Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Wayne, is the TCXO drift spec for the period after warmup, or does it include 
the warmup period?

Steve N9SZ

>At present, "method 3" remains unimplemented. Fortunately the TCXO's  
>uncorrected drift is already less than +/- 0.5 PPM from 0 to 50 C.  
>This was the target for "method 3".

>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR


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[Elecraft] CWT and RF GAIN

2009-12-08 Thread Steven Zabarnick
I find the CWT indicator very useful as a manual tuning aid, for auto  
zero beating using SPOT, and for obtaining the proper decoding  
threshold for CW, PSK, and RTTY. I am also one who uses the RF GAIN  
control to minimize band noise and increase the S/N ratio of weak  
signals. Unfortunately, the CWT indication is greatly affected by the  
RF GAIN setting. Turning down the RF GAIN for weak signals often turns  
off the CWT indication for that signal. In addition, turning down the  
RF GAIN affects the required threshold setting for decoding CW, PSK,  
and RTTY.

I was wondering if it is possible in a future firmware to unlink the  
dependence of the appearance of the CWT marker and the decoding  
thresholds on the RF GAIN setting? I suspect this is not possible, but  
if so it would greatly improve the usefulness of CWT for those that  
use the RF GAIN knob often.

Steve N9SZ
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Config:Wattmeter

2009-12-06 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

This bug in the wattmeter calibration still exists in the latest firmware.
Pressing XMIT during the wattmeter calibration does not transmit, and
pressing TUNE does not permit a change of the calibration paramter. On the
other hand keying the rig via a keyer does allow the calibration to be
performed.

Steve N9SZ

>Using the latest 2.80 firmware, I find a problem I didn't have with
>prior versions.  It may be unrelated to the firmware change.  I have
>only been using the radio for two weeks.

>TECH MD set to ON and select CONFIG: WMTR LP or HP.  The display shows a
>three digit number.  When I hold TUNE, the display changes and shows
>SWR.   The VFO A knob does nothing.

>I had set the wattmeter calibration earlier and all went as described in
>the manual.

>Firmware bug??  Operator error??

>73 de K1ESE
>John

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mods

2009-12-05 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Confusingly, there are actually two mods for the K3 with similar names:

The "K3 AF Mod Kit Rev B" which is called the "K3 AF Stage Upgrade" in its
instructions. This one is for the line out and speaker signal pathways, and
involves changing an RF choke and two 51 ohm resistors.

The other mod is the "K3 AF Output Mod Kit, Rev C" and is called the "K3 AF
Amplifier Out Modification" in its instructions. This protects the amps in
case of a short circuit or low impedance load and involves adding two 470
ohm resistors.

Steve N9SZ

Julian G4ILO wrote:

>Steven.Zabarnick wrote:
>>
>> I was not able to perform the K3 AF Output Mod (two 470 ohm
>> resistors on the KIO3 board).
>>
>I thought they were two 51 ohm resistors (according to the instruction
>sheet
>I have here.) Has there been a mod to the mod?


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[Elecraft] K3 mods

2009-12-04 Thread Steven Zabarnick
Yesterday I overcame my fears :-) and successfully performed the  
following mods on my K3 (S/N 1672):

K3 AF Mod (Line out & speaker)
IF Output Buffer Gain Mod
K3 Extreme Signal RX Protection Mod

But, I was not able to perform the K3 AF Output Mod (two 470 ohm  
resistors on the KIO3 board). I found it impossible to hold the  
resistor in place will soldering to the connector pins. Does anyone  
have any suggestions on techniques for installing these resistors?

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] K3 Retaining NR settings

2009-12-02 Thread Steven Zabarnick
Now that the K3 firmware is mature and the DSP noise reduction feature  
works extremely well, isn’t it time for the firmware to retain NR  
after power cycling? I’m not asking for memory of per band/mode NR  
settings (although that would be wonderful!), but NR users should not  
have to turn this feature on every time they power up the rig. I know  
this was on the list in the past, but it seems like time to move it to  
the top.

Thanks.

Steve N9SZ
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 A/B button problem

2009-11-10 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I found that the problem was caused by PowerSDR software running for my
LP-PAN panadapter.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] K3 A/B button problem

2009-11-10 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

I'm seeing an intermittent problem with the A/B button on my K3. When I
have VFO A and B set for different modes and frequencies, pressing the A/B
button sometimes copies the frequency from VFO B to A after exchanging
them, rather than exchanging them only (the mode is not copied). The
problem never occurs when the mode is the same between the two VFO's. Has
anyone else observed this? Does the fact that the problem does not occur
when the modes are the same, imply that this is a firmware rather than
hardware issue? My K3 does not have the subreceiver.

Steve N9SZ

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Re: [Elecraft] NR problem with the latest beta release

2009-10-10 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Jim:

I can get rid of the tone upon turning on NR if I do any of the following:

revert to v3.30
turn off switch tones
use my FL2 filter (500 Hz) rather than my FL1 filter (2.7 kHz)
and, of course, turning off NR

Wayne had me try an EE init, which got rid of the tone, but it returned
after a while. It seems to require a very specific filter or hardware
setup, a specfic set of config options, and possibly some time pushing
buttons.

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem, because that
means it is not a hardware problem with my K3, and I'm not going crazy!

I have faith that Wayne and Lyle will solve this, though.

Steve N9SZ


-Hi Steve
-
-In my previous e-mail I suggested it was the NB! not so it was in fact NR
-and the symtoms are exactly as you describe, reverting to the prevous
-beta
-release  solves the problem.  I am interested to know if we are the only
-people experiencing this or is it a general problem?
-
-Jim G4NWJ
-
-
-
-I get a continuous tone when engaging NR, but it requires switch tones
-set
-to on and my FL1 filter to be engaged. Wayne has tried to help me find
-the
-cause without success yet.
-
-Steve N9SZ
-
-
--Sinse installing the latest beta release I have a problem with a loud
tone
--when I engage the NB.  Has anyone else experienced this or am I just
doing
-something wrong?
--Jim G4NWJ

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 NB problem

2009-10-09 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

I get a continuous tone when engaging NR, but it requires switch tones set
to on and my FL1 filter to be engaged. Wayne has tried to help me find the
cause without success yet.

Steve N9SZ


-Sinse installing the latest beta release I have a problem with a loud tone
-when I engage the NB.  Has anyone else experienced this or am I just doing
-something wrong?
-
-Jim G4NWJ

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[Elecraft] V3.41 NR tone

2009-10-08 Thread Steven Zabarnick
I’d like someone with a similar K3 configuration to help me diagnose  
a problem by doing a test.

Required K3 configuration:
Filters- 2.7 kHz in FL1 and 500 kHz in FL2
KAT3 ATU
KXV3
KPA3 100 watt amp
V3.41 firmware

In cw mode, set your filter width to greater than 500 Hz to engage the  
2.7 kHz filter in FL1. In the Config Menu set SW TONE to ON. Set the  
NR to FL1-1, and cycle the NR on and off.

Do you hear a continuous tone when NR is cycled on?

Thanks.

Steve N9SZ
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-10-08 Thread Steven Zabarnick
This leads to the obvious follow-on suggest: Since the XG-2 signal  
generator is used to calibrate the RF gain and the S-meter, why not  
include the XG-2 generator as an internal feature of future versions  
of the K3 (or K4)?

Steve N9SZ


Brett Howard said:

-So if someone has the 50uV elecraft generator (and can do 1uV as well)
-why can't the gain calibration feature also calibrate the S-Meter as
-well?  Just add the insertion of a 1uV signal after the 50uV signal
-allows the rig to linearize things and set the S9 point and then you  
can
-set your offset and slopes and what not...
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-27 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
On May 26, 2009 Wayne wrote:

-This is referred to as "ballistic" tuning. We experimented with it but
-rejected it when we did the K2 design. I haven't tried it on the K3
-yet, but I've added it to my list.
-
-73,
-Wayne
-N6KR

Back in Jan 2008 there was a discussion of this on the reflector, and on
Jan 17, 2008 Greg wrote:

-A ballistic type of tuning is already on the list.
-
-73
-Greg
-AB7R

Personally I vote yes on ballistic tuning, but I thought it was already on
the list.

Steve N9SZ
Dayton OH

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction..revisited

2009-05-01 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Hmm, are Lyle's "other irons in the fire" being heated for Eric's "other
fish to fry"?  :-)

More seriously, I also would love to see changes to the noise reduction,
particularly to help
with weak signal work. I'm not sure why anyone cares about noise reduction
for
strong signals -- I just turn down the AF gain and the noise goes away :-)

Steve N9SZ


Don W3FPR wrote:
Perhaps Lyle is looking at other alternatives for NR in the K3, but I do
know that he is quite busy with other 'irons in the fire' right now, so
patience is a virtue for now and we could possibly discover improvements
down the road.

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Re: [Elecraft] "Hot" K3

2009-03-16 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Don:

I had the same reaction upon first using my new K3 last year. The K3 is
significantly more sensitive than my previous rig (IC-756 non-Pro), and as
my noise environment is fairly high (inner suburb with ~110 dBm background
noise), at first it seemed as if the K3 is fairly noisy. Also, while the S
meter of most rigs are calibrated fairly well at S9, their meters are not
linear (in dB units) at lower S unit readings (the K3 meter is very linear
at 6 dB per S unit)-- with the result that the K3 meter readings are higher
by a few S units.

I find that I often use the attenuator and/or the RF gain to decrease the
band noise in the K3 -- I rarely used these in my other rigs. Also, try
playing with the AGC settings, particularly the THR and SLP settings, which
can be customized to suit your operating conditions. Also, turning off the
AGC and riding the RF gain can really help pull out very weak signals.

Steve N9SZ

Don Rasmussen wrote:

"My new K3 #2308 shows two to three S-units high as compared to my other HF
radios, \
and lots of hiss in the speaker audio at low AF levels."

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Re: [Elecraft] Weird EMI issue... part deux

2009-03-01 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I was able to reproduce the noise that James is hearing on my #1672 K3. In
my radio it never reaches S7, but I don't have the KBPF3 option. Here, the
RIT and XIT settings do not affect the noise. It is mostly between 4.9 and
5.1 MHz as stated by W4TV.

I never would have noticed this without James' post, and I am not
concerned, but then, I don't have the general receive capability anyway.

Steve N9SZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Using USB mode for PSK31 rather than DATA A

2009-02-16 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
No I did not turn off compression. I will give this a try. Has anyone else
tried using PSK31 with USB mode?

>Did you turn compression off?
>
>Bob NW8L

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM,  
wrote:
> After all this discussion of power control in DATA A mode vs SSB, I
decided
> to try using PSK31 with USB mode, rather than DATA A. I changed the MIC
SEL
> menu item to Line IN and adjusted the ALC meter to 4-5 bars using the MIC
> GAIN control. The PSK31 power output appeared to closely match the K3
power
> setting. Unfortunately, I received horrendous feedback about the widthand
> IMD of my signal -- when I returned to DATA A mode, my signal width and
IMD
> returned back to acceptable values.
>
> Steve N9SZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver jones...

2009-02-16 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Another solution is to get an LP-PAN panadapter. This gives a great
panadapter plus two PowerSDR receivers. This weekend I was able to monitor
K5D on the K3 and/or the primary PowerSDR receiver and listen to (and
watch) the pileup on the PowerSDR subreceiver. PowerSDR allows you to put
the pileup in one computer speaker and the DX in the other. Pretty cool!

I only wish that PowerSDR receiver un-muting after transmission was a
little faster. There is a little too much pause there.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] Using USB mode for PSK31 rather than DATA A

2009-02-16 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
After all this discussion of power control in DATA A mode vs SSB, I decided
to try using PSK31 with USB mode, rather than DATA A. I changed the MIC SEL
menu item to Line IN and adjusted the ALC meter to 4-5 bars using the MIC
GAIN control. The PSK31 power output appeared to closely match the K3 power
setting. Unfortunately, I received horrendous feedback about the widthand
IMD of my signal -- when I returned to DATA A mode, my signal width and IMD
returned back to acceptable values.

Steve N9SZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.82

2009-02-14 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I discovered that my cw power issue was due to a bad power supply for my
Elecraft W1 wattmeter. My cw power measurement now agrees with the K3
setting. I still see a 50% higher power output in Data A mode than the K3
setting -- this is an improvement over the nearly 100% that I was seeing
using previous firmware. These observations agree with what G4ILO is
seeing.


>
>I installed the new beta last and tested the new output power control. >I
don't see any improvement in PSK31 output power using DATA A mode. I >still
get nearly twice the output power than I have dialed in by the >PWR knob.
In the previous firmware, the measure output power in CW >modes agreed with
the PWR knob setting, but now the power output in CW >is 20-30% higher than
the setting.
>
>
>I will try to redo the transmitter gain calibration to see if this >helps.
>
>Steve N9SZ
>
>K3 #1672

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 no power output

2009-02-11 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Make sure that you are not in "test mode". Is the TX panel indicator
flashing? If so press and hold TEST to turn it off.

Steve N9SZ



Dave N1IX wrote:


-I just received a "new to me" K3. It is a recent serial number 18XX.
-The receiver works fine but there is no output power. It goes into
transmit the \
-transmit light illuminates.? but no power at all in any mode or on any
band nada, \
-nil,? zero!!!? I have checked all the obvious things. I took the covers
off and could \
-see nothing that looked wrong. Anyone have any ideas?
-
-Also, I have a second K3 that I have been using as my primary radio for 3
months. \
-When I moved it to test the new k3 I heard something rattling around. I
removed the \
-top cover, turned it over and out fell a wound torroid. I can's see where
it is \
-missing? It is green colored with just a few windings.
-
-Both of these K3s were factory assembled and tested!!!
-Needless to say I am having a very bad day!!
-
-Dave N1IX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.82

2009-02-11 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

I installed the new beta last and tested the new output power control. I
don't see any improvement in PSK31 output power using DATA A mode. I still
get nearly twice the output power than I have dialed in by the PWR knob. In
the previous firmware, the measure output power in CW modes agreed with the
PWR knob setting, but now the power output in CW is 20-30% higher than the
setting.

I will try to redo the transmitter gain calibration to see if this helps.

Steve N9SZ
K3 #1672

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Re: [Elecraft] Using K3's Pre-amp

2009-01-10 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Is Dave's S4 background band noise level unusual or should this be
considered normal? In my first tier suburban location I typically see S2 to
S3 background noise on the 20 to 40 meter bands using cw receive bandwidths
of 500 KKz. The first figure and table in the following link
(http://www.ve2si.ca/2-points.htm) shows that for suburban locations,
typical background noise levels at a 2.4 KHz receiver bandwidth are about
-100 dBm at 14 MHz, which is between S4 and S5 (these background noise
estimates are based on ITU standards). Do other suburbanites see much lower
noise levels than these?

Steve N9SZ
K3 SN 1672

Wayne said:
>May I ask what's causing all that noise in your location?


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[Elecraft] Re: K3 drift

2008-12-31 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I finally measured the drift that I'm seeing with my K3. I tracked this
using the AFC function of Digipan while monitoring the carrier of WWV at 10
Mhz. Upon power up, I see a drift to higher frequencies of 36 Hz over the
first 90 seconds, then over the next 5-10 minutes the rig drifts much more
slowly downward towards the original power up frequency.

This was for a cold K3 in my 52F basement shack. I calculate a drift of 3.6
ppm which is within the spec of the 5 ppm TCXO.

Steve N9SZ

-Steven Zabarnick/Research/FacStaff/UDayton wrote: -

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
From: Steven Zabarnick/Research/FacStaff/UDayton
Date: 12/30/2008 10:15AM
Subject: K3 drift


During the past week I have noticed my K3 drifting during the first 20
seconds after power up. I hadn’t noticed this previously in my three month
old K3 (SN 1672), so I’m wondering if this is normal? With winter here it
is colder in my basement shack (maybe down 55 F), so perhaps that could
explain the drift.


I haven't measured the drift, but definitely have not noticed it in the
past.


Does anyone else observe this drift? Is this normal during warmup?


Steve N9SZ
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[Elecraft] K3 drift

2008-12-30 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

During the past week I have noticed my K3 drifting during the first 20
seconds after power up. I hadn’t noticed this previously in my three month
old K3 (SN 1672), so I’m wondering if this is normal? With winter here it
is colder in my basement shack (maybe down 55 F), so perhaps that could
explain the drift.

I haven't measured the drift, but definitely have not noticed it in the
past.

Does anyone else observe this drift? Is this normal during warmup?

Steve N9SZ
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[Elecraft] K3 S meter and AGC on/off

2008-12-17 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

One unique feature of the K3 is that the S meter operates even when AGC is
turned off. Lately I've taken to operating often with AGC off to maximize
weak signal performance (using the RF gain to control volume), but have
noted that the S meter reading is a strong function of whether AGC is on or
off. When AGC is off the S meter readings are lower, while when AGC is on
the readings are higher by about 2 or 3 S units. This is with the RF gain
in the full clockwise position.

My K3 S meter is uncalibrated and operating using the default OF and SC
configuration settings.

Any thoughts on why the meter reads differently between AGC on and off?

Steve N9SZ
K3 1672

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[Elecraft] Re:[K3] AGC THR and noise

2008-12-02 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Oops, mistakenly sent this with the wrong subject line.

Jack's measurements of the K3 AGC on the link listed below are quite
interesting. As my noise level on the low bands is usually at least S3 or
4, his plots indicate that the noise (S3 is approx -90 dBm) is either in
the linear range of the AGC, or just barely in the software AGC range.
Don't we really want the band noise in the  flat part of the AGC curve,
down near -130 dBm? Would operating with the ATT on and/or the RF gain
turned down help move the band noise to this part of the curve, resulting
in a  higher S/N ratio for signals just above the background noise?

Steve N9SZ



Barry N1EU wrote:

>Steven.Zabarnick wrote:
>>
>> I'm somewhat puzzled by the behavior of the AGC THR adjustment with
>> respect
>> to band noise. My understanding is that the AGC THR setting adjusts the
>> level at which the AGC is activated. Thus, I would expect when listening
>> to
>> band noise (QRN) that if the noise is activating the AGC, using a higher
>> number would prevent AGC activation, resulting in a lower background
band
>> noise.
>>
>A higher number means that AGC compression begins at a higher signal
level,
>so a higher number means you'll hear more noise.
>
>take a look at the graphs at
>http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_agc_and_s-meter.htm#AGC_SLP_and_AGC_THR

>
>73,
>Barry N1EU.

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[Elecraft] Re: Help with distorted transmit audio

2008-12-02 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Jack's measurements of the K3 AGC on the link listed below are quite
interesting. As my noise level on the low bands is usually at least S3 or
4, his plots indicate that the noise (S3 is approx -90 dBm) is either in
the linear range of the AGC, or just barely in the software AGC range.
Don't we really want the band noise in the  flat part of the AGC curve,
down near -130 dBm? Would operating with the ATT on and/or the RF gain
turned down help move the band noise to this part of the curve, resulting
in a higher S/N ratio for signals just above the background noise?

Steve N9SZ



Barry N1EU wrote:

>Steven.Zabarnick wrote:
>>
>> I'm somewhat puzzled by the behavior of the AGC THR adjustment with
>> respect
>> to band noise. My understanding is that the AGC THR setting adjusts the
>> level at which the AGC is activated. Thus, I would expect when listening
>> to
>> band noise (QRN) that if the noise is activating the AGC, using a higher
>> number would prevent AGC activation, resulting in a lower background
band
>> noise.
>>
>A higher number means that AGC compression begins at a higher signal
level,
>so a higher number means you'll hear more noise.
>
>take a look at the graphs at
>http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_agc_and_s-meter.htm#AGC_SLP_and_AGC_THR

>
>73,
>Barry N1EU


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[Elecraft] [K3] AGC THR and noise

2008-12-02 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I'm somewhat puzzled by the behavior of the AGC THR adjustment with respect
to band noise. My understanding is that the AGC THR setting adjusts the
level at which the AGC is activated. Thus, I would expect when listening to
band noise (QRN) that if the noise is activating the AGC, using a higher
number would prevent AGC activation, resulting in a lower background band
noise. But, my experience with the K3 is just the opposite. When adjusting
the AGC THR setting I get lower background band noise with a lower setting
-- as a matter of fact, a setting of 2 (the lowest AGC THR) signficantly
reduces the background noise relative to higher settings.

Can someone explain this to me?

Steve N9SZ
K3 #1672

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[Elecraft] Re: Help with distorted transmit audio

2008-11-17 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
I experienced this pinched audio problem this weekend. Using the current
beta firmware, I noted severely pinched transmit audio (using the transmit
monitor). It occurred on some bands but not all, and was present sometimes
on only one of the sidebands (i.e., when switching sidebands the audio
pinching was gone, and returned when switched to the original sideband).

The problem disappeared upon reboot.

Steve N9SZ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3- How Robust iis the Tuner?

2008-10-13 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

Maybe it needs to be more robust? Last week I was attempting to tune a
short ladderline fed (via a balun) doublet on 80 meters using the KAT3. The
tuner successfully tuned the system for the cw part of the band, but had
trouble on 75 meters. I tried retuning a few times, and noted smoke and a
burning smell. Now antennas connected to the ANT1 connector are deaf, while
using the ANT2 connector the tuner works fine.

I've successfully used this antenna on 80 meters using an external manual
Palstar balanced tuner, but never got a match using the internal tuner in
my IC756. While the IC756 tuner cannot provide a match, it never was
damaged in my attempts.

On the bright side, Elecraft support is sending a replacement KAT3, no
questions asked.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] Chaining CW memory messages

2008-09-29 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

A previous reflector post described problems with chaining messages when
using the K3 internal keyer memories (M1-M4). I have also observed this
problem -- when tapping a memory to chain a message while a message is
already playing, sometimes the playing message is interrupted. I can
usually get it working correctly by rekeying in the saved message. Sounds
like an intermittent bug.

Steve N9SZ

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[Elecraft] KAT3 settings saved per band

2008-09-29 Thread Steven . Zabarnick

I use two doublet antennas, one hooked to ANT1 through a balun for 40M
which uses the KAT3 tuner, and a second (ANT2) in which I bypass the KAT3
and use an external Palstar BT1500A balanced tuner for 30-10M. Currently,
when changing bands I have to remember to bypass/set the KAT3 correctly. I
would like to see the KAT3 bypass/auto setting saved per band as is
commonly done on other rigs, such as the IC756.

Steve N9SZ

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