Re: [Elecraft] fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

One basic rule from the TAX man.more crap = more problems.   
Always has been, always will be.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 4/7/2020 11:07 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
I wiggled all connections & conections,  then I took a small 50ohm 
load and inserted it at the few points from the radio thru my  TopTen 
relay setup    2 radios by two amps to 6 ants ( 5 ants & 1 dummy 
load).  The culprit was my big palstar auto tuner while off , was NOT 
in bypass.  With that set properly all is good. Hopefully the only 
screwup made while reconfiguring my station my stay at home project.


stay safe Jim


bill/3


On 4/7/2020 7:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 4/7/2020 12:43 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

Bob prompted what was my next step ..one short jumper to the load..


Expeditioners that do lots of portable setups have repeatedly 
preached that when anything goes wrong in a radio system to ALWAYS 
suspect a bad piece of coax, and usually a bad or poorly installed 
connector.


Back in the days when I was doing lots of live recording and sound 
reinforcement gigs, it was mic cables. A standard test was to plug a 
mic into the mixer with the cable(s) to test, listen on headphones 
with the gain up, and "rattle" both ends and the cable itself to 
expose any faults. To test coax cables, I'd do something equivalent 
with low power into a dummy load and watching SWR at the rig.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

[Bill Steffey NY9H]

I wiggled all connections & conections,  then I took a small 50ohm load 
and inserted it at the few points from the radio thru my  TopTen relay 
setup    2 radios by two amps to 6 ants ( 5 ants & 1 dummy load).  The 
culprit was my big palstar auto tuner while off , was NOT in bypass.  
With that set properly all is good. Hopefully the only screwup made 
while reconfiguring my station my stay at home project.


stay safe Jim


bill/3


On 4/7/2020 7:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 4/7/2020 12:43 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

Bob prompted what was my next step ..one short jumper to the load..


Expeditioners that do lots of portable setups have repeatedly preached 
that when anything goes wrong in a radio system to ALWAYS suspect a 
bad piece of coax, and usually a bad or poorly installed connector.


Back in the days when I was doing lots of live recording and sound 
reinforcement gigs, it was mic cables. A standard test was to plug a 
mic into the mixer with the cable(s) to test, listen on headphones 
with the gain up, and "rattle" both ends and the cable itself to 
expose any faults. To test coax cables, I'd do something equivalent 
with low power into a dummy load and watching SWR at the rig.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[Bill Frantz]

On 4/7/20 at 9:16 PM, scott.sm...@gmail.com (Tox) wrote:


Suggestions for a mobile HF antenna that could sanely be attached to a Rav4 ?


I have a Little Tarheel screwdriver antenna attached to my 
Subaru Forester. It seems to work well, the higher frequency 
bands are easier to use than the low frequency ones.


I remember a SSB contact with Denmark while my wife was driving 
on I40 in the Mojave. He was working stations all over north and 
south America. It was one of my first DX contacts.


I also remember using it on 80M with a 10W K3 during CQP. I 
would tune the radio, and when I found a station, I'd start 
transmitting and tuning the antenna. Usually by the time I got 
my call sign out the antenna was in tune. Every contact I made 
said, "You're really weak, but we'll make it work." Thanks to 
all of them for their efforts and the Qs.


On 80M it is more of a preselector than an antenna. hihi

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[Tox]

Suggestions for a mobile HF antenna that could sanely be attached to a Rav4 ?

Thanks
Scott
AD6YT

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 6:13 PM John Hendricks  wrote:
>
> I have used this combination successfully. Worked great if a efficent
> antenna is used on 20 meters.  Have now moved the combination to a go box,
> capable of Pactor, with more digital modes to come.
>
> John K7JLT
>
> John K7JLT
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 5:36 PM Steve KC6ZKT  wrote:
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> > I have been thinking about installing an HF mobile rig. One idea that
> > appeals to me is a KX3/KXPA100 setup, where the radio is can be placed
> > and hooked-up in (passenger side) glove box, and the amp is more
> > permanently installed under a back seat.
> >
> > I have two questions:
> >
> > 1) If you have tried this, can you tell me about your experience? How
> > did it work? How was it set-up? Etc.
> >
> > 2) What will I be giving up if I cannot really operate the controls on
> > the KXPA100 and only have the KX3 in front of me?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[John Hendricks]

I have used this combination successfully. Worked great if a efficent
antenna is used on 20 meters.  Have now moved the combination to a go box,
capable of Pactor, with more digital modes to come.

John K7JLT

John K7JLT

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 5:36 PM Steve KC6ZKT  wrote:

> I have been thinking about installing an HF mobile rig. One idea that
> appeals to me is a KX3/KXPA100 setup, where the radio is can be placed
> and hooked-up in (passenger side) glove box, and the amp is more
> permanently installed under a back seat.
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) If you have tried this, can you tell me about your experience? How
> did it work? How was it set-up? Etc.
>
> 2) What will I be giving up if I cannot really operate the controls on
> the KXPA100 and only have the KX3 in front of me?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[Phil Genera]

To your second point, nothing. I had my KXPA100 in my basement for a few
years, directly beneath my operating position. It worked great, after a bit
of hacking to get the serial port accessible to the computer upstairs, for
CAT control.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 20:35 Steve KC6ZKT  wrote:

> I have been thinking about installing an HF mobile rig. One idea that
> appeals to me is a KX3/KXPA100 setup, where the radio is can be placed
> and hooked-up in (passenger side) glove box, and the amp is more
> permanently installed under a back seat.
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) If you have tried this, can you tell me about your experience? How
> did it work? How was it set-up? Etc.
>
> 2) What will I be giving up if I cannot really operate the controls on
> the KXPA100 and only have the KX3 in front of me?
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[Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[Steve KC6ZKT]

I have been thinking about installing an HF mobile rig. One idea that
appeals to me is a KX3/KXPA100 setup, where the radio is can be placed
and hooked-up in (passenger side) glove box, and the amp is more
permanently installed under a back seat.

I have two questions:

1) If you have tried this, can you tell me about your experience? How
did it work? How was it set-up? Etc.

2) What will I be giving up if I cannot really operate the controls on
the KXPA100 and only have the KX3 in front of me?
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Re: [Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

[Jim Brown]

On 4/7/2020 12:43 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

Bob prompted what was my next step ..one short jumper to the load..


Expeditioners that do lots of portable setups have repeatedly preached 
that when anything goes wrong in a radio system to ALWAYS suspect a bad 
piece of coax, and usually a bad or poorly installed connector.


Back in the days when I was doing lots of live recording and sound 
reinforcement gigs, it was mic cables. A standard test was to plug a mic 
into the mixer with the cable(s) to test, listen on headphones with the 
gain up, and "rattle" both ends and the cable itself to expose any 
faults. To test coax cables, I'd do something equivalent with low power 
into a dummy load and watching SWR at the rig.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

[Bill Steffey NY9H]

yepper the radio is fine...  something between the k3  and the waters 
dummyload/wattmeter  did NOT like 10 mHz.


Bob prompted what was my next step ..one short jumper to the load...BINGO

Now I need to find just where that lump of something is hiding . I was 
fooled in that it calibrated up to 10mHz and manually looked good on all 
the other bands...


thanks Bob for precipitating me to do the right thing.

bill ny9h


On 4/7/2020 2:01 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

I’ve found that one should use a 12” to 18” jumper of known good condition and 
quality.  Use this jumper to connect the dummy load direct to the radio. No 
switches, and no tuners in bypass mode.

The dummy load should be 50 ohms +/- 5 (thats 10%)  ohms and be resistive.  
Light bulbs and soldered up resistors and the like,  aren’t resistive, meaning 
no reactance.   Don’t take what’s written on the label as fact!  They change!  
Measure them with an ohm meter and antenna bridge at several points from 1.8 
MHz to 54 MHz.  Anything greater than 1.1 to 1 is out of tolerance.

Run TX Gain cal on all bands.  Your results are only as accurate as your 
procedure and test equipment.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 7, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H  wrote:

thought it good day to do a tx calibration.

I don't very often use 30 meters..and today the calib quits at 30 meters 
saying  too high for calibration   4.1 swr...

All other bands indicate swr of 1.1 //  except 10mHz...


I looked and the 10mHz low pass filter is shared with 14mHZ... and 20 looks ok. Don't 
know if the problem is in the tuner while in "BYPASS " for the test, or 
elsewhere.   Any help ???  searching found nothing for me.


bill



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Re: [Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I’ve found that one should use a 12” to 18” jumper of known good condition and 
quality.  Use this jumper to connect the dummy load direct to the radio. No 
switches, and no tuners in bypass mode.  

The dummy load should be 50 ohms +/- 5 (thats 10%)  ohms and be resistive.  
Light bulbs and soldered up resistors and the like,  aren’t resistive, meaning 
no reactance.   Don’t take what’s written on the label as fact!  They change!  
Measure them with an ohm meter and antenna bridge at several points from 1.8 
MHz to 54 MHz.  Anything greater than 1.1 to 1 is out of tolerance.  

Run TX Gain cal on all bands.  Your results are only as accurate as your 
procedure and test equipment.  

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H  wrote:
> 
> thought it good day to do a tx calibration.
> 
> I don't very often use 30 meters..and today the calib quits at 30 meters 
> saying  too high for calibration   4.1 swr...
> 
> All other bands indicate swr of 1.1 //  except 10mHz...
> 
> 
> I looked and the 10mHz low pass filter is shared with 14mHZ... and 20 looks 
> ok. Don't know if the problem is in the tuner while in "BYPASS " for the 
> test, or elsewhere.   Any help ???  searching found nothing for me.
> 
> 
> bill
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> 
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[Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only

[Bill Steffey NY9H]

thought it good day to do a tx calibration.

I don't very often use 30 meters..    and today the calib quits at 30 
meters saying  too high for calibration   4.1 swr...


All other bands indicate swr of 1.1 //  except 10mHz...


I looked and the 10mHz low pass filter is shared with 14mHZ... and 20 
looks ok. Don't know if the problem is in the tuner while in "BYPASS " 
for the test, or elsewhere.   Any help ???  searching found nothing for me.



bill



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - NOT K3S - issue: TX Calibration fails on 6m only

[hawley, charles j jr]

Thanks for the information. I did not have a tuner in this K3S when it failed 
the 6M cal so I figured it was just marginal for some reason since it DID pass 
on the third try. I have read the Config menu now and see how to check the gain 
and do a manual cal if necessary.

I was just afraid to do the Cal again with the utility since it did eventually 
pass. I thought...leave it alone. But I did want to investigate the 6M gain 
etc. and understand what it was all about. I see now that I can do a manual Cal 
on 6M only if it becomes necessary. I need to learn to read the pages on menus 
in the manual as well as the index. I checked as you suggested and my gains are 
LP 10 watts and HP 34 at 50.135 MHz. Also I did as you suggested and the dummy 
load tune SWR is 1/1.1
So all good I guess.

Thank you again,

Chuck Hawley
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 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - NOT K3S - issue: TX Calibration fails on 6m only

Could be a burned trap on the KAT3 (most likely). Just jumper the coil,
L10 and it will bypass a burned capacitor. The trap was found to be
redundant.
Make sure 6m is on the correct antenna not 2.
In TUNE, does it really have High SWR?
Set ATU to BYP for any tests using dummy load.

Make sure TECH MD is on, then look at config menu TXGN HP (or LP below
12w [8w 6m]) for the gain number.
Try a manual TX gain cal on different parts of the band, every half a
meg or so and see if it will pass.
(set TUN PWR to nor, set power for 50w EXACTLY, then long press XMIT to
send a carrier at 50 w for several seconds)
Then check the TXGN number.
You can do it at 5.0 watts exactly for the LP gain cal.
Keith WE6R  Elecraft K3 Tech



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 issues with RIT and ATT Led's

[Stephen Roberts]

Several responded and it was a couple of things. First was that the main IC 
wasn't seated completely. I removed it, checked the pins and straightened them 
a bit. That apparently brought the LED's back to life so when I powered up I 
could see them initialize. Then I went to the menu and turned them on. Didn't 
even know there was a menu choice that controlled the LED's. Felt kinda dumb 
when I was told about that. Oh well, I'll take an easy fix any day...

Steve
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[Elecraft] K1 Issues with RIT and ATTN LED's not functioning

[Paul Kirley]

W1SFR sed:
I recently purchased a K1 and found that the LED's for the RIT and ATTN 
don't function correctly. When I turn on the rig the LED's cycle 
correctly then go out. When I push either of the buttons and turn the 
RIT or ATTN on, neither of the lights come on.


Since you recently bought the K1, you may not be aware that there is a 
menu setting for this.  Check the LED setting and verify that it is ON.  
It's on page 52 of my 2001 owner's manual.


73, Paul W8TM
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Re: [Elecraft] modification K2 use for KPA100

[Christophe aufacf]

hello don  and All ,

Thank you for the info

I'm going back to my K2

73 , F8ACF

#K2 7369 + KP100 in progress

Le lun. 6 avr. 2020 à 23:33, Don Wilhelm  a écrit :
>
> Christophe,
>
> Since your K2 is SN 7369, it does not need any modifications or
> alignment to add the KPA100 - that 10/12m VFO/ALC Mod kit is only for
> older K2s, those component changes are already present in your K2.
>
> You will have to add the headers on the RF Board if they are not already
> present.  The KPA100 manual will tell you when to install them.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 4/6/2020 4:03 PM, Christophe aufacf wrote:
> > Good afternoon all
> >
> > for the modifications of the K2 to put a KPA100
> >
> > must be done before putting the KPA100 so measurement and adjustments
> >
> > or can this be done once KP100 is set and installed?
> >
> > could give me the page in the manual of K2 or aligns 12 / 10M ?
> >
> > thank you in advance, I'm happy to get back on my K2 after more than 3
> > years off, so I have to get back in the bath
> >
> > # K2 7369 + KPA100 in progress
> >
> >



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