[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   A sunny, warm week kept me busy outside.  Lots of colors but the 
mild weather slowed the mushrooms.  The hunters keep driving by but 
between the local clear cutting and the private land they're not finding 
anything.  They need to stop following the roads along the ridges and 
hike into the valleys.  Good cover with lots of elk and a few bear.


   A solar wind is due but it's already behind schedule. Tomorrow is 
the last weekend before the time change.  I normally keep the same local 
time and change the UTC  schedule.  That change moves the 40 meter net 
to after dark for all of us.  20 meters is also effected because some of 
the country is already getting dark which changes propagation.  With the 
solar minimum almost upon us it might be better to have both nets 
earlier in the day.  Further thought is necessary.



Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7047 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Possible Use on 10 Meters?

[Niel Skousen]

Wayne has the definitive answer, but I believe he’s used it on several other 
bands, up to 6m

Niel
WA7SSA

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Jim H via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have an AX1 on order. My question is it possible to use it on 10 meters?I 
> assume you would have to have the switch in the 15/17 meters position, use 
> the counterpoise wire and shorten up the whip. Plus use an ATU to help the 
> ant work. Just an idea.73Jim Hk7sss
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"

[Scott]

Joel,

For "wake on LAN" to work the network adapters on each end of the LAN or 
WAN connection (wired or wireless) have to be set to send and receive 
"wake on LAN" packets.  If the "powered off" machine is to be awakened 
then the network adapter that controls it has to be set to receive a 
wake on LAN packet AND also to allow the network adapter to then power 
on the machine.  Once the network adapter is set then any machine on the 
LAN that can send a magic packet can also power on the machine. 
Likewise the machine that is waking up the "powered off" machine also 
has to have it's network adapter enabled for wake on LAN and set to send 
the wake on LAN "magic packet" to wake up properly configured machines.


You didn't specify what OS you are using but I'll assume it's some sort 
of Windows. To set wake on LAN, go to control panel > network and 
sharing center.  There you should find a link on the left side that says 
"change adapter settings".  Click on "change adapter settings" and all 
your wired and wireless "network connections" should appear.  Then right 
click on the wireless or wired "network connection" that you are using 
for your LAN on that specific machine and select properties from the 
menu.  This will pull up an applet that lists your exact network adapter 
by manufacturer at the top and a configure button just below.  (Do not 
mess with your TCP/IP settings further down) Select the configure 
button, and yet another applet will appear.  At the top of that applet 
are several tabs.  Under the "advanced" tab ensure "wake on magic 
packet" and "wake on pattern match" are both enabled.  These two are at 
the bottom of the options list and you may have to scroll down to find 
them.  Then under the power management tab ensure "allow this device to 
wake the computer" is check marked and under that select "only allow 
magic packet to wake the computer" if so desired.  Then click ok.  This 
configuration will need to be done on the appropriate network adapter 
for all the machines you want to work with wake on LAN.


That should get your hardware on both machines in a state where they 
will work for wake on LAN operations and wake on LAN software.  Now if 
there is a configuration issue or bug in the remote access software... 
sorry but I can't help with that.


Good luck.

Scott
AD5HS

On 10/20/2018 2:53 PM, Joel Hallas wrote:

Dear Elecraft,

With KPA1500 s/n 400, the serial connected Utility program can remotely
power the amp up and down, however, the LAN connected Remote program can't
seem to (arguably more important).

In either Local Connect or Host Connect modes, it says "Power Button is
Disabled because Wake on Lan is Disabled". The host connect mode says Wake
on Lan (WON) will take some seconds to awake, but it doesn't.

Does anyone know how to enable WON??

Thanks much!
  
Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR

Westport, CT




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[Elecraft] AX1 Possible Use on 10 Meters?

[Jim H via Elecraft]

Hi all,
I have an AX1 on order. My question is it possible to use it on 10 meters?I 
assume you would have to have the switch in the 15/17 meters position, use the 
counterpoise wire and shorten up the whip. Plus use an ATU to help the ant 
work. Just an idea.73Jim Hk7sss
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[Elecraft] Ax1 fun

[Edouard Lafargue]

Brought my KX3 on a day hike in Donner Pass (California) today, and fired
it up on a small peak (George R. Stewart Peak) with the AX1 whip and its
counterpoise.

Within 10 minutes, got QSOs over ssb with the state of New York, Florida
and... Bonaire. Pretty cool on a short whip, 10 watts and a bit of luck!

Great job, Elecraft :-)

73 de Ed w6ela
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Re: [Elecraft] NEW Elecraft Webpage now up

[rboutell]

For those not familiar, if you need to see something from the old website,
you can see a snapshot at:
www.wayback.com
Here is a sample, the latest snapshot:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181013181827/http://www.elecraft.com/



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[Elecraft] K3EXREF issue? K3

[Gary Smith]

I noticed CW stations were a bit off from 
the P3 and thought I needed to 
re-calibrate the P3 again. I did so and 
still encountered issues. I have the 
K3EXREF installed and it has been working 
fine for some time now with the GPSDO 10 
MHz source.

On a hunch I looked at the K3 REF CAL 
results and the asterisk is not flashing. 
I rebooted the GPSDO and the K3 but no 
asterisk. I checked the cables and all are 
intact. I pressed the #2 button for XREF 
IN & no change, same if I tap it again for 
XREFOUT.

It's either the GPSDO failed, the K3EXREF 
board has failed or something else.

Any suggestions?

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Yes, use only method for PTT.   Either CAT or VOX,  but never both.   I 
prefer CAT as, for digital operation,  I don't have to mess with the VOX 
values for my normal SSB operation.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/20/2018 6:52 PM, Nr4c wrote:

Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface 
and VOX settings.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?


On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:

I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
or is not being processed by the radio.

Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.

The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
interface from the K3S.

The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".

The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

73 Bill AE6JV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Nr4c]

MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has NO 
other use. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> 
> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
> 
> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
> 
> 73 Robert K7RNA
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same behavior:
>> KX3
>> PX3
>> SignaLink
>> MacBook Pro
>> CAT interface
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
>>> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
>>> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although 
>>> the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button 
>>> on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to 
>>> take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being 
>>> processed by the radio.
>>> 
>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
>>> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>> 
>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from 
>>> the K3S.
>>> 
>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
>>> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>> 
>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>> 
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is 
>>> force; like
>>> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. 
>>> Never for a
>>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo 
>>> Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Nr4c]

Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface 
and VOX settings. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
> What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
>> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
>> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
>> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
>> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
>> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
>> or is not being processed by the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
>> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
>> interface from the K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
>> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not
>> eloquence, it is force; like
>> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
>> master. Never for a
>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
>> action. Geo Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Robert Albano]

Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.

Should MIC BIAS be off as well?

73 Robert K7RNA

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> 
> I have the same behavior:
> KX3
> PX3
> SignaLink
> MacBook Pro
> CAT interface
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
>> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
>> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the 
>> computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take 
>> the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by 
>> the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
>> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the 
>> K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
>> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> -
>> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is 
>> force; like
>> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. 
>> Never for a
>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo 
>> Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Robert Albano]

I have the same behavior:
KX3
PX3
SignaLink
MacBook Pro
CAT interface

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the 
> computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the 
> radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the 
> radio.
> 
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
> 
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the 
> K3S.
> 
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
> 
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> -
> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is 
> force; like
> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. 
> Never for a
> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo 
> Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[rich hurd WC3T]

What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:

> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
> or is not being processed by the radio.
>
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
> interface from the K3S.
>
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
> -
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> eloquence, it is force; like
> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
> master. Never for a
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[Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

[Bill Frantz]

I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 
and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button 
immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the 
radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has 
stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT 
command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent 
or is not being processed by the radio.


Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT 
interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.


The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 
interface from the K3S.


The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home 
brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".


The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] KXAT100 Tuner

[Don Wilhelm]

Kevin,

The new website has a few wrinkles that are in the process of being 
ironed out.  I suggest you call 831-763-4211 Monday after 8AM Pacific 
time and talk to the sales folks to place your order.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/20/2018 10:52 AM, ksto...@ac0h.net wrote:

I must have missed it but I am getting ready to order a KX Line and don't
see the KXAT100 option.

R. Kevin StoverAC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
"If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the
20th.Just stop."


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[Elecraft] KPA1500 "Wake on LAN"

[Joel Hallas]

Dear Elecraft,

With KPA1500 s/n 400, the serial connected Utility program can remotely
power the amp up and down, however, the LAN connected Remote program can't
seem to (arguably more important). 

In either Local Connect or Host Connect modes, it says "Power Button is
Disabled because Wake on Lan is Disabled". The host connect mode says Wake
on Lan (WON) will take some seconds to awake, but it doesn't.

Does anyone know how to enable WON??

Thanks much!
 
Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT




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[Elecraft] W2 Units For Sale

[Ernie Kluft]

The 200 W W2 has been sold and shipped  Thanks, Ernie

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[Elecraft] Looking for a PR6-10

[Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX]

I still need one more PR6-10 to replace the PR6 in another K3. If anyone 
has a PR6-10 (not PR6!) preamp that you no longer need, please send me 
an offer via direct mail. If you upgraded to a KXV3B and had one before, 
then you no longer need it (it is included).


This can be shipped to either an address in Florida or in Germany.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] TX_INH input (pin 7 on ACC) behavior

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

Don is correct.

FYI, after looking over the K3 schematics with N6KR at Visalia many years
ago, we came up with a safe and simple "SO2R" lockout circuit (given two
K3s) that is documented here:

https://bit.ly/K3lockout

The 470 ohm resistor is a safety feature designed to prevent a potential
short of 5V to ground if TX INH is set back to the default position (OFF,
which resets Pin 7 as a "K3 ON" signal with +5V), and then another K3
shorts that PIN to ground.

This simple lockout circuit is implemented in the Y-BOX
 as a convenience option (two Y-BOXs required).  The
"CW and Phone" version uses the FSK line (Pin 1) to get the +5V, so no
external power supply is required, but that precludes the use of that pin
for FSK RTTY.

If you want to both FSK RTTY keying and a lockout, the Y-BOX also makes it
easy to connect an external +5V source, giving you an "all mode" lockout
circuit.

See the following for wiring examples.

   - Simple SO2R Lockout Circuit for CW and Phone
   
   - Simple SO2R Lockout Circuit for All Modes Including FSK
   

The 5V *regulated* linear power supply that I highly recommend for the
latter implementation is Jameco P/N 1953612

.

Be advised that these are not sophisticated "first one wins" or "last one
wins" lockout circuits.  If both radios try to transmit at the same time,
*neither* will be able to transmit.  That's because the KEY OUT line will
still close, even when a radio is inhibited from transmitting any RF, and
that locks out the other radio.

In way, that's a good thing, because both operators hear what is going on.
It is also makes it impossible for both rigs to transmit at the same time,
for even 1 ms, so you can safely power two K3s with a single 25A power
supply.  This lockout system works safely with all potential keying methods
including internal and external keying, K3 memories, KY commands, VOX
tripping, etc.  Other lockout systems using SO2R boxes or software commands
cannot provide the same safety.

But, attempting to give one radio "priority" by opening its TX INH line
does not work very well.  If a K3 is currently transmitting when its
Inhibit pin goes low, it takes approximately 10-500 ms before the RF
actually stops, so using a single power supply is no longer safe (it can
overload briefly), and there is technically a contest rules violation
because it's possible for both radios to transmit at the same time (though
briefly).

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:46 PM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That is not how you implement a pull-up resistor.
>
> Connect one end of the resistor to a +5 volt source.  Connect the other
> end to the TX INH pin.
> Then connect the control line between the TX INH pin and ground.
> If the control line is an open circuit when it should be inhibiting, set
> the TX INH menu to inhibit on high.
> OTOH, if the control line is closed circuit while inhibiting, set the TX
> INH to inhibit on low.
>
> You don't have to put the pullup resistor right at the ACC connector, it
> can be (and should be) near the contacts which control the open/short
> contacts.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/19/2018 12:47 PM, Brian Moran via Elecraft wrote:
> > With my early K3, I'm attempting to control the TX_INH line on the ACC
> Connector, and am finding this odd (to me) behavior.
> > Starting with the radio off, I'm driving the pin with either 0 or 5v
> through a 6.6K resistor per the Elecraft manual. I set the TX_INH mode to
> HI in the config screen, and even with the line NOT driven, TX_INH is
> indicated by the flashing TX in the display.
> > If I get out my Fluke VOM, I see that there's around 0.2v measured at
> pin 7... BUT THEN THE TX INHIBIT goes off (that is, it starts working as
> described in the manual)?  Is the TX_INH line floated in the radio?
> >   Do I need to also "pull down" this line to ground through a suitable
> high-value resistor?
> >
> > Adding a 470K ohm to ground seems to make everything happy. If this is
> expected behavior (requiring pull down as well as pull up), perhaps this
> could be mentioned in the manual in the future (maybe it only matters to my
> era of K3 radio -- #512)
> >
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[Elecraft] KXAT100 Tuner

[kstover]

I must have missed it but I am getting ready to order a KX Line and don't
see the KXAT100 option.

R. Kevin StoverAC0H

ARRL, FISTS, SKCC, NAQCC.
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20th.Just stop."


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[Elecraft] W2 Units For Sale

[Ernie Kluft]

	When I first got my K-Line I went a little nuts and also bought two 
W2 units

I no longer use them in my system, so after residing in my closet for 
awhile,
they are now for sale...

W2 with 2,000 watt sensor and USB interface cable   $250

W2 with 200 watt sensor, without interface cable$200

Both are in perfect cosmetic and operational condition, and I don't 
smoke...
Serious offers will be considered... Check or PayPal...  Ernie

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