 program knows to use your sound card for in and 
out, and that you have levels set correctly. If there are multiple cards 
attached to your computer, you could have inadvertently picked the wrong 
one. At some point, all of use will have done that a few times. :-)


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Wiehe via Elecraft" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: 1/9/2017 9:21:02 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A Mode not working

I recently downloaded a JT65 program and after several days of flawless 
operation, my K3 stopped transmitting in DATA A mode. The K3 keys but 
nothing is transmitted and no power out. I changed over to BPSK31 via 
HRD  using DATA A with the same results. All the other modes (RTTY FSK, 
CW, SSB) work fine with no issues. Only DATA A seems impacted. I 
reloaded the Firmware from the website and went through the 
Configuration tables and that all that appears correct.I must have 
missed something  someplace so any help would be appreciated.Thanks, 
Bill-W0BBI

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[Elecraft] K3 DATA A Mode not working

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Wiehe via Elecraft 
I recently downloaded a JT65 program and after several days of flawless 
operation, my K3 stopped transmitting in DATA A mode. The K3 keys but nothing 
is transmitted and no power out. I changed over to BPSK31 via HRD Ā using DATA A 
with the same results. All the other modes (RTTY FSK, CW, SSB) work fine with 
no issues. Only DATA A seems impacted. I reloaded the Firmware from the website 
and went through the Configuration tables and that all that appears correct.I 
must have missed something Ā someplace so any help would be appreciated.Thanks,Ā 
Bill-W0BBIĀ 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support

2017-01-09 Thread John Pitz 
Guys, don't let SMT parts intimidate you.  With a little practice it
isn't difficult.  Especially if you know how to make a good solder joint
on a through hole part  The hardest part is getting magnification.
There are some very affordable stereo microscopes available, you will
probably want 20x magnification.  On Amazon I have seen prices in the
$137 range on a quick search.  I was able to convince my eye doctor to
prescribe a pair of low vision aid glasses, not quite 20x, that work
really well for the larger, 0603 and .5mm pitch 100 pin QFPs.  These
things have coke bottle lenses and they put the soldering iron a few
inches from my nose ;)  If you are into making your own circuits you
will find that 0603 parts, as well as SOT23 work well on .1 pitch
protoboard, if you are creative enough.

Other helpful hints: Buy the finest diameter leaded solder you can find,
no need to make your life any more difficult on this scale with lead
free solder.
Buy a flux pen.  Sometimes a little bit of extra flux will help.  

One advantage of SMT parts is they are VERY inexpensive, at least
resistors and capacitors, and you can store an awful lot of them in a
small space.

Other resources are Schmartboards, these are used to adapt SMT ICs to .1
lead pitch perfboard.  Sparkfun and Adafruit are great resources as well
if you want to operate at a slightly higher level of abstraction then
the base hardware level.

If you ENJOY building it yourself, don't let small parts intimidate you.

73,
KD8CIV



On Mon, 2017-01-09 at 18:29 -0600, Kevin wrote:

> I don't either. I read every single post in this thread and I didn't 
> think anybody was trying to start a holy war.
> 
> To the guys who built all your gear from through hole parts...good for 
> ya. Those days are gone. There will be no more rigs like the K2 when the 
> parts are unobtainable. Better get you heads around SMT.
> 
> To all the guys who just want to operate...good for you. You are at 
> distinct disadvantage when it comes to how the radio works. Quality time 
> with ALL the manuals, including the assembly manuals, can help.
> 
> To all the guys who like and do both...I'm one of you. K2/100 #4684 was 
> my main rig for years. I will NEVER sell it.
> 
> 
> On 1/8/2017 5:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> > I've been following this thread noting how the focus of many Hams has 
> > changed. I see no "appliance operator vs builder" argument.
> >
> > 73, Ron AC7AC
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> > Walter Underwood
> > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:43 PM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support
> >
> > Please everyone, we donā€™t need the ā€œappliance operators vs buildersā€ 
> > argument here. Those are flavors of amateur radio, not levels of goodness.
> >
> > I was an appliance operator in 1970, with a BC-348 receiver and an ARC-5 
> > transmitter. My Elmer got those working for me.
> >
> > See you on the Ʀther,
> >
> > wunder
> > K6WRU
> > Walter Underwood
> > CM87wj
> > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support

2017-01-09 Thread Alan Bloom 
Hams have been complaining about appliance operators at least since I 
got into ham radio in 1968 and probably a long time before that.  In the 
early days of radio, you *had* to build your own station because 
ready-built equipment was not available (unless you were one of the 1% 
and could pay someone to do it for you).


In those days, you could build something close to state-or-the-art on 
your kitchen table.  But building a spark transmitter or a 2-tube MOPA 
rig was far simpler than building a state-of-the-art multi-band 
synthesized radio would be today.


I think you can make a good argument that the little projects that hams 
do build today - for example some Arduino gizmo with a dozen parts - is 
of similar complexity to the all-homebrew stations of old.


Alan N1AL


On 01/09/2017 04:29 PM, Kevin wrote:

I don't either. I read every single post in this thread and I didn't
think anybody was trying to start a holy war.

To the guys who built all your gear from through hole parts...good for
ya. Those days are gone. There will be no more rigs like the K2 when the
parts are unobtainable. Better get you heads around SMT.

To all the guys who just want to operate...good for you. You are at
distinct disadvantage when it comes to how the radio works. Quality time
with ALL the manuals, including the assembly manuals, can help.

To all the guys who like and do both...I'm one of you. K2/100 #4684 was
my main rig for years. I will NEVER sell it.




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[Elecraft] Volumn from K3S USB interface

2017-01-09 Thread Bill Frantz 
I have installed the KIO3BUPKT in my K3 and am generally quite 
satisfied with it. During the weekend RTTY contest, I noticed 
that I was getting very low audio volumes coming into my 
MacIntosh when the AGC was engaged (both in fast and slow 
modes). I tried to find how to adjust the volume in the K3S 
manual, but only found the procedure by reading all the CONFIG 
items in the back of the manual. The LIN OUT setting does the job.


The manual warns that values higher than 10 may result in 
overdrive of the soundcard or saturation of the KIO3ā€™s 
isolation transformers. I found a setting of 40 seemed to work well.


Am I the only one driving the USB this hard?

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support

2017-01-09 Thread Kevin 
I don't either. I read every single post in this thread and I didn't 
think anybody was trying to start a holy war.


To the guys who built all your gear from through hole parts...good for 
ya. Those days are gone. There will be no more rigs like the K2 when the 
parts are unobtainable. Better get you heads around SMT.


To all the guys who just want to operate...good for you. You are at 
distinct disadvantage when it comes to how the radio works. Quality time 
with ALL the manuals, including the assembly manuals, can help.


To all the guys who like and do both...I'm one of you. K2/100 #4684 was 
my main rig for years. I will NEVER sell it.



On 1/8/2017 5:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I've been following this thread noting how the focus of many Hams has changed. I see no 
"appliance operator vs builder" argument.

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter 
Underwood
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:43 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support

Please everyone, we donā€™t need the ā€œappliance operators vs buildersā€ argument 
here. Those are flavors of amateur radio, not levels of goodness.

I was an appliance operator in 1970, with a BC-348 receiver and an ARC-5 
transmitter. My Elmer got those working for me.

See you on the Ʀther,

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


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[Elecraft] K2 on the air!

2017-01-09 Thread Dauer, Edward 
When I go I am taking mine with me.  Listen around 7020 CW.

Ted, KN1CBR
K2s 7637 and 7687

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Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:40:59 +
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Ken...

Few things in radio life bring as many diverse pleasures to bear on a 
single item as the K2. Some are for sale from time to time, but I dare 
say that most K2 owners hang on to them to the end. Welcome to the "club."

...robert K2 #5957

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with N1MM+ ansd My K3 in ARRL RTTY Test

2017-01-09 Thread Irwin Darack 
I had the same problem changing the K3s to FSK D verses AFSK A that I
normally use for RTTY whenever I clicked on a spot. Solved the problem by
telling N1MM+ to follow the radio setting.

Irwin KD3TB



On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 3:29 PM Nathern Priddy via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Did anyone else have the problem I had using MMTTY in N1MM+ with my K3 in
> the ARRL RTTY Contest?  I was operating in the assisted mode.  Whenever I
> clicked on a new spot in the N1MM+ bandspread window, the mode switched
> from FSK D to USB.  I had to push the mode button twice to get back to FSK
> D mode each time I clicked on a new spot.
>
>
>
> I temporarily switched to DXLab Suite and used MMTTY together with
> Commander and Spot Collector.  With that software setup, I could click on a
> new RTTY spot in Spot Collector, and the K3 stayed in FSK D mode.  When I
> switched back to N1MM+, I had the origninal problem for the rest of the
> contest.
>
>
>
> It was a real drag having to reset the mode to FSK D every time I selected
> a new call sign to work.  Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Barry Priddy - K5VIP
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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 receiver versus K3s receiver

2017-01-09 Thread Brendon Whateley 
I'm not sure why you would think this is a problem, the "other side" signal
is removed by the I/Q decoding technique, not by filtering. The filters do
the job of roofing filters, reducing and removing near in strong signals --
from the IF signal that just happens now to be at baseband frequencies.

If I'm missing something, please educate me on what I'm missing?

- Brendon
KK6AYI

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:24 AM, K9MA  wrote:

> The KX3 "roofing filters" are audio filters.  (I wouldn't even call them
> "roofing" filters.)  They are analog filters, which can improve rejection
> of adjacent signals which might overload the ADC.  They will not, however,
> reject the "audio image", on the other side of zero beat.  I'd expect,
> especially during contests, the the effect would show up once in a while,
> probably making a weak signal totally unintelligible.  Has anyone noticed
> this effect?  Especially on CW, it would be fairly unlikely, as the
> interfering signal would have to fall within the narrow passband on the
> other side of zero beat.
>
> 73,
>
> Scott  K9MA
>
>
> On 1/9/2017 11:54, Ignacy wrote:
>
>> Perhaps as it should be. A bigger and more expensive radio is a better
>> radio
>> but one cannot take the bigger radio everywhere. I assume you had roofing
>> filters in KX3.
>>
>> I used KX3 directly driving Expert 1.3k for at Easter Island during CQ WW
>> SSB and a few days later in CW. KX3 was reliable and worked pretty well.
>> But
>> I had a feeling that discerning call signs in pileups was a bit worse in
>> KX3. Also, a better speech processor makes K3 about 1-2 S stronger than
>> KX3
>> at same peak power so no one can win a SSB contest with KX3. But KX3 is
>> about 20% weight and 10% of volume.
>>
>> Ignacy, NO9E
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with N1MM+ and My K3 in ARRL RTTY Test

2017-01-09 Thread Richard Ferch 
In the N1MM+ Configurer, under the Mode Control tab, under the right side
"Mode sent to radio", beside RTTY you should select RTTY, in order to put
the K3 into FSK D when clicking on an RTTY spot. For those who prefer to
use AFSK A, the correct selection is AFSK. For PSK and other sound card
modes using DATA A on the K3, you should select PSK in the boxes beside PSK.

Also, there is a check box in the Configurer under Mode Control called
"Always use packet spot mode". This check box is mainly there for people
who use N1MM+ outside of contests, or perhaps in some multi-mode contests.
It should not be checked in single-mode contests, nor in multi-mode
contests if you have not first set up the band plan limits in the Bandmap
window to be appropriate for the particular contest. The appropriate
sub-band limits change depending on the contest mode, and they are also
different between domestic vs. DX contests. You can limit the problems this
setting can cause to a certain extent by ensuring that the Mode Category in
the Contest Setup dialog is set correctly (e.g. do not use a multi-mode
category for a single-mode contest).

73,
Rich VE3KI


K5VIP wrote:

> Whenever I clicked on a new spot in the N1MM+ bandspread window, the mode
switched from FSK D to USB.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 serial number doesn't match

2017-01-09 Thread Nr4c 
Me thinks you have the wrong label on the radio. The one on FW should be the 
correct one. UNCHANGEABLE. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 9, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Wayne Moore K7EX  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> New KX3 owner here. I have noticed that the paper serial number does not 
> match the SN in the radio menu (off by 1). In all my reading I thought this 
> could be fixed with the KX3 utility but I can't find where. My searches 
> through the reflector have come up empty. Some help?
> 
> - Wayne K7EX 
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with N1MM+ ansd My K3 in ARRL RTTY Test

2017-01-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett 
This sounds like a setup issue in N1MM+.  You will probably get better 
help on their email group.


n1mmloggerp...@yahoogroups.com

Under configurer check the mode settings and make sure rtty is set to rtty.



On 1/9/2017 1:26 PM, Nathern Priddy via Elecraft wrote:

Did anyone else have the problem I had using MMTTY in N1MM+ with my K3 in the 
ARRL RTTY Contest?  I was operating in the assisted mode.  Whenever I clicked 
on a new spot in the N1MM+ bandspread window, the mode switched from FSK D to 
USB.  I had to push the mode button twice to get back to FSK D mode each time I 
clicked on a new spot.

I temporarily switched to DXLab Suite and used MMTTY together with Commander 
and Spot Collector.  With that software setup, I could click on a new RTTY spot 
in Spot Collector, and the K3 stayed in FSK D mode.  When I switched back to 
N1MM+, I had the origninal problem for the rest of the contest.

It was a real drag having to reset the mode to FSK D every time I selected a 
new call sign to work.  Any thoughts?

Barry Priddy - K5VIP
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Re: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread Dave Hachadorian 
Here are my settings:

dcy soft
hld .2
pls nor
slp 0
f 200
s 20

threshold:
CW - 20 for max dynamic range to separate callers in a pileup
SSB - 15 to prevent harsh sound of thr 20
RTTY - 10 to prevent overdriving the sound card on loud signals

Front panel AGC FAST, except SLOW on RTTY, as recommended by G3YYD

By the way, Elecraft guys, it would be nice if the AGC Threshold were 
remembered by mode.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, Arizona


-Original Message- 
From: NOEL POULIN
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:31 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...
Most of the time I'm working CW, RTTY...in contests
Can somebody tell me about his best setting for these modes
Working only in contest .
Thanks
Noel
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Re: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread Gmail - George 
Noel,
This subject is well discussed on this reflector from time to time.

I suggest starting with the discussion on Don's (W3FPR) web site - 
http://www.w3fpr.com/.
Go to the "Noisy K3? - Adjust your AGC Settings" section. That paper has a 
very good explanations of the K3 AGC system operation.

For a discussion of each control with suggested values and why beyond the 
Elecraft Operators Manual.
http://www.ve1zac.com/Jeff%20Smith%20K3%20AGC%20R1.pdf

You can chase your tail until you understand the settings and how they 
interact.
Go to Fred's (KE7F) "K3 AGC Story" sections at http://www.ke7x.com/home.
Fred has written tutorials on deciphering the Elecraft manuals with step by 
step instructions.
I do not have any of his books; however they get very good reviews on this 
reflector!

Personally - I refer to the transfer graphs. That helped me understand the 
AGC operation on my K3 & KX3.
http://www.ke7x.com/home/miscellaneous-k3-information/agc-4-51.  I have a 
laminated copy of this graph in my operating desk!
Also refer to these as well.
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_agc_and_s-meter.htm.

The Elecraft AGC system allows you a large room for adjustment to allow 
different modes of operation and preferences.
Unfortunately this also means that there is a learning curve to get it "Your 
Way"!
"Your Way" may change depending on the mode and band conditions.

Hopes this helps a little.
73
George
AI4VZ

- 
From: NOEL POULIN

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...

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[Elecraft] Problem with N1MM+ ansd My K3 in ARRL RTTY Test

2017-01-09 Thread Nathern Priddy via Elecraft 
Did anyone else have the problem I had using MMTTY in N1MM+ with my K3 in the 
ARRL RTTY Contest?  I was operating in the assisted mode.  Whenever I clicked 
on a new spot in the N1MM+ bandspread window, the mode switched from FSK D to 
USB.  I had to push the mode button twice to get back to FSK D mode each time I 
clicked on a new spot.

I temporarily switched to DXLab Suite and used MMTTY together with Commander 
and Spot Collector.  With that software setup, I could click on a new RTTY spot 
in Spot Collector, and the K3 stayed in FSK D mode.  When I switched back to 
N1MM+, I had the origninal problem for the rest of the contest.  

It was a real drag having to reset the mode to FSK D every time I selected a 
new call sign to work.  Any thoughts?

Barry Priddy - K5VIP
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Re: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Noel,

For the SLP and THR settings, take a look at the "Noisy K3" article on 
my website www.w3fpr.com.  Those 2 are the major ones governing how much 
noise you hear on a band between pauses in speech or between 
letters/words on CW.
The article gives you guidelines for determining the best setting for 
the type of operating you do and your personal preferences.


For the other settings, I find the defaults are quite suitable, but you 
are welcome to experiment.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/9/2017 2:31 PM, NOEL POULIN wrote:

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...
Most of the time I'm working CW, RTTY...in contests

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[Elecraft] R: best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread glcazz...@alice.it 

It is  very difficult question dear Noel, with more difficult answers If 
you search on the web you can find different hams opinions.Some months ago I 
maked the same question here :)
I tried different settings, and now I am using for normal listening CW ( I work 
99% cw), with AGC SLOW ( for lower noise in CW QSK):AGC DECAY - SOFTAGC HLD - 
0,40AGC PLS - NORAGC SLP - 012 (as factory setting)AGC THR - 007 (factory 
setting 5)AGC F - 120AGC S - 020But on my K-PAD on a macro I settled also the 
command AGC THR 15 -for listening very low level dx better.But opinion here are 
very different - I specify only Don Wilhelm that prefer THR 8 and SLP 2, for 
example.I think that the real problem is that we wanted agc solve the band 
noise problems, that NB and NR only partially solve.But agc can only help to 
reduce qrn, not remove it...73 de Ian IK4EWX




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Data: 9-gen-2017 20.31
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Ogg: [Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...
Most of the time I'm working CW, RTTY...in contests
Can somebody tell me about his best setting for these modes
Working only in contest .
Thanks
Noel
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[Elecraft] best agc setting for the k3s

2017-01-09 Thread NOEL POULIN 

Hi,
I am a new owner of a K3S.
I would like to know the best AGC SETTINGS  for the K3S
I mean  AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP,AGC THR.
I am not very satisfied with the default setting...
Most of the time I'm working CW, RTTY...in contests
Can somebody tell me about his best setting for these modes
Working only in contest .
Thanks
Noel
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 serial number doesn't match

2017-01-09 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Wayne,

Contact K3support.  If you are the original owner (or know who was), 
they can look up the records and see if you need a new sticker or the 
serial number in the menu should be changed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/9/2017 1:20 PM, Wayne Moore K7EX wrote:

Hi all,

New KX3 owner here. I have noticed that the paper serial number does not match 
the SN in the radio menu (off by 1). In all my reading I thought this could be 
fixed with the KX3 utility but I can't find where. My searches through the 
reflector have come up empty. Some help?


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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 receiver versus K3s receiver

2017-01-09 Thread K9MA 
The KX3 "roofing filters" are audio filters.  (I wouldn't even call them 
"roofing" filters.)  They are analog filters, which can improve 
rejection of adjacent signals which might overload the ADC.  They will 
not, however, reject the "audio image", on the other side of zero beat.  
I'd expect, especially during contests, the the effect would show up 
once in a while, probably making a weak signal totally unintelligible.  
Has anyone noticed this effect?  Especially on CW, it would be fairly 
unlikely, as the interfering signal would have to fall within the narrow 
passband on the other side of zero beat.


73,

Scott  K9MA


On 1/9/2017 11:54, Ignacy wrote:

Perhaps as it should be. A bigger and more expensive radio is a better radio
but one cannot take the bigger radio everywhere. I assume you had roofing
filters in KX3.

I used KX3 directly driving Expert 1.3k for at Easter Island during CQ WW
SSB and a few days later in CW. KX3 was reliable and worked pretty well. But
I had a feeling that discerning call signs in pileups was a bit worse in
KX3. Also, a better speech processor makes K3 about 1-2 S stronger than KX3
at same peak power so no one can win a SSB contest with KX3. But KX3 is
about 20% weight and 10% of volume.

Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] KX3 serial number doesn't match

2017-01-09 Thread Wayne Moore K7EX 
Hi all,

New KX3 owner here. I have noticed that the paper serial number does not match 
the SN in the radio menu (off by 1). In all my reading I thought this could be 
fixed with the KX3 utility but I can't find where. My searches through the 
reflector have come up empty. Some help?

- Wayne K7EX 
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Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10

2017-01-09 Thread John Saxon via Elecraft 
Hey...I clicked this link and my McAfee went crazy...all kinds of warnings 
about this site. Ā Has anyone else had this happen? Ā Has anyone used this link?
Thanks,JohnK5ENQ

  From: Dick Grolleman 
 To: Peter Chamalian ; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
 
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 1:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Drivers for Windows 10
   
Hello Pete and All

Windows 10, does an automatic update on the original driver. This will not work 
with the old Profilic cable.
There is a fix for it. Follow the link below and install the Profilic driver 
from there. This did the trick for me.

http://www.ifamilysoftware.com/news37.html

I still use the same cable purchased in 2008 with my K3 with Windows 10.

73 de Dick PA3FQA



   
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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 receiver versus K3s receiver

2017-01-09 Thread Ignacy 
Perhaps as it should be. A bigger and more expensive radio is a better radio
but one cannot take the bigger radio everywhere. I assume you had roofing
filters in KX3. 

I used KX3 directly driving Expert 1.3k for at Easter Island during CQ WW
SSB and a few days later in CW. KX3 was reliable and worked pretty well. But
I had a feeling that discerning call signs in pileups was a bit worse in
KX3. Also, a better speech processor makes K3 about 1-2 S stronger than KX3
at same peak power so no one can win a SSB contest with KX3. But KX3 is
about 20% weight and 10% of volume.  

Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] Upcoming SoCal trip - available for KX-Line demo/talk/SOTA hike

2017-01-09 Thread Wayne Burdick 
Hi all,

I'll be in southern California in the vicinity of February 3-6. I'll be 
bringing a KX2 and accessories, and would be happy to get together with those 
interested in a demo and/or presentation on the KX-Line. Another possibility 
would be a SOTA activation.

While my actual destination is near San Diego, I'd be happy to veer off course 
on the way down or back to rendezvous with a club or other group.

Please email me with any suggested dates/locations.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] WTB:KAT500

2017-01-09 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS 
Hi all,

no bothering, just say Happy New Year 2017 to all. Health and nice people
around you!

Also would like to let you know that I am still looking for KAT500 to
complete my setup :)
Thank you for any kind of reasonable offers. 

Many thanks and best regards,

73 - Petr, OK1RP



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Re: [Elecraft] OT thread non-Elecraft Looking for 5 Pense piece

2017-01-09 Thread KC6CNN 
Thank you!
I received a couple of them. 
Makes sending photos to the UK easier when we both have the same coin to
show the shot groupings. 

Thank You Very Much. 

Gerald




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA works, but text stops

2017-01-09 Thread KC6CNN 
Okay very strange problem. 
The keyboard would quit working but showed it had power to it. 
Then finally the waterfall stopped. 
I switched to dummy load to make sure it was not a rf problem, still did not
work. 
I did a complete reset and still did not fix the problem. 
I took the case off of the P3 and took the P3SVGA board off which houses the
USB.
I cleaned everything up and reseated the board and put it all back together. 
Bingo. Something fixed it. It was either the cleaning up all contacts, or
seating them. 
The P3 is back running like a champ. 
This P3 does so much more than I knew it did. 
Okay listed it here just in case someone else has these strange symptoms. 
Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position

2017-01-09 Thread Dave B via Elecraft 
On 07/01/17 22:00, David Woolley wrote:
> Some cheap mains operated lamps use capacitive droppers followed by 
> rectifier and resistive current limiter.  They are the type likely to be 
> sold in one dollar stores, or on Ebay.

At least they are RF quiet!   I have several in our house.  No failures
yet in over a year either.
And we run on 240V 50Hz.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

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