Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Stephen Prior]

I can't speak highly enough of Rumlog.  It has a very straightforward user
interface, fantastic LOTW and Clublog integration and all the database
searching tools are there if you need them.  Yes, it's free, but it's so
good that I made a donation too.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 11 May 2016 at 22:27, Bill Frantz  wrote:

> To add to Don's list for Mac users, RUMlogNG, by DL2RUM is a logging
> program. The main logger is oriented toward DXers, but there is a contest
> logging sub-program. It has integration with flgidi, and can bring the K3
> internal PSK/RTTY decode/encode to the computer screen. It is available
> free from the app store, although there is a "donate" button which I
> suggest using if you like the program.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 5/10/16 at 5:43 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
>
> Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications.  It is
>> multi-platform and works well.  It does not have all the 'pizazz" of other
>> applications, but it works quite well and is free to use.
>>
>> Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the
>> instructions.
>>
>> Another application that will give you several other rig control
>> functions is Win4K3.  It does cost money for extended use, but you can try
>> it for 30 days.
>>
>> Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I believe
>> the free downlaod of version 5 is still available.
>>
>> There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and DX
>> commander as well as other applications can do a variety of things for
>> you.  The DXLabs suite is freeware.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Bill Frantz]

To add to Don's list for Mac users, RUMlogNG, by DL2RUM is a 
logging program. The main logger is oriented toward DXers, but 
there is a contest logging sub-program. It has integration with 
flgidi, and can bring the K3 internal PSK/RTTY decode/encode to 
the computer screen. It is available free from the app store, 
although there is a "donate" button which I suggest using if you 
like the program.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/10/16 at 5:43 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications.  
It is multi-platform and works well.  It does not have all the 
'pizazz" of other applications, but it works quite well and is 
free to use.


Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the instructions.

Another application that will give you several other rig 
control functions is Win4K3.  It does cost money for extended 
use, but you can try it for 30 days.


Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I 
believe the free downlaod of version 5 is still available.


There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and 
DX commander as well as other applications can do a variety of 
things for you.  The DXLabs suite is freeware.

---
Bill Frantz| Ham radio contesting is a| Periwinkle
(408)356-8506  | contact sport.   | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |  - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Don Wilhelm]

Hi all,

Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications.  It is 
multi-platform and works well.  It does not have all the 'pizazz" of 
other applications, but it works quite well and is free to use.


Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the instructions.

Another application that will give you several other rig control 
functions is Win4K3.  It does cost money for extended use, but you can 
try it for 30 days.


Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I believe 
the free downlaod of version 5 is still available.


There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and DX 
commander as well as other applications can do a variety of things for 
you.  The DXLabs suite is freeware.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/10/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:23 PM, W B McCarty  wrote:


... I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the
hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC
programs I've used

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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Tony Estep]

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:23 PM, W B McCarty  wrote:

> ... I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the
> hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC
> programs I've used

=
A few years ago I bought and tried a Bonito program. At that time the
decoding of nearly every mode was so error-filled as to be useless. I spent
some time comparing it to other digital programs available at the time,
especially that vintage of MixW. Finally I gave up.

Hopefully, things have changed. Commercial-quality software is not as easy
to develop as many enterpreneurially-minded programmers think it is. Bonito
needed to have a lot of turnover in its senior development team. And to be
fair, perhaps it has. Some of the other ham software providers have
upgraded their capabilities with new and more skilled developers, and maybe
the same is true of Bonito. But they left a bad impression with me.

Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Don Wilhelm]

Elecraft does sell a DB-9 to 3.5mm cable to work between a serial port 
and the KX3.
it is the  KXSERa (3.5mm to DB9-F): Extra Cable 3.5mm to RS232 DB9-F for 
KX3.

The DB9 connector is female, but if necessary you can add a gender changer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/10/2016 5:23 PM, W B McCarty wrote:

There remains the possibility of making a serial connection between the KX3
and the Bonito dongle, which might do the trick. Doing so would require a
custom cable with a DB-9 on one side and connections to the KX3's ACC1,
ACC2, and phone out jacks on the other. Details are given in the entry
pertaining to the K3 in the table at
http://www.bonito.net/service/make_radio_list.php3?language=en=LB#HAM
.




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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[W B McCarty]

Thanks for all the information!

To my surprise, Bonito answered with lightning speed. Per Bonito, the
specific Kenwood model to use with the K3 is the TS2000. I had tried the
TS570 and TS870 without success before posting here. (But I was actually
using a KX3, not a K3, as explained below; presumably a K3 would have
worked, as stated to me by Bonito.)

As I wrote the KX3 is not listed as officially supported. My hope was that
the KX3 might be similar enough to the K3 that if the K3 worked the KX3
would also work. My thinking was that since the Kenwood driver works with
the K3 then the driver can't be all that particular. However, specifying
TS2000 as the radio did not work in the context of a USB connection between
the KX3 and PC and nothing other than the PC attached to the Bonito dongle,
which is a recommended configuration.

There remains the possibility of making a serial connection between the KX3
and the Bonito dongle, which might do the trick. Doing so would require a
custom cable with a DB-9 on one side and connections to the KX3's ACC1,
ACC2, and phone out jacks on the other. Details are given in the entry
pertaining to the K3 in the table at
http://www.bonito.net/service/make_radio_list.php3?language=en=LB#HAM
<http://www.bonito.net/service/make_radio_list.php3?language=en=LB#HAM.>.

I did specifically request that Bonito support the KX3. Bonito has not
responded to my request; I don't anticipate that they will do so.

Before closing I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the
hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC
programs I've used. I put up with it because it needs to be configured from
scratch only once and because when it does work I find it useful and
convenient. I wouldn't want anyone to purchase the program based on my
mention without first reading some of the many reviews available, including
those on eHam.net <http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/4610>, where at the
time of this writing the program had received an overall score of 1.4/5
[sic].

Cheers,

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Wes <wes_n...@triconet.org> wrote:

> Actually, Elecraft uses the Kenwood protocol.  When I got my first K3 I
> told my logging program it was my 12-year-old TS-870.
>
> On 5/10/2016 10:11 AM, tomb18 wrote:
>
>> HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands
>> such as frequency,  band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios
>> for the K3 and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if
>> you do this and the software doesn't try to identify the
>> radio.Tomva2fsq.com
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message
>> From: Robert Nobis <n7...@nobis.net> Date: 2016-05-10  9:59 AM
>> (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 <tom...@videotron.ca> Cc: wbmcca...@gmail.com,
>> Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6
>> According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there
>> is no indication that the KX3 is supported.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>
>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>> n7...@nobis.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Wes]

Actually, Elecraft uses the Kenwood protocol.  When I got my first K3 I told my 
logging program it was my 12-year-old TS-870.


On 5/10/2016 10:11 AM, tomb18 wrote:

HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands such 
as frequency,  band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios for the K3 
and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if you do this and 
the software doesn't try to identify the radio.Tomva2fsq.com


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Robert Nobis 
<n7...@nobis.net> Date: 2016-05-10  9:59 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 
<tom...@videotron.ca> Cc: wbmcca...@gmail.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6
According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no 
indication that the KX3 is supported.

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[tomb18]

HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands such 
as frequency,  band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios for the K3 
and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if you do this and 
the software doesn't try to identify the radio.Tomva2fsq.com 


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Robert Nobis <n7...@nobis.net> Date: 2016-05-10  9:59 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
tomb18 <tom...@videotron.ca> Cc: wbmcca...@gmail.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 
According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no 
indication that the KX3 is supported.

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
n7...@nobis.net


> On May 10, 2016, at 06:36, tomb18 <tom...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> 
> Try Kenwood as a radio  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original 
> message - From: W B McCarty <wbmcca...@gmail.com> Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM 
> (GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be 
> supported by RadioCom 6 in several places
> on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the
> selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program.
> 
> Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6?
> 
> I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's*
> not* listed
> as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If
> anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very
> much like to know that.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
> Bill McCarty
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[Robert Nobis]

According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no 
indication that the KX3 is supported.

73,


Bob Nobis - N7RJN
n7...@nobis.net


> On May 10, 2016, at 06:36, tomb18  wrote:
> 
> Try Kenwood as a radio  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original 
> message - From: W B McCarty  Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM 
> (GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be 
> supported by RadioCom 6 in several places
> on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the
> selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program.
> 
> Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6?
> 
> I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's*
> not* listed
> as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If
> anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very
> much like to know that.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
> Bill McCarty
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[tomb18]

Try Kenwood as a radio  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original 
message - From: W B McCarty  Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM 
(GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be 
supported by RadioCom 6 in several places
on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the
selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program.

Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6?

I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's*
not* listed
as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If
anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very
much like to know that.

Thanks!

Cheers,

-- 
Bill McCarty

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[Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6

[W B McCarty]

The Elecraft K3 is reported to be supported by RadioCom 6 in several places
on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the
selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program.

Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6?

I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's*
not* listed
as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If
anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very
much like to know that.

Thanks!

Cheers,

-- 
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