Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Brian D]

I get many fairly narrow sprogs from my 50" Asus 4k monitor, mainly 20m and
above. The antennas are quite close to the shack, the sprogs seem to be
radiated from the front of the screen.


Bert  wrote:

> Agree - I use several ASUS monitors and they are all quiet!
> 
> Bert VE3NR
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/7/2019 5:59 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
> >   
> >   
> > One word   ASUS.
> >   
> >
> >   
> > Asus has a huge line of monitors...many with external power supplies
> > giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >>   
> > > On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Toxwrote:
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While.
In the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to
hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for
quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse
to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough
left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points for quiet 4k
HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott AD6YT -- Scott
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Chris R. NW6V]

Hi Scott.

You wrote  "What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k
displays in
the 27-40" range?"

I'm using an LG 27UD69P that I picked up as open stock at Best-Buy last
year and am quite satisfied. It's beautiful.

It does have an external PS, and is very happy to run off the same supply
as the rest of the rig, as is the Intel NUC PC it's connected to (Tim Duffy
of DXE uses these at every position of the K3LR super-station). This was an
important consideration because I wanted to be able to run the whole rig,
computer and all, off a big ol' 100AH LiPO battery, both for emergency use,
and when I wanted to kill all the noise possible when chasing DX down into
said noise.

I made the change to this configuration last year, before I retired as an
IT director, so at the time I had access to a number of DC-driven monitors.
This LG was the quietest of the four I tested. One Dell (not 4K) was a
hell-hole of RFI... :-)

Although this monitor was the "quietest" of the bunch, it was not
completely quiet. But. as Jim K9YC noted, I put ferrites on both the HDMI
and power lines to eliminate "noticeable" RFI.

I say noticeable because I "monitored the monitors" with a panadapter
running on a laptop hooked to the station antennas. Once the ferrites were
installed on this LG, what remained was but the faintest trace on 12M, *at
the antenna, *and that was good enough for me.

As another mentioned, the "noticeable" aspect of the RFI is important. If I
hold my RFI sniffer (a Kenwood TH-F6 HT) within about a foot of the
monitor, oriented at one specific angle, it is still putting out RFI. But
since I can't see the RFI at the antenna, that RFI is not impacting my
operations: The inverse-square law is reducing the intensity below
"noticeable" levels by the time it gets to the antennas, which is all that
matters.

And that of course is in the context of my background noise levels, which
at this city QTH are high (even after extensive mitigation work). So
background noise could render this internally generated noise undetectable.
But my existing system is sensitive enough to notice the differences among
several switching and analog supplies, so I'm satisfied that I'm not overly
QRMing myself.

So: I suggest testing whatever monitor you select, and buy enough snap-on
ferrites and extra-long cables (for enough turns) to filter any remaining
RFI.

Also, If you can get the monitor at a best-buy or some other place that
allows returns without restocking fees, you should be able to find one that
fits all your criteria.

Please let us all know what you find that works!

73 Chris NW6V
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[Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Paul Kiciak]

I've enjoyed this LG 43UD79-B 43" 4k monitor, in use for two years now at 
3840x2160:



It has four HDMI inputs, a displayport, and a USB-C and a remote control which 
is very handy.

Been using it with OpenHPSDR and will add the K4 when I get it.

73,
Paul N2PK

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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[W2xj]

samsung has a good 32 inch 4K monitor with PIP but I don’t know about the RFI 
aspect. 

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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:
> 
> It would be nice if you want to stream video while in the shack; I'm 
> considering one also (but HDTV is much cheaper).  But one feature I would 
> need is decent PIP (picture in picture) to watch two things at once 
> (computer/radio and video source).
> 
> Two major things to consider are look angle and proximity.  If you have to 
> look up more than a few degrees, your neck will whine, straight ahead is 
> ideal.  If it's too large and close, it will be more difficult to take it all 
> in or you move your head...  consider your ergonomics carefully, body parts 
> resist movement, more each and every year.  It WILL matter, in time (or now).
> 
> 73,
> Rick NK7i
> 
> 
>> On 11/7/2019 2:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money 
>> burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or 
>> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for 
>> this display lives :-)
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>>> 
>>> Bert  VE3NR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
 Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
 
 https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 
 
 
 Paul
 W6PNG
 
> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it.
> 
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> 
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).
> 
> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switche

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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[James Atkinson]

I have a newer Dell 1440p monitor that shuts off every time I transmit. It has 
an external PS. However, my antenna is in the attic and radio on the second 
floor ungrounded (rental home). Ferrite hasn’t helped so far.


https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/computer-monitor-turns-off-on-transmit.674842/

James
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James

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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:34:08 PM
To: Jim Miller 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

NEVER buying another monitor with an internal power supply if at all
humanly possible...
There's more to it than where your antennas are... :-)

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On 07-Nov-19 18:03, Jim Miller wrote:
> My antennas are 100ft from the shack. I don't pick up any noise from it.
>
> Jim ab3cv
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Clay Autery  <mailto:k...@montac.com>> wrote:
>
> Dude! That's awesome  One of those would fit between the uprights
> on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare...  Most efficient use of
> space possible in my setup... dual inputsKVM...
>
> IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(
>
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>
> On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:
> > Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
> >
> >
> 
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
> >
> > My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
> >
> > jim ab3cv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman
> mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have
> money
> >> burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video
> editing or
> >> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where
> the market for
> >> this display lives :-)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  <mailto:ve...@bell.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >>>
> >>> Bert  VE3NR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
> >>>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost
> more than the
> >> K4.
> >>>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>> W6PNG
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  <mailto:scott.sm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> >>>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack,
> and am
> >>>>> slowly terraforming it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the
> wall
> >>>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
> Viewing angle
> >>>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
> will be
> >>>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> >>>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k
> displays in
> >>>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like
> one of the
> >>>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> >>>>> consider things like OLED).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis
> to the
> >> party.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>> AD6YT
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Scott Small
> >>>>> __
> >>>

Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Clay Autery]

NEVER buying another monitor with an internal power supply if at all 
humanly possible...

There's more to it than where your antennas are... :-)

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On 07-Nov-19 18:03, Jim Miller wrote:

My antennas are 100ft from the shack. I don't pick up any noise from it.

Jim ab3cv

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Clay Autery > wrote:


Dude! That's awesome  One of those would fit between the uprights
on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare...  Most efficient use of
space possible in my setup... dual inputsKVM...

IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(

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On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:
> Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
>
>

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
>
> My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
>
> jim ab3cv
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman
mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have
money
>> burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video
editing or
>> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where
the market for
>> this display lives :-)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert mailto:ve...@bell.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
>>>
>>> Bert  VE3NR
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
 Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost
more than the
>> K4.
 https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
 Paul
 W6PNG

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox mailto:scott.sm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack,
and am
> slowly terraforming it.
>
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the
wall
> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
Viewing angle
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
will be
> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k
displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like
one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).
>
> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis
to the
>> party.
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
> --
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Jim Miller]

My antennas are 100ft from the shack. I don't pick up any noise from it.

Jim ab3cv

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Clay Autery  wrote:

> Dude!  That's awesome  One of those would fit between the uprights
> on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare...  Most efficient use of
> space possible in my setup... dual inputsKVM...
>
> IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(
>
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> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:
> > Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919
> >
> >
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories
> >
> > My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!
> >
> > jim ab3cv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman 
> wrote:
> >
> >> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
> >> burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or
> >> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market
> for
> >> this display lives :-)
> >>
> >> Grant NQ5T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >>>
> >>> Bert  VE3NR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>  Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than
> the
> >> K4.
>  https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>  Paul
>  W6PNG
> 
> > On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> > meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> > slowly terraforming it.
> >
> > I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> > above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing
> angle
> > will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> > right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> > waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >
> > What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays
> in
> > the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> > midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> > consider things like OLED).
> >
> > Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the
> >> party.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
> > AD6YT
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Clay Autery]

Dude!  That's awesome  One of those would fit between the uprights 
on my shack desk/hutch with 0.2" to spare...  Most efficient use of 
space possible in my setup... dual inputsKVM...


IF ONLY it had an external power supply... :-(

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On 07-Nov-19 16:48, Jim Miller wrote:

Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories

My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!

jim ab3cv


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman  wrote:


For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or
graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for
this display lives :-)

Grant NQ5T




On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:

There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))

Bert  VE3NR


On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:

Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the

K4.

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>

Paul
W6PNG


On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Rick Bates, NK7I]

It would be nice if you want to stream video while in the shack; I'm 
considering one also (but HDTV is much cheaper).  But one feature I 
would need is decent PIP (picture in picture) to watch two things at 
once (computer/radio and video source).


Two major things to consider are look angle and proximity.  If you have 
to look up more than a few degrees, your neck will whine, straight ahead 
is ideal.  If it's too large and close, it will be more difficult to 
take it all in or you move your head...  consider your ergonomics 
carefully, body parts resist movement, more each and every year.  It 
WILL matter, in time (or now).


73,
Rick NK7i


On 11/7/2019 2:38 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning 
holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a 
pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display 
lives :-)

Grant NQ5T




On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:

There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))

Bert  VE3NR


On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:

Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 

Paul
W6PNG


On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.

Thanks,

Scott
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Richard Eversole]

You may want to try cheap 4k tv... Some under $200... Several under $280...
Some use dc connector. I was going to try a couple and see... If they are
ng then return... For nongamers these should be fine... Under $200 means no
roku or other bells and whistles Seen nonham reviews that indicate
picture ok...

Tv's seem to be rca and Chinese off labels
For monitors LG and Samsung seem ok

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, 15:01 Clay Autery  wrote:

>
>
> One word   ASUS.
>
>
>
> Asus has a huge line of monitors...many with external power supplies
> giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Toxwrote:
> >
> >
> >  Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In
> the meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to
> hang on the wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it.
> Viewing angle will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it
> will be right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for
> quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not
> averse to buying something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not
> have enough left in the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points
> for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott
> AD6YT -- Scott Small
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Bert]

Agree - I use several ASUS monitors and they are all quiet!

Bert VE3NR



On 11/7/2019 5:59 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
  
  
One word   ASUS.
  

  
Asus has a huge line of monitors...many with external power supplies giving you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Clay Autery]

 
 
One word   ASUS.
 

 
Asus has a huge line of monitors...many with external power supplies giving 
you the option to put them on a linear DC supply...
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
>  
> On Nov 7, 2019 at 14:47, Toxwrote:
>  
>  
>  Hello all, I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the 
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am slowly 
> terraforming it. I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the 
> wall above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle 
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be right 
> next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be waterfall/UI and 
> pskreporter type apps. What can people suggest for quasi-affordable 
> *RF-quiet* 4k displays in the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying 
> something like one of the midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in 
> the wallet to consider things like OLED). Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI 
> switchers so I can bring Pis to the party. Thanks, Scott AD6YT -- Scott Small 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Jim Miller]

Or this one which is really nice. Dell U4919

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-49-curved-monitor-u4919dw/apd/210-arnw/monitors-monitor-accessories

My early xmas/birthday gift to myself!!

jim ab3cv


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:40 PM Grant Youngman  wrote:

> For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money
> burning holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or
> graphics as a pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for
> this display lives :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:
> >
> > There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> >
> > Bert  VE3NR
> >
> >
> > On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
> >> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the
> K4.
> >>
> >> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ <
> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> W6PNG
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> >>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> >>> slowly terraforming it.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> >>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> >>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> >>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> >>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> >>>
> >>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> >>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> >>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> >>> consider things like OLED).
> >>>
> >>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the
> party.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>> AD6YT
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Jim Brown]

On 11/7/2019 12:47 PM, Tox wrote:

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays


In my earlier post, I forgot to mention that some displays are noisy and 
some are quiet. Years ago, someone gave me a Samsung with touch on-off 
control that was both very noisy and also turned flips when it sees a 
lot of RF. Which is why he gave it to me. :)


Most noise from displays is radiated by the video cable and the power 
cable, and that component of noise can be suppressed by winding turns 
through a #31 Fair-Rite core.


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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Raymond Sills via Elecraft]

As I replied to Paul:
I'm not going to run out and buy one of those but in it's defense... it IS 
designed for high level video use, as in network edit rooms, or graphics design 
rooms.  It has many display refresh rates, so it can marry into various TV uses 
in many countries.  It's meant to be a professional product.  There are studios 
that spent that much on just a microphone, let alone a broadcast TV camera and 
its lens, which costs more than a car.
I solve the whole issue by simply not having a shack.  All my operating is a la 
portable.  So, I don't need any monitors.  
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211

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To: Bert 
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Sent: Thu, Nov 7, 2019 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning 
holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a 
pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display 
lives :-)

Grant NQ5T



> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:
> 
> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> 
> Bert  VE3NR
> 
> 
> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 
>> <https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/>
>> 
>> Paul
>> W6PNG
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>> 
>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>> consider things like OLED).
>>> 
>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> AD6YT
>>> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Grant Youngman]

For ham use in the shack it would be pointless (unless you have money burning 
holes in your pocket).  If you do photography/video editing or graphics as a 
pro — that’s another thing entirely, and where the market for this display 
lives :-)

Grant NQ5T



> On Nov 7, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Bert  wrote:
> 
> There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))
> 
> Bert  VE3NR
> 
> 
> On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:
>> Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Paul
>> W6PNG
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
>>> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
>>> slowly terraforming it.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
>>> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
>>> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
>>> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
>>> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
>>> 
>>> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
>>> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
>>> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
>>> consider things like OLED).
>>> 
>>> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> AD6YT
>>> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Bert]

There are always people happy to part with their money! ;-))

Bert  VE3NR


On 11/7/2019 4:59 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote:

Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 

Paul
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On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.

Thanks,

Scott
AD6YT
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Paul Gacek via Elecraft]

Only Apple could come up with a desktop display that cost more than the K4.

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/ 

Paul
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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Tox  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
> meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
> slowly terraforming it.
> 
> I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
> above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
> will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
> right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
> waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.
> 
> What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
> the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
> midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
> consider things like OLED).
> 
> Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott
> AD6YT
> -- 
> Scott Small
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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Richard Thorne]

Scott,

I've been looking at the following monitor 
https://www.newegg.com/lg-43ud79-b-43-uhd/p/N82E16824025629  The price 
recently dropped as it used to be in the $600+ range.


Watch the video on the LG site.  You can have multiple inputs. For 
example your main computer and maybe the output of the K4. It will be 
nice if and when DXLabs or N1MM can integrate dx spots onto the 
display.  Imagine having the K4 plugged into a large monitor and a mouse 
plugged into the K4.  When a spot you need or want shows up on the 
pan-adapter use the K4 mouse, click on the spot and bam, the rig is on 
frequency.


I'm currently running a Dell 34" curved monitor which has lots of real 
estate.  I'm thinking real hard about the LG 43" monitor because of the 
dual inputs.


Rich - N5ZC

On 11/7/2019 2:47 PM, Tox wrote:

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.

Thanks,

Scott
AD6YT

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Re: [Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Jim Brown]

On 11/7/2019 12:47 PM, Tox wrote:

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable*RF-quiet*  4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).


Why 4K? I own a half dozen 23-in 1920x1080 Samsung displays that 
nominally use 14VDC, but run just fine on 12-13VDC. The major source of 
noise for most displays is the switch-mode power supply (wall wart) that 
provides that DC voltage. I cut the cable for the noisy power supply, 
splice it to an old linear supply. I've gone a step further -- I run the 
monitors in my shack from a big 12V battery that runs other ham gear, 
and float-charge that battery with a suitable charge regulator.


Since I bought these (about $200 each), the trend has been to higher DC 
voltage. Also, larger and higher res displays tend to use higher voltage.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] 4k monitors for the shack, late 2019

[Tox]

Hello all,

I'm going to continue to eagerly await a K4 for A While. In the
meantime, I've been reconfiguring a room to become my shack, and am
slowly terraforming it.

I'd like to pick up a couple of HDMI displays to hang on the wall
above/behind the rig and the computer I interface to it. Viewing angle
will be shaded, pretty much on-axis due to location, and it will be
right next to the entry of my feedline. Expected usage would be
waterfall/UI and pskreporter type apps.

What can people suggest for quasi-affordable *RF-quiet* 4k displays in
the 27-40" range? (I'm not averse to buying something like one of the
midtier Samsungs, but do not have enough left in the wallet to
consider things like OLED).

Bonus points for quiet 4k HDMI switchers so I can bring Pis to the party.

Thanks,

Scott
AD6YT
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