Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted

[JR]

K9YC said ... You get what you pay for. Yaesu has been making very dirty radios 
-- clicks
and splatter have been the rule.

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There is too much parochialism in ham radio.

A couple of ops say this, failing to prove the claim, or substantiate it applies beyond a 
couple of isolated cases.  While Mr. Sherwood knows ONE guy with a noisy FT3000,  there 
are loads of them in service in my market, and nobody considers them poor neighbors.  If 
they are all that bad, we would know it.   Such unsubstantiated claims reminds me of a 
similar row on the TT reflector, where some guy in Germany claimed the TS-890 is a 
"noise machine" compared to the TT Eagle - and failed to document more than two 
or three alleged cases, and today recommends the TS-890 as a good rig to buy!  K9YC 
published a paper purporting to document and quantify transmitter noise figures - which 
belies the claim and ultimately validates what the ARRL Lab told me - namely neither rig 
is a problem.  And, yet, the claim persists.

So, great ... he we go again.  More unsubstantiated nonsense.  This sort of 
parochialism both off-topic and does a disservice.  K8JHR




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Brian Denley]

Sorry about that Alan.

Brian
KB1VBF
Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 10:18 PM, a...@elecraft.com wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/2020 3:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2020 5:41 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:
>>> I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4.
>> 
>> There's been quite a bit from Wayne on this reflector, and updates in their 
>> monthly update. You may have heard that there's a pandemic, and the west 
>> coast has been experiencing massive wildfires.
> 
> I'm one of the Elecraft engineers who lost his home in the California 
> wildfires.  I lost a loaded K3, two of Rose's cases, P3/SVGA/TX-MON, K2, KX3, 
> PX3, W2, XG3, XG50, T1 and lots of other ham and test equipment.  Not to 
> mention my house and all the rest of its contents.
> 
> Now I get to start over.  I'm just about to order some new QSL cards.
> 
> My girlfriend wants me to buy some clothes, but first things first.  :=)
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Tom Azlin W7SUA]

Hi Tom,

If your current set up works well, why not just wait until the K4 is 
being delivered. Then choose.


I have the same set up as you for the past ten years. Am happy to wait 
for the call to come to me for a K4. I am in group 2.


73, tom w7sua

On 10/7/2020 5:41 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:

I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4. 
I’ve sent emails to Eric and Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls to 
Elecraft seem to indicate they have no idea either about what is going on. I am 
in the first group for the K4, but think this is unlikely to ever ship!

In the meantime, I am running my K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.

So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about what I should 
purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation is high speed CW, so ask 
is very important to me.

Maybe the Kenwood?

Your thoughts are solicited!

Tom W4KX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in a M/M HP environment question

[Jim Brown]

On 10/8/2020 4:26 PM, PAUL GACEK via Elecraft wrote:

I operated over the weekend as W6E as one half of a M/M HP County Expedition in 
CQP.

I ran the SSB side of the show and N6MI the CW. Scott has the FTDX101.

We were both operating 500w into similar spec-ed 2 element beams on 20/15/10. 
We were about 300-500 ft apart.

I’m looking for advice on how to minimize the CW thump thump I would hear when 
we were both on the same band. It didn’t raise a HI SIG warning on the K3s but 
it was audible enough to distract me especial if an adjacent station was 
bleeding into my band.


#1) Buy Scott a better radio. Yaesu radios are notorious for being a 
very bad neighbor. They're dirty, there's nothing another radio can do 
when the other radio is spewing trash on your frequency.


#2) Study my talk on multi-station interference for many things you can 
do with station building, antenna choice, feedline choice, antenna 
layout,and the use of serious ferrite chokes at every antenna feedpoint.


Also see my detailed analysis of ARRL Lab tests of a selected number of 
rigs. The raw data for my report came straight from ARRL Labs in 
electronic form. Also see ARRL Lab plots of keying bandwidth and phase 
noise for Scott's radio.


k9yc.com/publish.htm

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[PAUL GACEK via Elecraft]

Hey Alan

My heart goes out to you as your circumstances seem unimaginable to me.

I think 2020 is a year not many of us want to remember and generally if we do 
not too much of it's positive.

Your humor is admirable and should help all round including the un-male thing 
of having to do intensive clothes shopping. 

Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog 




> On Oct 8, 2020, at 7:17 PM, a...@elecraft.com wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/2020 3:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 10/7/2020 5:41 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:
>>> I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4.
>> 
>> There's been quite a bit from Wayne on this reflector, and updates in their 
>> monthly update. You may have heard that there's a pandemic, and the west 
>> coast has been experiencing massive wildfires.
> 
> I'm one of the Elecraft engineers who lost his home in the California 
> wildfires.  I lost a loaded K3, two of Rose's cases, P3/SVGA/TX-MON, K2, KX3, 
> PX3, W2, XG3, XG50, T1 and lots of other ham and test equipment.  Not to 
> mention my house and all the rest of its contents.
> 
> Now I get to start over.  I'm just about to order some new QSL cards.
> 
> My girlfriend wants me to buy some clothes, but first things first.  :=)
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[alan]

On 10/8/2020 3:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 10/7/2020 5:41 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:
I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about 
the K4.


There's been quite a bit from Wayne on this reflector, and updates in 
their monthly update. You may have heard that there's a pandemic, and 
the west coast has been experiencing massive wildfires.


I'm one of the Elecraft engineers who lost his home in the California 
wildfires.  I lost a loaded K3, two of Rose's cases, P3/SVGA/TX-MON, K2, 
KX3, PX3, W2, XG3, XG50, T1 and lots of other ham and test equipment.  
Not to mention my house and all the rest of its contents.


Now I get to start over.  I'm just about to order some new QSL cards.

My girlfriend wants me to buy some clothes, but first things first.  :=)

Alan N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Now: shipboard callsigns, was: W vs K broadcast station callsigns,

[Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197]

>From the FCC ULS:
KOHZ is assigned to The U. S. Coast Guard.Vessel Information:Ship
name: Oliver Hazard Perry Ship number: 1257224 Licensed to: Oliver
Hazard Perry Rhode Island

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 3:34 PM Mike Morrow  wrote:
>
> >You can have a licensed radiotelegraph station, OR
> >you can have small boats with permanent radio installations.
> >In 2014/5 I got OLIVER HAZARD PERRY the callsign KOHZ by citing that rule 
> >when
> >we did our original application, and installed radios in our small boats.
>
> Interesting.  There is currently no vessel of that name nor record of a 
> vessel with callsign KOHZ in the ITU maritime callsign database.
>
>   https://www.itu.int/mmsapp/ShipStation/list
>
> Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[w4sc]

It cost more to ship the shipping box to you for shipping your radio back to 
Elecraft than the shipping box cost.  Worth it!

Ben W4SC  K3/K3S box with foam inserts $26 shipping

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Re: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[Graydon Jensen]

https://elecraft.com/pages/shipping-box-sets-item-return-for-servicing

Here's a link to the order page, for different boxes.


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Subject: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

All,

 

I wonder if Elecraft would sell to its' consumers the boxes and packaging
material that would fit our radio, amps and other Elecraft products?

 

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

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Re: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[hawley, charles j jr]

They sell the shipping boxes

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 7:05 PM, weave...@usermail.com wrote:
> 
> I was dreaming of pulling the trigger on the K4 next year and was thinking 
> the same thing. This thread may save me a phone call :-).
> 
> My apologies to Jerry, W1IE for spamming his personal mailbox :-(
> 
> 73,
> Bill WE5P
> 
> Comfortably Numb
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 18:26, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wonder if Elecraft would sell to its' consumers the boxes and packaging
>> material that would fit our radio, amps and other Elecraft products?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jerry, W1IE
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Re: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[weave...@usermail.com]

I was dreaming of pulling the trigger on the K4 next year and was thinking the 
same thing. This thread may save me a phone call :-).

My apologies to Jerry, W1IE for spamming his personal mailbox :-(

73,
Bill WE5P

Comfortably Numb

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 18:26, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:
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> All,
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if Elecraft would sell to its' consumers the boxes and packaging
> material that would fit our radio, amps and other Elecraft products?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry, W1IE
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Re: [Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[Paul GACEK via Elecraft]

They do sell the styrofoam as I have bought some for my KPA500 

Paul

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 3:26 PM, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if Elecraft would sell to its' consumers the boxes and packaging
> material that would fit our radio, amps and other Elecraft products?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry, W1IE
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 firmware 2.48 beta available

[rocketnj]

Using 2.48 here and no issues ragchewing on 80 meters or doing digital
FT8/FT4 on several different bands. I have the XCVR port connected to the
USB port of a Flex 6700 via the KXUSB cable.

Dave wo2x


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Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:21 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 firmware 2.48 beta available

Correct link is:
https://elecraft.com/pages/kpa1500-1500-watt-linear-amplifier-firmware-and-u
tility

I used this version during CQP on two KPA1500s and had zero issues.

73,
Bob, N6TV


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Dick Dievendorff  wrote:

> We've made a new KPA1500 Beta firmware revision available on our web site.
>
>
>
> Details here, just after the middle of the page under heading "BETA 
> FIRMWARE INSTALLATION AND RELEASE NOTES"
>
>
>
>
> https://elecraft.com/pages/kpa1500-1500-watt-linear-amplifier-firmware
> -and-u
> tility
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[Elecraft] K3s in a M/M HP environment question

[PAUL GACEK via Elecraft]

I operated over the weekend as W6E as one half of a M/M HP County Expedition in 
CQP.

I ran the SSB side of the show and N6MI the CW. Scott has the FTDX101.

We were both operating 500w into similar spec-ed 2 element beams on 20/15/10. 
We were about 300-500 ft apart.

I’m looking for advice on how to minimize the CW thump thump I would hear when 
we were both on the same band. It didn’t raise a HI SIG warning on the K3s but 
it was audible enough to distract me especial if an adjacent station was 
bleeding into my band.

Maybe the solution is a K3s setting, maybe filters (tough) or better separation.

Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 charger failure?

[Rich NE1EE]

I just downloaded the schematic from the Elecraft site. I think this style of 
schematic, while space-saving, is difficult to read.
On p 9 @ B5, please find J1.
9-15VDC.
There you will see D6. I was expecting a different circuit, one that fed BAT+ 
and 15V+ each through a diode. That would provide a diode drop for each device, 
and provide reverse polarity protection.

If you are supplying 13.8V, the KX3 should report about 0.3-0.4V less. These 
are likely low forward drop diodes.

Even so, I am guessing that this is the correct place to look. Your problem 
suggests that if the voltage drops when good batteries are inserted, and pops 
back to 13.8Vdc when they are disconnected, then the problem might be in the 
charging logic. Some device may be making active choices for when to charge and 
when not to, and how much.

More than that is out of my league...

On 2020-10-09 00:23:+0200, István Szabó wrote:
>Rich, this is correct. I do not see diode on the charger board circuit 
>diagram. I am lost.
>73, István
>
>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 20:33, Rich NE1EE 
><73.de.ne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am missing a point:
>Istvan said When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 
>second and drops to 10.4V.
>Don replied so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts lower than the 
>external supply is normal.
>
>Istvan said When batteries removed the voltage shown on display 13.8V.
>
>I don't have a KX3, but I understand the diode issue..and it makes sense...but 
>a drop from 13.8 to 10.4 doesn't seem right to me.
>
>On 2020-10-08 18:56:+0200, István Szabó wrote:
>>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 15:58, Don Wilhelm 
>><donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Istvan,
>>
>>> There are protective diodes in series with both the internal batteries
>>> and the external supply, so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts
>>> lower than the external supply is normal.
>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 10/8/2020 2:53 AM, István Szabó wrote:
>>> > When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second and
>>> > drops to 10.4V. Eneloop batteries all OK 1.29V individually. Running a 4
>>> > hour charging cycle it turns off when voltage reached and shows the
>>> > dropped voltage. When batteries removed the voltage shown on display
>>> 13.8V.
>>> > Is it known failure, what can I do to fix it? 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Now: shipboard callsigns, was: W vs K broadcast station callsigns,

[Mike Morrow]

>You can have a licensed radiotelegraph station, OR
>you can have small boats with permanent radio installations.
>In 2014/5 I got OLIVER HAZARD PERRY the callsign KOHZ by citing that rule when
>we did our original application, and installed radios in our small boats.

Interesting.  There is currently no vessel of that name nor record of a vessel 
with callsign KOHZ in the ITU maritime callsign database.

  https://www.itu.int/mmsapp/ShipStation/list

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 info

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

I recommend checking the P3 Manual for the correct hookup.  You can either
use the optional CBLP3Y cable (a separate purchase) or the RJ-45 to DE9-F
adapter cable that is supplied with every K3S.  If using the latter, you
have to change CONFIG:RS232 to 38400 (not USB), and the USB cable can
only be used for the USB Audio CODEC, not rig control, and you use the same
serial cable you were using before, with the K3.  Otherwise, you need to
use the CBL3P3Y to make everything work with one USB cable (CONFIG:RS232
USB).

73,
Bob, N6TV


On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:14 PM Alan Bloom  wrote:

> I believe that means that there is no RS-232 connection between the K3S
> and P3.  Check the K3S manual for the correct hookup.
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
> On 10/8/2020 11:37 AM, Thaire Bryant wrote:
> > I have just noticed that after replacing my K3 with a K3S my P3 no longer
> > shows the center frequency of VFO A (7.234, 14.234, etc,).
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[Elecraft] Question about shipping.

[w1ie]

All,

 

I wonder if Elecraft would sell to its' consumers the boxes and packaging
material that would fit our radio, amps and other Elecraft products?

 

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 firmware 2.48 beta available

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

Correct link is:
https://elecraft.com/pages/kpa1500-1500-watt-linear-amplifier-firmware-and-utility

I used this version during CQP on two KPA1500s and had zero issues.

73,
Bob, N6TV


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:43 AM Dick Dievendorff  wrote:

> We've made a new KPA1500 Beta firmware revision available on our web site.
>
>
>
> Details here, just after the middle of the page under heading "BETA
> FIRMWARE
> INSTALLATION AND RELEASE NOTES"
>
>
>
>
> https://elecraft.com/pages/kpa1500-1500-watt-linear-amplifier-firmware-and-u
> tility
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>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Jim Brown]

On 10/7/2020 5:41 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft wrote:

I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4.


There's been quite a bit from Wayne on this reflector, and updates in 
their monthly update. You may have heard that there's a pandemic, and 
the west coast has been experiencing massive wildfires. Both of these 
disasters have caused huge disruption of our lives, businesses, the 
supply chain for every imaginable product. My neighbor K6XX, a 
manufacturing engineer at Elecraft, lost the superstation he had built 
from scratch on 80 acres he had cleared himself. That same fire burned 
out three other neighbor hams, and stopped at the edge of the road 
bordering our land.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available

[Grant Youngman]

Even if you could do that, it might not be as useful as you expect.  
Sections/topics are linked from a main page and keywords, but not paginated.  
And there’s no page numbered “index” to help you get around.  This is more of a 
greatly expanded “help" function than a typically organized manual.  It would 
be hard to get around in it on paper, unless you did a lot of reformatting 
and/or indexing before printing it.

Just one though on the subject.

Grant NQ5T

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Nigel Lemaire  wrote:
> 
> I kind of like that the K4 has a built in manual, which is no doubt updated 
> as required AUTOMATICALLY.
> 
> Is there a provision to print out the manual from the K4?  I'm pretty much a 
> "paper person" and print out all my manuals. Not having to revisit the 
> Elecraft web to see if a more recent version of a manual is available would 
> be a  nice bonus IMHO.
> 
> 73
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[Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available

[Nigel Lemaire]

I kind of like that the K4 has a built in manual, which is no doubt 
updated as required AUTOMATICALLY.


Is there a provision to print out the manual from the K4?  I'm pretty 
much a "paper person" and print out all my manuals. Not having to 
revisit the Elecraft web to see if a more recent version of a manual is 
available would be a  nice bonus IMHO.


73
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Doug,

If someone wants to translate the built-in manual into another language, we'll 
definitely make it accessible. In that case we would have to share the source 
material with them. It's authored as a Google doc so this is easy to do.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Oct 8, 2020, at 12:41 PM, turnbull  wrote:
> 
> Wayne fantastic.It would be a real coup if sometime it was possible to 
> add additional languages.   I know this is unreasonable and the suggestions 
> never ending.Such a project, unless some ops took on themselves to 
> produce this translation for their native tongue is insane.Do not look to 
> me for Gaelic.Now how is this for being unreasonable.You guys are 
> doing a fine job.
> 
> 73 Doug EI2CNU
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Wayne Burdick 
> Date: 08/10/2020 18:30 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available
> 
> The K4 has a complete operating manual built in, accessible by taping the "?" 
> icon at the lower left-hand corner of the screen. This is a convenient 
> supplement to the full owner's manual (in progress).
> 
> The built-in operating manual has small and large screen formats. It's a 
> hyperlinked .html document that will be continuously updated to reflect the 
> current software level. You can tap highlighted links on the LCD to 
> navigating forwards/backwards as in any browser, or search by entering text 
> using the on-screen keyboard. The "LAST CTRL" button allows you to go 
> directly to information pertaining to controls recently used.
> 
> Several early reviewers have vetted a draft of the built-in operating manual 
> (by viewing it with a browser on a computer or mobile device). It has been 
> revised and is now posted on our website, at:
> 
> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/K4%20Built-In%20Operating%20Manual%20rev%20A-7/K4BuiltInOperatingManualrevA7.html
> 
> Further suggestions or comments are welcome.
> 
> 
>   NOTE
> 
> 
> The built-in operating manual has a limited number of illustrations, since it 
> is intended to be used from within the radio itself, which provides context. 
> Another way to familiarize yourself with the front panel is to read through 
> the "Introduction to the Elecraft K4", at:
> 
> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4D vs K4HD

[Peter Chamalian]

Great, thanks Wayne.  It will be exciting to see these new rigs start to
roll off the assembly line and into the hands of users.


Pete, W1RM
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-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick  
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2020 1:10 PM
To: Peter Chamalian 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4D vs K4HD

Peter,

The K4HD has been delayed due to all the recent challenges (pandemic,
lockdown, fires). 

The K4D has been tested in heavy contesting conditions with stations in line
of sight each other, without any kind of overload issues reported. Like
these operators, most will find they don't need the HDR module. For those
who do, it'll be retrofittable at any point in time to convert a K4D into an
HD. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Peter Chamalian  wrote:
> 
> I've read the specs but I can't translate that into practical terms.  
> I suspect the K4HD is a better choice when you are in a multi 
> transmitter environment like FD or a multi-multi but are there other 
> situations where the HD is a better choice?  I do have a few local 
> hams and I have encountered some problems when we are on 6 meters but 
> otherwise no real interference or rx blocking problems.  I have  K3S.
> 
> 
> 
> Do any of the beta testers have a K4HD?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pete, W1RM
> 
> w...@comcast.net
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available

[turnbull]

Wayne fantastic.    It would be a real coup if sometime it was possible to add 
additional languages.   I know this is unreasonable and the suggestions never 
ending.    Such a project, unless some ops took on themselves to produce this 
translation for their native tongue is insane.    Do not look to me for Gaelic. 
   Now how is this for being unreasonable.    You guys are doing a fine job.73 
Doug EI2CNUSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Wayne Burdick  Date: 
08/10/2020  18:30  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: [Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now 
available The K4 has a complete operating manual built in, accessible by taping 
the "?" icon at the lower left-hand corner of the screen. This is a convenient 
supplement to the full owner's manual (in progress).The built-in operating 
manual has small and large screen formats. It's a hyperlinked .html document 
that will be continuously updated to reflect the current software level. You 
can tap highlighted links on the LCD to navigating forwards/backwards as in any 
browser, or search by entering text using the on-screen keyboard. The "LAST 
CTRL" button allows you to go directly to information pertaining to controls 
recently used.Several early reviewers have vetted a draft of the built-in 
operating manual (by viewing it with a browser on a computer or mobile device). 
It has been revised and is now posted on our website, 
at:https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/K4%20Built-In%20Operating%20Manual%20rev%20A-7/K4BuiltInOperatingManualrevA7.htmlFurther
 suggestions or comments are welcome.  NOTEThe built-in 
operating manual has a limited number of illustrations, since it is intended to 
be used from within the radio itself, which provides context. Another way to 
familiarize yourself with the front panel is to read through the "Introduction 
to the Elecraft K4", 
at:https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf73,WayneN6KR__Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Now: shipboard callsigns, was: W vs K broadcast station callsigns,

[Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197]

It turns out there are TWO ways you can get a 4 letter call for a
shipboard station-
You can have a licensed radiotelegraph station, OR
you can have small boats with permanent radio installations.
In 2014/5 I got OLIVER HAZARD PERRY the callsign KOHZ by citing that rule when
we did our original application, and installed radios in our small boats.

And as lagniappe, when BOUNTY was foundering in late October of 2012,
the master was licensed as KD4OHZ, and we used the Winlink station on board
with his callsign to communicate with the USCG by email.
I've always wondered if the former callsign was related to the latter. since
both boats were in the same category as sailing school vessels, and someone
at the FCC picked up on that.  But probably not.
73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 info

[Alan Bloom]

I believe that means that there is no RS-232 connection between the K3S 
and P3.  Check the K3S manual for the correct hookup.


Alan N1AL


On 10/8/2020 11:37 AM, Thaire Bryant wrote:

I have just noticed that after replacing my K3 with a K3S my P3 no longer
shows the center frequency of VFO A (7.234, 14.234, etc,).

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 charger failure?

[Rich NE1EE]

I am missing a point:
Istvan said When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second 
and drops to 10.4V.
Don replied so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts lower than the 
external supply is normal.

Istvan said When batteries removed the voltage shown on display 13.8V.

I don't have a KX3, but I understand the diode issue..and it makes sense...but 
a drop from 13.8 to 10.4 doesn't seem right to me.

On 2020-10-08 18:56:+0200, István Szabó wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 15:58, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
>> Istvan,
>
>> There are protective diodes in series with both the internal batteries
>> and the external supply, so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts
>> lower than the external supply is normal.
>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 10/8/2020 2:53 AM, István Szabó wrote:
>> > When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second and
>> > drops to 10.4V. Eneloop batteries all OK 1.29V individually. Running a 4
>> > hour charging cycle it turns off when voltage reached and shows the
>> > dropped voltage. When batteries removed the voltage shown on display
>> 13.8V.
>> > Is it known failure, what can I do to fix it?

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[Elecraft] K4 Status

[Tom Doligalski via Elecraft]

Just got off the phone with Eric. The K4 is steadily shipping, and they are 
working diligently to get through the huge numbers of orders.The company is in 
fine shape, thanks to the huge numbers of orders.

Eric will be posting an update later today.

Tom W4KX


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[Elecraft] P3 info

[Thaire Bryant]

I have just noticed that after replacing my K3 with a K3S my P3 no longer
shows the center frequency of VFO A (7.234, 14.234, etc,).  I cannot find
any info in the manual or the Fred Katy book.  Could I have miss-cabled or
changed a menu option inadvertently.  All other functions are normal.

 

Thanks in advance for any info,

73

Thaire  W2APF  

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[Elecraft] K4 built-in operating manual now available

[Wayne Burdick]

The K4 has a complete operating manual built in, accessible by taping the "?" 
icon at the lower left-hand corner of the screen. This is a convenient 
supplement to the full owner's manual (in progress).

The built-in operating manual has small and large screen formats. It's a 
hyperlinked .html document that will be continuously updated to reflect the 
current software level. You can tap highlighted links on the LCD to navigating 
forwards/backwards as in any browser, or search by entering text using the 
on-screen keyboard. The "LAST CTRL" button allows you to go directly to 
information pertaining to controls recently used.

Several early reviewers have vetted a draft of the built-in operating manual 
(by viewing it with a browser on a computer or mobile device). It has been 
revised and is now posted on our website, at:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/K4%20Built-In%20Operating%20Manual%20rev%20A-7/K4BuiltInOperatingManualrevA7.html

Further suggestions or comments are welcome.


  NOTE


The built-in operating manual has a limited number of illustrations, since it 
is intended to be used from within the radio itself, which provides context. 
Another way to familiarize yourself with the front panel is to read through the 
"Introduction to the Elecraft K4", at:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] K4D vs K4HD

[Wayne Burdick]

Peter,

The K4HD has been delayed due to all the recent challenges (pandemic, lockdown, 
fires). 

The K4D has been tested in heavy contesting conditions with stations in line of 
sight each other, without any kind of overload issues reported. Like these 
operators, most will find they don't need the HDR module. For those who do, 
it'll be retrofittable at any point in time to convert a K4D into an HD. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 8, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Peter Chamalian  wrote:
> 
> I've read the specs but I can't translate that into practical terms.  I
> suspect the K4HD is a better choice when you are in a multi transmitter
> environment like FD or a multi-multi but are there other situations where
> the HD is a better choice?  I do have a few local hams and I have
> encountered some problems when we are on 6 meters but otherwise no real
> interference or rx blocking problems.  I have  K3S.
> 
> 
> 
> Do any of the beta testers have a K4HD?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pete, W1RM
> 
> w...@comcast.net
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 charger failure?

[István Szabó]

Don,
This value is shown when the 13.8V PS is connected. It had shown the PS
value before, have I missed something?
73, István HA4ZD

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 15:58, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Istvan,
>
> There are protective diodes in series with both the internal batteries
> and the external supply, so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts
> lower than the external supply is normal.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/8/2020 2:53 AM, István Szabó wrote:
> > When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second and
> > drops to 10.4V. Eneloop batteries all OK 1.29V individually. Running a 4
> > hour charging cycle it turns off when voltage reached and shows the
> > dropped voltage. When batteries removed the voltage shown on display
> 13.8V.
> > Is it known failure, what can I do to fix it?
>
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[Elecraft] K4D vs K4HD

[Peter Chamalian]

I've read the specs but I can't translate that into practical terms.  I
suspect the K4HD is a better choice when you are in a multi transmitter
environment like FD or a multi-multi but are there other situations where
the HD is a better choice?  I do have a few local hams and I have
encountered some problems when we are on 6 meters but otherwise no real
interference or rx blocking problems.  I have  K3S.

 

Do any of the beta testers have a K4HD?  

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Case for K4

[Grant Youngman]

I believe Rose posted previously that she would not be making soft cases for 
the K4.  That may have changed, though.

While I have both KX3 and K3/P3 DX cases from Rose, I’m probably going to 
purchases a Pelican or similar for the K4.

Grant NQ5T

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Jim H via Elecraft  
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[turnbull]

Yea, Good news.    Get some sleep though.   TU Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung 
Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Wayne Burdick  Date: 
08/10/2020  16:59  (GMT+00:00) To: John Shingara  Cc: 
Elecraft Reflector  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 
replacement? Sorry for the infrequent communications from our end. We're all 
working OT on manufacturing ramp-up.Eric will be doing an update very 
soon.73,WayneN6KR> On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:46 AM, John Shingara 
 wrote:> > Tom,> > The Kenwood TS-890 is on my short list 
should I grow too impatient waiting for the K-4.  I have almost pulled the 
trigger many times on it.  > > That said, earlier in this waiting process I 
bought a Flex 6400M and almost immediately regretted it.  Great radio, but not 
an Elecraft and not for me.  I sold it and am now focusing on working my KX3 
and KX2 QRP in the field.  Getting a new shiny transceiver now is wonderful, 
but if it isn’t the one you really want, you may have buyers remorse later.  
Luckily I only lost about $400 on my Flex folly.  I’m waiting for the K4 and 
I’m in the second group so I still have a long wait.  Maybe this time next 
year.  > > John> WB3EYB > >> On Oct 8, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Doligalski via 
Elecraft  wrote:>> >> I am a bit depressed about the 
lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4. I’ve sent emails to Eric and 
Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls to Elecraft seem to indicate they have 
no idea either about what is going on. I am in the first group for the K4, but 
think this is unlikely to ever ship!>> >> In the meantime, I am running my 
K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.>> >> So, the purpose of this email is to 
generate information about what I should purchase to replace the K3. My 
predominant operation is high speed CW, so ask is very important to me.>> >> 
Maybe the Kenwood? >> >> Your thoughts are solicited!>> >> Tom W4KX>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 battery upgrade?

[Steve KC6ZKT]

I received about the same number of similar comments off-list as you've 
seen on-list. (Thanks!) So at least twenty of us would eagerly buy such 
an upgrade to the KX3 (see my previous post, below).


I suspect that the Elecraft folks don't have the bandwidth to work on 
such a thing right now. If we want it bad enough, we might need to take 
it into our own hands.


If any of you out there have mad CAD skills, and are looking for a 
project, contact me off-list. Perhaps we can do a little feasibility 
study by drafting a preliminary design of a KXBC3 replacement.



On 10/6/20 2:28 PM, Paul Maciel wrote:

Hi Steve,

Yes, I would like to see this.  I no longer even bother installing the 
internal batteries but just carry along a Bioenno pack.


I have not heard of any 3rd party solutions.

---Paul AK1P

On 10/5/2020 5:47 PM, Steve KC6ZKT wrote:
The KX3 is my favorite of my HF radios right now. But one of my 
annoyances is the internal battery limitations.


I always wind up carrying an external 6_Ah or 10_Ah LiFePo4 battery 
into the field when I use this radio, an external charge controller, 
and solar panel. It's not a big problem, but it also should not be a 
big project to improve this situation. The KXBC3 has enough real 
estate to include a lithium battery charger, and even a solar charge 
controller in its space. The amount of battery energy that could fit 
in-place of the NiMH cells could approximately triple the capacity of 
the AA cells.


So I have these questions:

1) How many of you out there might buy an upgrade which replaces the 
KXBC3 board with a lithium battery manager, and a associated battery 
pack?


2) Are there any 3rd parties already making anything like this?



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[Elecraft] Case for K4

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Hi ,I believe Rose is still making cases.  Try"elecraftcov...@gmail.com"Jim 
HK7sss In a message dated 10/8/2020 12:03:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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Does anyone know if Rose (?) is still making cases for Elecraft equipment? 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Mike Morrow]

> So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about
> what I should purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation
> is high speed CW, so ask is very important to me.
>
> Maybe the Kenwood? 
>
> Your thoughts are solicited!
>
> Tom W4KX

Get a KX2.  It will probably be at least a couple of years before announcement 
of its replacement will make it instantly obsolete and unusable in the manner 
that the K4 obviously has made your K3 for you.  :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Wayne Burdick]

Sorry for the infrequent communications from our end. We're all working OT on 
manufacturing ramp-up.

Eric will be doing an update very soon.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:46 AM, John Shingara  wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> The Kenwood TS-890 is on my short list should I grow too impatient waiting 
> for the K-4.  I have almost pulled the trigger many times on it.  
> 
> That said, earlier in this waiting process I bought a Flex 6400M and almost 
> immediately regretted it.  Great radio, but not an Elecraft and not for me.  
> I sold it and am now focusing on working my KX3 and KX2 QRP in the field.  
> Getting a new shiny transceiver now is wonderful, but if it isn’t the one you 
> really want, you may have buyers remorse later.  Luckily I only lost about 
> $400 on my Flex folly.  I’m waiting for the K4 and I’m in the second group so 
> I still have a long wait.  Maybe this time next year.  
> 
> John
> WB3EYB 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4. 
>> I’ve sent emails to Eric and Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls to 
>> Elecraft seem to indicate they have no idea either about what is going on. I 
>> am in the first group for the K4, but think this is unlikely to ever ship!
>> 
>> In the meantime, I am running my K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.
>> 
>> So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about what I should 
>> purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation is high speed CW, so 
>> ask is very important to me.
>> 
>> Maybe the Kenwood? 
>> 
>> Your thoughts are solicited!
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Tox]

Thanks. I finally got ny refund for first group K4D. Was looking at a 6400,
because I don't do cw right now, but will take a look at the 890 as well.

73
Scott
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020, 8:47 AM John Shingara  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> The Kenwood TS-890 is on my short list should I grow too impatient waiting
> for the K-4.  I have almost pulled the trigger many times on it.
>
> That said, earlier in this waiting process I bought a Flex 6400M and
> almost immediately regretted it.  Great radio, but not an Elecraft and not
> for me.  I sold it and am now focusing on working my KX3 and KX2 QRP in the
> field.  Getting a new shiny transceiver now is wonderful, but if it isn’t
> the one you really want, you may have buyers remorse later.  Luckily I only
> lost about $400 on my Flex folly.  I’m waiting for the K4 and I’m in the
> second group so I still have a long wait.  Maybe this time next year.
>
> John
> WB3EYB
>
> > On Oct 8, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the
> K4. I’ve sent emails to Eric and Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls
> to Elecraft seem to indicate they have no idea either about what is going
> on. I am in the first group for the K4, but think this is unlikely to ever
> ship!
> >
> > In the meantime, I am running my K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.
> >
> > So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about what I
> should purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation is high speed
> CW, so ask is very important to me.
> >
> > Maybe the Kenwood?
> >
> > Your thoughts are solicited!
> >
> > Tom W4KX
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[John Shingara]

Tom,

The Kenwood TS-890 is on my short list should I grow too impatient waiting for 
the K-4.  I have almost pulled the trigger many times on it.  

That said, earlier in this waiting process I bought a Flex 6400M and almost 
immediately regretted it.  Great radio, but not an Elecraft and not for me.  I 
sold it and am now focusing on working my KX3 and KX2 QRP in the field.  
Getting a new shiny transceiver now is wonderful, but if it isn’t the one you 
really want, you may have buyers remorse later.  Luckily I only lost about $400 
on my Flex folly.  I’m waiting for the K4 and I’m in the second group so I 
still have a long wait.  Maybe this time next year.  

John
WB3EYB 

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4. 
> I’ve sent emails to Eric and Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls to 
> Elecraft seem to indicate they have no idea either about what is going on. I 
> am in the first group for the K4, but think this is unlikely to ever ship!
> 
> In the meantime, I am running my K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.
> 
> So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about what I should 
> purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation is high speed CW, so ask 
> is very important to me.
> 
> Maybe the Kenwood? 
> 
> Your thoughts are solicited!
> 
> Tom W4KX
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[Elecraft] K4 replacement?

[Tom Doligalski via Elecraft]

I am a bit depressed about the lack of feedback from Elecraft about the K4. 
I’ve sent emails to Eric and Wayne, with no response. Telephone calls to 
Elecraft seem to indicate they have no idea either about what is going on. I am 
in the first group for the K4, but think this is unlikely to ever ship!

In the meantime, I am running my K3/P3/KPA500/KTA500. Works well.

So, the purpose of this email is to generate information about what I should 
purchase to replace the K3. My predominant operation is high speed CW, so ask 
is very important to me.

Maybe the Kenwood? 

Your thoughts are solicited!

Tom W4KX
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[Elecraft] SSB Net for 10-4-2020

[Eric Lanzl]

This is a re-submission of the SSB for Sunday, October 4th. I hope this format 
will work this time. 
Eric WB9JNZ

Call Name  State   Radio  Serial #   QRP
 Notes

WB9JNZ   Eric    IL    K3  
4017   NetControl

K8NU/7   Carl    OH/WA   Yaesu FT 2000  
 

NC0JW Jim CO KX3   1356 
  RelayStation

N6JW    John  CA K3  
936     RelayStation

K7BRR  Bill  AZ  K3S    
10939     

W1NGA   Al   CO FLEX  6400 
M  

AB7CE  Roy    MT    K2/100 40   
     

N4NRW   Roger   SC  K3  1318
   RelayStation

KO5V    Jim NM   K2/100 7225
   RelayStation

N6PGQ    Bob   CA K3  5891  
     

W7QHD   Kurt   AZ  K2/100 1538  
     

K7JG John  WA    KX3   3519 
  

WM6P  Steve    GA K3S    11453  
   RelayStation

W4DML   Doug TN K3  6433
   

K9DXO Bob   IL    ICOM   7300   
    

WD0AKZ  George    MN   KX3   4830   
    

KC1ACL    Steve    NM   KX3   10677 
    

N6KR    Wayne CA K4  2  
    

W6FB    Jack   CA K3  
2905   

K6VWE Stan  MI K3  650  
   

N8SBE  Dave MI K3S    11361 
    

N9CPD Chuck   IL    YaesuFT 991 
    

KB3FBR    Joe    PA K2  
6178   
  KD2KKG   Robert  NY   KX3 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 off frequency?

[David Olean]

Hello Elecrafters,

I had a similar problem with a K3 this past March. My brother had his K3 
die and I offered to look at it for him.  He claimed that he could only 
hear things on part of 80 meters. All the other bands were dead on RX 
and TX.  When I checked it, I found similar symptoms. At one point it 
started working again normally, then, with the next power cycle, it died 
again.  The problem was traced to the synthezizer.  Board layout 
diagrams are a bit sketchy for troubleshooting. I contacted Customer 
Support and a wondeful tech guy gave me some pointers on where to look.


The problem, while seeming to be serious, turned out to be a simple 
fix.  The 8 volt three terminal regulator mounted on the side panel had 
rolled over and died.  When I got everything running again, I made some 
notes (complete with pictures and arrows )  I tried to attach it to my 
response to N2RD and the reflector, but the  e mail was rejected as it 
was too big. I think the notes are pretty good as it shows where to look 
for voltages involved with the synthesizer, as well as LO signal levels 
and frequencies, on each band for the receive and transmit paths.


Is there a simple way I can post these notes so all can see it? I did 
send them to N2RD to help him figure things out.  If anyone is 
interested, I can send them the note. It is a WORD document and is about 
3.2MB in size.  The size is due to color pictures of the circuit boards 
showing the test points etc.


73

Dave K1WHS

On 10/7/2020 11:26 AM, Rajiv Dewan via Elecraft wrote:

My K3 (with all S upgrades, ser #170) stopped working over the weekend.  I 
noticed that on 80m, while the frequency on the rig was 3574, the frequency 
reported by KAT500 was 3152 (or so).   No output on any other band.  I then 
checked reception of WWV - no reception of the 10Mhz signal.  I fed in a -50dBm 
signal at 3574KHz.  No reception.

I am going to crack the case on the weekend.

The only think I can think of is that something has shaken loose as the rig was 
transported by car a while ago.  Given the odd frequency, I am thinking that it 
may in the LO chain.

Any thoughts?

Raj, N2RD
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 charger failure?

[Don Wilhelm]

Istvan,

There are protective diodes in series with both the internal batteries 
and the external supply, so the fact that the KX3 shows 0.3 to 0.4 volts 
lower than the external supply is normal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/8/2020 2:53 AM, István Szabó wrote:

When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second and
drops to 10.4V. Eneloop batteries all OK 1.29V individually. Running a 4
hour charging cycle it turns off when voltage reached and shows the
dropped voltage. When batteries removed the voltage shown on display 13.8V.
Is it known failure, what can I do to fix it?

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[Elecraft] WTB K60XV

[Cristian Radulescu via Elecraft]

Hi guys,I would like to buy a K60XV kit or assembled.PM me please on yahoo or 
callsign at gmail dot com.73' de YO3IAZ, CristianK2 #6641
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[Elecraft] Case for K4

[Richard Allen]

Does anyone know if Rose (?) is still making cases for Elecraft equipment?

Richard W5SXD

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[Elecraft] KX3 charger failure?

[István Szabó]

When I plug in the 13.8V PS the radio shows 13.8V for only 1 second and
drops to 10.4V. Eneloop batteries all OK 1.29V individually. Running a 4
hour charging cycle it turns off when voltage reached and shows the
dropped voltage. When batteries removed the voltage shown on display 13.8V.
Is it known failure, what can I do to fix it?
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