Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Dave Cole]

Thanks Wayne for clearing that up...  I was getting worried there...



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On 12/6/20 9:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

This is not correct.

For technical reasons, we've been using a somewhat outdated Kernel during the 
past year's development. (This simplified some logistics for the team, while 
having virtually no impact on K4 users.) All current users are getting updated 
along with our development team, and it was completely painless. It'll all be 
history by the end of next week. A one-time reckoning.

Now that we've gotten this task out of the way, all future upgrades should go 
very smoothly. In the vast majority of cases only the application code will be 
updated.

And don't worry: as a user of the K4, you won't have to even think about linux 
OS issues, linux commands, and other arch-nerdly stuff. Updates are essentially 
one-click (maybe two).

It's a radio, not a computer

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Dec 6, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:

Hi Paul,

I want to check my understanding of what you just said:

For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft, triggered a 
shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:

Greetings...
This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.
I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that they made
a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT do a
major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in the Linux
operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field testers are
beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe there will
be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed explanation.
Keep Well
Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Grant Youngman]

That’s the best simple statement of fact I’ve seen on-line all day!

Grant NQ5T


> It's a radio, not a computer
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Wayne Burdick]

This is not correct.

For technical reasons, we've been using a somewhat outdated Kernel during the 
past year's development. (This simplified some logistics for the team, while 
having virtually no impact on K4 users.) All current users are getting updated 
along with our development team, and it was completely painless. It'll all be 
history by the end of next week. A one-time reckoning.

Now that we've gotten this task out of the way, all future upgrades should go 
very smoothly. In the vast majority of cases only the application code will be 
updated.

And don't worry: as a user of the K4, you won't have to even think about linux 
OS issues, linux commands, and other arch-nerdly stuff. Updates are essentially 
one-click (maybe two). 

It's a radio, not a computer

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Dec 6, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I want to check my understanding of what you just said:
> 
> For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft, triggered a 
> shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
>> Greetings...
>> This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.
>> I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that they made
>> a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT do a
>> major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in the Linux
>> operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field testers are
>> beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
>> affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe there will
>> be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed explanation.
>> Keep Well
>> Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets

[Jim Brown]

On 12/6/2020 6:51 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the
Headsets have audio but not both of them?


Check the table of Config Settings in the Manual. It's been there since 
2008. :)


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortened dits - you can remedy this under N1MM+

[john]

I have never heard of this issue until your post. In DX contests, dits
sometimes disappear so we certainly to done want wimpy dits!  Does this
issue also exist with the K3S? Is there a similar solution for those of us
that use Writelog?

John KK9A

Dave Hachadorian K6LL wrote:

I found out today that there is another way to change weight under N1MM - 
config/ports/other tab/weight.

I wonder how many people do not realize that K3's  lighten CW keying applied

through the KEY jack, and that their dits are wimpy?  I operated that way 
for 12 years, until W3LPL told me about it yesterday.  The K3 monitor sounds

normal.

Life is too short for wimpy dits!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

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[Elecraft] Learning a lesson

[John Mcclun]

You would think I’d learn the lesson!  I bought and built K2 #’s 406, 3638 (as 
QRP) and then 6959 as 100 W.  Number 406 as CW only, 3638 as SSB and 6959 all 
mods.  For some reason (excitement of a new radio?) I sold them.  Now I’ve 
purchased a used 100W w/ ATU number 4031.  I hope I’ve learned my lesson and 
this one is here to stay.  I always miss the ease of use, receive quietness and 
the compact size.  So out with my Flex 1500 and my Xeigu G-90 and in with the 
tried and true K2.


John McClun


NA3NA

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Re: [Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets

[Fred Jensen]

SPKR+PH Off?

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe CountyKR+PH off?

On 12/6/2020 6:51 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:

I have my Heil headset plugged into the front-panel 'Phones' jack.

Yet I am also hearing audio through the speakers.

Seems to me I never had the speakers "Also" playing when I was using the
headsets.

Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the
Headsets have audio but not both of them?

thanks




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[Elecraft] Speakers and HeadSets

[Bob KD7YZ]

I have my Heil headset plugged into the front-panel 'Phones' jack.

Yet I am also hearing audio through the speakers.

Seems to me I never had the speakers "Also" playing when I was using the
headsets.

Anyone enlighten me on how to set the Config so the speakers OR the
Headsets have audio but not both of them?

thanks


-- 
73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

Puppy training, snow blowing, bird feeding, and weather covers the list 
of topics from the twenty meter net.  Right as I called NO8V the ferns 
started to move about twenty feet in front of me. A very sleepy doe woke 
up as I gave him a 539.  Then, as he was chatting, another doe woke up 
about ten feet behind the first. First they stretched then started 
eating.  The sword ferns provide food and act as mattresses, how convenient.



  On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

NO8V - John - MI

K6XK - Roy - IA

AB9V - Mike - IN

K4JPN - Steve - GA


  On 7047.5 kHz at 0030z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K4TO - Dave - KY

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K4WJ - John - FL

W8OV - Dave - TX


Only one complaint of cold.  From Kentucky no less.  But snow, followed 
by rain and clouds is always daunting.  Some time around late January 
the steady gloom of the Pacific Northwest becomes oppressive.  Folks 
have been known to travel east of the Cascades to see what the sun looks 
like.  There was mention of chilly weather from California's central 
valley.  I took that report with a grain of salt :)


Until next week stay well 73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


-


Sync, cinq, sunk


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortened dits - you can remedy this under N1MM+

[Dave Hachadorian]

I found out today that there is another way to change weight under N1MM - 
config/ports/other tab/weight.


I wonder how many people do not realize that K3's  lighten CW keying applied 
through the KEY jack, and that their dits are wimpy?  I operated that way 
for 12 years, until W3LPL told me about it yesterday.  The K3 monitor sounds 
normal.


Life is too short for wimpy dits!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



-Original Message- 
From: Douglas Zwiebel

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 6:38 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 shortened dits - you can remedy this under N1MM+

In N1MM+
Go to Configurer
Select WINKEY tab
Change value in the Keying Compensation window to 6
Magic

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Rick Bates, NK7I]

The shortest answer is:  That's not possible. It's an evolving OS like 
any other; change is inevitable.


Rick NK7I


On 12/6/2020 4:13 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

Hi Paul,

Not to pick nits, but I would rather have them write code that does 
not worry them when the Linux kernel is updated.


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On 12/6/20 3:59 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
I believe you are correct, only Eric can tell you the exact.  I would 
rather have it that way,  It would tick me off immensely if they just 
passed through and the possible bug would show up later. They are 
more apt to play their cards a lot closer than many other manufacturers


Paul  KB9AVO

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 6:52 PM Dave Cole > wrote:


    Hi Paul,

    I want to check my understanding of what you just said:

    For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft,
    triggered a shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?

    73, and thanks,
    Dave (NK7Z)
    https://www.nk7z.net
    ARRL Volunteer Examiner
    ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
    ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

    On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
 > Greetings...
 >
 > This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.
 >
 > I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that
    they made
 > a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT
    do a
 > major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in
    the Linux
 > operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field
    testers are
 > beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have 
adverse

 > affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe
    there will
 > be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed
    explanation.
 >
 > Keep Well
 >
 > Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Rick Bates, NK7I]

Usually any kernel update has to do with security issues (that's a very 
broad stroke) so freezing it would leave security gaps or known issues.


Then there are files that constantly seem to update (i.e. the time zone 
files are a constant state of update; who knew it was so tough to figure 
zone changes?).


And there may be improved drivers for the hardware, which may break 
things relying on eccentricities of the old driver...  Or drivers for 
new hardware since the last release instead of the generic driver that 
was used.


I randomly update my linux machines, no pattern at all but months apart 
is a fair guess.  They don't have many ports or services available so 
while they're still attacked, so far, there haven't been any successful 
break ins.  I also split the duties to various computers around the 
house (the router knows all and puts one linux box in the DMZ and it's 
secure enough to handle it).  Without knowing what I did, the end user 
doesn't have a clue what machine or OS I'm using.


Sometimes even the version (and support) have had a major update, which 
may change a lot of things in one pass. That's not always good.


Often the audio breaks because the app used to manipulate or process the 
audio is deprecated; so scripts or similar that call the apps must be 
adapted...


It's an evolving OS as any other, which means changes.

I'm sure Elecraft will stay on top of it.  Keep the faith.  Their name 
and rep is on the line and they treat things in that manner.


73,
Rick NK7I



On 12/6/2020 4:49 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Was wondering that myself, Carl.  But then, I can think of two broad 
reasons:


1.  The Linux update fixes a serious flaw that was adversely affecting 
the Elecraft FW


2.  The update does something that, if capitalized on, would have a 
serious positive effect on the Elecraft FW capability/performance


In any case, Wayne and Eric [and the rest of the crew for that matter] 
are not neophytes in this business.  I'm sure the reasons were good.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/6/2020 4:36 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
Hmmm. Not sure why they don’t “freeze” the version of Linux that they 
have for now.





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[Elecraft] K3 shortened dits - you can remedy this under N1MM+

[Douglas Zwiebel]

In N1MM+
Go to Configurer
Select WINKEY tab
Change value in the Keying Compensation window to 6
Magic

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Dave Cole]

Hi Bill,

Hopefully Elecraft will be speedy with updates, I am sure they will be, 
as they have a superb history of support,


The security aspect was my concern-- freezing the OS is bad, and I doubt 
they will do that.


This however now brings up the question of what happens if Elecraft goes 
out of business.  Hopefully not, but it has to be looked at...


They could then Open Source the code for the rig at that point...  Maybe 
put the source in escrow now, against that eventuality, and keep the 
escrow updated with current code...


73, and thanks,
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On 12/6/20 4:53 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
It is a really poor idea to freeze an OS that is connected to the public 
Internet. You need to keep up on the security updates. (Ditto for 
Windows, MacOS, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD to mention several.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/6/20 at 7:36 PM, cyaf...@gmail.com (Carl Yaffey) wrote:

Hmmm. Not sure why they don’t “freeze” the version of Linux that they 
have for now.



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Bill Frantz]

It is a really poor idea to freeze an OS that is connected to 
the public Internet. You need to keep up on the security 
updates. (Ditto for Windows, MacOS, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD to 
mention several.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/6/20 at 7:36 PM, cyaf...@gmail.com (Carl Yaffey) wrote:


Hmmm. Not sure why they don’t “freeze” the version of Linux that they have for 
now.



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Fred Jensen]

Was wondering that myself, Carl.  But then, I can think of two broad 
reasons:


1.  The Linux update fixes a serious flaw that was adversely affecting 
the Elecraft FW


2.  The update does something that, if capitalized on, would have a 
serious positive effect on the Elecraft FW capability/performance


In any case, Wayne and Eric [and the rest of the crew for that matter] 
are not neophytes in this business.  I'm sure the reasons were good.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/6/2020 4:36 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote:

Hmmm. Not sure why they don’t “freeze” the version of Linux that they have for 
now.




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Carl Yaffey]

Hmmm. Not sure why they don’t “freeze” the version of Linux that they have for 
now. 

> On Dec 6, 2020, at 7:29 PM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 5:14 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> Not to pick nits, but I would rather have them write code that does not
>> worry them when the Linux kernel is updated.
> 
> Unfortunately, that is not possible.
> 
> I've been working with Linux for decades now. Unfortunately, they
> sometimes change stuff in the kernel that you never even guessed would
> change that breaks your code. It's the way it is. Sometimes it is for
> security reasons. It's just a cost of using Linux. Windows, IOS are no
> different. Stuff breaks all the time. At least with Linux you can look
> at the source code to see exactly what changed and how to fix your
> code. I expect Elecraft will get it sorted out quickly. They are smart
> folks.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Mark Goldberg]

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 5:14 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Not to pick nits, but I would rather have them write code that does not
> worry them when the Linux kernel is updated.

Unfortunately, that is not possible.

I've been working with Linux for decades now. Unfortunately, they
sometimes change stuff in the kernel that you never even guessed would
change that breaks your code. It's the way it is. Sometimes it is for
security reasons. It's just a cost of using Linux. Windows, IOS are no
different. Stuff breaks all the time. At least with Linux you can look
at the source code to see exactly what changed and how to fix your
code. I expect Elecraft will get it sorted out quickly. They are smart
folks.

73,

Mark
W7MLG
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Dave Cole]

Hi Paul,

Not to pick nits, but I would rather have them write code that does not 
worry them when the Linux kernel is updated.


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 12/6/20 3:59 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
I believe you are correct, only Eric can tell you the exact.  I would 
rather have it that way,  It would tick me off immensely if they just 
passed through and the possible bug would show up later. They are more 
apt to play their cards a lot closer than many other manufacturers


Paul  KB9AVO

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 6:52 PM Dave Cole > wrote:


Hi Paul,

I want to check my understanding of what you just said:

For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft,
triggered a shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
 > Greetings...
 >
 > This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.
 >
 > I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that
they made
 > a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT
do a
 > major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in
the Linux
 > operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field
testers are
 > beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
 > affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe
there will
 > be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed
explanation.
 >
 > Keep Well
 >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Paul Van Dyke]

I believe you are correct, only Eric can tell you the exact.  I would
rather have it that way,  It would tick me off immensely if they just
passed through and the possible bug would show up later. They are more apt
to play their cards a lot closer than many other manufacturers

Paul  KB9AVO

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 6:52 PM Dave Cole  wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> I want to check my understanding of what you just said:
>
> For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft,
> triggered a shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
> > Greetings...
> >
> > This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.
> >
> > I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that they
> made
> > a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT do a
> > major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in the Linux
> > operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field testers are
> > beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
> > affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe there will
> > be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed explanation.
> >
> > Keep Well
> >
> > Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Dave Cole]

Hi Paul,

I want to check my understanding of what you just said:

For whatever reason, a kernel update not triggered by Elecraft, 
triggered a shipment stoppage of the K4s?  Is that correct?


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/6/20 3:23 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:

Greetings...

This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.

I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that they made
a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT do a
major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in the Linux
operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field testers are
beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe there will
be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed explanation.

Keep Well

Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Odd AGC problem with K60XV installed

[Bill Coleman]

Don, 

I set the K2 up this weekend to try to reproduce this problem. Once again I 
opened it up and re-installed the K60XV board. I put a scope probe on P1 pin 6. 

I did not see the AGC failure mode right away, but I did find an intermittent 
oscillation on pin 6 at about 15 MHz. It would come and go, but no AGC 
activation.

I removed the board and re-soldered all the components around the LM358. Then I 
inspected the board and scraped away any residual solder flux in that area of 
the board between any pins.

I also re-soldered the 4.0 MHz resonator, although I did not hear or detect any 
relay activation when it failed before.

After that, I put the board back in with the scope probe and ran it on the 
workbench for a day. I saw no AGC failure mode and no more 15 MHz oscillation.

So, maybe it is fixed? Fingers crossed. 

> On Nov 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> It is also a mystery to me that it is intermittent rather than a solid 
> failure.  That might imply that something is breaking into oscillation and 
> overwhelming the VRFDET line.  That is why I suggested you check the 
> component placement and the diode orientation.
> That intermittent condition can also be caused by a soldering problem that 
> takes some time to appear.
> 
> For the non-transverter bands, it is only necessary that the 4.7pF capacitor 
> be in the circuit and that relay K1 be in the reset position.
> 
> If you hear a relay click when this problem starts, then look to the firmware 
> on the K60XV to make sure all its related components are in place - there are 
> not many.  If you do hear the relay click, one thing you can do is to 
> arbitrarily replace the resonator.  While I have never seen an intermittent 
> resonator (dead one = yes), it is one possibility.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 11/28/2020 5:59 PM, Bill Coleman wrote:
>> Thanks, Don, I’ll check it out when I have a chance next week. I appreciate 
>> your suggestions. At the moment, the K60XV and the K2 are about 35 miles 
>> apart….
>> 
>> 
> 

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[Elecraft] K4 Radio Update

[Paul Van Dyke]

Greetings...

This to answer more than a few emails I have gotten.

I just got off the phone with Eric WA6HHQ, and he explained that they made
a few tweeks in some of the features that are in K4. They DID NOT do a
major rewrite... But at the same time, there was an upgrade in the Linux
operating system, and Eric, Wayne, and many engineers, field testers are
beating up the code to make sure the improvements do not have adverse
affects or hidden flaws before they resume shipping. I believe there will
be a note, to all, in a week or so, giving a more detailed explanation.

Keep Well

Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

[Dave Hachadorian]

Bingo! That's the answer!  Many thanks Bill!

I confirm that keying compensation = 6 produces nice 50% duty cycle dits 
with the K3.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

-Original Message- 
From: Willard Myers

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 2:34 PM
To: k6ll.d...@gmail.com
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

Dave,

What you have found applies to all K3 radios when keyed by the KEY IN port.
The key-down duration is too short by about 6 ms, independent of sending
speed. I address it by setting the Keying Compensation in my WinKeyer to 6.

 Bill, K1GQ

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[Elecraft] Brand new Radio Sport Boom Mic / Headset for sale

[Ron Foster]

I have a brand new-in-the-box Radio Sport RS60CF for sale. This is their
top of the line model with world class construction and features. It comes
completely ready to plug and play with the Elecraft K-line including a
custom cable and electret mic. A  long list of different plug-in mic
elements and radio-specific plug-in cables are also available to
accommodate just about every radio out there.

Details can be found atwww.arlancommunications.com.

Asking $325 delivered by Priority Mail CONUS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

[Dave Hachadorian]

Unfortunately I have not found a way to increase the weight of the Winkeyer
when it is under control of the N1MM Logging Program.  I can change weight
with the Winkey Utility Program, and the K3 CW sounds fine, but when I exit
the utility, the weight setting is not sticky.  I don't see any weight 
setting in N1MM.



Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

-Original Message- 
From: Roy

Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 2:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

Increase the weight setting going into the K3 jack.

73,  RoyK6XK




harp-eared operator at W3LPL told me that my CW keying sounded a little
light in the CQWW contest.  I am using a Winkeyer, controlled by N1MM
Logger, connected to the KEY jack on the back of the K3.

An oscilloscope shows that the Winkeyer is producing a string of dits at
the proper 50% duty cycle.  However, looking at the RF envelope of the K3
output, the duty cycle is about 40%.  Listening to the K3 on another
receiver, the dit shortening is quite noticeable.  If I set CONFIG: CW QRQ
= ON, the transmitted dits are exactly 50% duty cycle.  However I can’t
live with the RIT, Split, etc. restrictions with QRQ ON.

I have two K3’s, and they both behave the same way.  Any ideas out there?



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[Elecraft] K3EXREF board

[charlie carroll]

I'm looking for an unbuilt K3EXREF kit.  Does anyone have one squirreled 
away?

Respond to me direct.

I am on the "would-like-to-have" list at Elecraft.

thanks

73 charlie, k1xx

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

[Roy]

Increase the weight setting going into the K3 jack.

73,  Roy    K6XK




harp-eared operator at W3LPL told me that my CW keying sounded a little light 
in the CQWW contest.  I am using a Winkeyer, controlled by N1MM Logger, 
connected to the KEY jack on the back of the K3.

An oscilloscope shows that the Winkeyer is producing a string of dits at the 
proper 50% duty cycle.  However, looking at the RF envelope of the K3 output, 
the duty cycle is about 40%.  Listening to the K3 on another receiver, the dit 
shortening is quite noticeable.  If I set CONFIG: CW QRQ = ON, the transmitted 
dits are exactly 50% duty cycle.  However I can’t live with the RIT, Split, 
etc. restrictions with QRQ ON.

I have two K3’s, and they both behave the same way.  Any ideas out there?



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[Elecraft] K3 shortening CW dits

[Dave Hachadorian]

A sharp-eared operator at W3LPL told me that my CW keying sounded a little 
light in the CQWW contest.  I am using a Winkeyer, controlled by N1MM Logger, 
connected to the KEY jack on the back of the K3.

An oscilloscope shows that the Winkeyer is producing a string of dits at the 
proper 50% duty cycle.  However, looking at the RF envelope of the K3 output, 
the duty cycle is about 40%.  Listening to the K3 on another receiver, the dit 
shortening is quite noticeable.  If I set CONFIG: CW QRQ = ON, the transmitted 
dits are exactly 50% duty cycle.  However I can’t live with the RIT, Split, 
etc. restrictions with QRQ ON.

I have two K3’s, and they both behave the same way.  Any ideas out there?

Thanks!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ
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[Elecraft] KEYBOARD Plugged into P3 SVGA...can't type out live.

[hawley, charles j jr]

I can type into the transmit buffer and with ctrl T, transmit the CW. But with 
the VOX turned on in the K3s, the typing doesn't go out as I type, but fills up 
the buffer. I still have to hit ctrl T to transmit.
Am I missing something that needs to be turned on or off?

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Re: [Elecraft] Looking to buy a Elecraft XG2

[Wes]

One was offered on this list yesterday.

Wes  N7WS

On 12/6/2020 8:17 AM, Fred wrote:

Hi,

I’m looking to buy a working XG2. If not assembled that’s ok as well.

Thanks,

Fred - KD8ZYD


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[Elecraft] The 80 Meter Net is moving

[Paul Van Dyke]

to 3.816 at 01:00 UTC on Sunday Night to allow more General Class operators
to join the fun,,

Don't forget all the other Elecraft Nets.. whether it is CW, SSB
Come Join the Fun

Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 lost serial comms - try factory defaults?

[Frank R. Oppedijk]

Hi all,

A follow-up on my problem: today I’ve opened up the belly of the KAT500 and 
have done some testing. With no USB cable connected and the KAT500 powered up, 
the Q1 drain voltage is 2.39V, where I would expect 5V. Also the gate voltage 
is 2.30V, where I would expect it to be floating. With the power off, I’ve 
measure the drain-gate resistance. It’s 5.5 k ohms. Oops!

My conclusion must be that Q1 has failed. So now I’m about to learn how to SMD 
components, hi hi.

Thanks for your help so far.

73 de Frank PA4N


> On 4 Dec 2020, at 17:35, Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:
> 
> Frank,
> 
> I would start with a complete power removal (not just off) to the KAT500 and 
> the computer (unplugged from power).  Then go have a cuppa.  When you get 
> back, plug the power in and restart it and test.
> 
> I have found that some devices (more in the USB realm) occasionally 'stick' 
> when exposed to RF and that a long power removal is the only cure.  If it's a 
> frequent event, you have an RFI issue to deal with (better grounding and 
> bonding is the first place to start for that).
> 
> GL,
> Rick NK7I
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/4/2020 8:22 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve used my KAT500 with pleasure for many years, but recently a problem has 
>> arisen: I’ve lost the serial communication feature. I’ve already swapped the 
>> KXUSB cable with another one (home-brew) so I’m pretty sure it’s not the 
>> KXUSB that’s gone kaput. And the PC is doing USB comms fine (e.g. the USB 
>> interfaces to my K3), so I guess it’s not the PC or the USB port either.
>> 
>> I’m contemplating trying a KAT500 factory reset. But two questions arise:
>> 1. Can I do a factory reset without having the serial comms working (so: can 
>> I do a factory reset other than from within the KAT500 Utility)?
>> 2. What antennas are enabled after a factory reset?
>> 
>> (Question 2 is because I have multiple antennas connected to the KAT500, and 
>> if the factory defaults would be that only ANT1 would be enabled, I would 
>> lose functionality until I’ve got the KAT500 repaired…)
>> 
>> Hope the collective wisdom of the group can help me out.
>> 
>> 73 de Frank PA4N
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[Elecraft] Looking to buy a Elecraft XG2

[Fred]

Hi,

I’m looking to buy a working XG2. If not assembled that’s ok as well. 

Thanks,

Fred - KD8ZYD


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