Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Everyone is quite right about the adjustable power supply suggestion. I was
fixated on the power supply issue without considering the nature of the
load. 

I like Walt's suggestion of simply switching in more LEDs as needed. A
rotary switch adding more LEDs with each position would make adjusting the
light level easy with a simple turn of the knob. 

It may be "brute force" as Walt says, but sometimes the simplest is also the
most elegant and efficient solution. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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Underwood
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 8:08 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
recommendation needed

A brute force solution would be to get four LED lighting strips that run off
12V and use four switches. Turn on as much light as you want.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread Walter Underwood
A brute force solution would be to get four LED lighting strips that run off 
12V and
use four switches. Turn on as much light as you want.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 7, 2017, at 6:32 AM, Chip Stratton  wrote:
> 
> What John says is true. Over time the forward voltage drop of an LED will
> decrease somewhat as it ages. It isn't great, and it isn't fast, though it
> happens more quickly initially.
> 
> The forward voltage drop decreases more dramatically in the short term with
> temperature - the higher the die temperature, the lower the forward voltage
> drop. This can result in thermal runaway and destruction of the LED when
> using a constant voltage supply and not a constant current supply. This can
> be mitigated with a current limiting resistor in series, but it does
> decrease overall efficiency of the system.
> 
> Chip
> AE5KA
> 
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:45 AM, John Pitz  wrote:
> 
>> Actually there is a much simpler way to do this using linear 3 pin
>> regulators.  Take a fictional regulator that has a fixed output voltage
>> of 1V.  Assuming you want 15mA through your LEDs, make sure the output
>> current of the voltage regulator is 15mA by placing a 67 Ohm resistor
>> from the output pin to ground.  The current out the VOUT of a 3 pin
>> regulator will be equal to the current at the VIN of the regulator.
>> Then put your string of LEDs from the "unregulated" voltage in and the
>> Vin pin of your regulator.  You will have to add up the expected voltage
>> drops of the LEDs. and subtract that value from the unregulated Voltage
>> supply.  then subtract the voltage regulators output voltage, in this
>> case 1V from whats left.  Now, make sure that the remaining voltage is
>> at least a little bit higher than the dropout voltage of the regulator.
>> I have done this countless times.  It should be pretty simple to use a
>> POT and a resistor to dim the LEDs within a preset range, or if your
>> regulator has a shutdown pin you could PWM it from your favorite
>> microcontroller.
>> 
>> You should avoid putting LEDs in series when using a simple dropping
>> resistor.  That scheme will seem to work well for a little while then
>> you may find your LEDs failing.  In my experience this doesn't work long
>> term and in this scheme the LEDs fail one by one shorted.  I don't think
>> the voltage drop on each LED is all that constant over time and
>> temperature.
>> 
>> 73
>> KD8CIV
>> 
>> On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 02:14 -0800, Dave Fifield wrote:
>> 
>>> An LED is basically a fancy diode, so a linear voltage regulator to
>> control
>>> its brightness will not work well.
>>> 
>>> Starting from around 2V output (say) the LED/s will be OFF. As you
>> increase
>>> the regulator's output voltage, somewhere around 2.5V (depends on the
>> exact
>>> type of LED you're using), the LED will begin to conduct forward current
>> and
>>> start to emit light. At this point, increasing the regulator's output
>>> voltage just a tiny bit will increase the brightness of the LED a lot
>> (it's
>>> basically an exponential curve). So at just a couple hundred mV above the
>>> voltage where the LED began to emit light, you will reach full
>> brightness.
>>> Any further increase in the drive voltage will merely result in the
>> series
>>> current-limiting resistor dissipating more heat.
>>> 
>>> What is really needed here is a linearly-variable constant-current
>> generator
>>> circuit. This is a fairly simple circuit to design, usually consisting
>> of a
>>> voltage reference, a comparator, and a drive transistor, with some
>> feedback
>>> from a current sensing resistor. It will need to be designed so that it
>> can
>>> generate enough voltage to overcome the LED's forward voltage (Vf), and
>> with
>>> an output current that's variable from 0mA to around 20mA (or whatever
>> the
>>> LED's maximum forward current (If max) is specified at).
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Cheers es 73,
>>> Dave
>>> AD6A
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>> Ron
>>> D'Eau Claire
>>> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:17 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
>>> recom

Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread Chip Stratton
What John says is true. Over time the forward voltage drop of an LED will
decrease somewhat as it ages. It isn't great, and it isn't fast, though it
happens more quickly initially.

The forward voltage drop decreases more dramatically in the short term with
temperature - the higher the die temperature, the lower the forward voltage
drop. This can result in thermal runaway and destruction of the LED when
using a constant voltage supply and not a constant current supply. This can
be mitigated with a current limiting resistor in series, but it does
decrease overall efficiency of the system.

Chip
AE5KA

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 8:45 AM, John Pitz  wrote:

> Actually there is a much simpler way to do this using linear 3 pin
> regulators.  Take a fictional regulator that has a fixed output voltage
> of 1V.  Assuming you want 15mA through your LEDs, make sure the output
> current of the voltage regulator is 15mA by placing a 67 Ohm resistor
> from the output pin to ground.  The current out the VOUT of a 3 pin
> regulator will be equal to the current at the VIN of the regulator.
> Then put your string of LEDs from the "unregulated" voltage in and the
> Vin pin of your regulator.  You will have to add up the expected voltage
> drops of the LEDs. and subtract that value from the unregulated Voltage
> supply.  then subtract the voltage regulators output voltage, in this
> case 1V from whats left.  Now, make sure that the remaining voltage is
> at least a little bit higher than the dropout voltage of the regulator.
> I have done this countless times.  It should be pretty simple to use a
> POT and a resistor to dim the LEDs within a preset range, or if your
> regulator has a shutdown pin you could PWM it from your favorite
> microcontroller.
>
> You should avoid putting LEDs in series when using a simple dropping
> resistor.  That scheme will seem to work well for a little while then
> you may find your LEDs failing.  In my experience this doesn't work long
> term and in this scheme the LEDs fail one by one shorted.  I don't think
> the voltage drop on each LED is all that constant over time and
> temperature.
>
> 73
> KD8CIV
>
> On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 02:14 -0800, Dave Fifield wrote:
>
> > An LED is basically a fancy diode, so a linear voltage regulator to
> control
> > its brightness will not work well.
> >
> > Starting from around 2V output (say) the LED/s will be OFF. As you
> increase
> > the regulator's output voltage, somewhere around 2.5V (depends on the
> exact
> > type of LED you're using), the LED will begin to conduct forward current
> and
> > start to emit light. At this point, increasing the regulator's output
> > voltage just a tiny bit will increase the brightness of the LED a lot
> (it's
> > basically an exponential curve). So at just a couple hundred mV above the
> > voltage where the LED began to emit light, you will reach full
> brightness.
> > Any further increase in the drive voltage will merely result in the
> series
> > current-limiting resistor dissipating more heat.
> >
> > What is really needed here is a linearly-variable constant-current
> generator
> > circuit. This is a fairly simple circuit to design, usually consisting
> of a
> > voltage reference, a comparator, and a drive transistor, with some
> feedback
> > from a current sensing resistor. It will need to be designed so that it
> can
> > generate enough voltage to overcome the LED's forward voltage (Vf), and
> with
> > an output current that's variable from 0mA to around 20mA (or whatever
> the
> > LED's maximum forward current (If max) is specified at).
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers es 73,
> > Dave
> > AD6A
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Ron
> > D'Eau Claire
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:17 PM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
> > recommendation needed
> >
> > A linear voltage regulator is very quiet. That's just a bipolar
> transistor
> > passing the current with adjustable base voltage. I use them on my HB
> power
> > supplies for the same reason. No square switching, no RFI.
> >
> > 73, Ron AC7AC
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Bill
> > Frantz
> > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 6:07 PM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
> > re

Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread John Pitz
Actually there is a much simpler way to do this using linear 3 pin
regulators.  Take a fictional regulator that has a fixed output voltage
of 1V.  Assuming you want 15mA through your LEDs, make sure the output
current of the voltage regulator is 15mA by placing a 67 Ohm resistor
from the output pin to ground.  The current out the VOUT of a 3 pin
regulator will be equal to the current at the VIN of the regulator.
Then put your string of LEDs from the "unregulated" voltage in and the
Vin pin of your regulator.  You will have to add up the expected voltage
drops of the LEDs. and subtract that value from the unregulated Voltage
supply.  then subtract the voltage regulators output voltage, in this
case 1V from whats left.  Now, make sure that the remaining voltage is
at least a little bit higher than the dropout voltage of the regulator.
I have done this countless times.  It should be pretty simple to use a
POT and a resistor to dim the LEDs within a preset range, or if your
regulator has a shutdown pin you could PWM it from your favorite
microcontroller.

You should avoid putting LEDs in series when using a simple dropping
resistor.  That scheme will seem to work well for a little while then
you may find your LEDs failing.  In my experience this doesn't work long
term and in this scheme the LEDs fail one by one shorted.  I don't think
the voltage drop on each LED is all that constant over time and
temperature.

73
KD8CIV

On Sat, 2017-01-07 at 02:14 -0800, Dave Fifield wrote:

> An LED is basically a fancy diode, so a linear voltage regulator to control
> its brightness will not work well.
> 
> Starting from around 2V output (say) the LED/s will be OFF. As you increase
> the regulator's output voltage, somewhere around 2.5V (depends on the exact
> type of LED you're using), the LED will begin to conduct forward current and
> start to emit light. At this point, increasing the regulator's output
> voltage just a tiny bit will increase the brightness of the LED a lot (it's
> basically an exponential curve). So at just a couple hundred mV above the
> voltage where the LED began to emit light, you will reach full brightness.
> Any further increase in the drive voltage will merely result in the series
> current-limiting resistor dissipating more heat.
> 
> What is really needed here is a linearly-variable constant-current generator
> circuit. This is a fairly simple circuit to design, usually consisting of a
> voltage reference, a comparator, and a drive transistor, with some feedback
> from a current sensing resistor. It will need to be designed so that it can
> generate enough voltage to overcome the LED's forward voltage (Vf), and with
> an output current that's variable from 0mA to around 20mA (or whatever the
> LED's maximum forward current (If max) is specified at). 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers es 73,
> Dave
> AD6A
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
> D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:17 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
> recommendation needed
> 
> A linear voltage regulator is very quiet. That's just a bipolar transistor
> passing the current with adjustable base voltage. I use them on my HB power
> supplies for the same reason. No square switching, no RFI. 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Frantz
> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 6:07 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
> recommendation needed
> 
> To avoid color shifts with dimming, most LED dimmers use Pulse Width
> Modulation (PWM). PWM has the potential to generate RFI, so be careful. The
> LEDs themselves should be very quiet. Using LEDs with resistors to limit the
> current should also be quiet. A system that switches LEDs for brightness
> control would be a safe solution, but I don't know of any commercial systems
> which do this.
> 
> On the other hand, I have not noticed a problem with the LED dimmers in my
> house, so perhaps most of the problem is in the wall-wart power supply.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 1/6/17 at 3:50 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Marc Veeneman via Elecraft)
> wrote:
> 
> >I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the underside of an 
> >equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v switcher that I ignored.  I 
> >use my 12 volt supply.  The strip was, I think, 24 inches long and has 
> >a dimmer that can be inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty 
> >bright.  Mine came from Amazon but there are many to c

Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread David Woolley
There will be a switching converter on any quality make of LED lighting. 
 The only way you avoid it is if they use a simple series dropper 
resistor, which is not energy efficient.


LEDs are constant current devices, so there is no such thing as a 12V 
LED (an LED with a 12V forward voltage drop would be well into the far 
ultraviolet, and would still need current regulation).


Professional installations would use a switching constant current supply 
(typically called a driver).  Those for amateurs and the average 
building contractor would mimic tungsten bulbs by having a constant 
current switching regulator in each bulb.


Some cheap mains operated lamps use capacitive droppers followed by 
rectifier and resistive current limiter.  They are the type likely to be 
sold in one dollar stores, or on Ebay.

#
On 06/01/17 11:50, Marc Veeneman wrote:

\


On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:00 AM, Peter D. Vouvounas  wrote:

I presume some of you have been through a selection process to find a usable
dimmable LED desk lamp with articulating arm that does not create RFI back
into your Flex on HF.




I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the underside of an 
equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v switcher that I ignored.  I use my 
12 volt supply.  The strip was, I think, 24 inches long and has a dimmer that 
can be inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty bright.  Mine came from 
Amazon but there are many to choose from these days; you can even select color 
temperature when you order.



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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-07 Thread Dave Fifield
An LED is basically a fancy diode, so a linear voltage regulator to control
its brightness will not work well.

Starting from around 2V output (say) the LED/s will be OFF. As you increase
the regulator's output voltage, somewhere around 2.5V (depends on the exact
type of LED you're using), the LED will begin to conduct forward current and
start to emit light. At this point, increasing the regulator's output
voltage just a tiny bit will increase the brightness of the LED a lot (it's
basically an exponential curve). So at just a couple hundred mV above the
voltage where the LED began to emit light, you will reach full brightness.
Any further increase in the drive voltage will merely result in the series
current-limiting resistor dissipating more heat.

What is really needed here is a linearly-variable constant-current generator
circuit. This is a fairly simple circuit to design, usually consisting of a
voltage reference, a comparator, and a drive transistor, with some feedback
from a current sensing resistor. It will need to be designed so that it can
generate enough voltage to overcome the LED's forward voltage (Vf), and with
an output current that's variable from 0mA to around 20mA (or whatever the
LED's maximum forward current (If max) is specified at). 

Hope this helps.

Cheers es 73,
Dave
AD6A

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron
D'Eau Claire
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:17 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
recommendation needed

A linear voltage regulator is very quiet. That's just a bipolar transistor
passing the current with adjustable base voltage. I use them on my HB power
supplies for the same reason. No square switching, no RFI. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Frantz
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 6:07 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
recommendation needed

To avoid color shifts with dimming, most LED dimmers use Pulse Width
Modulation (PWM). PWM has the potential to generate RFI, so be careful. The
LEDs themselves should be very quiet. Using LEDs with resistors to limit the
current should also be quiet. A system that switches LEDs for brightness
control would be a safe solution, but I don't know of any commercial systems
which do this.

On the other hand, I have not noticed a problem with the LED dimmers in my
house, so perhaps most of the problem is in the wall-wart power supply.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/6/17 at 3:50 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Marc Veeneman via Elecraft)
wrote:

>I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the underside of an 
>equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v switcher that I ignored.  I 
>use my 12 volt supply.  The strip was, I think, 24 inches long and has 
>a dimmer that can be inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty 
>bright.  Mine came from Amazon but there are many to choose from these 
>days; you can even select color temperature when you order.
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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
A linear voltage regulator is very quiet. That's just a bipolar transistor
passing the current with adjustable base voltage. I use them on my HB power
supplies for the same reason. No square switching, no RFI. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Frantz
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 6:07 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position
recommendation needed

To avoid color shifts with dimming, most LED dimmers use Pulse Width
Modulation (PWM). PWM has the potential to generate RFI, so be careful. The
LEDs themselves should be very quiet. Using LEDs with resistors to limit the
current should also be quiet. A system that switches LEDs for brightness
control would be a safe solution, but I don't know of any commercial systems
which do this.

On the other hand, I have not noticed a problem with the LED dimmers in my
house, so perhaps most of the problem is in the wall-wart power supply.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/6/17 at 3:50 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Marc Veeneman via Elecraft)
wrote:

>I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the underside of an 
>equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v switcher that I ignored.  I 
>use my 12 volt supply.  The strip was, I think, 24 inches long and has 
>a dimmer that can be inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty 
>bright.  Mine came from Amazon but there are many to choose from these 
>days; you can even select color temperature when you order.
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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Bill Frantz
To avoid color shifts with dimming, most LED dimmers use Pulse 
Width Modulation (PWM). PWM has the potential to generate RFI, 
so be careful. The LEDs themselves should be very quiet. Using 
LEDs with resistors to limit the current should also be quiet. A 
system that switches LEDs for brightness control would be a safe 
solution, but I don't know of any commercial systems which do this.


On the other hand, I have not noticed a problem with the LED 
dimmers in my house, so perhaps most of the problem is in the 
wall-wart power supply.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/6/17 at 3:50 AM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Marc Veeneman 
via Elecraft) wrote:


I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the 
underside of an equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v 
switcher that I ignored.  I use my 12 volt supply.  The strip 
was, I think, 24 inches long and has a dimmer that can be 
inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty bright.  Mine came 
from Amazon but there are many to choose from these days; you 
can even select color temperature when you order.

---
Bill Frantz| Truth and love must prevail  | Periwinkle
(408)356-8506  | over lies and hate.  | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |   - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Jim Brown

On Fri,1/6/2017 7:24 AM, Craig Smith wrote:

Have a look at this one:


I'm using LED strip lights from Wired Communications. Discovered them 
several years ago -- they sell at hamfests on the west coast. Do NOT use 
their power supplies. But their strips work great on a wide range of DC 
voltages. I run them from the 12V system in my shack. Four of their 
strips light my shack for normal operation, current draw is about 1.2 A.


In general, it's dimmers and power supplies that are noisy, not LEDs. Of 
course there are exceptions.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Craig Smith
Greetings Peter …

Have a look at this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Dimmable-Stoog-Brightness-Rechargeable-Adjustable/dp/B01CSHZ99Y/ref=sr_1_10?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1483715928&sr=1-10&keywords=usb+led+desk+lamp

I’m not claiming this is the highest quality lamp ever made.   I also do not 
currently have a way of assessing the EMI situation with your setup.   However, 
it is an amazingly versatile lamp and well worth the $13 price!   Even if you 
select something else, you may want to have one of these around for other 
purposes.

Some of the things I like about it:

Very small and light and easily moved around for the task at hand.   

Convient recharge from any USB port.

3 selectable light intensities.

Very long time between recharges.   I use mine fairly intermittently, but get 2 
or 3 months usage on a charge.

For $13, it can be considered a throw-away item if you don’t end up liking it.

 73   CraigAC0DS


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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Barry
I've used this one for over a year, and pleased with it.  My wire antennas
are only about 25 ft away and no noise issues:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KSQ8ZNA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-06 Thread Marc Veeneman via Elecraft
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> On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:00 AM, Peter D. Vouvounas  wrote:
> 
> I presume some of you have been through a selection process to find a usable
> dimmable LED desk lamp with articulating arm that does not create RFI back
> into your Flex on HF.
> 
> 

I mounted (dual side adhesive tape) an LED strip to the underside of an 
equipment shelf.  The strip came with a 12v switcher that I ignored.  I use my 
12 volt supply.  The strip was, I think, 24 inches long and has a dimmer that 
can be inserted in the power lead.  No RFI.  Plenty bright.  Mine came from 
Amazon but there are many to choose from these days; you can even select color 
temperature when you order.
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[Elecraft] Dimmable LED desk lamp for operating position recommendation needed

2017-01-05 Thread Peter D. Vouvounas
I presume some of you have been through a selection process to find a usable
dimmable LED desk lamp with articulating arm that does not create RFI back
into your Flex on HF.

My current desk lamp (Halogen with mini bulb dimmable) makes a great deal of
noise in the 80 meter band and I'd like to replace it.  Hard to operate
without a lamp.  My wife calls my home office / shack the cave. Often I need
a dimmed light in the cave hihi.

Thank for any help.  PeterV WB3FSR on the Jersey Shore

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