Re: [Elecraft] P3 product suggestion

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 product suggestion

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Re: [Elecraft] Amplifiers in general

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An increase in power of another station is not always well perceived 
but the difference is there.  I've heard guys turn amps on and off and 
you really hear no differencethis is   because your AGC is 
compensating.the difference may actually be big  your just not 
hearing it.
Sometime in a QSO  have the other station increase or decrease the 
signal by 3db.   it will not be that noticable.   now turn off AGC and 
ask the other station do it again  it will be much more evident. than 
with AGC on.



With more than one signal present say in a pileup the different will 
be noticeable because the weaker signals will seem quiter when a 
strong signal comes in. its all relative.



David Moes
VE3SD



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Re: [Elecraft] Appropriate Mic for K3 (new)

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I have 2 mics one on an old articulated lamp arm   dynamic I 
bought at a surplus store. It was a cheep knock of of a shure SM58  
cost me $4.00   get tons of good audio remarks.   just makes me wonder 
why others need $300  condensers.


Second and a popular one on K3 is the Yamaha CM500  headset with boom 
mic.  good audio both listening and transmit.the truth is any 
comfortable computer headset with mic will work very well for you.


the transmit EQ is your friend with any mic.

David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] Appropriate Mic for K3 (new)
From: Bruce Chadbourne 
To: 
Date: Sunday, 04/12/2016  9:25 AM

Greetings - I've had my K3 for 5 years, mostly a CW and digital 
operator.
I've never done much with my microphone - just repurposing an 
Turner454X

crystal mic.  I keep wondering if I'd be having more phun with a new
'phone.  Without starting a holy war, perhaps a few of you could make 
a

recommendation as to a specific slightly-better-than budget model.
Better still, with Christmas coming, maybe you're eyeing a fancy 
upgrade

for yourself and would like to sell me your modestly-priced pre-owned
mic(?).
73 to all, Merry Christmas
Bruce KE1CY @ arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital on the K3S

[dmoes]

Digital with the K3  is much like with other rigs but with a few 
differences


Im not sure if you have a K3 or K3s   but neither need a signal link   
but they can be used.   the K3s has a built in sound adapter that can 
is used through the USB port.   with an older K3 you can use any sound 
adapter including the one built into most computers and connect it to 
the line in and out on the rear of the K3, it has internal isolation 
so this function of a  signallink is not really needed.


For software you can use what ever you chose  be it FLdigi HRD or 
MMvari or whatever you prefer.   setup is a little different regarding 
driving the rig.   with most rigs you want to drive it with no ALC 
meter deflection.  with the K3 however it should be with the fourth 
bar showing and flickering the fifth bar. you then adjust your 
output power with the power adjustment.   runining digital with a K3 
it is possible to run much more power out than with most conventional 
rigs.  this setup makes the K3 in my opinion a fantastic rig for 
digital modes.


there are alot of fine points using the different digital settings on 
the rig. so the manual will be a must  if not Fred Caddy's book.  
which is highly recommended.


David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] Digital on the K3S
From: Bill DeVore 
To: 
Date: Tuesday, 29/11/2016 10:26 PM

I'm new to Elecraft and was wondering how most of you handle digital 
communications.


Use the K3 Utility program for digital modes or something like 
SignalLink USB with fldigi or equivalent?


Bill - W3PNM
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Re: [Elecraft] Computer Boot Up Keys the K3S

[dmoes]

nothing new here  My K3 does this as well

the computers serial port will toggle the DTR and RTS several times 
during the boot process.   some computers more or less.   My laptop 
will hold it on until I launch  a program that accesses the port like 
VSPE or a logging program.


the solution.  you could disable keying from the RTS or DTR in the 
menues  but if you are using that to say send CW from your computer 
that is a poor option.


My solution is this.  I either turn off the K3 when the computer boots 
or hold the TX TEST  to disable transmit. untill the computer has 
completed the boot.






David Moes
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--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] Computer Boot Up Keys the K3S
From: Irwin Darack 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Monday, 07/11/2016  9:41 PM

When I boot up my computer it keys the K3s Radio. I seem to remember 
there

is a setting in the K3s Radio to prevent this?

Irwin KD3TB


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Re: [Elecraft] TxMon and K3 (tuner bypassed) SWR missmatch

[dmoes]

Thanks  for replies


I will borrow a Bird meter to see what it say  but I think in this 
case the error is in the K3 and not the P3.  as one mentioned a 
reading of 1:1,1 vers 1:1,2 is neglegable  but this is a error by a 
whole number   1:1 vs 1:2


My concern is that if its really a 1:3.5  and it thinks its a 1:2.5  
is the K3 still doing its job for protection  or is this protection 
sensed elswhere.


The coax between the K3 and the sensor is about a foot  so very close. 
but as some said it should not be a big difference.
and I understand that the K3 is probably one of the most tolerant rigs 
out there for SWR.My concern is when I am using an antenna say a 
doublet  where the tuner is not able to get it to a perfect match.  
say only to a 2:1 where if the K3s SWR internally is misreading it and 
its really a 3:1  that is getting  a little out of its safe zone and 
it should start to roll the power back   or will it?  if its reading 
lower than what it really is it may not roll the power back as early 
as it should.




David Moes
VE3SD



On Friday 04/11/2016 at 6:59 pm, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:


I recently installed the TX monitor in my P3 and have a discrepancy
with the SWR reading between it and the K3

with a dummy load connected the P3 and K3 read 1.12 and 1.0
respectively   a level of error that is to me quite acceptable.

however  when connected to an antenna  I will see the SWR on the K3
often close to 1:1   when the P3 will show up to a 1:2.   as the SWR
climbs above 1:2 on the P3  the K3 reading will track it fairly
closely but about a level of 1 below.  example
K3 1:1  P3 1:2,
K3 1:1.5  P3 1:2.5
K3 1:2   P3 1:3   and so on

Note that this is done with the KAT3  bypassed of course.

it made me wonder which is correct.   so I put in a meter.   old but
faithfull KW electronics meter seems to track much closer to the P3's
reading  which makes sense since the chances that my dipole would have
a wide are at a solid 1:1 match before climbing as I move away from
resonance  makes me wonder if the K3's SWR readings are out of
calibration and if this can be adjusted. my concern is that I may
be excepting the SWR from the KAT3  when it may be in fact a little
too high for the amps safety.

The power readings from both seems to be quite close.

Any thoughts?





David Moes
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[Elecraft] TxMon and K3 (tuner bypassed) SWR missmatch

[dmoes]

I recently installed the TX monitor in my P3 and have a discrepancy 
with the SWR reading between it and the K3


with a dummy load connected the P3 and K3 read 1.12 and 1.0  
respectively   a level of error that is to me quite acceptable.


however  when connected to an antenna  I will see the SWR on the K3 
often close to 1:1   when the P3 will show up to a 1:2.   as the SWR 
climbs above 1:2 on the P3  the K3 reading will track it fairly 
closely but about a level of 1 below.  example

K3 1:1  P3 1:2,
K3 1:1.5  P3 1:2.5
K3 1:2   P3 1:3   and so on

Note that this is done with the KAT3  bypassed of course.

it made me wonder which is correct.   so I put in a meter.   old but 
faithfull KW electronics meter seems to track much closer to the P3's 
reading  which makes sense since the chances that my dipole would have 
a wide are at a solid 1:1 match before climbing as I move away from 
resonance  makes me wonder if the K3's SWR readings are out of 
calibration and if this can be adjusted. my concern is that I may 
be excepting the SWR from the KAT3  when it may be in fact a little 
too high for the amps safety.


The power readings from both seems to be quite close.

Any thoughts?





David Moes
VE3SD


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Re: [Elecraft] Recording audio messages for N1MM+

[dmoes]

There was a recent software update that removed the audio monitor 
from line out.  the latest beta fixes that so it is backso 
normally yes it does   when I use QSOrder with N1MM I hear both sides 
of the QSOI never had the update that broke the line out monitor   
if you have it  I think it was early summer that this happened.  
others will probably know versions.   install the latest beta. it will 
give you fixed level monitor for this very purpose.   (Elecraft 
software developers  note!) Id rather have the fixed level on line out 
than have the line out level follow the level set by the front panel 
that sets it for headphones and speaker monitor.




David Moes
VE3SD



On Sunday 16/10/2016 at 11:28 am, Jim Miller  wrote:
Does the K3S output the monitor audio to LineOUT to allow N1MM+ audio 
to

capture it for on the fly recording?

Thanks

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] Notes on beta firmware

[dmoes]

Im sort of a don't fix what ain't broke.    From time to time I look at the 
updates to see if there is anything jucy or effect‎s my operation and only do 
the updates then   why update firmware if it offers nothing to my personal 
operations. 

 One thing about this Beta update is the Fixed level on TX monitor to the line 
out.      One thing I didn't  like is that the line out was tied to the front 
panel monitor level and when recording messages or recording QSOs. The level 
would be low as I kept the monitor low at least for Phone.    It would be nice 
if the monitor level in future to the line out is independent from the front 
panel contol.  

  Original Message  
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 6:32 PM
To: dm...@nexicom.net
Reply To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Notes on beta firmware

David and all,

You might want to check the Firmware page of the Elecraft website 
frequently to keep up with updates. Look at the release notes for both 
the production and beta firmware to see if there is anything that 
interests you - if so, download it.

There are several on this reflector who are not familiar with the 
difference between Elecraft production firmware and beta firmware, and 
many are reluctant to install beta firmware.

IMHO, beta firmware is just as good as production level, but has not had 
as much testing by customers who bring to the plate the variety of 
configurations possible - different loggers and control applications 
working in concert with the radio and remote control applications that 
pose additional potential for unforeseen problems to crop up. Releasing 
beta versions to customers allows that firmware to be tested under a 
variety of conditions that are not possible by a select few early testers.

There is no fixed time between a beta release and when it is promoted to 
production level at Elecraft. If there is a flurry of customer requests 
for a new function, it can be a matter of days, but if there is not a 
high demand for the new or improved functions, it can be weeks. If you 
want the new function or problem fix, download and install the beta 
version.

If you want a function that is included in the beta version, go ahead 
and download it, unzip and install it in your K3 (or K3S, KX3, KX2). If 
you encounter a problem, report it and revert to the production level or 
whatever level you have saved on your computer. Yes, it is just that easy.

As far as firmware levels go, the revision level will remain the same if 
the beta version is promoted to production level - in other words, if 
revision 5.54 is determined to be adequate for production, it will still 
be revision 5.54.
This production/beta revision there is a perfect example of the revision 
numbering. The production level is 5.50, but the current beta is 5.54. 
What happened to 5.51, 5.52 and 5.53?
Those versions were released as beta, but either there was a problem 
reported by some of the early users, or it was further modified to add 
some additional function. Since the current beta is 5.54, it will be 
the one advanced to production level unless it is succeeded by a higher 
beta revision. Revisions 5.51, 5.52 and 5.53 will not ever be 
production level. In other words, if 5.54 needs to be "fixed", the 
fixed version will be higher than 5.54.

There should be no fears about beta firmware "breaking your radio" 
because it has been initially tested in-house and by Firmware Field Testers.

I am surprised that the TX monitor out of LINE OUT was not discovered 
between MCU 5.40 and 5.50. My only conclusion is that those who used 
that function did not upgrade and observe the absence.

An additional comment - use the firmware release notes to update your 
list of menu functions in the manual - for instance, MCU 5.40 added an 
option to the menu list for PA TEMP.

73,
Don W3FPR

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>
> That explains it. I must have missed a few updates.
>
> David Moes
> VE3SD

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Re: [Elecraft] beta firmware

[dmoes]

That explains it.  I must have missed a few updates.

David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] beta firmware
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: ,  
Date: Sunday, 02/10/2016  9:05 AM

David,

TX Monitor to Line Out somehow disappeared after MCU 5.38 and is not 
present in 5.50.  It was restored in MCU 5.54.

Download the beta and try it out.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 10/2/2016 8:23 AM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:



I see new Beta firmware available   MCU 5.54 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26,  
9-24-2016


it says it now has TX monitor to Line out.  I thought it already  
did this.   have always used the line out connection it to record  
messages for F keys for contests and QSorder for N1MM always captured  
my audio via the line out.




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[Elecraft] beta firmware

[dmoes]

I see new Beta firmware available   MCU 5.54 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26, 
9-24-2016


it says it now has TX monitor to Line out.  I thought it already 
did this.   have always used the line out connection it to record 
messages for F keys for contests and QSorder for N1MM  always captured 
my audio via the line out.



David Moes
VE3SD


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Power Poles

[dmoes]

‎Everyone has their ways.  Here is my two cents. Everything 12V in my shack 
including lighting is APP

NEVER SOLDER. To many possible issues including that the solder flows so well 
on those pins its almost impossible to keep it off the contact surface. Also 
the wire break off easier 

Second. For years I used a crimp tool I had. Not really purpose made but seemed 
OK and folded in the split the way it is intended and had good luck. A few 
months back when I was doing some changes I borrowed someone's fancy ratcheting 
Andy crimp tool made for APP. Wow. What a difference. the crimps where way 
better and easy to get them right.  ‎ I since bought my own. It was worth it.  

To keep the black and red body sets together I don't pin. But touch one spot on 
the joint with a solder iron melting a small bit of the plastic and bonding 
them together.  ‎ I have never needed to do anything to keep mated connector 
pairs together.  

The current capacity in my experience is at least if not better than 
advertised.    I have never had any sign of heating even when running many 
things at the same time including lights rigs and accessories al through APPs 
even at the power supply. (single set there too)

  Original Message  
From: Ramon Tristani
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:53 AM
To: Elecraft Mailing List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Power Poles

The Power Pole connectors on the back of my K3 provide for only a marginal, 
non-secure connection to the cable coming from the power supply. Has anybody 
out there “invented” or “discovered” a more secure and strong connection than 
the one provided by the Power Poles? It is so easy for the connection to come 
loose that makes me wonder how can they safely conduct the 20 amps needed for 
the radio to operate at full power. I believe in strong and tight connections 
when relatively high current is expected. Anybody out there with suggestions? I 
would appreciate knowing from you. Thank you all.

Ramón E. Tristani Sr., NQ9V
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Build or Buy

[dmoes]

I agree with the others. Building it is a sense of complement, but more 
important. If down the road you decide to add to it or there is trouble and a 
component needs replacing, if you built it you will have a better idea and 
confidence to open the box and work on it. 

  Original Message  
From: John Stengrevics
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:07 AM
To: Charles R.Tropp
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Bill DeVore
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Build or Buy

Agree completely. Never having built something before, I get a sense of 
accomplishment every time I turn my K3S on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Charles R.Tropp via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> It certainly is not a question of saving $200.00 because the feeling of 
> accomplishment you will receive when the lights go on is priceless! 73, 
> Charles N2SO
> Treasurer, Quarter Century Wireless Association, Inc. http://QCWA.org 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:05 AM, efortner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> At the Shelby Hamfest, 2015 I ordered the entire K-Line, Amp, KAT500, K3s and 
> Elecraft P3 along with the filters they suggested. I received the shipment in 
> late September. Took inventory of all parts as they recommended. I started 
> with the receiver and finished with KPA500 amplifier. It was not difficult 
> and took about three weeks in spare time. It worked when finished but had one 
> minor issue after I started using it. It turned out the reference oscillator 
> was defective and would drift after the K3s warmed up and would stop 
> receiving. A little trouble shooting with help from the factory soon had 
> another reference oscillator on the way. I have probably worked a 100 new 
> countries since then. About the only things you need to buy are a muffin tin 
> to hold the small parts. Several new screwdrives for the small screws and a 
> static mat with wrist clip. No soldering, just a lot of small screws, nuts, 
> washers and lock washers. My age is 78.
> 
> Regards, Earl Fortner, K4KAY
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill 
> DeVore
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - Build or Buy
> 
> I’m considering the purchase of a K3S and was wondering what are the pros and 
> cons of building versus buying a factory radio. Is building worth the $200 in 
> savings?
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Heil Mic Element with K3?

[dmoes]

There is no magic to mic elements   some ICOMs like higher output of 
electret


The K3 has such a broad range of what kind of mic you can plug in 
there will be no problem so long as the connector is correct  as the 
round Icom 8 pin is different than Kenwood/Elecraft wiring.





David Moes
VE3SD



On Sunday 14/08/2016 at 2:19 pm, Bill OMara via Elecraft  wrote:





Question:



Will a Heil headphone (example Pro set) with Icom Element work on a K3
without any modifications (Just K3 Microphone settings) when plugged 
into

the rear of the radio?



Thanks for the help.



73 Bill   W4RM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and inverter generators

[dmoes]

Have a look at this video  its pretty good from ARRL on small 
inverter generators.   the filter part is the key.


https://youtu.be/rOH7Ze7wreQ

I would not cheep out however   get a cheep generator and it might do 
you for a few years and you end up having to get another one

spend good money on a Honda or Yamaha and you have one for life.

we use an inverter generator for Field Day 4A+Gota and VHF  running 
various rigs and a serious selection of power supplies both linear and 
switching.  including desktops for each stationits either been a 
Honda  2800W inverter or a Yamaha 2400W inverter  both have noise 
filters at the generator and a ground rod at the generator.  so noise 
has not been an issue.




David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and inverter generators
From: Ramon Tristani 
To: Elecraft Mailing List 
Date: Wednesday, 10/08/2016 10:47 AM

I want to take my K3 out for portable use and also training for 
emergencies with my local ham friends here. I am thinking of buying 
the Predator Inverter Generator that Harbor Freight sells. Does 
anybody out there has had any experience with it while using it to 
power a radio? Comments appreciated.


Ramon, NQ9V


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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

[dmoes]

No No  not K3 = Big Macits SSB and even AM audio in general  = Big 
Mac


David Moes
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--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone
From: "Dr. William J. Schmidt, II" 
To: 
Date: Monday, 04/07/2016  9:11 PM



I like your analogy. K3 = Big Mac.



Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ 
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On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:31 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:





Never understood why one would spend so much on a mic.  even AM or 
ESSB  a mic like that Neumann TLM 103  mic is way overkill its 
sort like drinking a Dom Perignon  with a Big Mac.   any reasonable 
sounding mic will have better audio than the best sounding SSB 
transmitter will need.







David Moes
VE3SD





--- Original message ---

Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

From: David Ahrendts 

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Date: Monday, 04/07/2016  5:37 PM



I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the 
Heil PR 40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.




David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles







David Ahrendts   davidahren...@me.com









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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

[dmoes]

Never understood why one would spend so much on a mic.  even AM or 
ESSB  a mic like that Neumann TLM 103  mic is way overkill its 
sort like drinking a Dom Perignon  with a Big Mac.   any reasonable 
sounding mic will have better audio than the best sounding SSB 
transmitter will need.







David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone
From: David Ahrendts 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Monday, 04/07/2016  5:37 PM

I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the 
Heil PR 40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.


David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles



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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[dmoes]

‎To put it simply. Ive had a K3 for many years.   And have kept up to date with 
what is available.  Looked at Flex. Icom Hilberling. Etc   The only Rig I would 
consider trading my K3 for would be  a K3s.   


  Original Message  
From: Wes Stewart
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:59 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

Even Rob will tell you that one number does not a radio make.

Personally, for the most bang for the buck, I would be looking at one of the 
many non-S K3s that guys like me who have upgraded to a K3S are now offering 
for 
sale. I'm allowing mine to gather dust on the floor, because I've found from 
experience that it is best to have a spare, but others are out there. 
Performance wise, unless you put them side-by-side, on the same antenna, 
(something I haven't bother to do) or work six-meters, you probably wouldn't 
know the difference.

Wes N7WS


On 7/3/2016 10:46 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Reuben,
> I think Rob Sherwood answers this question best with his receiver ratings. 
> Google Sherwood labs.
> Dick, n0ce
>
>
> On 7/3/2016 4:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
>>
>> I'm looking for a bit on input here. I've had my K2 now for quite some
>> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day. But, because
>> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.
>>
>> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in QST
>> some years back. I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
>> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
>> in on some of the nets. My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
>> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
>> is until now.
>>
>> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents and
>> purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too. And at $500 less than what the
>> 10W K3S. That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times, doubly so
>> as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
>> hah). The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in the way
>> for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
>> There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
>>
>> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
>> future. Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
>> wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
>> please make sure I'm okay, lol. But in all seriousness, help me decide
>> here. Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run? I'm willing
>> to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
>> had best make it count.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to all and 73
>> Reuben
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DVR

[dmoes]

To be honest I don't use the built in DVR much.   I find that using 
the  DVR that is part of my logger32 and N1MM more versitile


David Moes
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--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR
From: John Santillo 
To: 
Date: Tuesday, 14/06/2016  8:44 PM

Hello,



Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog?  
I'm
trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 
button by

using a function key on the keyboard.

*   Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data
messages or DVR voice keyer messages

*   M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;}
*   M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;}
*   M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;}
*   M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;}

73,

John

N2HMM



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Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors

[dmoes]

Ive looked at  XT60s and the Deans connectors

Seems the Deans connectors are popular but look a little challenging 
to solder The XT60s are a little better that way for soldering but 
are more expensive60 is for 60 amps  I like overkill so it may  
seem a better option  but beware  they are not patented so I am sure 
there is a flood of cheep sub standard  knockoffs out there.


That said   I  haven't had much trouble with APP's   and everything in 
the shack and car that is 12V is using them.



to prevent separation of the red and black  I just touch the joint 
between them with the soldering iron melting some of the plastic 
together or a dab of crazy glue.I have when using heavy wire pried 
up the little leaf spring in the connector body before assembly  so 
that it has a little more force on the connector pin.  that seems to 
help.   I like the cost  $15 for a baggy of 10 pairs at the local ham 
shop.   XT60 at the local hobby store are more than twice that.   but 
then again he sells APP for 4.99 a pair.XT 60s are much cheeper if 
ordered online like Hobby King



David Moes
VE3DVY



--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
From: Michael Walker va...@portcredit.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, 17/02/2015  9:51 PM

I use APP's with great success.  Yes, I wish they were a little more 
firm

in their locking, but I do like the speed of crimping.

However, as I move forward, I will be switching to Dean's connectors 
or
XT60's only for the fact they don't require an expensive crimper and 
they

are very inexpensive.

Mike va3mw
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Re: [Elecraft] Bad Assumptions

[dmoes]

I somewhat agree that there is a lower ratio of computer connected 
users than one would think.Some time ago I asked around the club 
who had computer hookup and who did not.  I then did a presentation on 
logging software  using Logger32. and later with N1MM  this was a few 
years ago.


My findings were that most did not have the computer connected for CAT 
control.those that had older rigs didn't,  Id say less than a half 
with newer rigs were connected.  Some using the yeasu DMU  (if that 
counts as a computer) even some that did digital only had just  
the audio connections no RS232.  myself included before I had the K3.


For the Contesters the ratio was higherprobably halfMost of 
our contesters are casual  but even a few of the more intense 
contesters still have no RS232 or equivalent connected.   they 
manually entered the band into their software.


Almost all of these members have computers in the shack. I think 
in some cases is they feel that since they have never had it before 
they don't want it now.  others have saidthe radio has knobs to 
control it why bother with a computer some just say Oh I'm not a 
computer person and don't understand that stuff   I think there 
are some misconceptions out there   one being that if you hook a radio 
up to the computer you have to control it that way.I blame HRD for 
this  as it sure makes it look that way even though its still not the 
case. the other is that its complicated and difficult.   Many don't 
really understand the potential of using some level of computer 
connection.  In my case its very little  mostly just the information 
gathering like mode frequency etc  and using the band map and Packet 
cluster feed and being able to just click and automatically tune to a 
new or interesting spot.Today I think the ratio of those that have 
a connected computer is going up.   I often offer assistance in this.


There are only two of us that have K3s  in the club.  I've had mine 
for several years and the other member has only had his for a month or 
so.  ( Hi Ken.)  both of us have computer connections.


I would assume however  and yes this is an assumption that since the 
K3  is a complex rig that is most often purchased by those that are 
more than just the occasional ham, I suspect that the number of people 
with RS232 connections is significantly higher than my findings 
covering members that own a broad range of radio types.  Personally   
I couldn't wait to get a rig that could be hooked up   the K3s 
predecessor was a TS430s which cant be connected.


For those that have a computer in the shack for logging but don't have 
the serial connection,  give it a try.  It offers allot of 
conveniences that you might not recognize until you use it.  If you 
are logging with just about any half decent logging software it 
probably will connect  just fine, even if just for information 
gathering.


If you dont have an RS232 port on your computer  you can add either a 
USB to RS232 adapter or better a multi port PCI or PCIE serial 
adapter,  these all can be had for less than $30  and much-much  less 
if you buy online.



David Moes
VE3DVY



--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] Bad Assumptions
From: Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, 16/02/2015  8:10 PM

There seems to be an almost universal assumption that, if you have a 
transceiver in the shack, it is connected to a computer full-time.


That is certainly not the case. Plenty --perhaps most-- of hams 
operate their rigs in a standalone mode without computer, even while 
at home. This may come as a shock to some of you. Exceptions to this 
rule include while updating firmware.


This bad assumption usually rears its head when someone asks, What's 
the best way to operate split? or, How do you use the CW memories? 
and someone immediately responds, Well I push this here button in my 
favorite software and everything works great.


I'm always frustrated and even a little annoyed by responses like 
this. A response like this is not answering exactly what was asked. Or 
at least, it assumes far too much.


I recommend that, unless computer control is explicitly mentioned by 
the original poster, we shouldn't automatically offer a solution that 
requires a computer to work. Original posters should be more clear 
about whether a computer can be part of the solution.



Al  W6LX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY

[dmoes]

I left it there because I am using a pan adapter to find stations. so 
I don't need to see anything wider on MMTTY display.   but before I 
had it I would toggle between wide and narrow filter width as needed 
by pressing [hold]  the  width control knob


David Moes
VE3DVY



--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY
From: Ted Edwards W3TB w3tb@gmail.com
To: dm...@nexicom.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, 16/02/2015  2:01 PM



I also like the 400 Hz filter, but when tuning around like in this 
weekend's CQ WPX RTTY then I went much wider.


With that width came lots of noise.  What is a good idea on that?

And thanks ahead of time.


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:





David Moes
VE3DVY

Since I find that the 8 pole 250 Hz filter is really a bit wider   I 
tell my K3 in filter setups its 300hz It  works fine for me this way 
including on RTTY


During the WPXRTTY this weekend   I had good luck copying weak signals 
right beside a power house signal using the 250hz filter.





--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY
From: Jim's Desktop w...@cox.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, 16/02/2015  9:49 AM

The narrowest filter I have in both receivers is the 400 Hz one.  I
borrowed a K3 that had a 250 Hz filter in it once and tried it on 
RTTY.
It works, but it's right on the margin of being too narrow.  If 
someone
is using one of the older Packet TNC's that have RTTY mode in them 
(they

used 200 Hz shift instead of 170 and there are still a lot of them out
there) it's really hard to get them tuned in with a 250 Hz filter,
especially in weak signal/selective QSB situations.  The 400 Hz filter
doesn't seem to have that limitation though it does let slightly more
noise in (easily handled with the DSP filters anyway.

Jim - W0EB




On 2/15/2015 11:35 PM, David Cole wrote:



Hi,
I ordered and use the 400 for RTTY, I suspect the 250 is a bit to
narrow.




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and thinking about operating CW:
Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY

[dmoes]

David Moes
VE3DVY

Since I find that the 8 pole 250 Hz filter is really a bit wider   I 
tell my K3 in filter setups its 300hz It  works fine for me this way 
including on RTTY


During the WPXRTTY this weekend   I had good luck copying weak signals 
right beside a power house signal using the 250hz filter.


--- Original message ---
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: best roofing filter on RTTY
From: Jim's Desktop w...@cox.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, 16/02/2015  9:49 AM

The narrowest filter I have in both receivers is the 400 Hz one.  I
borrowed a K3 that had a 250 Hz filter in it once and tried it on 
RTTY.
It works, but it's right on the margin of being too narrow.  If 
someone
is using one of the older Packet TNC's that have RTTY mode in them 
(they

used 200 Hz shift instead of 170 and there are still a lot of them out
there) it's really hard to get them tuned in with a 250 Hz filter,
especially in weak signal/selective QSB situations.  The 400 Hz filter
doesn't seem to have that limitation though it does let slightly more
noise in (easily handled with the DSP filters anyway.

Jim - W0EB



On 2/15/2015 11:35 PM, David Cole wrote:


Hi,
I ordered and use the 400 for RTTY, I suspect the 250 is a bit to
narrow.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and RTTY

[dmoes]

Here is a good document that I found online that I used for reference
when I was setting up that will help it describes using N1MM and the
K3 and has a good section on using MMTTY and AFSK

http://www.n3me.net  follow the howto  link and select

N1MM software - control radio and log contests via computer and 
Elecraft K3


if you are willing to build the interface you can also use FSK I
plan to have this built soon. but I am using AFSK just fine for now
FSK just makes things a little easier as you do not have to worry
about audio levels etc.

http://n6mw.jimdo.com/k3-project/

I would however suggest that if you are using AFSK that you consider
a good external sound card like the Tascam card often discussed on
this list as the internal soundcard in most laptop including dell 
tendto be noisy


I hope you have luck with it and if so perhaps we will meet in the
CQ WPX RTTY.

David Moes
VE3DVY


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Re: [Elecraft] Signalink and K3 (you do not need need a Signal Link)

[dmoes]

The best is to key PTT via the serial port either use RTS or a 
command.  most good digital programs will do this for you.   I use 
VSPE so that I can use serveral programs at once that access the 
serial port that  controls the rig  like MMSSTV and logger.  and RTS 
and DTS will pass through these just fine.



If you accidentally send one of the windows sounds or any other sound 
like DX cluster alert sounds through the rig  you are possibly 
disrupting the other digital signals and as well for many reasons 
breaking the law.  so be sure they are off or not using the card 
connected to the rig.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Wednesday 12/11/2014 at 1:33 pm, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

The major problem with using VOX for digital modes is that often hams
forget to turn off Windows Sounds and end up transmitting those sounds
on the air.  Listen to the data mode sections of the bands and you 
will

hear it.
If you are using the internal soundcard, turning off Windows Sounds is
the only way to go (or do not use VOX).

If using an external soundcard, make certain that external soundcard 
is
*not* set as the default soundcard for the system (Windows normally 
sets
the most recently added soundcard to be the default) and then tell 
your

digital application to use the external soundcard.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/12/2014 1:09 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:


A lot of people use VOX instead of PTT for digital modes. —wunder




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Re: [Elecraft] Signalink and K3 (you do not need need a Signal Link)

[dmoes]

Jim  Im just curious

using the mic input is a problem because of noise presumably because 
you have to set the levels way to low so that the line output of the 
K3 doesn't swamp the mic input and by this you drastically narrow the 
dynamic range.   would building some sort of attenuator at the mic 
input help  in a pinch?  I know that having a good external usb device 
with line level inputs is ideal  but sometimes thats not so handy when 
setting up field day and you forgot the good card or need many for all 
the stations and doing it on a budget?


As for freeing up the serial port   I use Virtual serial port emulator 
as a data splitter to one serial port for multiple applications.   
Its fast enough that using RTS and DTR for ptt and keying CW and it 
works fine without timing issues even when multiple programs are 
watching the same port.
 well at least up to about 30WPM and probably well beyond but my 
brain wont go faster than that for CW




David Moes
VE3DVY


On Wednesday 12/11/2014 at 2:00 pm, Jim Brown  wrote:

On Wed,11/12/2014 10:06 AM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:


All I did was connect the line out on the K3 to the mic in on the 
computer (using a stereo cable) and the line in on the K3 to the 
headphone jack on the computer.


Yes, it works. The headphone out to the K3 is good enough for all ham
uses. The mic input is NOT good enough -- as has been noted, mic 
inputs

tend to be very noisy, so they don't allow decoding of weaker signals.
The difference can easily be 10 dB (10x the power). THAT'S why anyone
serious about digital modes needs a dedicated USB I/O box. See the 
link

I posted yesterday for recommendations of specific products.  Or go to
k9yc.com/publish.htm



Only thing missing was a way to key the K3.   This is easily solved by 
using the RS-232 port on the K3;


It's also easily solved by using VOX, which doesn't tie up a serial
port. Just pay attention to Don Wilhelm's advice.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Signalink and K3

[dmoes]

Jim  and Jorge

I was merely answering Jorge's  question.   perhaps I should have 
given better advice and steered Jorge away from signal link  as you 
did. I do agree that a signalink or similar is far from ideal and  
even less so on the K3 as it would be doubling up on the isolation 
transformers that are already part of the KIO3 board in the K3 
possibly leading to additional loss in quality.


so to Jorge Diez  here is my revised answer!

  Forget the signal link, Rigblaster or other commercial fit all rigs 
type solution.   get a good high quality sound adapter like the tascam 
from BH as stated in Jims article  you will be way better off this 
way for decoding and encoding for psk, rtty SSTV and  more important 
JTXX, WSPR etc. than the users of the mediocre commercial  fit all 
rigs solutions and at a better price.   I think setting up with this 
would actually be simpler than mucking about with the jumpers etc of 
the signalink   there is no need for a PTT connection either as most 
digial software will handle this via command or vox.   keep it 
available for a foot switch.


I am using an old M-Audio mobile pre USB  that was retired from field 
recording sound effects.  its perfect for this use.  I believe it was 
Jim's article some years ago that lead me this way and I'm glad I did.


PS  BH  is a great source for this kind of stuff  I use them for most 
of my audio and photo needs.



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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions for good 192kHz external sound card fordigital modes

[dmoes]

Im just curious

I can see the bit depth making a difference   16 bit will have poor 
dynamic range compared to 24 or 32 bit  and this is important for some 
modes like wspr or JTXX,   but is there any advantage to high bit 
rates in digital modeseven a 44khz card has a bandwidth way beond 
what any digital mode on HF needs.or is it that to get a 32bit 
adapter just by default it will have high bit rates.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Tuesday 11/11/2014 at 7:08 pm, David Orman  wrote:

Hi,

Splitting off from the Signalink thread, since it's actually a 
different
question, what are the current external sound cards that people 
suggest

(that are supported in Linux if known - if not - that's ok)?

I see the Tascam mentioned in the PDF in the other thread, so I'm 
looking

into those (the ones that support 192kHz now, that is) - are there any
other suggestions to look into? I operate on a lot of digital modes, 
but my

Lenovo Thinkpad T400's built in sound card adds a lot of noise to the
signal I'm receiving. I have a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 
which
works much better, but it is USB powered (it seemed to be indicated 
this

was a no-no for best decoding in digital modes in the other thread).

There are a lot of options out there now, so it's hard to sift through 
them

all, and make a guess as to which are best for HF radio digital
communication, so I thought a thread would be helpful in getting some 
ideas
on what is tested/true. If Linux support is unknown, that's ok - I can 
do
that research - but it would be great to have a list to start looking 
at

that are known good performers with low noise.

Thanks!
David/K5DJO
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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestions for good 192kHz external sound cardfordigital modes

[dmoes]

Thanks  that makes sense to me now.   I was thinking K3   not KX3   
it makes sense with the KX3


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Tuesday 11/11/2014 at 9:01 pm, David Orman  wrote:


KX3 == SDR == able to display large chunk of spectrum at a time. A 
44kHz card significantly limits this. My PX3 does 200kHz well. fldigi 
with some source code edits can too.


Thank you for all of the responses, I'm reading up on every suggestion 
(and site linked).


Thanks!
David

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:51 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:



Im just curious

I can see the bit depth making a difference   16 bit will have poor 
dynamic range compared to 24 or 32 bit  and this is important for some 
modes like wspr or JTXX,   but is there any advantage to high bit 
rates in digital modeseven a 44khz card has a bandwidth way beond 
what any digital mode on HF needs.or is it that to get a 32bit 
adapter just by default it will have high bit rates.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Tuesday 11/11/2014 at 7:08 pm, David Orman  wrote:


Hi,

Splitting off from the Signalink thread, since it's actually a 
different
question, what are the current external sound cards that people 
suggest

(that are supported in Linux if known - if not - that's ok)?

I see the Tascam mentioned in the PDF in the other thread, so I'm 
looking

into those (the ones that support 192kHz now, that is) - are there any
other suggestions to look into? I operate on a lot of digital modes, 
but my

Lenovo Thinkpad T400's built in sound card adds a lot of noise to the
signal I'm receiving. I have a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 
which
works much better, but it is USB powered (it seemed to be indicated 
this

was a no-no for best decoding in digital modes in the other thread).

There are a lot of options out there now, so it's hard to sift through 
them

all, and make a guess as to which are best for HF radio digital
communication, so I thought a thread would be helpful in getting some 
ideas
on what is tested/true. If Linux support is unknown, that's ok - I can 
do
that research - but it would be great to have a list to start looking 
at

that are known good performers with low noise.

Thanks!
David/K5DJO
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Re: [Elecraft] Signalink and K3

[dmoes]

if you plan to use a signalink you order it with the K3 Cables.  
SignaLink USB p/n SLUSBK3


Keep in mind that you really don't need a signal link with the K3   
any good sound card will work  as the K3 has isolation built in.  all 
you need is cables with 3.5mm plugs on the ends to plug into K3 line 
in and out.


the advantage of the signallink is that it has real level pots and its 
becomes a second sound card.


David Moes
VE3SD


On Monday 10/11/2014 at 4:14 pm, Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:

Hello



I am to buy a signalink and want to know which is the best way to 
connect it

to the K3 so I can order the right cables



Thanks!

Jorge

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Re: [Elecraft] MMTTY DATA-A or FSK

[dmoes]

Joe  you are correct that if there are physical problems and poor 
adjustments it will be bad  but I was assuming a good working setup 
with a quality sound card that is properly adjusted at both the 
computer and K3 that it will be fine.


   I hope that they add the ability to monitor Transmit signal on the 
P3 to see how it looks going out.  however you can see your real 
signal by watching your signal on the many online SDR's, 
http://websdr.org/,  that have waterfall displays in real time.



David Moes
VE3DVY


On Thursday 02/10/2014 at 9:01 am, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:




risk is any off frequency noise from the sound card, harmonics etc
will also get transmitted not really a big issue if the sound card is
good quality.


Not quite accurate ... one can have a professional quality sound card
and if the levels are too high, the connections are not correct, the
ground gets opened, one has a significant degree of common mode RF on
the feedline, one has power supply issues, etc. DATA_A can be very
badly distorted/wide.  AFSK A is not subject to those issues as long
as the narrow filter (CONFIG: AFSK TX) is enabled.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-02 7:30 AM, david Moes wrote:


With AFSK-A  the K3  has very a narrow DSP filter to maintain a really
good transmit IMD  so you need to keep the modulating frequencies
within  the chosen preset filter range  1275 in my setup.  You can use
the waterfall to tune but you need to use DATA-A instead of AFSK-A 
risk
is any off frequency noise from the sound card, harmonics etc will 
also

get transmitted   not really a big issue if the sound card is good
quality.   I found that with the P3 the markers lined up with the mark
frequency  so tuning with the VFO was quite convenient without the P3  
I

may have been more tempted to use Data-A and tuning with the mouse

David Moes
President: Peterborough Amateur Radio Club.
dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY,  VE3SD

On 10/2/2014 06:32, David Cole wrote:


Why only tune the radio, and not use the Waterfall?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Mono or stereo speaker

[dmoes]

Actually.  If the speaker is set to one it will still send signal to the ring 
connection. Just mono.   Even if there is nothing going to the ring.  By using 
a mono plug that will short ring to sleve.  Just with the power on thump you 
could create a problem.  Change the connector. Leave the ring open. 
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Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 14:52:52 
To: Edward F. Steinfeldedw...@go-embedded.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Mono or stereo speaker

If, and only if you have Speakers set to 1, you can use a mono plug.  DONOT 
set speakers to 2 with it inserted however.  Smoke will escape and you will 
be faced with a repair.

My rule is: NEVER plug a mono plug in the Speaker jack, EVER!

bill nr4c

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Edward F. Steinfeld edw...@go-embedded.com wrote:

I have an external speaker with a monaural plug. If I set Speakers to 1 can
I use the mono plug? The write-up is slightly confusing to me.

73,
KB1ZJK - Ed

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Off Grid

[dmoes]

The current readings on the Killowat are showing AC into the power supply. 
losses in the Astron there and with additional  loads it will be drawing more 
power than the K3 alone. The other question is the Killowatt reading peak 
currents or RMS.In a perfect world with a 100 percent efficient power 
supply connected to a K3 drawing 15A at 13.8V. The power supply will draw 
1.7A. At 120 V ac.But even the best power supplies especially analogue  are 
far from 100 percent efficient.  So your readings are reasonable   onto that, 
and I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, the K3 will draw somewhat 
more than 15A. Key down at 100W  so the am meter on the Astron may be reading a 
little low. 
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 12:16:23 
To: Frank R. Oppedijkfr...@qrd.nl
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Off Grid

OK, here are some new readings, taken with a Kill-A-Watt power consumption
meter.  The readings in transmit mode were taken by keying down in CW for a
few seconds and waiting until the meter reading stabilized.

I have an Astron 70A power supply powering a Rigrunner that then supplies a
K3, a KAT500, and a PigKnob.  The P3 is plugged into the K3.  There is a
set of speakers, which draw .06A AC as well.

K3 in RCV mode   .92A AC, or 84W   6 DC  at  14v
K3 in XMIT, 15W out  2.7A AC, or 240W17A DC
K3 in XMIT, 50W out  3.7A AC, or 342W24A DC
K3 in XMIT, 100W out4.7A AC, or 438W31A DC

How do these look to everyone?  I'd like to get them close to right so that
I can calculate my battery needs for emergency operation.

Something else I don't understand is the ammeter on the front of the
Astron.  When the K3 is turned on,  the Astron's meter jumps up about 1A
DC.  When the K3 is transmitting at 15W, the Astron's meter reads about 7A
DC.  At 50W transmitted power, it reads 11A DC. And at 100W out, it reads
15A DC.  Quite a difference from the measured and computed DC amps listed
above.  What is going on here?  Simply an innaccurate Astron meter?

Thanks,
   -Paul, N1HEL




On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk fr...@qrd.nl wrote:

  My K3, on receive, with the KAT500 in-line, the P3, and my massive 70A
 Astron p.s. powering the K3, drew about 20A DC.  Putting the K3 in transmit
 mode, with just under 12W drive (so as not to kick in the 100w amp)
 required about 30A DC.  Boosting the output to 50W drew about 70A DC.
  Running it wide open, at 100W out, required about 80A DC.  And finally,
 turning on the KPA-500, with 15W drive to yield 300W out, required 150A DC.

 I haven't made any measurements myself, but I do believe there must be
 some error in your numbers. If RX draws 20A and TX at 100W draws 80A, that
 means 60A x 12V = 720W input power to create 100W RF output. The other 620W
 must be dissipated into heat, which, I guess, would melt the K3 over time
 :) There clearly must be an error somewhere.

 Also, 20A on RX seems way too high for me. The K3 by itself draws 2A on
 RX, IIRC. Add an extra 1A for the P3 and the KAT500 maybe, and we're still
 missing 17A.

 Was your measurement device faulty, or do you have an error in your maths?

 73 de Frank PA4N

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Re: [Elecraft] Buying a new K3/100 kit - Top 3 options?

[dmoes]

My Humble thoughts   Ive had my K3 for 2 years   can't imagine going 
back to my old rig.


here is what I got.
K3/100
with
KAT3 auto tuner
KXV3A RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface
2.8 filter
1.8 filter
250hz filter

after 2 years  I doubt that the 2.8 filter was really worth it.  the 
2.7 would have been fine.  the 1.8 does help in big contests were 
you have big guns a few KHZ away from the QRP you are trying to work.  
but otherwise it to wasn't really needed  but Im glad i have it.

Im happy I have the 250HZ  both for contesting CW and PSK
haven't used the KXV3A yet.  was planning a beverage for RX and it 
hasn't happened yet.   also will be getting P3 soon. so good thing I 
have the KXV3A anyway.



I would have been fine with K3/100 +  KAT3 + 250hz filter

still wanting P3 badly.  plus general coverage receive band pass 
filters and FM filter as it will do AM as well.   you dont really need 
the KTCXO3-1 for most digital modes like PSK Hell MFSK etc  but if you 
plan to use frequency sensitive modes like JT65 its a must.  I play 
digital alot and never had an issue.



By the way  its not the cool aid that made me go K3.  its just that 
the K3 is a damn good rig period!



David Moes
VE3DVY


On Thursday 20/02/2014 at 6:45 pm, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] Would anyone like to see an all-modeVHF/UHF offering from Elecraft?

[dmoes]

A rig would be good but whats more my interest I would really like to 
see Elecraft  make a matching amplifier for VHF/UHF to go with the 
transverters and K3 with the 2m added.


David Moes
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Headphones

[dmoes]

Hi Anndel

 I am not at home but as recall the gain setting  I use  its pretty 
low as the mic int the CM500 is quite sensitive.  I recall for EQ I 
dropped the lowest down almost all the way and the next lowest just a 
bit down.   A for compression I am about 10 but a bit more would be 
fine in a quieter place but I am next to the furnace and hot water 
tank both have noisy fans.  for PTT,  at first I just squeezed the 
hand mic. even though it was not the mic in use for audio the PTT 
worked.   Then I found an old foot switch from a musical keyboard that 
was junk and re-engineered it a bit so it was on when pressed and off 
when released and put a line with an RCA on it.   I thought I wouldn't 
like the foot switch but after using it for a bit I find it really 
handy and would be hard pressed to do without.  much nicer than a hand 
switch with my hand free to log and type.  I also use it with the desk 
mic. as for the weight difference   I guess that the heils are 
actually lighter   I haven't weighed them myself  but the more comfy 
CM500s just seem lighter on the head.


I also have a pair of David Clarke 10-40s they weigh a ton and 
could squeeze juice out of a rock.   but at field day with the crowds 
milling around and the other operators yelling (I guess they think 
that by yelling into the mic they can squeeze the extra watt out and 
get more QSOs)   the DC's are indispensable.   I can't hear a thing 
other than what I want to hear.

Hope this helps.

PS I cc'd to the reflector


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Tuesday 30/10/2012 at 1:24 am, Anndel  wrote:


 Aloha,  I read your reply on the Elecraft reflector regarding the 
 Yamaha CM500 headphones.  I couldn’t reply to the reflector no 
 matter how many times I’ve inputted my correct email address so I 
 apologize for the direct email.  What are the setting you use (I just 
 want a guide, will fine tune them to my needs) and how do you PTT with 
 VOX? Or do you use the XMIT switch on the K3’s front panel or a 
 separate PTT switch?  I have the CM500 but never used it.

 73 and thanks,

 Delwyn, KH6DC

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Headphone recommendations for K3

[dmoes]

if you look through the history of the reflector you will find many 
recomendations for the Yamaha CM500.   I cant say enough about mine.   
 They arent ear buds but  they are light weight and quite comfy 
compared to many of the heavier high priced units

They are not expensive  about $50   fairly well built and are quite 
light.   they are over the ear   as opposed to on the ear type so  any 
presure is against the head and not the ear.   but that pressure is 
not much at all.I wear them for hours on end  with comfort to the 
point that I can walk away only to get jerked back because I forgot 
they were there.   they work very well with the K3  as many will 
tell you.



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Headphone recommendations for K3
 From: Dave Weiss davidhwe...@gmail.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, 29/10/2012  2:17 PM

 *Hi Gang:*
 *
 *
 *I have been using a Heil Proset Plus for 5 years and have finally had 
 it
 with the pressure that they create on my ears. *
 *Changing the ear muffs and cover does not help, not that I expected 
 that
 but I did it because I had them.  The CQWW SSB contest was a killer 
 for me
 and I am done with them!*
 *
 *
 *I would like some recommendations on a high quality replacement with 
 ear
 buds and a high quality mike that works well with the K3.*
 *
 *
 *My research has just begun so any guidance would be appreciated.
 *
 *
 *
 *-- 73
 Dave  K3FT*

 *
 *
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Any good experience/recommendations with boostregulators with K3?

[dmoes]

I don't use a booster either.   I run from solar charged RV battery at 
the cabin. when I see that the voltage is getting low (below 12V) 
I reduce power to 50W and at 11V  I go to bed.   The trick here is 
short heavy supply cables.  I have about 6 feet of 10 AWG  with a 12 
inch 12AWG jumper   at the rig.   I found that the 10AWG into the rig 
was to stiff and would pull out if things were moved. except for only 
once on PSK that I think was a problem at his end not mine, I have 
never had complaints of splatter or degraded audio even when the 
voltage aproaches 11V.



David Moes
VE3DVY




 Bob,
Not sure why you'd need a boost regulator.  The K3 is one of the 
 very few
 HF transceivers that specifies it will work fine down to 11v.  I've 
 used
 mine for years from a 12v SLA with no problems at all.  Use 100AH
 SLA(wheelchair battery) at home (use Powergate to charge/control 
 voltage),
 so most of the time K3 supply is sitting at 13.8v.  However, I often 
 unplug
 AC when storms are near.  I often forget to plug AC back in and the K3 
 runs
 on 12v for weeks of daily nets before I notice low input voltage.  
 (Couple
 of hours a day at 100 watts tx, SSB).
When camping with Boy Scouts, I usually use a 26AH SLA.  Never had 
 a
 problem with that either.  However, I usually run around 40 watts 
 power to
 help conserve energy.  That's usually just a weekend.
If you want to be able to run another brand transceiver from 
 battery
 power, then, yes, you do need the boost regulator.  Elecraft rocks!
 Oscar, WB5GCX


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW text decoder

[dmoes]

Coming from a guy that is trying very hard to learn code,  Its hard to 
resist the text decoder but have only used it as a crutch in contests. 
 When I am just having day to day QSOs I plod along without the 
decoder helping me.  After well over a year of learning CW I find that 
I would have been part of that 70% going off to cook school.   I am 
struggling and sometimes feel like giving it all up and throw out the 
key.   I made the mistake of starting slow and I think that is part of 
my problem now.   so for the last little while, at same advice of a 
local CW champion, I have been listening to other QSOs plus and using  
the learning program just learn Morse Code  sending at least 20WPM 
or faster either random words and abreviations or some text files.   I 
did have a text file of some 500 plus QSOs  that were great to use for 
learning but cant find it.

As for the CW decoder  its nice to have in contests for a beginner but 
I think it could also become a bad habit.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Monday 23/07/2012 at 9:43 am, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
 In the later years, since the no-code decision in USA licensing
 particularly, I have noted an increase of contest QSO's where the 
 other end
 obviously copies 25 WPM somehow and only sends 8-10 wpm, and that 
 clearly
 on a hand key.

 The flurry of complaints, when 4.51 partially unglued the CW text 
 decode on
 the K3, further confirms it.

 As someone who could copy 20 WPM at age 14, and can still copy 50-60 
 wpm in
 my head, it is hard to imagine listening to code and not simply
 understanding it, like someone talking to me.  I've asked some folks 
 why
 the difficulty learning code, and they relate something that usually 
 sounds
 like the 13 WPM barrier tale.

 As it turns out, the old way to learn code is all wrong as a universal
 method.  Code needs to be learned like a language, and at 20 wpm to 
 start
 with.   But that's not how it's done the old way.   The old way has 
 been
 around since WWII and the Army Signal Corps. Memorize the alphabet 
 with
 visual dots and dashes beside it.  Then just keep at it until you 
 don't
 need the card any more.  Do it with a typewriter from the get go.
 Eventually a sound in the ear is directly linked to a typewriter key,
 copied autonomically, and you can carry on an unrelated conversation 
 at the
 same time.  Buggers don't know what they've copied until they read it 
 on
 the page.  Really.

 OF COURSE that worked, FOR THEIR PURPOSES.  People CAN learn code that 
 way.
 But quite MORE CANNOT.  What did army do?  They sent 100 draftees into 
 a
 class and then kept the 30 best in the signal corp and sent the other 
 70
 back to the infantry.  That WOULD work for an army.  But it clearly is 
 not
 a universal method, and using dash dot cards prevalently in hamdom all
 these years produces a 70% who gave up on code, and now use CW 
 decoders in
 CW contests because CW contests are FUN!!! and CW covers distance way
 better than SSB.

 So what's this cr*p about learning code at 20 WPM?  NOBODY can 
 translate 20
 wpm sound to dididahdahdidit and then to question mark by looking at 
 the
 card, at 20 WPM.

 Well, you're exactly right, of course they can't, and that's the 
 point.
 THAT METHOD is doomed to failure for 70% of those who try it.

 CW needs to be learned from 20 wpm code SOUNDS.   The *WORD* and at 
 40
 wpm has a distinctive sound that has nothing to do with letters.  The 
 WORD
 and has the same exact sound at 20, 35, 50 and 75 wpm, if the 
 sending and
 receiving hasn't mushed the sound and made it indistinct at  higher 
 speeds.
 Not hearing it at 75 is a matter of INDISTINCTNESS or not 
 concentrating,
 it's not copy speed.  If it's distinct the word and  sounds the same 
 at
 any speed.

 One will not be able to copy German at 50 wpm, if you don't know the 
 SOUND
 of German words in CW.

 It's like listening to an auctioneer talking really fast.  The issue 
 is
 making your mind stay up with him and how clearly he ennunciates his 
 fast
 words.

 New way.  Code learners hear the sounds of most common letters at 20 
 wpm
 right off the bat.  E  T  A N.  You memorize the SOUND,  no visual 
 dots and
 dashes, no repeating dits and dahs to oneself.  You learn the SOUND of 
 the
 letter, first off.  Then learn words:   eat   tea   net  at  an  ten
 Speed is never an issue.  Ever.  Almost nobody fails in this method.

 You don't need to text decode that code.  You just listen to it, just 
 like
 listening to SSB.  Except CW has that 10 dB advantage and you get a 
 lot
 more signals in the same space.

 Contact W0UCE.   See w0uce.net   Life can be good.  Listen to a CW QSO 
 as
 you walk around the room doing something else.  Keep firmware 4.51.

 73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

[dmoes]

CW decoder worked fine for me on field day.  and since I still have 
the CW training wheels on, I sure needed the help.

CW decode THR at 3 and speed at 30-90 (I think what ever is the higher 
setting)   this decoded fine with speeds well below 30.cant 
remember exact AGC settings but fairly high threshold for CW. I do 
tend to set AF gain to one level and use rf gain for good listening 
level   this also helps the cw decoder by keeping noise down.



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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?
 From: Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thursday, 28/06/2012 11:47 AM

 Eric,
 I thought that there were issues with the CW decoder w/4.51. Did I 
 miss
 the fix on this?

 73,
 Scott, N9AA


 On 6/28/12 6:23 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:

 The beta test of 4.51 was successful and it will be changed to final 
 on the web site shortly. Feel free to download the zipped beta files 
 and install them. The final version is exactly the same.

 73,
 Eric. WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

[dmoes]

K3 voltage specs are 11-15Vand the Eagle spec is 13.8V +- 15%
that's  about 11.7V- 15.9V.   even though the Eagle would not shut 
down you were definitely running below spec voltage and probably 
causing some IMD  if not excessive heat.

My  other concern would be how low was the battery voltage getting.   
AGM  or any wet battery for that matter should not be used when the 
voltage right at the battery posts drops to low.   if it is you are 
damaging the battery. and 10V is definitely too low.   At my summer 
cottage its solar charged battery only.when the cell voltage is 
near 11.4V  I still get  11V at the rig at 100W keydown as I use heavy 
cable mostly 10AWG from the battery only 5ft away and a short 12 AWG 
from the distribution to the rig.   The battery also runs lighting 
etc.   Ive never had the K3 shutdown due to voltage faults. and my 
rule is if it goes below 11.3V at the terminals it time to go QRT and 
bed.

The K3 shutting down is just a safety measure to prevent damage and 
dirty transmissions.   Not a problem in my opinion, more a good 
feature.I hope that the other rig wasn't splattering to much at  
those lower voltages.


David Moes
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 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3
 From: Peter Wollan peter.wol...@gmail.com
 To: John Kountz j...@t6ee.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thursday, 28/06/2012  2:07 PM

 The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
 supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
 the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
 or because the battery is defective.

 The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
 radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
 down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
 see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
 think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.

 You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
 radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
 needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.

Peter W0LLN


 On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz j...@t6ee.com wrote:

 ...  In tandom
 operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 
 10
 VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol

[dmoes]

David Moes
VE3DVY

Hi Bruce   if you are using SSB this means that you are in Extended 
single sideband, a wider bandwidth ssb mode.

To turn it off  enter config and TX ESSB  and tap 1 to toggle.






 Recently I noticed a new symbol has appeared on the LCD of my K-3. It 
 is a plus symbol + which is at the bottom right-hand side of the LCD. 
 I don't recall seeing it there before now. Does anyone know what it 
 means? And how I could remove it? It does not seem to have impacted 
 the operation of the K-3 but since it is not something I have seen 
 before I think I would rather see it disappear. I have looked through 
 the owners manual but I can't seem to find any reference to it other 
 than the page which shows all of the symbols that might appear on the 
 LCD and it does appear to be in the lower right-hand corner. 
 Unfortunately, I can't seem to find an explanation for it

 Bruce - W8FU
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Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol

[dmoes]

Holy Cow!  we all answered at once! sorry Bruce didn't mean to clobber 
you.


 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol
 From: dm...@nexicom.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, 06/06/2012  3:00 PM





 David Moes
 VE3DVY

 Hi Bruce   if you are using SSB this means that you are in Extended
 single sideband, a wider bandwidth ssb mode.

 To turn it off  enter config and TX ESSB  and tap 1 to toggle.







 Recently I noticed a new symbol has appeared on the LCD of my K-3. It
 is a plus symbol + which is at the bottom right-hand side of the LCD.
 I don't recall seeing it there before now. Does anyone know what it
 means? And how I could remove it? It does not seem to have impacted
 the operation of the K-3 but since it is not something I have seen
 before I think I would rather see it disappear. I have looked through
 the owners manual but I can't seem to find any reference to it other
 than the page which shows all of the symbols that might appear on the
 LCD and it does appear to be in the lower right-hand corner.
 Unfortunately, I can't seem to find an explanation for it

 Bruce - W8FU
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[Elecraft] K3 psk D splater

[dmoes]

 Last evening I was trying another aspect of my K3I often work PSK 
using AFSK but I thought Id give it a try using PSK-D using Kcomm

I set everyting and it was decoding fine on the K3 display and in 
Kcomm.There was a strong station that was calling CQ so i gave him 
a call   while having a good QSO he mentioned that I was splattering a 
bit and I should not drive as hard. rather than explaining that I 
wasnt using AFSK  I just quickly said thanks Ill look into it and 73.  
   Question, What can cause splatter when using PSK-D  I had the power 
dialed to  25W so I certainly wasn.t running to much power,  and just 
to be sure that I was actually using PSK -d I had pulled the audio 
line in/out from the K3. Am I missing something?   I will be trying 
again hooking my other rig up to another computer so that I can 
monitor my output in Fldigi, just in case he was seeing issues at his 
end.


David Moes
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater

[dmoes]

Hi Jim   Thanksgood tips but Keep in mind I am using PSK-D  where 
I am sending serial data to the K3 and letting it do the modulation.  
so there is no audio path from the PC into the K3.   before I had  
the K3 using the sound card was my only option  and even now when 
using AFSK to the K3  I dont believe I have an issue.  It was just 
when I tried to let the K3 handle the modulation that I got this 
response  and as others have pointed out it is very possible y that 
there is someting at his end.   I was just wondering though if there 
was someting I can do to controll the IMD at the K3 when using PSK-D 
as opposed to PSK-A



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater
 From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, 30/05/2012 12:42 PM

 On 5/30/2012 6:13 AM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:

 Question, What can cause splatter when using PSK-D

 Splatter is simply distortion. Anything in the audio chain can cause
 splatter, from the computer to the audio section of the K3.  Many
 (most?) computer sound cards will create distortion if turned up too
 high, and turning it up too high can also cause the input of the radio
 to create distortion.

 You can hook a scope to the output of the sound card and watch it for
 clipping of the sine wave as you adjust the gain (on the Windows
 PLAYBACK mixer). Turn the gain up until it you just begin to see
 clipping, or until the signal stops getting stronger, then reduce the
 gain until the voltage drops to one half of that value (that is, the
 trace is half as tall).  If you don't have a scope, LISTEN to the 
 sound
 card with headphones and make the same adjustment. What you're 
 listening
 for is any harshness that appears when you turn it up, and when you 
 hear
 it, reduce the gain until it sounds half as loud.

 Now you're ready to adjust the Line Input gain of the K3 according to
 the K3 manual.

 73, Jim Brown K9YC.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater

[dmoes]

Just to add to my original question  and this may come out when I test 
it using the other radioHow much power can you safely use with 
PSK-D.   I don't like to use much power to start with but in rare 
occasion a  little boost can help.   just curios how much boost can I 
make.

I will try the utility,  Kcomm and keying with the paddles.  but as 
you say there should be no difference.   I wont get to it tonight but 
will try sometime in the next day or two. and report my findings.
My only worry is can I attenuate enough to run the K3 to near full 
power and not swamp the Kenwood to much.   probably a dummy load on 
both.





David Moes
VE3DVY


On Wednesday 30/05/2012 at 1:49 pm, Rick Prather  wrote:
 Right!

 He said he was going to set up an outside monitor to look at his 
 signal.  Perhaps when that's set up it would be interesting to compare 
 the Kcomm generated text with  just the K3 Utility.

 Don't know why it would make a difference but could be a starting 
 place if it does.

 Rick
 K6LE

 On 5/30/2012, at 9:52 , iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:


 You missed the point - he's not using an external audio feed to the
 K3. I've never used Kcomm, but if it operates in PSK D mode, it must
 be sending commands, with text, to the K3, and the K3 does all of the
 modulation.

 73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

[dmoes]

do you have WiFi

my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when 
the antenna is disconnected. havn't checked the spacing but that 
seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried 
6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the 
net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the 
grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the 
router is unplugged.



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:

 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz 
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of 
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of 
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:



 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see 
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

[dmoes]

hmm  wierd another source in our home for birdies  is the 
front loading washer, its another badie   Its motor is some kind of DC 
servo or VF-AC.  With the variation that you are seeing It may be 
something with a motor. It tends to be problematic  on 80 and 40. 
and I believe they are moving, i dont have the p3 so I cant say for 
sure but it seems so when I see it in the puny view that EasyPal 
offers.



David Moes
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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: dm...@nexicom.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  2:30 PM

 I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply

 Check an other picture:
 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies2.png

 The P3 is in 'Fixed tune mode' (so when you turn the dial, the green
 bar will move)
 You see that the 'birdies' move, quickly. At 50.024 you see a CW 
 beacon.

 When removing the antenna, the 'birdies' stay.

 John

 2012/5/22  dm...@nexicom.net:

 do you have WiFi

 my dlink router is throwing birdies big time  and its still there when
 the antenna is disconnected. havn't checked the spacing but that
 seems about correct. They are most noticable on 15-10m  havn't tried
 6m.  one birdie sits right on a local 10m net frequency so when the
 net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the
 grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the
 router is unplugged.



 David Moes
 VE3DVY




 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies
 From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu
 Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM

 Hello Geoff!

 I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band,
 the birdies are a bit less.

 On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an
 S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening
 to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the birdy
 is much less noticable. It barely moves the meter.

 Also when listening with one ear to the main rx and the other ear to
 the sub rx while slowly tuning, I can hear on the main
 receiver 'whooop whoop whooop' while nothing is heard on the
 subreceiver. (receivers linked)

 Ideas?

 John


 2012/5/22 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu:


 Hello John,

 Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz
 apart,
 leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of
 power
 supply.

 Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of
 the
 10m band?

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On May 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM, John Bekema wrote:




 Hello group!

 I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see
 on
 your P3
 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected.

 I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment
 pretty dead.

 http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png

 Is this 'normal' ? I have the feeling that the birdies got worse after
 installing the subrx.


 Thank you for your comments!


 Kind regards,

 John de OH2GBA





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[Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little 
advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set 
of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will 
periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.

Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont 
know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and 
lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being 
messed up.

What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what 
precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.



Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
David Moes

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I agree that this is risky but Id like to point out thatit will be 
used by a core group.   who are pretty dedicated and they are all used 
to some pretty nice rigs just none a K3It will not be the GOTA 
station we have a ts430 for that.  I am just wanting to avoid to much 
confusion.  If we all had a few old rigs kicking arround we would use 
them.   having the config files to correct  someones  boo boo is a 
great idea.  I guess I would have thought of that eventually.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Friday 11/05/2012 at 1:04 pm, Anthony Scandurra K4QE  wrote:
 David,

 This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.

 I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you 
 know for
 a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.

 If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
 dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a 
 Yaesu
 FT-747.

 Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
 frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some 
 state
 rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick 
 resolution
 because you won't know exactly what they changed.

 Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the 
 operators
 are K3-aware.

 73, Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: dm...@nexicom.net
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

 I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
 advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
 of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
 periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.

 Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
 know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
 lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
 messed up.

 What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
 precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.



 Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
 David Moes

 VE3DVY






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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I like it

  we used to have the same warning in the control booth at a local 
community theatre.




David Moes
VE3DVY


On Friday 11/05/2012 at 3:39 pm, Buck - k4ia  wrote:
 I've taken mine out on Field Day for the past 3 years. Not a problem.

 If you're really worried, use the K3 utility to back up your settings
 and you can restore pretty easily.

 If that doesn't work, post the following:

 ACHTUNG!
 Alles touristen und non-technischen look unds peepers!

 Das machin kontrol is nicht fur dial gespinnen, finger gepoken und
 mitten grabben.
 Uderwise ist easy schnappen der springenverk, blowen fuzen, und poppen
 corken mit spitzen sparken.

 Der radio machine ist fur experten operator.
 Ist nicht fur geverken by dumpkopfen.

 Rubber necken zighten seers keepen sur cotton picken hands in sur 
 pockets.

 Pencil necken geeken farbs - relaxen, und vatchen das blinken lights.

 Buck
 k4ia


 On 5/11/2012 3:11 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:

 I agree that this is risky but Id like to point out thatit will be
 used by a core group.   who are pretty dedicated and they are all used
 to some pretty nice rigs just none a K3It will not be the GOTA
 station we have a ts430 for that.  I am just wanting to avoid to much
 confusion.  If we all had a few old rigs kicking arround we would use
 them.   having the config files to correct  someones  boo boo is a
 great idea.  I guess I would have thought of that eventually.


 David Moes
 VE3DVY


 On Friday 11/05/2012 at 1:04 pm, Anthony Scandurra K4QE  wrote:

 David,

 This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.

 I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you
 know for
 a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.

 If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
 dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a
 Yaesu
 FT-747.

 Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
 frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some
 state
 rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick
 resolution
 because you won't know exactly what they changed.

 Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the
 operators
 are K3-aware.

 73, Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: dm...@nexicom.net
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

 I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
 advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
 of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
 periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.

 Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
 know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
 lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
 messed up.

 What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
 precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.



 Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
 David Moes

 VE3DVY






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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig? isnt this an elecraft reflector?

[dmoes]

It seems like there are more kenwood posts here then Elecraft.   :(



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig?
 From: Dave-Boat Guy anavig...@yahoo.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thursday, 10/05/2012  2:12 PM

 Let us not be too hasty to judge this beast.  According to the 
 Elecraft price sheet, a comparable K3 setup will cost almost $6800 and 
 that does not give you a power supply or 200W, which is included with 
 the Kenwood.

 Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] Radio Displays

[dmoes]

I agree that there where many displays that go black with my polarized 
lenses but it seems less in recent years as I think manufacturers are 
realising that this is a problemI haven't tried it with my K3 yet 
but I don't wear sun glasses in the shack but I may need them field 
day. for those that drive in sunny places polarized sunglasses are 
far better than any tinted glasses for glare so suggesting to toss 
them is a not for me.



David Moes
VE3DVY



 --- Original message ---
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Radio Displays
 From: kevinr kev...@coho.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, 09/05/2012  3:31 PM

 What happens if you take off your polarized sunglasses and turn them 
 90
 degrees with respect to the display?
  Kevin.  KD5ONS


 On 5/9/2012 10:54 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:

 I think a more practical solution is to ditch the polarized glasses.  
 Since the LCDs work by polarizing light, the designers are stuck.  I 
 found that I either had to ditch the polarized lenses when flying or 
 do without my GPS and other LCD readouts.

 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
 K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
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Re: [Elecraft] question for psk users

[dmoes]

You are assuming that everyone has the luxury of narrow roofing 
filters and can filter out the week and reject unwanted strong 
signals.  most PSK stations are not blessed with a K3 and are not able 
to suppress strong signals. before I had a K3 2.4 was the narrowes I 
could do.  most afordable rigs today still stop at 3khz (FT950) and 
some even wider.  You should use as little power as possible to 
conduct your QSO.   where I come from that is the law.   using high 
power to conduct a  PSK31 qso is rarely necessary.  most other PSK 
users are running less than 30 W and if you can hear them you probably 
don't need 100+ watts to  talk back.I agree that it is needed in 
some cases but one should only shout when you need to and talk normal 
or even whisper if you can.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Wednesday 02/05/2012 at 4:07 am, Ian White GM3SEK  wrote:

 The reason why a strong signal will annihilate all the other PSK
 signals is that most users are trying to receive an entire 2.5kHz
 bandwidth in one gulp. This means that even one strong signal within
 that bandwidth will activate the AGC and drive all the other signals
 down.

 Regrettably most PSK users don't understand what is happening, so they
 have to rationalize it into simpler terms like It's a crime to be
 loud.
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